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[mdude77]

I see canaan is getting organized with an authorized reseller. I am guessing they are buying the pallets and then selling singles.
Go to canaan's home page for the straight news and links.
Not going to put links in here as too many folks put up links that are scams, better you go to canaan's website your self and follow the info there.

Yes.  The reseller is constantly sold out too.

20 days later I still haven't been able to pay for my orders at Canaan.

Quite the deal they have going on here. 

M

[clgrissom3]

Block! by moecarrimNEW
(13.9BTC)

Nice!  This is our 2nd of BLOCK TUESDAY!

[overcon]

Block! by moecarrimNEW
(13.9BTC)

Nice!  This is our 2nd of BLOCK TUESDAY!

We need more blocks and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
Those other pools they will lie
That when a block comes in, you all jump right in
'Cause you notice that block was stuffed
With all those extra fees

Ah well, MORE BLOCKS! :p

[beltsniffer]

Block! by moecarrimNEW
(13.9BTC)

Nice!  This is our 2nd of BLOCK TUESDAY!

We need more blocks and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
Those other pools they will lie
That when a block comes in, you all jump right in
'Cause you notice that block was stuffed
With all those extra fees

Ah well, MORE BLOCKS! :p

I like BIG Blocks!

[ordimans]

And  our diff is dropping  as I type.

the gray line  is way down.  due to pressure from  BCC/BCH

Get used to big swings until BCC/BCH  fades away.

ViaBTC reverse their half hashrate to BCC instead BTC.

So difficulity will be changed soon right ?

[dzimmerm56]

I see canaan is getting organized with an authorized reseller. I am guessing they are buying the pallets and then selling singles.
Go to canaan's home page for the straight news and links.
Not going to put links in here as too many folks put up links that are scams, better you go to canaan's website your self and follow the info there.

Yes.  The reseller is constantly sold out too.

20 days later I still haven't been able to pay for my orders at Canaan.

Quite the deal they have going on here. 

M

When I got my A741 it took about a month. They were very slow in getting back to me about providing a bitcoin payment address.
I even used google translate to send them a message in simplified Chinese to get their attention.
I think it amused them. I got more messages from them after trying that stunt.

[mdude77]

I see canaan is getting organized with an authorized reseller. I am guessing they are buying the pallets and then selling singles.
Go to canaan's home page for the straight news and links.
Not going to put links in here as too many folks put up links that are scams, better you go to canaan's website your self and follow the info there.

Yes.  The reseller is constantly sold out too.

20 days later I still haven't been able to pay for my orders at Canaan.

Quite the deal they have going on here. 

M

When I got my A741 it took about a month. They were very slow in getting back to me about providing a bitcoin payment address.
I even used google translate to send them a message in simplified Chinese to get their attention.
I think it amused them. I got more messages from them after trying that stunt.

That's funny.

What's not funny is the domestic reseller just raised the price on the 741s by $100.  Despite still being out of stock.

M

[beltsniffer]

Looks like luckyant is failing over again and our hashrate is climbing. Hope he finds a block while he is here!

[NomadGroup]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

[mdude77]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

[overcon]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

I threw my Antrouter on that pool. Better than feeding it's master.

[os2sam]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

[DarKSm0ke]

And  our diff is dropping  as I type.

the gray line  is way down.  due to pressure from  BCC/BCH

Get used to big swings until BCC/BCH  fades away.

ViaBTC reverse their half hashrate to BCC instead BTC.

So difficulity will be changed soon right ?

Difficulty is adjusting every 14 days with BTC, so no it will not bee soon. But on BCC there is other technics in place to reduce difficulty quicker if hashrate drops.

[mdude77]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.

M

[os2sam]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.

M

Being penalized in my book is not being paid for shares you submit.  That is not happening.

[kano]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.

M

No it doesn't penalise pool hoppers.

Looking at it at the micro level, a share is rewarded the same way no matter if you hop or not.
When you mine, after you submit a share, has no effect on each share you submit.

The 'ramp up' and 'ramp down' is just the side effect of delaying rewarding shares to reduce variance.
It works exactly the same for long term miners as it does for hoppers.

Since later shares found have no effect on how a single share is rewarded, there is no penalty.

[mdude77]

No it doesn't penalise pool hoppers.

Looking at it at the micro level, a share is rewarded the same way no matter if you hop or not.
When you mine, after you submit a share, has no effect on each share you submit.

The 'ramp up' and 'ramp down' is just the side effect of delaying rewarding shares to reduce variance.
It works exactly the same for long term miners as it does for hoppers.

Since later shares found have no effect on how a single share is rewarded, there is no penalty.

Thanks for the education.  I learned something!

M

[philipma1957]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?   

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.

M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.

M

No it doesn't penalise pool hoppers.

Looking at it at the micro level, a share is rewarded the same way no matter if you hop or not.
When you mine, after you submit a share, has no effect on each share you submit.

The 'ramp up' and 'ramp down' is just the side effect of delaying rewarding shares to reduce variance.
It works exactly the same for long term miners as it does for hoppers.

Since later shares found have no effect on how a single share is rewarded, there is no penalty.

say

I am 123  4  321

123 as I ramp up to my true  4     then  321 once I leave.

it is a good method.

some pools screw you if you leave the pool.  which is not good if you were a big miner on the pool and you system crashes the pool hits a block and f you as it thinks you left the pool.

I won't mine on pools that do that.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?  

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.
M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.
M

For the typical impatient ADHD-like attention span of altcoin miners ya. Takes them too long to see results so they move along before too much damage is done though in all fairness yes it does speed up finding blocks for the rest of us.

Not sure if Profit-switching algos like used in Awesome Miner factor in ramp up/down time. I don't mine alts and since EMC shut down a few years back have no reason to leave here so never even looked at that part of Awesome. Safe bet it can also track 'pool profitability' along with the various coins themselves.

[philipma1957]

Maybe some CK solos will get impatient waiting for a block now and jump in the pool with us?  

The whole point of the PPLNS here is to penalize pool hoppers.
M

You are not penalized for pool hopping with PPLNS.  You will get paid for every share you submit.  The ramp up and the trail off before you start mining and after you stop mining will take time.  But that is different from being penalized.

That's being penalized in my book.
M

For the typical impatient ADHD-like attention span of altcoin miners ya. Takes them too long to see results so they move along before too much damage is done though in all fairness yes it does speed up finding blocks for the rest of us.

Not sure if Profit-switching algos like used in Awesome Miner factor in ramp up/down time. I don't mine alts and since EMC shut down a few years back have no reason to leave here so never even looked at that part of Awesome. Safe bet it can also track 'pool profitability' along with the various coins themselves.

 @ not fuzzy

 is profit switching for btc-bcc  f'ing up  things as i type.  or is it making our wealth grow?




  

@ mdude   do you think ramp and ramp down is punishing you?

or do you just dislike kano?

or is it another reason  for saying ramp up ramp down is a punishment.