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[padrinogtr]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

[judypug1956]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

29.83 x 30 = 895. So you are way too early to call falling skys

[padrinogtr]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

29.83 x 30 = 895. So you are way too early to call falling skys

Please explain that math. For us noobs

[voodooman]

Kano; just a thought, could the problem have been a batch 1 S9?   These were an issue last year.

There are still some S9v1s on the pool but obviously no where near as many as before.
But yes, the S9v1 stats still have a CDF[Erl] over 0.99
In the last 3 months (27-Jul to 26-Oct) they've submitted just over 8 Blocks worth of shares but only found 5 blocks.
Yep they continue to suck, but the luck in general over the last 3 months has been below expected for all miners as you can see in the monthly table.

How do we know if we have an S9v1?

auto tune is good. The older ones that allow for freq are s9v1. I moved mine last winter and only had Avalon here. I posted with philipma1957 a few days ago. Because I felt rentals were killing the pool. I am on a cell phone so I am using this account

Was it a problem with the hardware or software with the S9v1?

I'm having a. S9 which was delivered with autotune.
I disabled the autotune over ssh and make it run with 400mhz for more silent working.

[bussumseheide]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

29.83 x 30 = 895. So you are way too early to call falling skys

Please explain that math. For us noobs

+1

you have to wait 30 times longer than up to now ( 29.8%) before the next block is worse than  last hell block


[oh..btw..difficulty has been increased today with +21% so it can be easier to reach a new hell block]

[aessedai]

Here's one to change the tone a bit...has anyone else received an e-mail offering to sell you the Bitmain customer address database? Got one this morning.

Yes, in crazy broken Engrish.

[abdul.h]

Another noob question..
Do we get any benefit from the shares we're making now? I mean without a block being found

[aessedai]

I deleted it rather quickly after I received it this morning... 
I suspect it's a repercussion of the BiteMe hack some time ago when they lost a lot of customer info.  I had to reset my password for them after it happened, as did many others.  Oh well... Mine on!! 

Ah, yeah...I'd forgotten about that one. This is from a Chinese origin, FWIW. I'm deleting it also...just wanted to ask. It affirms the assertion in the mail that they actually have it.

What I want to know is why we are all getting the same junk e-mail.  Who sold our e-mail addresses from this Bitcoin Forum?  I have never been part of any forum, group or anything onlone before where suddenly the members were all getting the same junk mail.  This forum is what we all have in common, so I fear that it is compromised.

[judypug1956]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

29.83 x 30 = 895. So you are way too early to call falling skys

Please explain that math. For us noobs

+1

you have to wait 30 times longer than up to now ( 29.8%) before the next block is worse than  last hell block


[oh..btw..difficulty has been increased today with +21% so it can be easier to reach a new hell block]

first part is correct the record setter was 30 x bigger.  So no worries.  As to being easier to reach a 900% block due to higher difficulty you are incorrect . Those terror blocks are one in two thousand to one in ten thousand. The cdf  was 1.000  which can not happen only. .999999999999... endlessly getting close to 1 but never reaching 1.000 My best guess is .9996 cdf which is 4 of 10000 or 1 in 2500 is whAt  the odds are.  So if diff is 1200x or 1400x since that number cdf is for all it is no easier or harder to do a 900% block.

[mdude77]

I deleted it rather quickly after I received it this morning... 
I suspect it's a repercussion of the BiteMe hack some time ago when they lost a lot of customer info.  I had to reset my password for them after it happened, as did many others.  Oh well... Mine on!! 

Ah, yeah...I'd forgotten about that one. This is from a Chinese origin, FWIW. I'm deleting it also...just wanted to ask. It affirms the assertion in the mail that they actually have it.

What I want to know is why we are all getting the same junk e-mail.  Who sold our e-mail addresses from this Bitcoin Forum?  I have never been part of any forum, group or anything onlone before where suddenly the members were all getting the same junk mail.  This forum is what we all have in common, so I fear that it is compromised.

I think Bitmain's contact database was compromised. 

M

[wavelengthsf]

I think Bitmain's contact database was compromised.  

M

Yep - happened a couple months back. Bitmain sent out emails and urged everyone to change their password.

[shmoke-und-a-pancake]

BLOCk!

Quiet here
Block by schmokeandapancake
... and the anime shift was Ichiko ... hmmm is there a pattern here
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/binbougamiga/images/a/a8/Episode_02.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121118024752

Pattern = my miners like busty anime characters?

and as far as: "...Anyone else here of course if you have time to do it and can, please check your miners.
What I'm looking for is a miner with a "Best Share" above Network Difficulty 1,196,792,694,098..."

I have some but may be older than this streak (miners have > 250 days of uptime) so i'll send by PM

[kano]

BLOCk!

Quiet here
Block by schmokeandapancake
... and the anime shift was Ichiko ... hmmm is there a pattern here
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/binbougamiga/images/a/a8/Episode_02.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121118024752

Pattern = my miners like busty anime characters?

and as far as: "...Anyone else here of course if you have time to do it and can, please check your miners.
What I'm looking for is a miner with a "Best Share" above Network Difficulty 1,196,792,694,098..."

I have some but may be older than this streak (miners have > 250 days of uptime) so i'll send by PM

Well in your case you certainly will have some blocks in there
If they have a long up time, then even 11 or 12 digit "Best Share" would be good for the checking I'm doing.
It's of course shares that "should" be blocks, and the network difficulty at the time the "block" was found.

[kano]

sorry for being negative  
but here comes the block from hell again
please let me be wrong

Cheer up my man!  We are only at 29.83% and every block is expected to be at 100%

This is true

29.83 x 30 = 895. So you are way too early to call falling skys

Please explain that math. For us noobs

+1

The "Shares:" % on the web page is the number that matters when deciding if it is below or above expected.

At the moment we are at 44% with the current block, so that's still below expected average, but of course we haven't found the next block yet.

Then of course there's the CDF table to consider - we should expect to average about 2/3 of blocks below average 100% and about 1/3 of blocks above 100%
That's also why looking back at history for e.g. the last 500 blocks, we are still ahead of the average expected 100% even including these 2 nightmare blocks.
That 2/3 below makes up the average for the bad high % blocks that appear every so often.
It's just unfortunate that the 2 worst blocks of all time came in so close together
(though as I've said I'm checking lots of data to ensure everything is still ok)

Time is only a factor when the pool isn't expected to find quite a few blocks every diff change - about every 2 weeks -
otherwise, you don't look at the time, you look at the "Shares:" %

If we expect, on average, to find a block every 1.2 days (at the moment) then a 200% block would be 2.4 days, but from the CDF table, we expect, on average, one in every 7.4 blocks to be over 200%

Edit: and for anyone wondering ... the CDF values for those two blocks, to a few more decimal places are:
875.193% 0.99984
928.788% 0.99991

[kano]

Another noob question..
Do we get any benefit from the shares we're making now? I mean without a block being found

Your shares are what you get rewarded for - nothing else

When the pool finds a block, your reward from that block is the value of the shares you submitted in the last 5Nd vs the total submitted by everyone in the 5Nd.
(as it says on the Help->Payouts web page)

[abdul.h]

Another noob question..
Do we get any benefit from the shares we're making now? I mean without a block being found

Your shares are what you get rewarded for - nothing else

When the pool finds a block, your reward from that block is the value of the shares you submitted in the last 5Nd vs the total submitted by everyone in the 5Nd.
(as it says on the Help->Payouts web page)

Awesome!
Thanks for making such a great pool

[YabaDabaDoo]

I'm pushing ~60 TH of ~ 60 PH now

[Entropy-uc]

Now that the panic has subsided; Kano can you get your payments system working?

Since the Core fanatics seem determined to abort the 2x block size increase into another stupid fork, we will continue to not have a scaling solution.  These tiny inputs are killing me, and we are a pretty huge miner on your pool.  I can't see how most folks can even spend what they are getting from your per block payments.

I sent a transaction from a mining address last week and even manually setting the fee to a bare minimum, it cost $170 to process the transaction.  If I had used the recommended fee it would have cost over 1 BTC! 

[kano]

... and a possibly useful tool that I posted elsewhere on the forum long ago but use myself for this and have updated in the past also.

It's the PHP code to convert a share difficulty to an approximate of the block hash:

difftoblock.php

Code:

<?php
#
function basecvt($str, $frombase=10, $tobase=16)
{
 $str = trim($str);
 if (intval($frombase) != 10)
 {
  $len = strlen($str);
  $q = 0;
  for ($i=0; $i<$len; $i++)
  {
   $r = base_convert($str[$i], $frombase, 10);
   $q = bcadd(bcmul($q, $frombase), $r);
  }
 }
 else
  $q = $str;

 if (intval($tobase) != 10)
 {
  $s = '';
  while (bccomp($q, '0', 0) > 0)
  {
   $r = intval(bcmod($q, $tobase));
   $s = base_convert($r, 10, $tobase) . $s;
   $q = bcdiv($q, $tobase, 0);
  }
 }
 else
  $s = $q;

 return $s;
}
#
function bctrim($num0)
{
 if (strpos($num0, '.') === false)
  return $num0;
 else
 return rtrim(rtrim($num0, '0'), '.');
}
#
$diff = str_replace(',', '', $argv[1]);
#
bcscale(1000);
#
$d1_sp = '00000000 FFFF0000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000';
$d1_16 = str_replace(' ', '', $d1_sp);
$d1_0 = basecvt($d1_16, 16, 10);
$d1_10 = bctrim($d1_0);
#
$blk0 = bcdiv($d1_10, $diff);
$blk10 = bctrim($blk0);
$blk16 = basecvt($blk10, 10, 16);
#
echo "diff=$diff\n";
echo "d1_16=$d1_16\n";
echo "blk10=$blk10\n";
echo "blk16=$blk16\n";
#
?>

It works like this:

Code:

php difftoblock.php 13,515,318,406,575.7

diff=13515318406575.7
d1_16=00000000FFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
blk10=1994739190006393264211328987798730314111045124329010603.4118662030266775963456011609545381073605519916888689998048069750235059778050017483678112979756202597418432893164811479721865017459961002819477374188976756222446490354830161705531355123156955600591459765919442787026276796065071739050920751191689306882241755009962835324766554057278633589982821943902554137642807938368820659058105948301714646674725398837885180334465403321512266213331074098927544026464234001707213680957296203848893959638481620204022452776577543099321955289028826624308987405471068407670210379333941374893084405700389927434927907741052149912144384095509889985511226758984370371988163870776246813018969189185447847286620387026721495590395226016002561381504112927420444983609219293071249930342105875437563823497137260623462227520906901497102168738067263663510220693569146087249958245458016702391689090364528152624948312485492563873977733867807702954704854580469764421917353429927189806407208134290652114518068541438397536536285324879830325653866928329107454796350791816760757796910377261
blk16=14d377f075e75428ad14f23640ebd7ba03217a409375ab

The blk16 value is sorta the block hash so you search any source of block hashes you have for the first 6 or so characters with eight zeros on the front like so:
0000000014d377

For the linux gurus among, searching the bitcoind debug.log file would be:
grep 0000000014d377 debug.log

And my result of that on one of the node bitcoinds is:

Code:

2017-10-15 16:46:33.487916 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000014d377f075e7632439a087256b4dea039235fa2d90769c height=489987 version=0x20000000 log2_work=87.285942 tx=262350214 date='2017-10-15 16:46:07' progress=1.000000 cache=66.3MiB(37539tx)

So that shows block height=489987 for that diff value

and checking on blocktrail shows that is our block:
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/489987

[padrinogtr]

one more S9 online
LETS GO!!!