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May 12, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
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May 12, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
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It was in this thread but appears to have been removed.

Well that doesn't bode well.

Well the Admins should still see it and those in the community that keep the forum downloaded.

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May 12, 2012, 06:27:14 PM
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The best part about this is that its a so called "registered FSP"...just shows what that amounts to.


If Bitcoinica was sold, the new owners would have to be a registered FSP also. I just can't go and buy a real estate brokerage business--I must be licensed, among other things.
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May 12, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
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It was in this thread but appears to have been removed.
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I read it here also.
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May 12, 2012, 06:28:27 PM
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He's just fucking with you. The 8 digit remainder is binary. Convert the first 7 to ascii and you get "expect <space>".

Edit: the whole 21 characters spell "expect mass leak soon".

Edit 2: and given the first three characters of the address are EML, it might have been a vanity account.

Looks like he is advertising the fatal flaw that allowed the compromise, the email server.

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May 12, 2012, 06:29:26 PM
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One important question I don't think has been addressed here yet:

What about verification documents that were emailed to Bitcoinica? Were those compromised?



He said they weren't. That they were stored encrypted at some other server. Now I'm not sure if that was on this thread or on the statement they had at blogspot which is no longer there and nobody knows if was real or fake.

EDIT: Just checked and it was not in this thread.

I remember reading that as well.  I thought it was in this thread.  Perhaps the post has been edited/deleted.

I remember something like that from the Linoide debacle, but not this thread.
It was in this thread but appears to have been removed.
I've seen. In this thread. Do not have been compromised. Verification of the data - not been compromised.

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May 12, 2012, 06:42:00 PM
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..just to repost that statement
bitcoinica.blogspot.com



It is with much regret that we write to inform our users of a recent security breach at Bitcoinica. At approximately 1:00pm GMT, our live production servers were compromised by an attacker and they used this access to deplete our online wallet of 18547 BTC.

We will learn more as we investigate, but would like to address early concerns.
We have suspended operations while we focus on our investigation.
The overwhelming majority of our bitcoin deposits were not stolen.
The thief stole from us not you. All withdrawal requests will be honored.
The database was most likely compromised.

The last point has important implications for the following:

PASSWORDS
Bitcoinica uses the most stringent best practices for password security.* Therefore, it is extremely unlikely that even full database access would give the attacker knowledge of your Bitcoinica password. It is always best not to reuse passwords among different online services and we recommend changing passwords if you have done this.

IDENTIFYING DOCUMENTS
All identifying documents for verified customers are stored on separate servers at a separate data center and separately encrypted. Even full access to website database would not give the attacker access to this data.

USER INFORMATION
Other user information that you've provided upon account creation is stored in the database. If the attacker has full access to the database, they would have access to this information. This would include your username, email and account history, but not information about your banking details outside of Bitcoinca. Users should be especially suspicious of any emails received to your Bitcoinica email address. It is always a best practice to never click an email link to login to any online service.

We're providing this notice primarily for the protection of our users.

We will have more to say soon about the circumstances surrounding this attack and what we will do to handle it.

- The Bitcoinica Team




* For the technically inclined, we salt and encrypt passwords with bcrypt.
Posted 36 minutes ago by Bitcoinica

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May 12, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.

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May 12, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
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How convenient ... after Intersango gets bitcoinica some "hacker" steals all the coins.

Zhoutong was the only one awake during the "hack" ... why am I not surprised Huh
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May 12, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
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How convenient ... after Intersango gets bitcoinica some "hacker" steals all the coins.

Zhoutong was the only one awake during the "hack" ... why am I not surprised Huh

I'm going to go out there and say Zho   zho tounged his own service!!!
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Quick Update

- It's more serious than we thought.
[...]
- Reminder again: Please do not reuse your Bitcoinica passwords as the database server was compromised. Do not click any links in the email.

What email?  Has the attacker sent out an e-mail?

..just to repost that statement
bitcoinica.blogspot.com

[...]
The database was most likely compromised.
[...]
Other user information that you've provided upon account creation is stored in the database. If the attacker has full access to the database, they would have access to this information. This would include your username, email and account history

Account history shows balances, deposits, withdrawals and transactions all tied to my username.

If that is what will be leaked in the "mass leak"', there will be some interesting discoveries.  Discoveries like, for instance, the amount of past trading profits.   Will there be some ammended returns filed for the 2011 tax year as a result?

Particularly of interest would be the link between username and bitcoin addresses used for all deposits and withdraws.

That would be quite useful when doing flow analysis:
 - http://toolongdidntread.com
 - http://anonymity-in-bitcoin.blogspot.com/2011/07/bitcoin-is-not-anonymous.html

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May 12, 2012, 07:02:16 PM
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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.

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We didnt get any verification if it was really official.

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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.

--Ichthyo

Maybe I'm just "fishing" here, but who is "we" in the following?

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We didnt get any verification if it was really official.

~Bruno~


"we" == the readers in this form, especially in this thread  Grin
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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.

--Ichthyo

Maybe I'm just "fishing" here, but who is "we" in the following?

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We didnt get any verification if it was really official.

~Bruno~


You know, 'WE' as in 'US'.

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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.


Maybe I'm just "fishing" here, but who is "we" in the following?

"we" == the readers in this forum, especially following this thread Grin
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May 12, 2012, 07:11:18 PM
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to clarify: in my previous post, I just pasted in a statement, which appeared on bitcoinica.blogspot.com yesterday afternoon. It was the first sort-of official statement. We didnt get any verification if it was really official. The user "myself" re-posted it on this thread, I saved a copy locally, which I reposted here.

--Ichthyo

Maybe I'm just "fishing" here, but who is "we" in the following?

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We didnt get any verification if it was really official.

~Bruno~


"we" == the readers in this form, especially in this thread  Grin

Thanks, bud. Stupid me. Read it several times, but only now it makes sense.

Aside:

Whoever created this vanity address 1EMLwAwseowTkDtKnEHRKrwQvzi4HShxSX is the cracker. Notice that there is only one number in it--a 4. That took a while.
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Whoever created this vanity address 1EMLwAwseowTkDtKnEHRKrwQvzi4HShxSX is the cracker. Notice that there is only one number in it--a 4. That took a while.
I doubt that's intended. The EML prefix probably is, though.

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Another thing I was just thinking since Mt.Gox blacklists "tainted funds"  - they should go ahead and entertain the person to send their coins "to cash" out but never cash them out thus retrieving the coins again ?


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May 12, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
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Another thing I was just thinking since Mt.Gox blacklists "tainted funds"  - they should go ahead and entertain the person to send their coins "to cash" out but never cash them out thus retrieving the coins again ?

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May 12, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
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Whoever created this vanity address 1EMLwAwseowTkDtKnEHRKrwQvzi4HShxSX is the cracker. Notice that there is only one number in it--a 4. That took a while.
I doubt that's intended. The EML prefix probably is, though.

Is this relevant?

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