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Author Topic: [ANN][GAP] Gapcoin - Prime Gap Search - New Math Algo - CPU / GPU - Zero Premine  (Read 286856 times)
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September 05, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
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Somebody asked if there was another way to get gapcoin aside from mining or buying.

Simple answer, yes, freebitcoins.com/faucet... it doesn't matter how rich or poor their country is either.   Roll Eyes

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September 05, 2020, 01:26:08 AM
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You are trying to use idiot tools to pump up a science coin.

No ones pumping anything, fucktard.  Giving free GAP actually does the exact opposite of pump.  Roll Eyes

Maybe you should try to learn how to sync a wallet or mine before you start voicing your opinion publicly and expect us to take you even remotely seriously.

Faucets are fine, I used them a lot when I needed money, but it is ridiculous to use a faucet which will stop paying once traffic reaches a certain point to promote a coin that is unavailable to most people. You are trying to use a stupid solution to an old problem that isn’t even appropriate for gapcoin.

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The first coin to rocket past bitcoin will probably be the first coin which figures out how to create a simple human mining mechanism like Huntercoin or Motocoin which is bot resistant, and can be run on a slow rural connection with a cheap mobile that only has a primitive browser. My opinion.

I was a HUGE holder in Huntercoin.  It is absolutely not bot resistant.  I firmly believe Snailbrain had a bot previous to launch.

I lost 60 BTC or more on HUC.  Huntercoin had HUGE sync problems... biggest problems I've seen of any coin.  Not an opinion, fact

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September 05, 2020, 01:31:25 AM
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That is why the new coin has to be bot resistant fucktard.

You claimed HUC was bot resistant.  Which isn't even remotely true, fucktard!

You claimed HUC was easy to sync rurally.  Which isn't even remotely true either! 

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September 05, 2020, 01:43:05 AM
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That is why the new coin has to be bot resistant fucktard.

You claimed HUC was bot resistant.  Which isn't even remotely true, fucktard!

You claimed HUC was easy to sync rurally.  Which isn't even remotely true either!  

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The first coin to rocket past bitcoin will probably be the first coin which figures out how to create a simple human mining mechanism like Huntercoin or Motocoin which is bot resistant, and can be run on a slow rural connection with a cheap mobile that only has a primitive browser. My opinion.

Ah ok, I got you.  You're still wrong though fucktard.  Kiss Grin

You should go throw your life savings in something like that and see how it works out!  

You'd be better off learning how to build and design a mastermind of people that can do things you don't know how to do yourself. *hugs*

It's ironic your screen name has Guthrie in it... you remind me of some pole smoker I knew in school named Grant Guthrie.  Same arrogant "I know everything" attitude and an opinion about everything, but they couldn't actually do anything and had no experience.

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That is why the new coin has to be bot resistant fucktard.

You claimed HUC was bot resistant.  Which isn't even remotely true, fucktard!

You claimed HUC was easy to sync rurally.  Which isn't even remotely true either!  

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The first coin to rocket past bitcoin will probably be the first coin which figures out how to create a simple human mining mechanism like Huntercoin or Motocoin which is bot resistant, and can be run on a slow rural connection with a cheap mobile that only has a primitive browser. My opinion.

Ah ok, I got you.  You're still wrong though fucktard.  Kiss Grin

You should go throw your life savings in something like that and see how it works out!  

You'd be better off learning how to build and design a mastermind of people that can do things you don't know how to do yourself. *hugs*

It's ironic your screen name has Guthrie in it... you remind me of some pole smoker I knew in school named Grant Guthrie.  Same arrogant "I know everything" attitude and an opinion about everything, but they couldn't actually do anything and had no experience.

You are waiting for a rich person to tell you what do do. Keep waiting.

You got life fucked up kid.  Again, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I'm the boss bitch.   Kiss


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September 05, 2020, 03:38:47 AM
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I'm the boss bitch.  
You can be whatever kind of bitch you want. Just keep reading Dale Carnegie. You can do it.

Thanks for your support.  Kiss

Come trade some Gapcoins someday... I'm sure you're loaded with opinions about trading, I'd love to see you put your money where your opinion is!   https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/BTC_GAP

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FYI: a table showing a rough-and-ready relationship between the shift setting and the number of digits in the primes tested (data taken from the publicly-accessible gapdata.sqlite3.zip SQLite3 database file here on mega.nz).

ShiftPrimedigits
1682
1783
1883
1983
2084
2184
2284
2384
2485
2585
2685
2786
2886
3087
3187
3287
3488
3588
3688
3788
3789
3989
4090
4190
4290
4390
4591
4691
4792
4892
4992
5093
5092
5594
5795
5794
5895
6095
6096
6396
6397
6497
6998
7299
74100
75100
88104
90105
95106
96106
100107
100108
105109
110111
112111
115112
120114
120114
121114
122114
123114
123115
125115
126115
127116
128116
130116
132117
144121
150122
150123
156124
180132
187134
188134
189134
190135
191135
192135
200138
225145
250153
255154
256154
256155
286164
300168
301168
308170
328176
330177
348182
350183
351183
356185
360186
380192
381192
382192
383193
391195
392195
392196
404199
409200
409201
412201
412202
414202
415202
416203
437209
440210
441210
442210
442211
443211
444211
445212
446212
447212
448212
449213
450213
451213
468218
472219
472220
473220
474220
476221
477221
478221
479222
480222
481222
482223
483223
502229
504229
506230
508230
509231
510231
511231
512232
540240
541240
542241
543241
544241
546242
547242
574250
576251
602259
607260
608260
608261
630267
634268
640270
698287
699288
700288
702289
720294
732298
760306
762307
764307
764308
765308
767308
790315
794316
794317
797317
798318
799318
828327
829327
830327
831327
831328
832328
860336
888345
896347
920354
920355
986374
987375
988375
991376
992376
1010381
1011382
1012382
1014383
1017383
1019384
1020384
1020385
1021385
1022385
1023385
1023386
1024386

(I've found that the higher the shift setting, the lower the hashrate, unsurprising).

Gapcoin maxes out (nominally) at a shift of 1024 (as set by Jonny Frey, to avoid DoS) with a max prime digit length of 386, around number 10000 of 95000 in a sorted list of primedigit lengths taken from the prime gaps list (where the extreme upper regions see prime digit lengths of 100,000-200,000).

However, the criterion is maximum known merit and gap size, not the number of digits in the prime and it's worth noting that the current record for the largest prime gap with best merit is still held by Gapcoin with a(n inferred, from "87-digit prime") shift of 30:

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NEW PRIME GAP OF MAXIMUM KNOWN MERIT
The Gapcoin network (Jonnie Frey, developer), a Bitcoin derivative which employs a hashing algorithm to search for prime gaps of high merit, has discovered a new prime gap of maximum known merit, a gap of G=8350 following the 87-digit prime P1=293703234068022590158723766104419463425709075574811762098588798217895728858676728143227. The merit M=G/ln(P1) of this gap is M=41.93878373153988, the largest merit of any known prime gap, and the first prime gap to be discovered with a merit exceeding 40. The endpoints of the gap have been certified as primes deterministically, using the Akiyama-Kida-O'Hara UBASIC implementation (1988-1992) of the APRCL2 test, due to Adleman, Pomerance, Rumely, Cohen, H. W. Lenstra, and A. K. Lenstra (1984-1987).

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September 06, 2020, 06:13:06 AM
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... and it's worth noting that the current record for the largest prime gap with best merit is still held by Gapcoin with a (n inferred, from "87-digit prime") shift of 30

For the record, two gaps with highest merits on GapCoin blockchain so far have been found with a shift of 32, but there is nothing magical or clandestine about 32 here!

http://gapcoin.org/primegaps-merits.php
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/gap/block.dws?646118.htm#raw
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/gap/block.dws?655591.htm#raw
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... and it's worth noting that the current record for the largest prime gap with best merit is still held by Gapcoin with a (n inferred, from "87-digit prime") shift of 30

For the record, two gaps with highest merits on GapCoin blockchain so far have been found with a shift of 32, but there is nothing magical or clandestine about 32 here!
I stand corrected (I did acknowledge that it was a rough-and-ready relationship). Dunno why I didn't check before I posted ...

fwiw, this is how to use sqlitebrowser to obtain the figures from the "data" table (in the sqlite3 database to which I posted a link above).



The "gaps" table is the same one used by Seth Troisi in his post to the prime gap search group of the mersenneforum, he used select year, max(merit) from gaps group by year; to get the table he posted to the group: https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=536596&postcount=115

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September 07, 2020, 10:28:58 AM
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...snip...

2886
3087
 <<<<<  Gapcoin is currently here in terms of primespersec network hash power vs prime gaps of highest merit found
3187
3287
 <<<<<  Gapcoin is currently here in terms of primespersec network hash power vs prime gaps of highest merit found
3488

...snip...

Great work Graham!

Your efforts reminded me of a quote by Bruce Schneier in regards to Tor project Metrics ...

"... "Finally, Tor metrics are the ammunition that lets Tor and other security advocates argue for a more private and secure Internet from a position of data, rather than just dogma or perspective. It's where the real world influences Tor.” ... "
- Bruce Schneier (June 1, 2016)
- https://metrics.torproject.org/about.html


This all helps to demonstrate that from a mathematical standpoint Gapcoin can already do what it claims to do.

It would be really fantastic to see the upper bound limits removed someday, perhaps.

We simply need moar primespersec (network has power) i.e. more folks mining and/or better miners / ASICs etc.,

Empirical evidence and results are already on the blockchain by Gapcoin's own design.

...

I've said this before, but Gapcoin is the Cryptocurrency / Mathematical (Prime Gaps research) equivalent of building a working Large Hadron Collider to search for "The God Particle" and instead of switching it on, just leaving it buried in the sand ...

Large Hadron Collider
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

Stargate (1/12) Movie CLIP - The Stargate Is Discovered (1994) HD
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HINT: Need moar pulley ropes!
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulley

Stargate (2/12) Movie CLIP - Activation of the Stargate (1994) HD
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Coffee!, anyone?

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It would be really fantastic to see the upper bound limits removed someday, perhaps.

We simply need moar primespersec (network has power) i.e. more folks mining and/or better miners / ASICs etc.,

I don't believe that the upper bound on shift value is a blocking issue. Back in Dec 2017, YomKi articulated why:

There are a few different methods being used for current gap finding efforts:

  • Exhaustive search.  This is looking for true record gaps, which means it started at 2 and went up from there.  It's intensely computationally expensive.  Tomás Oliveira e Silva ran a distributed project from 2005 to 2012 that got to 4e18 using years of work on hundreds of cores.  Interestingly, the computational result was used in Helfgott's 2013 proof of the Odd Goldbach Conjecture.  Recently the PGS team at mersenneforum have used a different method to extend this and after about 9 months have brought this to 10e18.  The number of records per computational effort is very small, however these are true Minimal Gaps -- once found the record is permanent, as no earlier gaps of that size exist.

  • Gapcoin.  For relatively small P1 values (84-347 digits), choose a random small range, sieve out small multiples, then run Fermat tests to find gaps.  While each step is efficient and fast, it's rather inefficient at finding record gaps.  It's basically rapidly throwing darts while blindfolded and being spun around -- the only way to get more darts in the target is to throw faster.

  • Primorial methods.  Gaps are far more common at multiples of primorials without some small divisors, e.g. numbers of the form N * p# / k with k a small square free number.  So if one looks at increasing values of N * 191#/30, for instance, using efficient methods for finding the previous and next primes around that point, one can find record gaps many times times faster than the gapcoin method.  That is the method used by most other searchers and is what holds all but 3 of the highest merits (those three being from the exhaustive search).  There are some minor variations -- Hans Rosenthal in 2017 did searches with a fixed large N and instead varied k.  Using the dart analogy from before, this is throwing darts while aiming at the target.  The darts are thrown a lot slower, but since they're all thrown in the direction of the target rather than randomly around the room, more of them result in high results.

I find it worth bearing in mind that the Gapcoin code is performing not one but two functions - the discovery of prime gaps with record merit is a designed side-effect of using prime gap search as as a proof-of-work mechanism for a cryptocurrency and that dual functioning requirement necessarily restricts the range of P1 values that can be selected. As I noted, the higher the shift, the larger the primes being sieved and so the lower the hash rate. More efficient primorial-based methods for finding gaps are an ill fit with the requirement to act as a proof-of-work mechanism. The Prime Gap Search group of the mersenne forum has an open source primorial-based gap search implementation but, given its functional focus is on searching gaps, it's not a good solution for a proof-of-work implementation.

The fact that the Gapcoin prime gap record search implementation isn't as efficient as a dedicated approach is an inevitable trade-off arising from its use as a proof-of-work mechanism. Baisically, it's a balance and emphasising one aspect of this dual-functioning comes at the expense of the other.

Also, PM'd to BitcoinFX ...
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I hope to finish this upgrade of Gapcoin to 0.16.3 in time to coincide with your announcement schedule:



Although most of the work is done and it syncs with both mainnet and testnet, it's unreleased because I have yet to get all the tests passing and it's unmentioned publicly because of its capacity to create bech32 txs which 0.9 clients can't handle and which might result in blockchain seizure. Also, I haven't ported the miner - which uses the old and no-longer-supported getwork RPC call - nor have I had time even to test my back-ported implementation of getwork (a potential but unlikely-to-succeed fallback attempt).

You see, 0.16.3 is a bit old as a target for an upgrade, 0.20 would be better, 0.19.1 a minimum. I'm working on it.

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There are lots of Johnny Freys, including several who are much more likely to have created Gapcoin.

This looks like a last ditch effort to pump Gapcoin before new prime gap seeking coins are issued, and Gapcoin bags become worthless.

Your handwaviness involves a lot of work though, keep it up.
A typical gratuitously offensive post from you as usual. And as usual, you can't provide any support for your accusations, you're just pulling them out of your arse - which is why no-one cares what you think. So why are you even making the effort? Take yourself off elsewhere, you've made yourself unwelcome in this thread and as from now, I've set you on ignore.

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It would be really fantastic to see the upper bound limits removed someday, perhaps.

We simply need moar primespersec (network has power) i.e. more folks mining and/or better miners / ASICs etc.,

I don't believe that the upper bound on shift value is a blocking issue. Back in Dec 2017, YomKi articulated why:

There are a few different methods being used for current gap finding efforts:

  • Exhaustive search.  This is looking for true record gaps, which means it started at 2 and went up from there.  It's intensely computationally expensive.  Tomás Oliveira e Silva ran a distributed project from 2005 to 2012 that got to 4e18 using years of work on hundreds of cores.  Interestingly, the computational result was used in Helfgott's 2013 proof of the Odd Goldbach Conjecture.  Recently the PGS team at mersenneforum have used a different method to extend this and after about 9 months have brought this to 10e18.  The number of records per computational effort is very small, however these are true Minimal Gaps -- once found the record is permanent, as no earlier gaps of that size exist.

  • Gapcoin.  For relatively small P1 values (84-347 digits), choose a random small range, sieve out small multiples, then run Fermat tests to find gaps.  While each step is efficient and fast, it's rather inefficient at finding record gaps.  It's basically rapidly throwing darts while blindfolded and being spun around -- the only way to get more darts in the target is to throw faster.

  • Primorial methods.  Gaps are far more common at multiples of primorials without some small divisors, e.g. numbers of the form N * p# / k with k a small square free number.  So if one looks at increasing values of N * 191#/30, for instance, using efficient methods for finding the previous and next primes around that point, one can find record gaps many times times faster than the gapcoin method.  That is the method used by most other searchers and is what holds all but 3 of the highest merits (those three being from the exhaustive search).  There are some minor variations -- Hans Rosenthal in 2017 did searches with a fixed large N and instead varied k.  Using the dart analogy from before, this is throwing darts while aiming at the target.  The darts are thrown a lot slower, but since they're all thrown in the direction of the target rather than randomly around the room, more of them result in high results.

I find it worth bearing in mind that the Gapcoin code is performing not one but two functions - the discovery of prime gaps with record merit is a designed side-effect of using prime gap search as as a proof-of-work mechanism for a cryptocurrency and that dual functioning requirement necessarily restricts the range of P1 values that can be selected. As I noted, the higher the shift, the larger the primes being sieved and so the lower the hash rate. More efficient primorial-based methods for finding gaps are an ill fit with the requirement to act as a proof-of-work mechanism. The Prime Gap Search group of the mersenne forum has an open source primorial-based gap search implementation but, given its functional focus is on searching gaps, it's not a good solution for a proof-of-work implementation.

The fact that the Gapcoin prime gap record search implementation isn't as efficient as a dedicated approach is an inevitable trade-off arising from its use as a proof-of-work mechanism. Baisically, it's a balance and emphasising one aspect of this dual-functioning comes at the expense of the other.

...snip...

Indeed. I'm just keen to see what additional Prime Gaps Gapcoin might spin-up as the hash rate hopefully increases.

No forks required in the mean tine of course (an intentional pun).

P.S. Looks good Graham. I will PM you back ASAP. I guess we are going to have to co-ordinate a lot more on this one from now on then.

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You see, 0.16.3 is a bit old as a target for an upgrade, 0.20 would be better, 0.19.1 a minimum. I'm working on it.

I failed to provide the supportive reasoning for this statement. 0.19/0.20 more desirable than 0.16 i) because of the improvements in tx reliability brought by segregated witness txs and ii) because of known CVEs: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=12094.

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...snip...

I’m happy to be ignored by you.

You pick a random obituary and try to add mystique to gapcoin by pushing the notion that it was created by a gifted mathematician who died at a young age. Do you have any proof that was the developer of gapcoin? If not, what sort of other shoddy things are being invented under the gapcoin logo?

~

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Gapcoin needs developers, not a pump crew.

You keep pretending to speak on behalf of everybody involved in gapcoin.

I initially came back to this thread to suggest somebody create an exchange which could be used to rapidly arbitrage or trade science and math coins. I offered some pretty good domains free to kickstart that.

You then chimed in trying to discourage anybody from such a project because of a list of excuses you dreamed up. You do seem to know quite a bit about coding, more than me at least, I don’t know anything about it. But other than that you are a moron. No offense intended.


@SinbadGuthrie - Strong circumstantial evidence suggests that said John Allen Frey 1991 - 2017 was the original developer of Gapcoin. This includes the email reference which can be found in Gapcoin's original PoW code and information I've previously presented in this topic.

If you have evidence to the contrary as to who the original Gapcoin developer(s) is/was then please kindly enlighten us all.

No one else from the original development (team?) has been forthcoming do-date, despite open requests for information in this thread.

...

Gapcoin is obviously not a 'pump and dump' project.

Graham is doing a sterling job to continue with development on a mostly single handed basis. Anyone is more than welcome to continue with submissions and commits to the community repository, currently being headed by Graham.

Whilst a math and science crypto exchange is a reasonable concept, anyone who might develop one is going to do so on a domain name they would
acquire directly from a reputable domain names register, one would imagine.

Graham is a more than competent coder and developer with years of experience. Your words are simply meaningless.

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Come on people, why do you even bother to argue with a newbie account which the only activity is trolling Gapcoin and Namecoin? Your work is much appreciated. Keep it up.
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September 08, 2020, 06:02:49 PM
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Rest assured that we aim to continue the project with or without the original developers (who seemingly remain AWOL).

No 'pump and dump' or 'bag unloading' here ... I think it's quite clear that I've been interested in this project from the get-go.

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@SinbadGuthrie - Your 'evidence' in regards to the 'true' developer would be?

@SinbadGuthrie - The improved Prime Gap finding cryptocurrency is where?

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Who is/was j0nn9 ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=302146

- https://github.com/j0nn9

Mathematics Department Hosts Pie-themed Party to celebrate Pi Day
- https://web.archive.org/web/20181107214743/https://kealakai.byuh.edu/content/mathematics-department-hosts-pie-themed-party-celebrate-pi-day

"The BYU-Hawaii Mathematics Department gave out free pizza and pies to celebrate Pi Day and promote the Math Learning Center at 2:30pm on Monday, March 14 in the General Classroom Building.

John Frey, a senior from Florida studying physics education and math tutor at the center, said the Mathematics Department has a Pi Day party every year on March 14 since the digits for the number pi are 3.14. Dr. Russel Carlson, assistant professor of mathematics, said this year’s Pi Day is “Rounded Pi Day” because when the number is rounded to the fourth decimal place, it equals 3.1416.

According to Frey, the department wanted to take advantage of the unique date to promote the Math Learning Center. Also known as the Math Lab, the center has its own computer lab where students can receive help from tutors with their math homework.

Even though the party is done every year, Frey said, “It was kind of a bigger deal for us this semester because it was happening after the first week of school as opposed to near the end of the semester.”

Frey said the tutors wanted to show their fun side. He said, “We just wanted to say, ‘Hey, we’re tutors, we’re fun, we like to party, and we’re friendly people.’ We’re trying to put a little more fun in math because without something like a math lab, math is such a pain for people.”

After serving free pizza and pie, Dr. Carlson gave a presentation about the history of the number pi. “The earliest record we have of it dates back to 2000 BC. There was an old, Egyptian papyrus known as the Rhind Papyrus. It has an approximation of pi: 16 divided by 9 quantity squared,” said Carlson.

Carlson said the idea of the number pi is also found in the Bible. He said, “When King Solomon was building his temple, there are all of these descriptions and dimensions. For the molten basin in 1 Kings 7:23, it says it was 10 cubits across and 30 cubits round about. That ratio - 30 divided by 10 - is three, an approximation of pi.”

Fascinated by the progress humans have made, Carlson said, “Currently we know over five trillion digits of pi thanks to computers. I have a file with the first million digits, but there’s no way I’d save a file with all five trillion.”

After Dr. Carlson’s presentation, students and math faculty competed in a competition to see who could solve a rubix cube the fastest. Then, students and faculty participated in a competition to see who could write the most amount of digits of pi. Carlson won, writing 40 digits after the decimal.

Students then competed in a pie-eating contest where they had to clear a plate of whipped cream. DonEliezer Baize, a sophomore from Kahuku studying mathematics and a math lab tutor, won the contest and received a free apple pie as his prize.

Baize said he was happy with how the activity turned out. “Students love food, so we figured we gotta hook up those college students with some free pie. We threw in pizza, making it a solid homerun.”

Frey said, “People dread math, so it’s not only our job to help them with their homework, but to relieve their stress. Activities like this are perfect excuses to have fun, and we don’t get those too often.”

The Math Lab is located in GCB 177. For information on hours and resources, visit math.byuh.edu/mathlab."


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Q: How does the Twin Paradox work?
- https://www.askamathematician.com/2010/09/q-how-does-the-twin-paradox-work/comment-page-1/

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John Allen Frey ? 1991 - 2017 - Obituary

- https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/decaturdailydemocrat/obituary.aspx?pid=185690571

"John Allen Frey, 26, formerly of Decatur, passed away May 12, 2017, in California, Md., after battling illnesses for nine months. He was born in Orange Park, Fla., John and his family resided in Maine, Washington State, Puerto Rico and South Carolina.
He graduated from Brigham Young University Hawaii in 2016 with degrees in physics education (Magna cum Laude) and mathematics. He taught physics and science at Oak Ridge High School in Orlando, Fla.
John enjoyed teaching, spending time with his family, and writing, directing and acting in productions. He was especially gifted with the piano, which he played most of his life, composing many original pieces..."


- https://www.gofundme.com/funeral-expenses-for-john-frey

"As some of you may know - and many of you may not - for nearly the last year, John suffered through severe illness. The severe, relentless physical pain weighed on his shoulders day in and day out, unbeknownst to many. Through countless doctors appointments, visits, and even surgery - doctors were unable to find the cause or provide any relief for John's ailments.

In an attempt to lessen the pain, doctors prescribed John medications that had side effects: severe depression and suicidal tendencies.

On May 12, 2017 John Allen Frey left this life.

John's passing was unexpected. We, his family, are heart broken. We're trying to process and grieve the loss of our son, brother, nephew, cousin, grandson, friend. ..."


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My sincere condolences - BitcoinFX

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I assert that John Allen Frey was the original developer of Gapcoin and hence the community here can now better understand the situation. It would appear that John's family members (or professors / colleagues?) might have maintained elements of the project in legacy to John.

Once I have established that the above is indeed correct, as the Gapcoin community, we can work to continue his great legacy.

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But when I looked at the actual difference, it was offering to update the reference from:
Code:
ID       : ca5e863b1ff6c0a9655fadb951f1d9653ba24ef1

Author   : Jonny Frey <j0nn9.fr39@gmail.com>
           07/01/2015 22:43

Message:
1024 max shift should work for all

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September 08, 2020, 06:48:27 PM
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I really love the ignore button

Why all the sudden hate? ANYBODY who has been involved or following this coin knows the facts..Who started/has supported...
I really dont understand the hostility. If you dont like the coin move on, if you do like the coin - stay and positively contribute.

Pretty easy concept to me...
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September 08, 2020, 09:37:50 PM
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Rest assured that we aim to continue the project with or without the original developers (who seemingly remain AWOL).

No 'pump and dump' or 'bag unloading' here ... I think it's quite clear that I've been interested in this project from the get-go.

...

@SinbadGuthrie - Your 'evidence' in regards to the 'true' developer would be?

@SinbadGuthrie - The improved Prime Gap finding cryptocurrency is where?

...

Who is/was j0nn9 ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=302146

- https://github.com/j0nn9

Mathematics Department Hosts Pie-themed Party to celebrate Pi Day
- https://web.archive.org/web/20181107214743/https://kealakai.byuh.edu/content/mathematics-department-hosts-pie-themed-party-celebrate-pi-day

"The BYU-Hawaii Mathematics Department gave out free pizza and pies to celebrate Pi Day and promote the Math Learning Center at 2:30pm on Monday, March 14 in the General Classroom Building.

John Frey, a senior from Florida studying physics education and math tutor at the center, said the Mathematics Department has a Pi Day party every year on March 14 since the digits for the number pi are 3.14. Dr. Russel Carlson, assistant professor of mathematics, said this year’s Pi Day is “Rounded Pi Day” because when the number is rounded to the fourth decimal place, it equals 3.1416.....


The Math Lab is located in GCB 177. For information on hours and resources, visit math.byuh.edu/mathlab."


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Q: How does the Twin Paradox work?
- https://www.askamathematician.com/2010/09/q-how-does-the-twin-paradox-work/comment-page-1/

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John Allen Frey ? 1991 - 2017 - Obituary

- https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/decaturdailydemocrat/obituary.aspx?pid=185690571

"John Allen Frey, 26, formerly of Decatur, passed away May 12, 2017, in California, Md.....

- https://www.gofundme.com/funeral-expenses-for-john-frey

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On May 12, 2017 John Allen Frey left this life.

John's passing was unexpected. We, his family, are heart broken. We're trying to process and grieve the loss of our son, brother, nephew, cousin, grandson, friend. ..."


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My sincere condolences - BitcoinFX

...

I assert that John Allen Frey was the original developer of Gapcoin and hence the community here can now better understand the situation. It would appear that John's family members (or professors / colleagues?) might have maintained elements of the project in legacy to John.

Once I have established that the above is indeed correct, as the Gapcoin community, we can work to continue his great legacy.

...

...snip...

But when I looked at the actual difference, it was offering to update the reference from:
Code:
ID       : ca5e863b1ff6c0a9655fadb951f1d9653ba24ef1

Author   : Jonny Frey <j0nn9.fr39@gmail.com>
           07/01/2015 22:43

Message:
1024 max shift should work for all

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Your twin paradox page looks interesting and I bookmarked it.

The rest of your post is silliness.

I’m not interested specifically in who started Gapcoin, my point is just that you are identifying a random dead person as Gapcoin creator for whatever reason, probably to add some spice to the Gapcoin image ‘Young math prodigy creates gapcoin then dies’. Eventually you could hire some professional fiction writers to fluff it up further. Was he also Satoshi Nakamoto? We are researching that, check back later.

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Hardly 'silliness'.  Roll Eyes

John Allen Frey/j0nn9 is/was not Satoshi Nakamoto. Nowhere have I asserted that he was.

Perhaps you would care to actually answer the questions I asked ?

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September 09, 2020, 07:32:51 AM
Last edit: September 09, 2020, 08:01:37 AM by BitcoinFX
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1 @SinbadGuthrie - Your 'evidence' in regards to the 'true' developer would be?

Not my business nor interest to find the specific John Frey who made Gapcoin. My only point was that the person you identified is pretty likely not the Gapcoin developer. If you want to find the original Gapcoin developer send an email to that email address. Or Google “John Frey” + bitcoin, or “John Frey” + prime gaps, or look for John Frey on LinkedIn.

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You don't think that is exactly what we already did and also how we came to the above most likely conclusion ?

Roll Eyes

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Congratulations! You have only succeeded in trolling yourself.

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