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Author Topic: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins  (Read 227031 times)
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October 17, 2014, 08:09:17 AM
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Things seem to be heating up over in the UK.  There's this info that is saying he is "arrested" for "questioning".  Course there's no third party confirmation of any of this right now that I could see so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jeu1s/dcrypt_fund_on_twitter_just_got_the_confirmation/
https://twitter.com/dcryptfund/status/522708331182702592

People are watching this page to see if he makes an appearance. lol
https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/newsroom/in-court/

This was an interesting read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2jds24/moolah_a_digital_currency_startup_that_raised

And the drama has made it to PCMag as well
http://au.pcmag.com/bitcoin/25274/news/exclusive-moolah-ceo-resigns-amidst-identity-fraud

And lastly it looks like SYS is going to take legal action
https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/522742327727890432


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October 17, 2014, 08:12:12 AM
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Requested my withdrawal of 193 DRK.  (I reported 190 DRK earlier, couldn't remember exact amount.)  Will update if/when I receive it.

Withdrawal of 193 DRK (first reported 190 DRK) complete and confirmed.  The TX hash showed up in Mintpal when it was generated under "Withdrawal Status" (previously said "Requested" or something like that), and the TX popped up in my wallet a few seconds later.  Confirmation in a block followed within a few minutes.

http://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/tx/f657a59a578306d5d8822df3819badedfaec172de837c5f8e9a9368f68459e1d

EDIT: Based on the timestamps for these posts, it took approximately 1.5 hours for my withdrawal to go through.

So this is coming from that big wallet that originated from a bunch of known MP addresses. It's possible these have all been legitimate withdrawals then, I guess, which would be very good news for all the others with DRK stored in MP.

His TX: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?612821.htm

Latest in the "chain": https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?613190.htm

The random amounts actually match what you'd expect to be withdrawals pretty well.

Yes, considering that this wallet currently has around 5% of all DRK, and is the 3rd-richest DRK address, I think this is a pretty good sign for DRK holders on Mintpal.  Maybe the earlier transactions that we saw from this wallet were legitimate withdrawals to people who had requested them via e-mail or other something?

This process stopped about 8 h ago (manual execution?), latest in that chain is
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?613843.htm
Still #3 on rich list, easy to follow...  Smiley

Seems they do it one DRK withdraw per block (or less), roughly ~16-18 withdraws per hour.
If doing manual, and 2 man shift work, 14h per day (am I to optimistic?) , then ~14 hours x 16 = 200-220 withdraws per one full working day.
Weekend ahead, so seems I must have enough patience to wait for my DRK coins until some time mid next week
I have no idea though, how many accounts @ MP were holding DRK's . Anyone knows this?

Hard to say but they went from ~270k DRK to ~226k DRK during that time.  So they got rid of ~44k DRK or roughly 16% of their holdings.  So if they keep up that rate, they will need ~6 working days to get all of the withdrawals processed.

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DRK XvFhRFQwvBAmFkaii6Kafmu6oXrH4dSkVF
Eligius Payouts/CPPSRB Explained  I am not associated with Eligius in any way.  I just think that it is a good pool with a cool payment system Smiley
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October 17, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
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Got all my coins out, thanks for the help  Wink

Hope the rest get sorted for all of you.

welcome. hopefully more will get funds back now.
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October 17, 2014, 08:27:46 AM
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.......This process stopped about 8 h ago (manual execution?), latest in that chain is
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?613843.htm
Still #3 on rich list, easy to follow...  Smiley

Seems they do it one DRK withdraw per block (or less), roughly ~16-18 withdraws per hour.
If doing manual, and 2 man shift work, 14h per day (am I to optimistic?) , then ~14 hours x 16 = 200-220 withdraws per one full working day.
Weekend ahead, so seems I must have enough patience to wait for my DRK coins until some time mid next week
I have no idea though, how many accounts @ MP were holding DRK's . Anyone knows this?

Hard to say but they went from ~270k DRK to ~226k DRK during that time.  So they got rid of ~44k DRK or roughly 16% of their holdings.  So if they keep up that rate, they will need ~6 working days to get all of the withdrawals processed.

I know to assume this is all a linear process - is a bit stupid. But in case we have no better reference, then:
they have "melted" that  wallet by 41506 DRK in 5.58 hours, or 7438 DRK/h
To melt is all to zero (at the same rate) would take 226458DRK:7438 = 30.44 hours
If this comes true - sure is better then MtGox  Smiley

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October 17, 2014, 08:35:47 AM
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Things seem to be heating up over in the UK.  There's this info that is saying he is "arrested" for "questioning".  Course there's no third party confirmation of any of this right now that I could see so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jeu1s/dcrypt_fund_on_twitter_just_got_the_confirmation/
https://twitter.com/dcryptfund/status/522708331182702592

People are watching this page to see if he makes an appearance. lol
https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/newsroom/in-court/

This was an interesting read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2jds24/moolah_a_digital_currency_startup_that_raised

And the drama has made it to PCMag as well
http://au.pcmag.com/bitcoin/25274/news/exclusive-moolah-ceo-resigns-amidst-identity-fraud

And lastly it looks like SYS is going to take legal action
https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/522742327727890432


If he has broken the law, it would be great to see him in front of the beak.

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October 17, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
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I am wondering if the "new VC investor" might be the SysCoin teams BTCs, anyone got address to it?

We really do hope he's NOT using the funds in any way!

Things seem to be heating up over in the UK.  There's this info that is saying he is "arrested" for "questioning".  Course there's no third party confirmation of any of this right now that I could see so take it with a grain of salt.

And lastly it looks like SYS is going to take legal action
https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/522742327727890432


Alex / Moolah has a deadline until today to release all funds.
Meanwhile the required documents for legal actions are prepared to be ready to send them over at deadline + 1 minute.

Though we hope this is being cleared ( = the escrow funds are sent without legal actions) we are prepared.
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October 17, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
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if you have any more links on Moolah scammed funds other than coins like the escrow, post here and I will include
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October 17, 2014, 08:54:36 AM
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I am wondering if the "new VC investor" might be the SysCoin teams BTCs, anyone got address to it?

We really do hope he's NOT using the funds in any way!

Things seem to be heating up over in the UK.  There's this info that is saying he is "arrested" for "questioning".  Course there's no third party confirmation of any of this right now that I could see so take it with a grain of salt.

And lastly it looks like SYS is going to take legal action
https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/522742327727890432


Alex / Moolah has a deadline until today to release all funds.
Meanwhile the required documents for legal actions are prepared to be ready to send them over at deadline + 1 minute.

Though we hope this is being cleared ( = the escrow funds are sent without legal actions) we are prepared.

that's a lot of BTC. earlier claims of Moolah dumping large amounts of BTC when Mintpal V1 went offline are now becoming more plausible...
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October 17, 2014, 09:40:10 AM
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Cryptsy down now??? http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/cryptsy.com.html

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October 17, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours. 
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours.  

weird that the 2 largest dark exchanges go down one after the other.  sure it's fine on this one lol
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October 17, 2014, 10:16:17 AM
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours.  

weird that the 2 largest dark exchanges go down one after the other.  sure it's fine on this one lol

If I owned one of the other exchanges I'd be going in for the kill and doing all I can to catch the orphaned volume! Smiley
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October 17, 2014, 10:22:23 AM
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours.  

weird that the 2 largest dark exchanges go down one after the other.  sure it's fine on this one lol

If I owned one of the other exchanges I'd be going in for the kill and doing all I can to catch the orphaned volume! Smiley

+1, I would be on a marketing Jihad as well, advertising some form of redundancy and backup for all customer funds...

The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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October 17, 2014, 10:28:02 AM
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours.  

weird that the 2 largest dark exchanges go down one after the other.  sure it's fine on this one lol

If I owned one of the other exchanges I'd be going in for the kill and doing all I can to catch the orphaned volume! Smiley

+1, I would be on a marketing Jihad as well, advertising some form of redundancy and backup for all customer funds...

I've just got in contact with an Exchange based close to where I live in London.  They are low volume but not compromising on quality and security...building things slowly and legally imho.  They are a real company with real staff (transparent identities), real offices etc etc.  I'm not saying I know that they are safe but I've just asked them...why not go for the kill now?  Why not offer zero trading fees for a while?  Bonuses for volume?  I'd be moving heaven and earth if I were them right now.

Your rivals are down...keep twatting them with a stick until you know they're dead!

On a more savoury note...the sooner we can get away from centralised exchange the better.  Its going to take a far bigger brain than mine to make that happen though.  I can help swing a stick though...
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October 17, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
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Missing Coins

BTC 0.7+
LTC 15+
DRK 28+
PND 2.5 million+
Karma 2 Million+

Balance

In my balance I have 0.00000003 PND that’s it LOL

Account does not Exist

Yes I received this error message & as a precaution & evidence I have  screenshots to assist me in any proof I need of this.
Screenshot one showing the reset password page, screenshot 2 showing the account does not exist page/message
(if anyone can tell me how to add pictures to this thread I will be happy to display them for you all)

Email from support

Yes see below
Hi there,
I apologize for the delayed reply. Your issue has been passed to the migration team for investigation, and will be dealt with as a matter of urgency.
Thanks for your patience.


Update so far.

Nothing in my account still & no message at all from support
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October 17, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
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my  30k + fair coin on mintpal are missing , and i forget how many other coins are there,... total coin value was 0.6btc before they went for v2..
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October 17, 2014, 10:41:57 AM
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Missing Coins

BTC 0.7+
LTC 15+
DRK 28+
PND 2.5 million+
Karma 2 Million+

Balance

In my balance I have 0.00000003 PND that’s it LOL

Account does not Exist

Yes I received this error message & as a precaution & evidence I have  screenshots to assist me in any proof I need of this.
Screenshot one showing the reset password page, screenshot 2 showing the account does not exist page/message
(if anyone can tell me how to add pictures to this thread I will be happy to display them for you all)

Email from support

Yes see below
Hi there,
I apologize for the delayed reply. Your issue has been passed to the migration team for investigation, and will be dealt with as a matter of urgency.
Thanks for your patience.


Update so far.

Nothing in my account still & no message at all from support


thanks. to upload images just use http://imgur.com/ and paste the bbcode it gives you
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October 17, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
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According to Vern they've been having hardware problems for over 12 hours.  

weird that the 2 largest dark exchanges go down one after the other.  sure it's fine on this one lol

If I owned one of the other exchanges I'd be going in for the kill and doing all I can to catch the orphaned volume! Smiley

+1, I would be on a marketing Jihad as well, advertising some form of redundancy and backup for all customer funds...

I've just got in contact with an Exchange based close to where I live in London.  They are low volume but not compromising on quality and security...building things slowly and legally imho.  They are a real company with real staff (transparent identities), real offices etc etc.  I'm not saying I know that they are safe but I've just asked them...why not go for the kill now?  Why not offer zero trading fees for a while?  Bonuses for volume?  I'd be moving heaven and earth if I were them right now.

Your rivals are down...keep twatting them with a stick until you know they're dead!

On a more savoury note...the sooner we can get away from centralised exchange the better.  Its going to take a far bigger brain than mine to make that happen though.  I can help swing a stick though...

agree. what's the exchange in London? decentralized is the future, too many people with hands in the cookie jar..
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October 17, 2014, 10:50:58 AM
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+1, I would be on a marketing Jihad as well, advertising some form of redundancy and backup for all customer funds...

The key for real customer fund safety on exchanges is when exchanges don't take customer funds at all. Exchanges should be places where customers can connect through their wallets when they intend to trade. The trade is made on the exchanges and the coins are sent directly from customer wallet to customer wallet and a fee is taken from the exchange. This way exchanges have no power over customer funds at all; it's only the place where the trade is made.

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October 17, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
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Whoaa.

This is really big.
My luck that I didnt have any coin there or this would be bad.
I hope that all of you who lost coin in this mater will have at least half of it back.

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