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Author Topic: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins  (Read 226851 times)
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November 03, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
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I am still missing 8 million Aricoin (ARI) and half a bitcoin (BTC).
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November 03, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
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i am missing 16,4..K LXC. wasn´t able to withdrawal from mintpal so far.
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November 03, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
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Whilst Ryan might have kept logins / data to himself, its not true to say others had no access - Landon is COO and a shareholder so he does have 'access' at the highest level - as Ryan conducted his theft, Landon has a corporate and legal responsibility to make sure the company business is being conducted legally and responsibly and customers are not being defrauded on a massive scale as they have been here, and at least report crimes when they are being committed which obviously they are (or did 5000 BTC not go missing...).

You can't be head of Moolah US and shareholder of Moolah UK and be Ryan's right hand man and say you have 'no involvement' in the companies latest venture (Mintpal V2) it doesn't wash and no court will buy this, Landon's an idiot for thinking he can get away with it buy saying this, any US/UK court will eat him alive if he stands up and says that.

Hey I've seen you were trying to find the coins etc.

I can't really say much on what has happened in the past as I don't know everything if I'm honest. I do know that Landon has not, beyond simple wages, profited by any of the activities though. That would effectively be no different to any other employee there.

FWIW, Mintpal did not have anything to do with Moolah beyond the technical management of it. Mintpal itself was purchased privately by several investors and Ryan (although I am uncertain whether he actually contributed to it all). It was agreed that Ryan would manage it himself and the support staff of moolah would respond to the emails. This was a deal done within the UK and to my knowledge Landon saw not even as much as a piece of paperwork for the Mintpal acquisition.

Of course one could argue he was not diligent enough, but unless someone has been in a situation with a very overpowering boss, they probably wouldn't know what it is like. He had a very powerful personality and with the false promises he made (which were thought real at the time) it could be very easy to follow him. I can imagine this is roughly how it went for Chelsea, as I would hope she wasn't involved. At least that's what I keep telling myself in my head.
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November 03, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
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http://youtu.be/gjUsn2rH_xE?t=1h20s

Famous last words

"You wanna fuck up your life by doing something stupid by all means, go ahead, because at the end of the day it doesn't mean anything to me, our company is going very well"

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November 03, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
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luckily i had no btc in mintpal, i would of otherwise caught a plane to wherever he's at and would of taken matters into my own hands.

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November 03, 2014, 06:16:49 PM
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I'm just reporting my stats for since I just found this thread.

Missing 2.00000099  BTC

thankfully my DOGE & PND were successfully transferred.

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November 03, 2014, 07:55:27 PM
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Missing 1 btc
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November 03, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
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missing 1.54BTC, i could take out other alts at time
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November 03, 2014, 08:11:08 PM
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November 03, 2014, 08:50:32 PM
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Whilst Ryan might have kept logins / data to himself, its not true to say others had no access - Landon is COO and a shareholder so he does have 'access' at the highest level - as Ryan conducted his theft, Landon has a corporate and legal responsibility to make sure the company business is being conducted legally and responsibly and customers are not being defrauded on a massive scale as they have been here, and at least report crimes when they are being committed which obviously they are (or did 5000 BTC not go missing...).

You can't be head of Moolah US and shareholder of Moolah UK and be Ryan's right hand man and say you have 'no involvement' in the companies latest venture (Mintpal V2) it doesn't wash and no court will buy this, Landon's an idiot for thinking he can get away with it buy saying this, any US/UK court will eat him alive if he stands up and says that.

Hey I've seen you were trying to find the coins etc.

I can't really say much on what has happened in the past as I don't know everything if I'm honest. I do know that Landon has not, beyond simple wages, profited by any of the activities though. That would effectively be no different to any other employee there.

FWIW, Mintpal did not have anything to do with Moolah beyond the technical management of it. Mintpal itself was purchased privately by several investors and Ryan (although I am uncertain whether he actually contributed to it all). It was agreed that Ryan would manage it himself and the support staff of moolah would respond to the emails. This was a deal done within the UK and to my knowledge Landon saw not even as much as a piece of paperwork for the Mintpal acquisition.

Of course one could argue he was not diligent enough, but unless someone has been in a situation with a very overpowering boss, they probably wouldn't know what it is like. He had a very powerful personality and with the false promises he made (which were thought real at the time) it could be very easy to follow him. I can imagine this is roughly how it went for Chelsea, as I would hope she wasn't involved. At least that's what I keep telling myself in my head.


"Of course one could argue he was not diligent enough, but unless someone has been in a situation with a very overpowering boss, they probably wouldn't know what it is like."

Umm. I am sorry. But an overpowering boss doesn't simply force one as an employee, in the crypto ecosystem, to open accounts and a business for an anonymous person. Get real. Anybody and EVERYBODY knows that. In the real world, and in Bitcoin, where EVERYONE knows scams are everywhere. You don't PUT someones business and accounts in your name without knowing your partner. At what time would that not raise flags. Who would do that. Nobody.  I wouldn't even open accounts for a buisness in my nameas an employee if there WAS a face on the company. It just makes 0 sense. 0. Why should any employee have someone elses business accounts,and business,registered in their name.  I can't even imagine one scenario, let alone one, where you DONT KNOW THE PERSON.  Even people not involved with Bitcoin, know that Bitcoin is cluttered with scams.  Also, from the chat logs released from Boffin, he candidly jokes as he knows the anonymity is shady. He was aware of the situation, and to say that he was not in control of his actions is a little bit of a stretch.



"I can imagine this is roughly how it went for Chelsea, as I would hope she wasn't involved."

It must be tough, yes.  It must also be tough to not report a person you have a connection with.  But I do believe there is liability for people who accompany a criminal while they knowingly commit unlawful acts. I would sure hope she hasn't any records ofprofits from this whole situation.... However,  It seems as though she is in the room interacting with Alex, or Ryan, as he is on webcam in the video with Jackson and Ben in this clip below. That would of course have to be proved to be her voice i wouldimagine it's her since they are discussing her at the time, but it would be quite tough to prove that she was present during this clip and all of the activities, while knowing absolutely nothing.  
http://youtu.be/gjUsn2rH_xE?t=7m31s


But after all I am no lawyer.
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November 03, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
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Latest bullshit from the scammer:
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2l5q6o/syscoin_leading_the_charge_against_moolahmoopay_a/clrx1iq

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November 03, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
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I hope the old mintpal team succeeds and it can turn into another story like Cryptorush.  Granted they don't have much volume yet and they still need work on the design, but seeing this makes me happy to start trading there again.

It's long, but worth it in my opinion if you haven't heard their story.  He outs the scammers/hackers/scumbags that were involved as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K9xK5t9ckc
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November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
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still missing 1.8BTC
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November 04, 2014, 12:06:59 AM
Last edit: November 05, 2014, 07:58:23 PM by maxmag
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missing funds 613.13153796 DRK  the funds has been successfully refunded. Cheesy
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November 04, 2014, 12:21:55 AM
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Missing .22BTC
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November 04, 2014, 12:30:30 AM
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Some people need a slap, in the face, with chair!!! -_-
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November 04, 2014, 12:43:56 AM
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/syscoin-releases-legal-documents-moolah-ryan-kennedy/

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two of the documents are from Kennedy or his lawyers and explain his defense. In the following witness statement, Kennedy claims he discovered a bug in the MintPal code that allowed “unscrupulous users” to withdraw more coins than they owned, which drained the reserve accounts. Moreover, he claims he never personally had possession of Syscoin’s bitcoins.

A judge has now ordered Kennedy to hand over the server hard drives so forensic investigators can determine whether or not the alleged bug exists. CCN will continue to provide updates as the story develops.

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November 04, 2014, 01:32:46 AM
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Stoning by physical bitcoin
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November 04, 2014, 02:53:45 AM
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/syscoin-releases-legal-documents-moolah-ryan-kennedy/

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two of the documents are from Kennedy or his lawyers and explain his defense. In the following witness statement, Kennedy claims he discovered a bug in the MintPal code that allowed “unscrupulous users” to withdraw more coins than they owned, which drained the reserve accounts. Moreover, he claims he never personally had possession of Syscoin’s bitcoins.

A judge has now ordered Kennedy to hand over the server hard drives so forensic investigators can determine whether or not the alleged bug exists. CCN will continue to provide updates as the story develops.

Sorry forensic investigators, I forgot to mention the bashbleed shellshock SSL bug allowed the hackerz to overwrite the server hard drive with 0's at the end of the day. Now you have no evidences, so at the end of the day, I am 100% innocent, bitches. I will proceed to sue Ferdous, everyone on r/dogecoin, every Bitcoin news source, every poster on this bitcointlak thread, every lawyer at Selachi LLP, and the judges who took Syscoin's court case for defamation. -- slex aka Ryan Gentle
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November 04, 2014, 03:54:27 AM
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yes Landon is full of shit too
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