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November 01, 2014, 06:57:02 PM
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2.01944825 BTC missing, unable to withdraw, status 'Requested' for weeks now.
Has anyone (individually) started any legal actions yet? I want to write a letter of default and take this up with my legal aid...

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November 01, 2014, 07:17:37 PM
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Did Ryan also have any access to identity dox uploaded to the Mintpal server?

I know he has had access to mine from another scam incident, and this is more worrying to me than potential economic losses now that we've seen evidence that Alex Green may have been a stolen identity.
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November 01, 2014, 08:27:34 PM
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the address for donations for legal fees is: 1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C
source: https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/527920003019177986

Why we should pay for legal fees?
To who?
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November 02, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
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Losses Cry
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November 02, 2014, 04:38:04 AM
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Damn scammer.

My coins pending withdrawal for about a month.

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November 02, 2014, 08:59:27 AM
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the address for donations for legal fees is: 1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C
source: https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/527920003019177986

Why we should pay for legal fees?
To who?

To Ferdous Bhai, the Mintpal owner, to take legal action against Moolah CEO Ryan Gentle, to try to get control back & return people's BTC.

There is no plausible deniability here like in the GOX case, with Mintpal legal action, I think best chance BTC can be returned.  Which is also best chance to put Ryan in prison, or he can hide in a cave in Cambodia for the next 40 years.

Help by donating or call UK cybercrime police and report him, the more people that do this the less chance he has of getting away with it: 0044-300-123-2040 or submit online  http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud-including-online-crime-questions

Article: http://www.coindesk.com/mintpal-fight-moolah-ceo-court/

Ferdous Twitter: https://twitter.com/ferdousbhai/

Ferdous - What happened to Mintpal: http://pastebin.com/vKpnWQcp

11 BTC raised so far: https://blockchain.info/address/1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C
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November 02, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
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Did Ryan also have any access to identity dox uploaded to the Mintpal server?

I know he has had access to mine from another scam incident, and this is more worrying to me than potential economic losses now that we've seen evidence that Alex Green may have been a stolen identity.

point well made

sadly the answer is yes, as CEO he has full access to all of the company's resources, unless of course a board restricted it.


I really don't know why people get verified  in an industry that prides itself on anonymity.  

You know he took all that shit and has endless copies of it.  Have to assume the worst about a person who steals from charities.  I wonder which identity he assumed for Halloween.  
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November 02, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
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Is legal action not going to start until we raise $25k?
It does not look like we are getting there. Not many people are willing to donate, even damn 0.01btc.
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November 02, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
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all my funds are stuck on mintpal otherwise i would donate some

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November 02, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
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Mintpal owners are setting up a website soon to publicize the legal action to regain control: https://twitter.com/BlockaFett/status/528944838293868545

I think they are the best placed to take action for Mintpal's out-of-pocket customers so best chance to recoup BTC, so lets show some support...

Ferdous' donation address for the legal action: 1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C (https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/527920003019177986)
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November 02, 2014, 04:41:31 PM
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Is legal action not going to start until we raise $25k?
It does not look like we are getting there. Not many people are willing to donate, even damn 0.01btc.

Even if everyone just donated 1% of the BTC they had on Mintpal, its worth it.

I donated, if you have BTC there, helping Mintpal to regain control is the best shot to get them back.


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November 02, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
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Mintpal owners are setting up a website soon to publicize the legal action to regain control: https://twitter.com/BlockaFett/status/528944838293868545

I think they are the best placed to take action for Mintpal's out-of-pocket customers so best chance to recoup BTC, so lets show some support...

Ferdous' donation address for the legal action: 1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C (https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/527920003019177986)


I encourage positive action.  But as of now, from my standing point, they (Minptal) keep our coins in hostage.  They have no right at all to keep those coins.  They put our coins in scammer's hands, and now they ask 25 000$, not that a surprise people are not in a hurry to donate.  V1 wallet have to be given back to coin's team.  I trust coin's team much more then those amateurs who messed with a serial scammer.

At least, it would not be that difficult to communicate with EACH team.  What's the problem ?  They don't even answers any question, and they want us to donate 25k ?  What a joke.  I keep thinking legal action must be taken on them too.  THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO KEEP OUR WALLET IN HOSTAGE. 

I wish they are legit and wanting to do good, but it's over, I give my confidence to persons who deserve it.
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November 02, 2014, 05:41:26 PM
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Mintpal owners are setting up a website soon to publicize the legal action to regain control: https://twitter.com/BlockaFett/status/528944838293868545

I think they are the best placed to take action for Mintpal's out-of-pocket customers so best chance to recoup BTC, so lets show some support...

Ferdous' donation address for the legal action: 1Dbn1PZtCn2ZeJgGm54f2var2rQyEhqT2C (https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/527920003019177986)


I encourage positive action.  But as of now, from my standing point, they (Minptal) keep our coins in hostage.  They have no right at all to keep those coins.  They put our coins in scammer's hands, and now they ask 25 000$, not that a surprise people are not in a hurry to donate.  V1 wallet have to be given back to coin's team.  I trust coin's team much more then those amateurs who messed with a serial scammer.

At least, it would not be that difficult to communicate with EACH team.  What's the problem ?  They don't even answers any question, and they want us to donate 25k ?  What a joke.  I keep thinking legal action must be taken on them too.  THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO KEEP OUR WALLET IN HOSTAGE. 

I wish they are legit and wanting to do good, but it's over, I give my confidence to persons who deserve it.

Confused - so Mintpal are in possession of the wallets?  Is that alts or BTC? have you got a source?
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November 02, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
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Ferdous controls FLT, KARMA, MIN, XCR, XMR, FAIR, SUPER, and TES wallets (v1 wallets). Ryan controls all other wallets and mintpal.com v2, including withdrawal requests. Ferdous is trying to gain control over the other wallets and mintpal.com v2. However, Ryan will not give up control over anything else, so Ferdous is taking legal action against him.

I agree that Ferdous should get the database snapshot from Ryan to process the withdrawals. If he's not making an effort to do this, he is holding the v1 wallets in hostage.
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November 02, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
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I've traced Moolah's dogecoin prelude wallet (customer funds) since April 30th.  

Preliminary results are posted here, along w/a spreadsheet of every transaction since April 30th:  https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/02/trail-of-doges/.  

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Just to make it a little easier, I'll put a link to the spreadsheet here: https://network23.org/dogecoin/wp-content/blogs.dir/589/files/2014/11/Prelude-Transaction-History.pdf
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November 02, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
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Ferdous controls FLT, KARMA, MIN, XCR, XMR, FAIR, SUPER, and TES wallets (v1 wallets). Ryan controls all other wallets and mintpal.com v2, including withdrawal requests. Ferdous is trying to gain control over the other wallets and mintpal.com v2. However, Ryan will not give up control over anything else, so Ferdous is taking legal action against him.

I agree that Ferdous should get the database snapshot from Ryan to process the withdrawals. If he's not making an effort to do this, he is holding the v1 wallets in hostage.

Thanks for the info.

But I guess activity has happened on the Ferdous controlled coins since V1 so he needs the V2 db to know who still has what or what is he supposed to do.

...and the legal action is required to get the other alts from Green's greasy paws and the BTC too.

Where's this info coming from? think I am out of date Smiley
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November 02, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
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I've traced Moolah's dogecoin prelude wallet (customer funds) since April 30th.  Preliminary results are posted here, along w/a spreadsheet of every transaction since April 30th:  https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/02/trail-of-doges/.  

great, just going through it. maybe a summary at the start would be helpful with the key findings (i mean an easy to understand one)
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November 02, 2014, 07:27:05 PM
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I've traced Moolah's dogecoin prelude wallet (customer funds) since April 30th.  Preliminary results are posted here, along w/a spreadsheet of every transaction since April 30th:  https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/02/trail-of-doges/.  

great, just going through it. maybe a summary at the start would be helpful with the key findings (i mean an easy to understand one)

Good suggestion.  I'll be tinkering w/ the post here and there, will try and incorporate this suggestion.
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November 02, 2014, 07:29:46 PM
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Heads up friends. TheBoffin was the person who facilitated Alex Greens operations.  The American business was under Landons name, the accounts as well, YET I have not heard a thing about his involvement. Without him, this whole operation cannot function. It is 100% known through chat logs that TheBoffin was willing to take responsibility for a company, while just an employee, and knowing that Alex Green had no face, wanted to remain anonymous, and ADMITTED he thought it was sketchy, but still took his paycheque and enables thousands to lose their money. So I guess, before he enables more fundsmissing, he is starting a new business

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This is a side project that myself and some of the previous Moolah staff have started. We are trying to move on the best we can all things considered Smiley
http://cryptogold.me/. I would recomend using your brain before supporting these people. I don't feel all themoolah employees should be accountable for Alex Greens actions, but Boffin was a willing participant in something he was even fishy about. He took $$ over matter and offered to be the face ofa financial service that even he thought could be a scam.. Use these services with extreme caution.
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November 02, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
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I've traced Moolah's dogecoin prelude wallet (customer funds) since April 30th.  Preliminary results are posted here, along w/a spreadsheet of every transaction since April 30th:  https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/02/trail-of-doges/.  

great, just going through it. maybe a summary at the start would be helpful with the key findings (i mean an easy to understand one)

Good suggestion.  I'll be tinkering w/ the post here and there, will try and incorporate this suggestion.

yeh, key thing is: how much was scammed, who he scammed it off, and how.  maybe some background too like I never heard of Prelude and what the core of that scam was.

You are obviously very talented at blockchain tracking and analytics, 'following the money'.  Would be good to get you on tracking Green's BTC heist, not sure if it's of interest to you tho.  There is Ferdous Bhai on Twitter from Mintpal who would know all the wallet addresses if you need any.
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