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July 12, 2012, 05:40:00 AM
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OP has been updated... see if you can spot the difference Cheesy

I have to admit, it took me longer that it should to figure it out.

okay i guess i should probably point it out to everyone else for the sake of security Cheesy

SSL has been installed and the link is now https://bitcoinmax.com

what i saw was you dropped the minimum deposit to 5btc, i guess i didnt look hard enough

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July 12, 2012, 05:44:16 AM
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OP has been updated... see if you can spot the difference Cheesy

I have to admit, it took me longer that it should to figure it out.

okay i guess i should probably point it out to everyone else for the sake of security Cheesy

SSL has been installed and the link is now https://bitcoinmax.com

what i saw was you dropped the minimum deposit to 5btc, i guess i didnt look hard enough

oh that's old news... like at least 3 days ago Cheesy
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July 12, 2012, 05:53:00 AM
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OP has been updated... see if you can spot the difference Cheesy

I have to admit, it took me longer that it should to figure it out.

okay i guess i should probably point it out to everyone else for the sake of security Cheesy

SSL has been installed and the link is now https://bitcoinmax.com

what i saw was you dropped the minimum deposit to 5btc, i guess i didnt look hard enough

oh that's old news... like at least 3 days ago Cheesy


ok, the SSL is definitely better news!
i would also like to thank you for making my experience with bitcoinmax.com easy and trouble free! i might be moving more btc here very soon... (murdaversa thinks about giving up on traditional banks..  Grin)

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July 12, 2012, 03:18:06 PM
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okay i guess i should probably point it out to everyone else for the sake of security Cheesy

SSL has been installed and the link is now https://bitcoinmax.com

Issue I think should be resolved.

HTTP also works.   This should be a forced redirect to HTTPS.

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July 12, 2012, 05:49:09 PM
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okay i guess i should probably point it out to everyone else for the sake of security Cheesy

SSL has been installed and the link is now https://bitcoinmax.com

Issue I think should be resolved.

HTTP also works.   This should be a forced redirect to HTTPS.

This.

And thanks for implementing this - for the sake of what it costs it was well worth it.

Having read through a lot of it, I recommend you take almost all of what you read on this forum in jest.
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July 13, 2012, 08:38:24 AM
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Hey payb.tc,

Ever thought coding up a new section allowing users to create Pass Through's from BitcoinMax. It will be a double pass through lol. I might help you out with all the processing time it takes to manage accounts? Or is this not possible?

If it isn't an issue then thats cool.

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July 13, 2012, 09:17:21 AM
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Hey payb.tc,

Ever thought coding up a new section allowing users to create Pass Through's from BitcoinMax. It will be a double pass through lol. I might help you out with all the processing time it takes to manage accounts? Or is this not possible?

If it isn't an issue then thats cool.
He still hasn't setup the automation for new accounts, let alone automatic withdraws. So, I think even if this where "wanted to be done," he'd still need to code everything else in place to make sure it stays secure.

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July 13, 2012, 09:27:46 AM
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Hey payb.tc,

Ever thought coding up a new section allowing users to create Pass Through's from BitcoinMax. It will be a double pass through lol. I might help you out with all the processing time it takes to manage accounts? Or is this not possible?

If it isn't an issue then thats cool.
He still hasn't setup the automation for new accounts, let alone automatic withdraws. So, I think even if this where "wanted to be done," he'd still need to code everything else in place to make sure it stays secure.

sorry not a priority, dice. (i'm not even sure what benefit it would bring - you mean for those people who can't afford 5 btc ? ).

if i thought managing many accounts was a real problem, i wouldn't have dropped the minimum from 10 to 5 btc.
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July 13, 2012, 05:05:23 PM
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imho, with the addition of SSL, it's perfect as it stands.. I hope his security is better than bitcoinica.. Smiley

My only "wishlist" would be a form of some sort to request a withdrawl, save the email. Smiley


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July 13, 2012, 05:20:36 PM
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imho, with the addition of SSL, it's perfect as it stands.. I hope his security is better than bitcoinica.. Smiley

My only "wishlist" would be a form of some sort to request a withdrawl, save the email. Smiley

I actually am perfectly happy with having to PM for a withdrawal.  This means that a hacker would have to compromise BOTH my bitcoinmax account AND my forum account to steal funds.

Just my 2 cents.

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July 13, 2012, 05:41:04 PM
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I actually am perfectly happy with having to PM for a withdrawal.  This means that a hacker would have to compromise BOTH my bitcoinmax account AND my forum account to steal funds.

I don't know how withdrawals work, but wouldn't the attacker be able to get your funds without access to your bitcoinmax account?

First PM saying "please change my withdrawal address", then PM again a few days later saying "please send 100 BTC".

They'd have to guess how much you had in your account I guess, and going over might tip payb.tc off that something fishy was going on.

Is there something in place to prevent this attack?

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July 13, 2012, 05:45:06 PM
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First PM saying "please change my withdrawal address", then PM again a few days later saying "please send 100 BTC".

They'd have to guess how much you had in your account I guess, and going over might tip payb.tc off that something fishy was going on.

That is unless they just asked to withdraw 'all'
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July 13, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
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Someone else that I lent to recently I asked them to never change my withdrawal address without first checking with me via either email or Skype, I must get around to setting this up with Bitcoin Max too, I don't save a copy of the PM with my contact info on it either.

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July 13, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
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I'm not going to withdraw anytime soon

Either I end up with all coins or pirate defaults: game over!

The way it has to  be  Grin
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July 13, 2012, 06:38:25 PM
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I actually am perfectly happy with having to PM for a withdrawal.  This means that a hacker would have to compromise BOTH my bitcoinmax account AND my forum account to steal funds.

I don't know how withdrawals work, but wouldn't the attacker be able to get your funds without access to your bitcoinmax account?

First PM saying "please change my withdrawal address", then PM again a few days later saying "please send 100 BTC".

They'd have to guess how much you had in your account I guess, and going over might tip payb.tc off that something fishy was going on.

Is there something in place to prevent this attack?

This is a very good point.

Personally I would prefer that *any* withdrawal requests would be GPG signed; however it isn't reasonable to assume that payb.tc accomodate the 14,001 different ways people want this handled.

Putting myself in his shoes I am not sure how I would want to handle that where it would provide good security vs easy management.  Remember guys he is only getting %0.1 which is not alot.

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July 13, 2012, 06:43:14 PM
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I actually am perfectly happy with having to PM for a withdrawal.  This means that a hacker would have to compromise BOTH my bitcoinmax account AND my forum account to steal funds.

I don't know how withdrawals work, but wouldn't the attacker be able to get your funds without access to your bitcoinmax account?

First PM saying "please change my withdrawal address", then PM again a few days later saying "please send 100 BTC".

They'd have to guess how much you had in your account I guess, and going over might tip payb.tc off that something fishy was going on.

Is there something in place to prevent this attack?

This is a very good point.

Personally I would prefer that *any* withdrawal requests would be GPG signed; however it isn't reasonable to assume that payb.tc accomodate the 14,001 different ways people want this handled.

Putting myself in his shoes I am not sure how I would want to handle that where it would provide good security vs easy management.  Remember guys he is only getting %0.1 which is not alot.
Very true, in some ways I wish he would take a little extra - this would provide more incentive to give time to the project and less incentive to run away!

(This is not to say I doubt his commitment or integrity)

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July 13, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
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I actually am perfectly happy with having to PM for a withdrawal.  This means that a hacker would have to compromise BOTH my bitcoinmax account AND my forum account to steal funds.

I don't know how withdrawals work, but wouldn't the attacker be able to get your funds without access to your bitcoinmax account?

First PM saying "please change my withdrawal address", then PM again a few days later saying "please send 100 BTC".

They'd have to guess how much you had in your account I guess, and going over might tip payb.tc off that something fishy was going on.

Is there something in place to prevent this attack?

This is a very good point.

Personally I would prefer that *any* withdrawal requests would be GPG signed; however it isn't reasonable to assume that payb.tc accomodate the 14,001 different ways people want this handled.

Putting myself in his shoes I am not sure how I would want to handle that where it would provide good security vs easy management.  Remember guys he is only getting %0.1 which is not alot.
Very true, in some ways I wish he would take a little extra - this would provide more incentive to give time to the project and less incentive to run away!

(This is not to say I doubt his commitment or integrity)

I don't think that giving him a bigger cut is any incentive to not run away.

But this does pose an interesting question:  If payb.tc were to offer it; how much per week would you be willing to pay for 'extra services' and what would those services be?

My extra services would be:
 - Google Authenticator login (although not a big deal until withdrawal requests come to the web)
 - GPG Signed Confirmations for account changes/withdrawals.

However I am not sure how to answer my own question of 'how much' I would be willing to pay (vs gambling that I won't get compromised). 

This is all assuming that payb.tc isn't just Intersango and going to 'get hacked' anyway Tongue

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July 13, 2012, 06:51:26 PM
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I really hope withdrawal requests never come online/become automated.

I'm happy to wait a day or two.

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July 13, 2012, 07:14:00 PM
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I really hope withdrawal requests never come online/become automated.

I'm happy to wait a day or two.

This isn't about automatic withdrawals.  It's about me getting into your bitcointalk account and sending a PM to payb.tc that says "please change my withdrawal address to 1dooglus123456 and send me all Scott's monies please herp derp".

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July 13, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
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I really hope withdrawal requests never come online/become automated.

I'm happy to wait a day or two.
Agree with this and to clarify my statement: withdrawal requests on the web.

Obviously I prefer my funds be handled by hand.  However I think this will be a requirement anyway given the BST backing.

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