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August 06, 2012, 05:28:14 AM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000
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August 06, 2012, 05:36:04 AM
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is very simple, if pirate is smarter to think of something before everyone else, he would be smart enough to cover up as much as he requires....just a thought.

Also for all the people who talk about pirate being a ponzi, just remember that, we as individuals are limited by our own intelligence. It allows us only to 'digest' whatever is within our own limited capacity to understand.....we only have the ability to think within our mind, if someone else is smarter, they just are....like pirate is....

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August 06, 2012, 05:52:47 AM
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Here's how the recent interest payments correspond to entries in the blockchain.  There's a really close correspondence between the calculated interest and the actual interest.  The difference is explained by the fact that BS&T calculates interest from the minute payment is received, but all I see are block timestamps which will be close to but different from the time the transactions were made.

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Week Ending Mon Jul 23 06:00                          Total: 8470.32 (actual interest paid: 8471.00)

Date              Type       Amount x  Hours / 168 *  Rate = Subtotal
Sun Jul 22 15:51  Withdrawal  -1500 x  14.14 / 168 * 0.077 =   -9.72  
Fri Jul 20 23:48  Withdrawal  -1500 x  54.19 / 168 * 0.077 =  -37.25
Fri Jul 20 12:52  Deposit       273 x  65.13 / 168 * 0.077 =    8.14
Fri Jul 20 09:29  Deposit       304 x  68.51 / 168 * 0.077 =    9.54
Thu Jul 19 23:05  Deposit       606 x  78.90 / 168 * 0.077 =   21.91
Thu Jul 19 12:17  Deposit      1578 x  89.71 / 168 * 0.077 =   64.88
Thu Jul 19 04:44  Deposit       241 x  97.26 / 168 * 0.077 =   10.74
Thu Jul 19 00:47  Deposit       339 x 101.21 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.72
Wed Jul 18 12:56  Deposit       750 x 113.06 / 168 * 0.077 =   38.86
Wed Jul 18 11:33  Deposit       295 x 114.45 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.47
Wed Jul 18 00:38  Deposit       356 x 125.35 / 168 * 0.077 =   20.45
Wed Jul 18 00:23  Deposit       538 x 125.61 / 168 * 0.077 =   30.97
Tue Jul 17 06:40  Withdrawal  -1000 x 143.33 / 168 * 0.077 =  -65.69
Tue Jul 17 00:53  Deposit       649 x 149.11 / 168 * 0.077 =   44.35
Mon Jul 16 15:12  Starting   107817 x 168.00 / 168 * 0.077 = 8301.90

Week Ending Mon Jul 16 06:00                          Total: 7823.64 (actual interest paid: 7820.59)

Date              Type       Amount x  Hours / 168 *  Rate = Subtotal
Sun Jul 15 21:47  Deposit      412  x   8.21 / 168 * 0.077 =    1.55
Sun Jul 15 16:41  Deposit      236  x  13.30 / 168 * 0.077 =    1.43
Sun Jul 15 06:42  Deposit      235  x  23.29 / 168 * 0.077 =    2.50
Sat Jul 14 23:09  Deposit     1046  x  30.84 / 168 * 0.077 =   14.78
Sat Jul 14 09:26  Deposit      271  x  44.56 / 168 * 0.077 =    5.53
Fri Jul 13 15:31  Deposit     1586  x  62.48 / 168 * 0.077 =   45.41
Fri Jul 13 04:53  Deposit      339  x  73.11 / 168 * 0.077 =   11.35
Fri Jul 13 01:08  Deposit      249  x  76.86 / 168 * 0.077 =    8.77
Thu Jul 12 21:58  Deposit      390  x  80.03 / 168 * 0.077 =   14.30
Thu Jul 12 11:42  Deposit      461  x  90.29 / 168 * 0.077 =   19.07
Thu Jul 12 10:07  Deposit      552  x  91.88 / 168 * 0.077 =   23.24
Thu Jul 12 06:26  Deposit      563  x  95.56 / 168 * 0.077 =   24.65
Thu Jul 12 05:34  Deposit      370  x  96.43 / 168 * 0.077 =   16.35
Thu Jul 12 02:24  Deposit      294  x  99.59 / 168 * 0.077 =   13.42
Wed Jul 11 23:05  Deposit      383  x 102.90 / 168 * 0.077 =   18.06
Wed Jul 11 20:41  Deposit      809  x 105.32 / 168 * 0.077 =   39.05
Wed Jul 11 07:23  Deposit      544  x 118.61 / 168 * 0.077 =   29.57
Wed Jul 11 04:52  Deposit      605  x 121.12 / 168 * 0.077 =   33.58
Wed Jul 11 01:41  Deposit      211  x 124.31 / 168 * 0.077 =   12.02
Wed Jul 11 00:38  Deposit      433  x 125.35 / 168 * 0.077 =   24.87
Wed Jul 11 00:31  Deposit      543  x 125.48 / 168 * 0.077 =   31.22
Tue Jul 10 22:20  Deposit     1980  x 127.65 / 168 * 0.077 =  115.84
Tue Jul 10 12:36  Deposit      325  x 137.39 / 168 * 0.077 =   20.46
Tue Jul 10 11:11  Deposit      260  x 138.81 / 168 * 0.077 =   16.54
Tue Jul 10 08:52  Deposit      175  x 141.13 / 168 * 0.077 =   11.32
Mon Jul 09 23:05  Deposit      365  x 150.91 / 168 * 0.077 =   25.24
Mon Jul 09 23:05  Deposit     1080  x 150.91 / 168 * 0.077 =   74.70
Mon Jul 09 14:11  Starting   93100  x 168.00 / 168 * 0.077 = 7168.70

Week Ending Mon Jul 09 06:00                          Total: 6802.19 (actual interest paid: 6794.00)

Date              Type       Amount x  Hours / 168 *  Rate = Subtotal
Sun Jul 08 01:10  Deposit     1800  x  28.83 / 168 * 0.077 =   23.78
Sat Jul 07 05:10  Deposit      415  x  48.82 / 168 * 0.077 =    9.28
Sat Jul 07 04:59  Deposit      730  x  49.01 / 168 * 0.077 =   16.39
Sat Jul 07 02:13  Deposit      150  x  51.77 / 168 * 0.077 =    3.55
Fri Jul 06 18:19  Deposit     1505  x  59.68 / 168 * 0.077 =   41.16
Fri Jul 06 08:32  Deposit      600  x  69.46 / 168 * 0.077 =   19.10
Thu Jul 05 13:52  Deposit      900  x  88.13 / 168 * 0.077 =   36.35
Wed Jul 04 23:06  Deposit     1300  x 102.89 / 168 * 0.077 =   61.30
Tue Jul 03 13:40  Withdrawal -1000  x 136.33 / 168 * 0.077 =  -62.48
Tue Jul 03 02:19  Deposit      500  x 147.67 / 168 * 0.077 =   33.84
Mon Jul 02 15:04  Deposit     4216  x 158.93 / 168 * 0.077 =  307.10
Mon Jul 02 15:09  Starting   81984  x 168.00 / 168 * 0.077 = 6312.76

You can follow the whole chain of deposits and withdrawals through the blockchain all the way back to the start.  Transaction 5493e71f8d06de5fd5c28a53583eca930e7b4ea56fdbb37b4e6a3a3f43182da8 pays 15 BTC interest - that's 3% of the balance of 500 BTC deposited as 200 BTC (a9c40ba6f829e538aa5e97fb9cb3e747a57a120d0e8f02addb92e8af55c2375c) and 300 BTC (93f93535cc34038b2ccd2c142e183ea743dc98522ef6272343f41bcd1ab3ffc1).  Interest was 1% per day, paid every 3 days at the start.

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August 06, 2012, 05:55:48 AM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

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August 06, 2012, 06:01:32 AM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

The interest payment did include a withdrawal once, on Fri Dec 09 2011.  The interest of 78 BTC and the withdrawal of 600 BTC were combined into a single payment of 678 BTC (txid 615b4c794a18871879ea06208d3d28e618307c239b876020ead7bcfc53acf8a4).  Other than that they've been separate.

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August 06, 2012, 06:08:37 AM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

Roll Eyes

Anyway, whatever.  Start a new thread if you want to go through this nonsense.  Again.   You can go feel superior somewhere else.

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August 06, 2012, 06:11:01 AM
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I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

why bother when there are apparently no shortage of 'experts' willing to do that for me? Cheesy

i'm just today discovering all kinds of new and interesting things about bitcoin max.

going back to your original point, i don't think people are saying "payb.tc is poverty-stricken, so i'll donate"... i think they are saying "payb.tc is providing a great service, so i'll donate". it's not like i encourage it... you can't really even find my address anywhere unless you know of the old donate link on payb.tc website.

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August 06, 2012, 07:15:41 AM
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members can now cancel their own withdrawal requests from within the login area, if they change their mind or circumstances change. no need to PM me anymore to cancel a withdrawal request.


I just made use of this, it saved me from a double click Smiley

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August 06, 2012, 08:45:08 AM
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All I care about is the new and shiny coins in my account later today  Grin

I hope Payb.tc makes money off of it ! good for him.... we're both making money !!!
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All I care about is the new and shiny coins in my account later today  Grin

I hope Payb.tc makes money off of it ! good for him.... we're both making money !!!

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on the withdrawal page, members will now be able to see the site-wide withdrawal queue (with usernames other than your own being hidden).

this will help show the lender where they are in the queue, and help them to estimate how long until they get their request filled.
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nice update Smiley
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August 06, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

Here's how the recent interest payments correspond to entries in the blockchain.  There's a really close correspondence between the calculated interest and the actual interest.  The difference is explained by the fact that BS&T calculates interest from the minute payment is received, but all I see are block timestamps which will be close to but different from the time the transactions were made.

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Week Ending Mon Jul 23 06:00                          Total: 8470.32 (actual interest paid: 8471.00)

Date              Type       Amount x  Hours / 168 *  Rate = Subtotal
Sun Jul 22 15:51  Withdrawal  -1500 x  14.14 / 168 * 0.077 =   -9.72  
Fri Jul 20 23:48  Withdrawal  -1500 x  54.19 / 168 * 0.077 =  -37.25
Fri Jul 20 12:52  Deposit       273 x  65.13 / 168 * 0.077 =    8.14
Fri Jul 20 09:29  Deposit       304 x  68.51 / 168 * 0.077 =    9.54
Thu Jul 19 23:05  Deposit       606 x  78.90 / 168 * 0.077 =   21.91
Thu Jul 19 12:17  Deposit      1578 x  89.71 / 168 * 0.077 =   64.88
Thu Jul 19 04:44  Deposit       241 x  97.26 / 168 * 0.077 =   10.74
Thu Jul 19 00:47  Deposit       339 x 101.21 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.72
Wed Jul 18 12:56  Deposit       750 x 113.06 / 168 * 0.077 =   38.86
Wed Jul 18 11:33  Deposit       295 x 114.45 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.47
Wed Jul 18 00:38  Deposit       356 x 125.35 / 168 * 0.077 =   20.45
Wed Jul 18 00:23  Deposit       538 x 125.61 / 168 * 0.077 =   30.97
Tue Jul 17 06:40  Withdrawal  -1000 x 143.33 / 168 * 0.077 =  -65.69
Tue Jul 17 00:53  Deposit       649 x 149.11 / 168 * 0.077 =   44.35
Mon Jul 16 15:12  Starting   107817 x 168.00 / 168 * 0.077 = 8301.90
Do you contest these numbers?

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

why bother when there are apparently no shortage of 'experts' willing to do that for me? Cheesy
When you're holding >$1 million of other people's money I'd like to think you maintain good books  Wink
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August 06, 2012, 03:29:56 PM
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he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

Here's how the recent interest payments correspond to entries in the blockchain.  There's a really close correspondence between the calculated interest and the actual interest.  The difference is explained by the fact that BS&T calculates interest from the minute payment is received, but all I see are block timestamps which will be close to but different from the time the transactions were made.

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Week Ending Mon Jul 23 06:00                          Total: 8470.32 (actual interest paid: 8471.00)

Date              Type       Amount x  Hours / 168 *  Rate = Subtotal
Sun Jul 22 15:51  Withdrawal  -1500 x  14.14 / 168 * 0.077 =   -9.72  
Fri Jul 20 23:48  Withdrawal  -1500 x  54.19 / 168 * 0.077 =  -37.25
Fri Jul 20 12:52  Deposit       273 x  65.13 / 168 * 0.077 =    8.14
Fri Jul 20 09:29  Deposit       304 x  68.51 / 168 * 0.077 =    9.54
Thu Jul 19 23:05  Deposit       606 x  78.90 / 168 * 0.077 =   21.91
Thu Jul 19 12:17  Deposit      1578 x  89.71 / 168 * 0.077 =   64.88
Thu Jul 19 04:44  Deposit       241 x  97.26 / 168 * 0.077 =   10.74
Thu Jul 19 00:47  Deposit       339 x 101.21 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.72
Wed Jul 18 12:56  Deposit       750 x 113.06 / 168 * 0.077 =   38.86
Wed Jul 18 11:33  Deposit       295 x 114.45 / 168 * 0.077 =   15.47
Wed Jul 18 00:38  Deposit       356 x 125.35 / 168 * 0.077 =   20.45
Wed Jul 18 00:23  Deposit       538 x 125.61 / 168 * 0.077 =   30.97
Tue Jul 17 06:40  Withdrawal  -1000 x 143.33 / 168 * 0.077 =  -65.69
Tue Jul 17 00:53  Deposit       649 x 149.11 / 168 * 0.077 =   44.35
Mon Jul 16 15:12  Starting   107817 x 168.00 / 168 * 0.077 = 8301.90
Do you contest these numbers?

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.

why bother when there are apparently no shortage of 'experts' willing to do that for me? Cheesy
When you're holding >$1 million of other people's money I'd like to think you maintain good books  Wink

Technically speaking he is not holding 1 satoshi for other people

It is not called a "Pass Through" for nothing  Wink
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Technically speaking he is not holding 1 satoshi for other people

It is not called a "Pass Through" for nothing  Wink
In the legal sense though, he is  Wink
Still, if I were an investor I'd like to think someone holding so much currency would have a good idea of what their business financials were like  Tongue
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August 06, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
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on the withdrawal page, members will now be able to see the site-wide withdrawal queue (with usernames other than your own being hidden).

this will help show the lender where they are in the queue, and help them to estimate how long until they get their request filled.


Wonderful feature, very informative! thank you!
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August 06, 2012, 09:10:28 PM
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Payment received Smiley

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August 06, 2012, 09:16:25 PM
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hmmm i got intrest in my earnings report but it doesnt show up in my  balance :x

edit : nvm its fixed now ! thanks <3
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hmmm i got intrest in my earnings report but it doesnt show up in my  balance :x

edit : nvm its fixed now ! thanks <3

there's a small delay between when you view things at 21:00 and when the script reaches your account for processing (in looping through all the members). usually takes about 10 minutes because i also force a small delay (a 'sleep' command) within the script between members, so as not to hammer blockchain.info with the api requests.

all are processed now and paid out, and all withdrawals cleared.
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August 06, 2012, 09:32:44 PM
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Withdrawal request filled within hours and interest payment paid. Smiley

I was also one of those saved from double click withdrawal mistake and really appreciate the new implementation.

Thanks for the wonderfully quick service Paybtc!

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