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August 22, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
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Why would you sell it for less than 100% if you believe pirate is going to pay?

cause i could need the coins now.

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August 22, 2012, 03:37:33 PM
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Who can recommend a similar alternative to this service? Preferably long term!?
I really, really love bitcoinmax and want do continue investing in a similar manner.  Cry

You may consider pyramining. Real safe & stable profit.
Liks to register in my facebook signature link.

Mine with your Bitcoins: www.facebook.com/pyramining (always active links)
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August 22, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
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hello,
i do have only a small account (16 + 1) and i am willing to sell it.
but since i also still believe pirate will pay, it won't be cheap. (~ 90%)

let me know if you are interested nevertheless.

Why would you sell it for less than 100% if you believe pirate is going to pay?
Because you think the price might drop.

Either one of the following happens:

1) pirate pays. Then the value of your account will certainly not be less than whatever value it has now. If it is worth more after pirate pays than it is now, you are better off keeping your account instead of trying to selling it now. Let's say you sell it right now for 90% but can sell  it for 100% after 1.5 weeks when pirate has paid, you are going to "make" 10% in 1.5 weeks. I don't know of any better deals right now.

2) pirate defaults. Then your investment is very likely worthless and I can see why you want to sell it now.

cause i could need the coins now.

If you need coins right now, you would also be better off if you buy them somewhere and wait to get paid instead of selling your account for less than it is worth.
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August 22, 2012, 05:34:16 PM
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@payb.tc, I don't know if you do, but you should be charging some fee for helping them to trade the accounts.
you are providing a service, so take at least 0.5% of the accounts value.
it's basically like escrow - and they charge ~1%
you've earned it honestly and you business has always been fully transparent, without any tricks.
don't be a sucker Smiley

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August 22, 2012, 05:36:53 PM
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@payb.tc, I don't know if you do, but you should be charging some fee for helping them to trade the accounts.
you are providing a service, so take at least 0.5% of the accounts value.
it's basically like escrow - and they charge ~1%
you've earned it honestly and you business has always been fully transparent, without any tricks.
don't be a sucker Smiley
+1 You are making it easy for people.

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August 22, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
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Not sure if it's True/False - people asking for verification, but....

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<BitMinerN8> So you might want to check your BTCS&T Accounts. I did this morning, no change, 5 min ago, showed a full balance withdrawal. Checked my wallet, payment inbound. So Pirate is paying out!!

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[10:48:50] <ineededausername> I confirm that the inputs are owned by pirate
[10:49:02] <ineededausername> but I don't know whether BitMinerN8 is telling the truth

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[10:54:05] <@pirateat40> Just cleaning out the smaller accounts to make things easier.



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August 22, 2012, 05:58:47 PM
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If it's true , buying accounts on bitcoinmax will be a real bargain ....
only for a few more days or so.. Smiley
but still: he provides a service and he should get a money for it.

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August 22, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
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Not sure if it's True/False - people asking for verification, but....

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<BitMinerN8> So you might want to check your BTCS&T Accounts. I did this morning, no change, 5 min ago, showed a full balance withdrawal. Checked my wallet, payment inbound. So Pirate is paying out!!

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[10:48:50] <ineededausername> I confirm that the inputs are owned by pirate
[10:49:02] <ineededausername> but I don't know whether BitMinerN8 is telling the truth

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[10:54:05] <@pirateat40> Just cleaning out the smaller accounts to make things easier.





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August 22, 2012, 06:01:20 PM
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hey - he's using my chrome extension
that's nice to know Smiley

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August 22, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
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hey - he's using my chrome extension
that's nice to know Smiley

OT but link it?
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August 22, 2012, 06:07:02 PM
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hey - he's using my chrome extension
that's nice to know Smiley

OT but link it?
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mplfonagphbambbggaghimbbhpjhapap

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August 22, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
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I have 15btc. Everyone want to sell me his account bitcoinmax.

PM your offers, the highest number get the deal. Last chance to get something out of your pirate's debt!

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August 22, 2012, 08:54:03 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102332.msg1121022#msg1121022

Selling this bad boy if anyone's interested. (Possibly) Thought I'd cross-post to raise the number of offers, if there are any.

(I am under the pretenses that Pirate will pay back, on the grounds that someone will fuck his life up if he doesn't. Not sure if I'm even going to sell this.)

Donations are welcome!
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August 22, 2012, 09:20:32 PM
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I'm Just waiting until payb.tc find a new way for us to participate in future bitcoin investisment ...I will be part of it if our pirate-funds are coming back or not ...

Bitcoinmax is just too good!

actually i have an idea up my sleeve and will be coding something all weekend...

i just don't have much time here at the moment.
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August 22, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
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if pirate doesnt pay up whats your plan for the coins your holding?

Its obvious, if hes holding any coins, they should go back to the person that sent them.. no one else...
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August 22, 2012, 09:38:10 PM
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if pirate doesnt pay up whats your plan for the coins your holding?

Its obvious, if hes holding any coins, they should go back to the person that sent them.. no one else...

perhaps it's not obvious, but if you've been paying attention to this thread, and to the rules of bitcoinmax, the *amount* you send is effectively tied up in BST immediately, even if the *coins* you send are still in my wallet.

i'll dig up the relevant post so people can get their head around this.
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August 22, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
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following on from the previous post, i just want to make one point clear:

your investment is 100% exposed to BST as soon as you send it to me, regardless of where the outputs of your actual transaction get spent.


whats are your take on to what kind of service BCST is providing to its clients and therefore the risk exposure to your buiseness and that of your lenders?

Cheers Zyk

P.S.  you mean if pirate goes bust you are free of returning principal ?

my take is that it works, so i don't really concern myself with trying to find out why it works. if pirate really wanted us to know, he'd tell us.

and yes i'm free of returning principal: your principal 'amount' is with BST.

an example of that would be let's say to start with i have 200 btc which i keep here:

BST wallet   100   i own 100% of these coins
My wallet   100   i own 100% of these coins

then, a bitcoinmax lender decides to invest 40 btc (sending it to MY wallet), the ownership changes immediately to:

BST wallet   100   i own 60 of these coins, and the bitcoinmax lender owns the other 40
My wallet   140   i own 100% of these coins

then if BST stops paying, i've lost 60 btc, and the bitcoinmax lender has lost 40 btc, even though the actual 40 bitcoins that he sent are still unspent in my own personal wallet.


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August 22, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
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perhaps it's not obvious, but if you've been paying attention to this thread, and to the rules of bitcoinmax, the *amount* you send is effectively tied up in BST immediately, even if the *coins* you send are still in my wallet.

i'll dig up the relevant post so people can get their head around this.


Just to point out, it's tough finding the good stuff in this thread due to massive trolling.

Some mods have stated they'll enforce "local rules" if you proclaim it business only, so I advise it as a good method to keep your next business thread declared with local rules explaining what belongs in that thread so Moderation will actually keep it clean.

So they say.
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August 22, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
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I agree with the coins that had it the account. I don't know how long it takes you to pass it thru, but if someone invested 100 coins an hour before the announcement and you still had them in your account before you knew about the closing, wouldnt it be the most ethical thing to send them right back?

I totally get it once they are out of your hands.. I guess we are talking about a pretty small number, so, its not that big of deal, to me anyways... I mean, to your knowledge where there any deposits refused and sent back? i guess thats what im really getting at... really after the announcement, according to pirate, he said that they would be returned..
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August 22, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
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I'm Just waiting until payb.tc find a new way for us to participate in future bitcoin investisment ...I will be part of it if our pirate-funds are coming back or not ...

Bitcoinmax is just too good!

actually i have an idea up my sleeve and will be coding something all weekend...

i just don't have much time here at the moment.


Be sure to let me know when you're ready Smiley

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