[BitcoinMax.com] Closed

[smoothie]

You always answer a question with a question?

yes

Something to hide?

Even pirate could answer the question from his end.

What's the problem? 

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[payb.tc]

You always answer a question with a question?

yes

Something to hide?

Even pirate could answer the question from his end.

What's the problem? 

hahaha... whoosh!

[Ilikeham]

It's really none of his business, now or after, the outcome is irrelevant.

If I want the socialists to come save me from myself I'll call them, don't call me.

Pirate had no problem telling everyone btcst is 500k. So whats the problem telling what bitcoinmax has?

payb.tc is not Pirate . That's exactly the difference. The information is totally irrelevant, he will get paid himself and pay out in turn or one or both of those steps will fail. That is how much needs to be public. If individuals choose to disclose their data, that is up to them.

Again, this movement by the anti ponzi group to save us from ourselves is boring. None of the lenders has a duty to report their exposure to the would be saviors of the BTC world.

Paid or not, it's so easy.

[smoothie]

Ok,  ~250BTC sent to the address you PM'd me.

Thanks

thanks, got it

12 weeks at 6.9% compounded = 556.76btc......nice lol

[drakahn]

You always answer a question with a question?

yes

Something to hide?

Even pirate could answer the question from his end.

What's the problem? 

hahaha... whoosh!

I lulzed twice, first time because I have done the same joke, second because WHOOSH

[smoothie]

stuff...

1) Read this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1081138#msg1081138 from this very thread.

2) Get off your lazy ass and calculate it yourself.

Sounds like someone is mad....did you get your bitcoins out yet? lol 

[drakahn]

[smoothie]

It's really none of his business, now or after, the outcome is irrelevant.

If I want the socialists to come save me from myself I'll call them, don't call me.

Pirate had no problem telling everyone btcst is 500k. So whats the problem telling what bitcoinmax has?

payb.tc is not Pirate . That's exactly the difference. The information is totally irrelevant, he will get paid himself and pay out in turn or one or both of those steps will fail. That is how much needs to be public. If individuals choose to disclose their data, that is up to them.

Again, this movement by the anti ponzi group to save us from ourselves is boring. None of the lenders has a duty to report their exposure to the would be saviors of the BTC world.

Paid or not, it's so easy.

What is there to hide? lol...honest service right? Oh right can't disclose anything that might incriminate themselves lol

[Shadow383]

stuff...

1) Read this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1081138#msg1081138 from this very thread.

2) Get off your lazy ass and calculate it yourself.

You've been very quiet on your 10K bet thread - not going to post another update so you can tell everyone how much interest you've made?  

[robocoin]

[Ilikeham]

It's really none of his business, now or after, the outcome is irrelevant.

If I want the socialists to come save me from myself I'll call them, don't call me.

Pirate had no problem telling everyone btcst is 500k. So whats the problem telling what bitcoinmax has?

payb.tc is not Pirate . That's exactly the difference. The information is totally irrelevant, he will get paid himself and pay out in turn or one or both of those steps will fail. That is how much needs to be public. If individuals choose to disclose their data, that is up to them.

Again, this movement by the anti ponzi group to save us from ourselves is boring. None of the lenders has a duty to report their exposure to the would be saviors of the BTC world.

Paid or not, it's so easy.

What is there to hide? lol...honest service right? Oh right can't disclose anything that might incriminate themselves lol

Simple, it's not your data to have. If you want the data , create it yourself. If you walk up to me on the street and ask my name I'd likely shrug you off too.

What is there to hide? My name. It's not yours to share.

[smoothie]

stuff...

1) Read this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1081138#msg1081138 from this very thread.

2) Get off your lazy ass and calculate it yourself.

You've been very quiet on your 10K bet thread - not going to post another update so you can tell everyone how much interest you've made?  

which 10k bet thread?

[ErebusBat]

stuff...

1) Read this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1081138#msg1081138 from this very thread.

2) Get off your lazy ass and calculate it yourself.

You've been very quiet on your 10K bet thread - not going to post another update so you can tell everyone how much interest you've made?  

which 10k bet thread?

Oh god (face palm)

[Shadow383]

stuff...

1) Read this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1081138#msg1081138 from this very thread.

2) Get off your lazy ass and calculate it yourself.

You've been very quiet on your 10K bet thread - not going to post another update so you can tell everyone how much interest you've made?  

which 10k bet thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97094.0

[Micon]

Micon. Why does it matter if you are so sure he won't pay?

It's important to understand the size of the payment that is owed at this time to understand the current stall tactics and to better illustrate the size of this scam when you add up all the personal, direct 5k+ BTC investments, BurtW's operation, BitcoinMax - Could be over $2M+ USD - really no way to properly judge the size.

As a major operator I don't understand why you would keep relevant info from all of us - clearly you customers would also like to know the total.

Feel free to remove your personal amount if you would only like to give the Bitcoinmax total - but you owe at least that much to your customers at this point - all you can do now is help manage their expectations as honestly as possible.

[ErebusBat]

Any customer already knows how much is in line before them.

I agree this really is t your business.

[Micon]

1)  payb.tc - this is an extremely serious matter at this point.  The first of many deadlines, dates, and "just wait" periods have expired.  I want to know the total BTC owed to your accounts.  I do not want to know any individual information, and debating me on your exact number of accounts is childish and arbitrary.  373, 367, 400 or 350 is about the same, and judging from the people looking to sell their accounts there were a handful of large holdings.  I feel we should know how much in total to better gauge the scale of what Pirate would have to be holding in order to make the orderly return of funds as promised.  This is very important information at this stage and can help manage the expectations of your clients.  Just a total BTC owed to BitcoinMax from Pirate is the number that I think many in this thread, pro or against, would like to know and the total number doesn't violate any client's privacy.

2)  If you are owed ~ 50k BTC from Pirateat40 then it can be theorized that BurtW has a similar sized operation with the pass-through bonds.  I recently heard today of other large individual investors that did business directly with Pirate.  This is adding up to a large amount, and knowing exact figures would put more into perspective what was already paid out in interest and what is currently owed back as principle. 

3)  Best guess Pirate Debt right now is ~ $2.4M USD - this is only a guess of course, I know numbers like 500k BTC / ~ $5M USD have been tossed around and that's certainly possible but I think Pirate likes to exaggerate a bit.  I further wouldn't be surprised if he owes ~ $800k USD and is claiming $5M - but the point here is that Pirate has the largest BTC debt ever owed - and by a very large margin.

if 373, 367, 400 and 350 are all the same to you then to you micon i say i am owed 150,000 bitcoins, no wait, make that 141,000 bitcoins, err actually i'm owed 194,403 btc... all the same right?

keep guessing, i don't owe you anything. not coins, nor facts.

again a very childish and arbitrary response. 

Now it's not just me, but your customers that want to know. This information is extremely relevant to this matter at this exact time, no matter which side you are on.

[ErebusBat]

Way to ignore my post Bryan where I told you that we already know.

[Raoul Duke]

Way to ignore my post Bryan where I told you that we already know.

But he doesn't know... The part about customers wanting to know is just a lame excuse.

[payb.tc]

As a major operator I don't understand why you would keep relevant info from all of us - clearly you customers would also like to know the total.

why is the total relevant?

if 'customers' feel that the total is relevant, they can PM me to discuss it.

if unrelated parties such as yourself feel that the total is relevant, get a girlfriend or find a hobby.

you seem to think that because you are uninformed, everybody must be uninformed it's mainly just you.