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August 10, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
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What happens if you die? Is there anybody that can withdraw the money?

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August 10, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
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What happens if you die? Is there anybody that can withdraw the money?

what happens if pirate dies is an even bigger question ? Grin
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August 10, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
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What happens if you die? Is there anybody that can withdraw the money?

what happens if pirate dies is an even bigger question ? Grin

Pirate claims to have a dead mans switch that will make everybody whole.

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August 11, 2012, 04:54:56 AM
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What happens if you die? Is there anybody that can withdraw the money?

what happens if pirate dies is an even bigger question ? Grin

Pirate claims to have a dead mans switch that will make everybody whole.

Pirate claims many things. Most of them is a lie. Given the facts, even if they are not, they should be assumed as such until an irrefutable proof that his operation is not a ponzi is presented. The same goes for everything pirate's shills say.



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August 11, 2012, 05:05:08 AM
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Pirate claims many things. Most of them is a lie. Given the facts, even if they are not, they should be assumed as such until an irrefutable proof that his operation is not a ponzi is presented. The same goes for everything pirate's shills say.

I can claim that there is a celestial teapot orbiting the sun, doesnt mean its true just because no one can disprove it.

Where is your proof of these so called lies by pirate?

Or are you just pissy cause you cant work out how to earn a similar amount of profit?

Boo hiss, take your FUD to the FUD threads, this is a pass through not a ponzi, have a read up on the difference.

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August 11, 2012, 05:21:43 AM
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Pirate claims many things. Most of them is a lie. Given the facts, even if they are not, they should be assumed as such until an irrefutable proof that his operation is not a ponzi is presented. The same goes for everything pirate's shills say.

I can claim that there is a celestial teapot orbiting the sun, doesnt mean its true just because no one can disprove it.

Thank you for supporting my point. It is pirate and his shills claiming the teapot not me. Hence the burden of proof is on them. Also note how some sentences of your post contradict others sentences of your post.

I can clarify why whatever pirate and his shills say must be assumed to be a potential lie for the purposes of ponzi/non-ponzi argument. The logic is simple and undeniable.

1. Ponzi is form of fraud and is based on lie(s).
2. Hence, whatever alleged ponzi operator and his shills say without providing objective evidence supporting their claims cannot be asserted as true. i.e. they are not reliable witnesses.

Simply, words of ponzi operators cannot be relied upon as a valid argument in this matter. Only objective evidence can.

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I would suggest that assuming pirate is operating a fraudulent investment scheme (which is a reasonable assumption) pass through operators are complicit in fraud.




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August 11, 2012, 05:26:52 AM
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Please take your anti-pirate statements, however justified, to one of the copious dedicated threads.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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August 11, 2012, 06:31:29 AM
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You grammar is a lies, sir. Maybe you should dedicate an entire issue of BTC Magazine to ponzis. Right after people start buying issue #1, I guess.

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August 11, 2012, 07:02:24 AM
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You grammar is a lies, sir.
um, just... wow...

maybe you should lay off on other people's grammar...

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August 11, 2012, 08:13:11 AM
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Thank you for supporting my point. It is pirate and his shills claiming the teapot not me.

My point illustrates that one, such as you, can claim anything, it doesnt make it a fact just because -you- cant be disproved.

What is certain is that people are earning 6.9% interest through bitcoinmax, thats all we care about in this thread.

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August 11, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
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payb.tc: Does someone else have access to make withdrawals if you are unable to do so? Say in the unlikely case that you are in an accident and go to a coma for a month.

as of today, yes, including access to this forum account.


quoting this old post as it's an issue that has been brought up again recently.
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August 11, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
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yes.. this was quoted in last posts... and for now, take a happier topic Smiley your service is great and its most important for all of us i think Smiley
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August 11, 2012, 08:49:53 PM
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thanks for walking me thought that address change, just another fine example of quality service that you give.  Smiley
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August 11, 2012, 10:10:45 PM
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My point illustrates that one, such as you, can claim anything, it doesnt make it a fact just because -you- cant be disproved.

What is certain is that people are earning 6.9% interest through bitcoinmax, thats all we care about in this thread.

kind regards

I very much doubt this is true on average. For all we know, the majority of Bitcoinmax users has a heavily negative real BTC balance despite the astronomical returns. People almost never withdraw, and re-invest excessively. Heck, last Monday we didn't even see pay-outs of half the expected interest.

Now, I can't prove Pirate isn't Satoshi on a charity trip, and I can't tell others what to do with their money. But if those 6.9% paper returns really are all people care about in this thread, we've identified the problem.
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August 11, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
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Please direct your FUD, however justified, to one of the dedicated threads.

Thank you

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August 11, 2012, 11:13:23 PM
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I very much doubt this is true on average.

Its true, we get interest - 6.9% actually.

People almost never withdraw...

An assertion or a fact? the former I would guess.  Ive withdrawn more than I have invested.  See if you were a bitcoinmax user you would know this, the withdraws are visible to users.

Heck, last Monday we didn't even see pay-outs of half the expected interest.

Heck, you love making stuff up.  Payments were later than usual, but no-one missed out in here, perhaps read back a few pages and see.

Now, I can't prove Pirate isn't <insert stupid FUD or assertion>

And we come full circle, so your just asserting your opinion, whereas all participants in bitcoinmax are actually making money.

I can't tell others what to do with their money.

Well you try and try and try, but no-one likes listening to opinion about how we are not earning, or will not earn in the face of the fact that we are earning bucketloads of BTC.

But if those 6.9% paper returns really are all people care about in this thread, we've identified the problem.

I think we have identified the problem, we are earning BTC and you are not.

Join bitcoinmax today and you too could happily earn 6.9% interest and maybe catch up on that 5k debt you have accrued.

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August 12, 2012, 05:01:40 AM
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I think we have identified the problem, we are earning BTC and you are not.

from: wildemagic


yeah thats true Cheesy
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August 12, 2012, 05:09:49 AM
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I think we have identified the problem, we are earning BTC and you are not.

yeah thats true Cheesy

Yes! and they usually pop up on sundays, one day before receiving the interest! I guess its jealousy that drives them Wink
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August 12, 2012, 08:42:09 AM
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Yes! and they usually pop up on sundays, one day before receiving the interest! I guess its jealousy that drives them Wink

I don't know what else it could be.

When you understand what effect high levels of risk can have on your capital, you do not want drivelling shits shouting the same stale song in your ear - repeating, verbatim, tidings of woe and warning.

If you guys think we're asshats, that's fine - I think you're asshats, too, but I don't repeat it several times in several threads where it has no place.

My apologies for off topic.


Kind regards.

Having read through a lot of it, I recommend you take almost all of what you read on this forum in jest.
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August 12, 2012, 10:04:59 AM
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Every bank and monetary system paying out interest is a ponzi....either interest rates decline or it collapses in the end as the earth is finite....

But Pirates ponzi ( as is bitcoin) is in the beginning stages and has its special lure because there is no quantitative easing in bitcoins....

As long as the old ponzi is managed by even bigger crooks who are extorting the world with printed aircraft carriers, bitcoins growth of 7 percent weekly is easily

managable for sometime...already thought about that Vladimir and Vandroi Huh

Of course it amazes me too that pirate is not giving out a better story than secrecy about his dealings and still payouts are made..... but if he would do so and bitcoinmax

would provide the service in every european language to draw in the flight capital i really would be fully invested Cool Wink   (- bitcoins as new world reserve currency-?)

@ Vandroi and Vladimir : and you ´d be better tooooo

Cheers Zyk
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