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September 06, 2015, 06:42:32 AM
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1200 blocks to go, I got the new newsletter in my mailbox today, the new sourcecode and downloads are available here: https://github.com/Electronic-Gulden-Foundation/egulden/releases this should take care of the sync problems, feedback is welcome!

2 more days?
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September 06, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
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1200 blocks to go, I got the new newsletter in my mailbox today, the new sourcecode and downloads are available here: https://github.com/Electronic-Gulden-Foundation/egulden/releases this should take care of the sync problems, feedback is welcome!

2 more days?

742 blocks from now. That will be close to monday sept 6th 2015 13:30 (amsterdam/paris)
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September 06, 2015, 12:36:09 PM
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Hello all, as some of you might remember last year I had a car crash, today this is exactly 1 year ago. Because of the crash I was unable to communicate here for quite some time which made some people upset and caused some panic. Luckily I survived the crash and to celebrate my good recovery I rewarded every eGulden friend who registered him/herself as such with 1 block reward today!


Glad I'm still with you! I used www.efl.nl to perform the transactions for me and added the message "good life" to all the payments.


Cheers!
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September 07, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
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some big orders in the market today, happy times! blockhalving in effect!
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September 07, 2015, 12:49:42 PM
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For everybody with some extra cash, our cryptsy market is lagging in pricemovement, so arbitrage opportunities going on!

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/455
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-EFL
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September 07, 2015, 11:51:15 PM
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Seems like we are catching them again Smiley

Wonder when bitcoiners are going to give us some swag, maybe leipe barry feels like making a comment on how all of the trade was just dumping, or bramvnl feels like calling us a scam pump and dump without any future, or maybe they play the ignore and it will fly over card. Cheesy In the meantime, we are passing the cent and I will be having my first public talk for the youth Libertarian party in the Netherlands in 11 days, guess what cryptocoin is going to be mentioned there? Our development would go a lot faster with some help of this bitcointalk community, but most of you prefer to ignore us, feel free.

I hope people will understand the dynamics of the dutch crypto community and how we make part of it, although most of the active bitcointalk members would like to see us die. We might not be the best in marketing, but our coin has the most bright future ahead of it. Don't feel like you are late to the party because you missed today's action, the real action has yet to start!
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September 08, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHe4OQ4bY4o no further comment

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September 08, 2015, 07:44:35 AM
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with great thanks to a great night in Liberland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kJLW2EwMg

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September 08, 2015, 02:48:09 PM
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http://Tja, we hebben niet elke paar dagen een nieuwe ontwikkeling bij EFL zoals andere coins, die bijna dagelijks wel een uitvinding hebben waarmee men de 0,5% van de bevolking die van ze heeft gehoord in extase gaan brengen zodat iedereen met een bjna orgastisch gevoel de munt massaal gaat inkopen om die weer uit te gaan geven aan online bestelde calzone-pizza's met extra kaas.  

We werken liever in alle rust aan iets goeds en toekomstbestendigs. Daar hoort structuur bij én het allerbelangrijkste: Niet datgene maken wat de 20 actieve leden van de community zo geweldig nodig vinden maar meer wat de gebruikers van e-Gulden nodig vinden en gaan vinden. Want zij zijn het die e-Gulden groot gaan maken. Niet de leden van de community of de EFL foundation. Er wordt achter de schermen hard aan gewerkt onder de projectnaam / werknaam zo u wilt "EFL 2.0". De eerdere werknaam "Scamcoin" hebben we maar even losgelaten omdat dit verwarring gaf bij de buitenwereld.

Binnenkort verschijnt de speciale vriendennieuwsbrief waarin we alvast een tipje van de sluier op beginnen te lichten. Bent u nog geen vriend van EFL? Regel dat dan zsm. En u krijgt de kans mee te gaan praten, u mening te geven etc. Het special marktonderzoek-weblog staat al op u te wachten zoals u hieronder kunt zien.

Want invoeren van de e-Gulden gaan we samen doen zoals op onderstaande link/afbeelding te zien is.

http://www.effective-ads.nl/efl/marktonderzoek/markt.jpg

Langzaam maar zeker zal die sluier verdwijnen en zal de nieuwe opzet van EFL 2.0 een kleine (of misschien wel grote) revolutie in cryptoland teweeg gaan brengen. De hoofdlijnen moeten in 2015 getrokken zijn. In 2016 gaan we los en worden de kaarten in cryptoland definitief geschud...

En dan hebben we het met losgaan niet over weer wat nieuwe techniek voor de eigen club, zoals beschreven in http://elektronischgeld.blogspot.nl/2015/09/cultvorming-rond-cryptogeld.html.

Integendeel.

Dan gaan we los voor meerdere extra inkomstenbronnen voor (toekomstige) bezitters van EFL.

Dan gaan we los voor een extra kortingsmogelijkheid bij betalingen met EFL.

En dan gaan we los voor een unieke nieuwe super-effectieve marketingmogelijkheid voor merchants die EFL graag zullen gaan accepteren.

Dan gaan we los voor een zeer aantrekkelijke beleggingsmogelijkheid. Vergeet die 400% van het afgelopen jaar. Dat is pas het begin.

Kortom, EFL 2.0 gaat geld opleveren voor alle stakeholders die ermee te maken hebben.

De vele andere coins die er tegen die tijd zullen zijn gunnen we alle succes bij het uitgeven van hun munten. Wij gaan er liever geld mee verdienen. Dan kun je daarna des te meer uitgeven. Al dan niet aan pizza's.

Het nieuwe motto wordt dan ook:



 EFL, de verdienmunt!
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EFL : The earning coin; 

This motto appeals much to me buurman. Possession of money should should represent something that you earned.

Earning means that you have to do something for it. It means new activity and new economy. This way earning and saving go side by side.

This is the essence of prosperity : Produce more than you consume and save the difference. Because e-Gulden increases the effectivity of saving, it gives a new meaning to production.

So let's go for it. Everybody can contribute somehow to e-Gulden prosperity.

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EFL : de verdienmunt

Spreekt me erg aan buurman. Uiteindelijk zou al het bezit van geld iets moeten zijn dat je verdiend hebt.

Verdienen betekent dat je er iets voor moet doen. Dat betekent nieuwe activiteit en nieuwe economie. Zo gaan verdienen en sparen hand in hand.

De essentie van welvaart is niet voor niets : Produceer meer dan dat je consumeert en spaar het verschil. Doordat we sparen weer zinvol maken wordt produceren dat ook. 

Dus met zijn allen de schouders er onder, voor elk wat wils ! Een begin is je aanmelden als vriend want alleen zij ontvangen natuurlijk de vriendennieuwsbrief : http://egulden.org/community/vrienden-van-de-e-gulden
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Tja, we hebben niet elke paar dagen een nieuwe ontwikkeling bij EFL zoals andere coins, die bijna dagelijks wel een uitvinding hebben waarmee men de 0,5% van de bevolking die van ze heeft gehoord in extase gaan brengen zodat iedereen met een bjna orgastisch gevoel de munt massaal gaat inkopen om die weer uit te gaan geven aan online bestelde calzone-pizza's met extra kaas.  

We werken liever in alle rust aan iets goeds en toekomstbestendigs. Daar hoort structuur bij én het allerbelangrijkste: Niet datgene maken wat de 20 actieve leden van de community zo geweldig nodig vinden maar meer wat de gebruikers van e-Gulden nodig vinden en gaan vinden. Want zij zijn het die e-Gulden groot gaan maken. Niet de leden van de community of de EFL foundation. Er wordt achter de schermen hard aan gewerkt onder de projectnaam / werknaam zo u wilt "EFL 2.0". De eerdere werknaam "Scamcoin" hebben we maar even losgelaten omdat dit verwarring gaf bij de buitenwereld.

Binnenkort verschijnt de speciale vriendennieuwsbrief waarin we alvast een tipje van de sluier op beginnen te lichten. Bent u nog geen vriend van EFL? Regel dat dan zsm. En u krijgt de kans mee te gaan praten, u mening te geven etc. Het special marktonderzoek-weblog staat al op u te wachten zoals u hieronder kunt zien.

Want invoeren van de e-Gulden gaan we samen doen zoals op onderstaande link/afbeelding te zien is.



Langzaam maar zeker zal die sluier verdwijnen en zal de nieuwe opzet van EFL 2.0 een kleine (of misschien wel grote) revolutie in cryptoland teweeg gaan brengen. De hoofdlijnen moeten in 2015 getrokken zijn. In 2016 gaan we los en worden de kaarten in cryptoland definitief geschud...

En dan hebben we het met losgaan niet over weer wat nieuwe techniek voor de eigen club, zoals beschreven in http://elektronischgeld.blogspot.nl/2015/09/cultvorming-rond-cryptogeld.html.

Integendeel.

Dan gaan we los voor meerdere extra inkomstenbronnen voor (toekomstige) bezitters van EFL.

Dan gaan we los voor een extra kortingsmogelijkheid bij betalingen met EFL.

En dan gaan we los voor een unieke nieuwe super-effectieve marketingmogelijkheid voor merchants die EFL graag zullen gaan accepteren.

Dan gaan we los voor een zeer aantrekkelijke beleggingsmogelijkheid. Vergeet die 400% van het afgelopen jaar. Dat is pas het begin.

Kortom, EFL 2.0 gaat geld opleveren voor alle stakeholders die ermee te maken hebben.

De vele andere coins die er tegen die tijd zullen zijn gunnen we alle succes bij het uitgeven van hun munten. Wij gaan er liever geld mee verdienen. Dan kun je daarna des te meer uitgeven. Al dan niet aan pizza's.

Het nieuwe motto wordt dan ook:



 EFL, de verdienmunt!

translation:

Well, we at EFL do not have new developments every day like some of the other coins that do have an allmost daily invention which that small 0.5% of the population that heard from that brings them total extacy in order for them to have an almost orgasmic feeling when they massively buy that coin so they can spend in on calzone pizza’s with extra cheese.

We prefer to work in peace on something good and durable. This includes some kind of structure and most important of all: Not to make something that 20 active members of the community think is needed, but more what the future users of EFL think is needed. Because it is them who will make e-Gulden big. Not the members of the community or EFL Foundation. Behind the curtains we are working hard under the projectname / workingname if preferred “EFL 2.0” The previousname “Scamcoin” has been let go because it caused some confusion in the outside world.

Soon there will be a special Friends-of-eGulden newsletter in which we will show a bit of our future. Are you not a friend of eGulden yet? Take care of this as soon as possible! You will have the opportunity to join the conversation, give your opinion etc. The special marketresearch-weblog is waiting for you, as can be seen down from here.

Because getting e-Gulden into circulation is something that we will do together, as you can see in the link/image below.



Slowly but surely we will remove the curtains and our new way of handling EFL 2.0 will cause a small (or perhaps even a big) r3\/0_|ution in the cryptoworld. The mail goals will be set in 2015. In 2016 we go full throttle and will the cards in cryptoland be shuffled indefinitely.

With full throttle we do not talk about new technical innovations for the current club, as is written here:  http://elektronischgeld.blogspot.nl/2015/09/cultvorming-rond-cryptogeld.html.

You could say the opposite is truth:

We go full force in creating extra sources of income for (future) owners of EFL.

We go full force in creating reduction on prices when people pay with EFL.

We go full force on a unique, new, super-efficient marketingtool for merchants that will start to accept EFL.

We go full force for super attractive investment opportunities. Forget about the 400%+ of last year, this is just the beginning.

In short, EFL 2.0 is going to earn money for its stakeholders who are holding a share in the protocol.

The numerous other coins that circulate by that time will have our best wishes by spending the coin for goods. We prefer to make money with it. After that you can spend it, to pizza or whatever you wish.


Our new motto for these reasons will be:


EFL, the earningcoin!
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Sorry for posting some Dutch text in the English part of this forum. It was my first post. And likely it's not the last one, looking at the near future for e-Gulden.

At this moment a group of 6 people is looking at a commercial version of e-Gulden. Some of them studied both Guldencoin and e-Gulden to find the best solution for the Netherlands. But they think that e-Gulden has the best chances to survive. As a member of the team I'm gone tell here what we're doing and about the progression of the project. We call this project EFL 2.0.  At this moment we spend our time with a lot of talking. With some more investors, With marketingspecialists, With educational specialists. Not with devs? Right, Not with devs.  The technology behind EFL works just great.

Because it's likely we'll be hiring, human resource specialism is a necessity to. The bleuprint for the new organisation and it's automated systems will be ready around christmas. The launch for EFL 2.0 is scheduled for summer 2016 but a lot of things will start long before this moment. Some working is started already.

Everybody who wants to discuss facts (not de EFL-hoaxes some people dump here) is welcome. For other altcoins there's always an opened door. We like to cooperate but we don't need it.

Within a year, cryptomoney in the Netherlands wil be grown up!
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Hy just started to mine this coin for about a week now  i like what i see in this coin and the fact that it on 3 exchange prove Gulden coin is going some where ....

                                 
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Sorry for posting some Dutch text in the English part of this forum. It was my first post. And likely it's not the last one, looking at the near future for e-Gulden.

At this moment a group of 6 people is looking at a commercial version of e-Gulden. Some of them studied both Guldencoin and e-Gulden to find the best solution for the Netherlands. But they think that e-Gulden has the best chances to survive. As a member of the team I'm gone tell here what we're doing and about the progression of the project. We call this project EFL 2.0.  At this moment we spend our time with a lot of talking. With some more investors, With marketingspecialists, With educational specialists. Not with devs? Right, Not with devs.  The technology behind EFL works just great.

Because it's likely we'll be hiring, human resource specialism is a necessity to. The bleuprint for the new organisation and it's automated systems will be ready around christmas. The launch for EFL 2.0 is scheduled for summer 2016 but a lot of things will start long before this moment. Some working is started already.

Everybody who wants to discuss facts (not de EFL-hoaxes some people dump here) is welcome. For other altcoins there's always an opened door. We like to cooperate but we don't need it.

Within a year, cryptomoney in the Netherlands wil be grown up!

Solid news! Congratulations, from my part it's not a big issue to translate some words from dutch to english Smiley
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September 11, 2015, 12:34:26 AM
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Hy just started to mine this coin for about a week now  i like what i see in this coin and the fact that it on 3 exchange prove Gulden coin is going some where ....

Please be aware there is NLG Guldencoin and

EFL eGulden

you are currently posting in EFL eGulden topic, so please use the right words for the coin to make sure there is no confusion
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September 11, 2015, 10:43:05 AM
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A cryptocoin needs a lot of things to gain success. An important issue is the possibility to analyze the markets. There is a lot of software to do this but most times it's a total fail.

For EFL (and other coins) the investors are very important stakeholders. So we need to give them superior tools. EFL can use the "trendkanaal" software and JSMA graphs, developed around 2000. This system made 48 euro-millionaires in The Netherlands alone. Then it was killed by a major bank and the dutch Department of Justice. Enough was enough! This system hasn't proved itself in the cryptoworld (didn't exist at that time :-) ) but the first tests on e-Gulden and Guldencoin are very good.

Here is an example of the situation on Wallstreet,  on 9-11, 14 years ago today. Beside all the casualties, a lot of investors lost a lot of money on that black day.  But the software predicted a drop of the market already on the beginning of jun (verkoop in the graph). And confirmed it a second time. The market was heading down already. The professional traders went to short positions. But the man in the street kept on buying...And they lost as usual.

http://www.effective-ads.nl/pics/911.jpg

(for some weird reason the picture doesn't expand so you have to click the link. Sorry)

EFL 2.0 has a lot of stakeholders. But for the investors we don't have a lot to do. It's already there..
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September 15, 2015, 06:45:11 AM
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The 4.95 million premine is the single biggest entity of supply that will need to come onto the EFL network, PoW phase is only 2.58 million coins to be mined as 18,410,075 coins out of the 21 million total are released.
Mining all the PoW coins until 21 million would just be over 50% of the premine and will be way under 50% at the end of this reward phase.

What plans does EFL have to release the premine and are you waiting for a higher price to get more benefit?

The above question came from my brother.
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The 4.95 million premine is the single biggest entity of supply that will need to come onto the EFL network, PoW phase is only 2.58 million coins to be mined as 18,410,075 coins out of the 21 million total are released.
Mining all the PoW coins until 21 million would just be over 50% of the premine and will be way under 50% at the end of this reward phase.

What plans does EFL have to release the premine and are you waiting for a higher price to get more benefit?

The above question came from my brother.

The plans to release the premine have never changed. From the beginning the purpose of the premine was : controlled and even distribution to as many citizens as possible. This proved to be extremely difficult and the foundation was established to secure the remaining premine for this purpose.

You can think of many reasons to maintain this purpose. One important reason is to present an easy way to get some e-Gulden, to create awareness and to present a small incentive as a reward for paying attention to what we have to say.  

It makes no sense to distribute everything now because it is impossible to "reach" every citizen at this moment in time.
Whe do distribute now, however. We distribute through controlled marketing campaigns. Important to us is that everybody can see where the premine is going to. The marketing programs are public and every satoshi spend is accounted for and visible on our website. Sorry for the dutch language, but that's where we focus.

You are right when you would say that we were not very effective yet. A higher price will be more convincive, not a higher quantity.
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September 16, 2015, 09:36:17 AM
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What release cause pump in price or pump because other Dutch coin got pump? Is this the Maryjane to Cannibiscoin
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