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Btw, ironically. Real hashing power fluctuates. Hashing is like a cpu, it
move around and goes up and down. That's actually how it works.
If you by from a company and it does not, that is not the actual hashing
power, rather a math equation.
So this means that if you buy it and it does not move, then what your
actually buying is a payout. Not actual hashing power. Hm. Any mining experts want to weigh in? Just more proof the "hashking" is clueless about mining. Hardware hashrate doesn't "go up and down". He probably just saw his hashrate fluctuate on a pool and tried to mimic it with his ponzi. (even though zencloud was not a pool) |
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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relized that after i posted. netx time.
Still needs sum work. It has too bee phone ethically close butt make no scents. SM, I think Garza hacked you lol |
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I am not deeply involved in the Paycoin mess, sorry for this really basic question:
Are there still "primenodes" (or whatever they were called) frequently receiving large numbers of new coins?
Can "the community" edit the code and eliminate the large rewards for elite accounts after Josh is busted?
There is a hardfork planned by "the community" for April 20 to reduce the staking rate to 100% from 350%. Still it rewards a small number of wallets (50) with a disproportionately high rate (100% vs 5% regular rate). Prime controllers should be removed completely. There is no other community foundation or association as far as I am aware of that receives this type of benefit. ... Such a huge pile of wealth, reserved for a select few, is usually only observed occurring in the real world.... ...LOL? |
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Btw, ironically. Real hashing power fluctuates. Hashing is like a cpu, it
move around and goes up and down. That's actually how it works.
If you by from a company and it does not, that is not the actual hashing
power, rather a math equation.
So this means that if you buy it and it does not move, then what your
actually buying is a payout. Not actual hashing power. Hm. Any mining experts want to weigh in? Just more proof the "hashking" is clueless about mining. Hardware hashrate doesn't "go up and down". He probably just saw his hashrate fluctuate on a pool and tried to mimic it with his ponzi. (even though zencloud was not a pool) If I'm understanding this properly, on a pool it appears to fluctuate because it calculates based on the number of shares, which varies with luck, but if you measure it yourself it will always be the same power? |
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-07-30 19:12:03 <Tim Davis> Tesla is great.
2014-07-30 19:12:04 <Josh Garza> Yea, I have one of those too
2014-07-30 19:12:06 <Tim Davis> Love those cars.
2014-07-30 19:12:13 <Josh Garza> It was a gift from elon
2014-07-30 19:12:40 <Tim Davis> I met Elon about a month ago here in Cali.
2014-07-30 19:12:44 <Jacob Wheeling> Haha. Something about those Shelbys I love. Just raw power.
2014-07-30 19:12:46 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Nice. I am waiting for mine from him. He ignores me however.
2014-07-30 19:12:48 <Tim Davis> One of my heros
2014-07-30 19:12:54 <Josh Garza> Tesla uses a few of my patents
2014-07-30 19:12:58 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Absolutely
2014-07-30 19:13:06 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Wow
2014-07-30 19:13:12 <Josh Garza> So we worked on a few together, and he sent one to my house
2014-07-30 19:13:24 <Josh Garza> For may last birthday
2014-07-30 19:13:27 <Josh Garza> My
2014-07-30 19:13:51 <Jacob Wheeling> Nice present!
2014-07-30 19:13:56 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Definitely
2014-07-30 19:14:04 <Josh Garza> Have not talk to him in over a month
2014-07-30 19:14:23 <Josh Garza> Well, besides text
2014-07-30 19:14:34 <Josh Garza> But he is not a guy to keep bothering
2014-07-30 19:15:14 <unknown_100345444655821864408> That is cool.
2014-07-30 19:15:20 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am a bit jealous.
2014-07-30 19:15:38 <Josh Garza> Don't be, he just like anyone else
2014-07-30 19:15:44 <Josh Garza> Just smarter lol
2014-07-30 19:15:59 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I would love to meet him.
2014-07-30 19:16:13 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am not somebody who likes famous people but I would like to shake his hand
2014-07-30 19:16:47 <Josh Garza> You can, he is pretty easy to access
2014-07-30 19:17:01 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Brb
2014-07-30 19:20:06 <Jacob Wheeling> That's pretty cool!
2014-07-30 19:21:02 <Jacob Wheeling> So you also run a Internet company Josh?
2014-07-30 19:22:49 <Josh Garza> Among other things
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-07-30 19:12:03 <Tim Davis> Tesla is great.
2014-07-30 19:12:04 <Josh Garza> Yea, I have one of those too
2014-07-30 19:12:06 <Tim Davis> Love those cars.
2014-07-30 19:12:13 <Josh Garza> It was a gift from elon
2014-07-30 19:12:40 <Tim Davis> I met Elon about a month ago here in Cali.
2014-07-30 19:12:44 <Jacob Wheeling> Haha. Something about those Shelbys I love. Just raw power.
2014-07-30 19:12:46 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Nice. I am waiting for mine from him. He ignores me however.
2014-07-30 19:12:48 <Tim Davis> One of my heros
2014-07-30 19:12:54 <Josh Garza> Tesla uses a few of my patents
2014-07-30 19:12:58 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Absolutely
2014-07-30 19:13:06 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Wow
2014-07-30 19:13:12 <Josh Garza> So we worked on a few together, and he sent one to my house
2014-07-30 19:13:24 <Josh Garza> For may last birthday
2014-07-30 19:13:27 <Josh Garza> My
2014-07-30 19:13:51 <Jacob Wheeling> Nice present!
2014-07-30 19:13:56 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Definitely
2014-07-30 19:14:04 <Josh Garza> Have not talk to him in over a month
2014-07-30 19:14:23 <Josh Garza> Well, besides text
2014-07-30 19:14:34 <Josh Garza> But he is not a guy to keep bothering
2014-07-30 19:15:14 <unknown_100345444655821864408> That is cool.
2014-07-30 19:15:20 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am a bit jealous.
2014-07-30 19:15:38 <Josh Garza> Don't be, he just like anyone else
2014-07-30 19:15:44 <Josh Garza> Just smarter lol
2014-07-30 19:15:59 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I would love to meet him.
2014-07-30 19:16:13 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am not somebody who likes famous people but I would like to shake his hand
2014-07-30 19:16:47 <Josh Garza> You can, he is pretty easy to access
2014-07-30 19:17:01 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Brb
2014-07-30 19:20:06 <Jacob Wheeling> That's pretty cool!
2014-07-30 19:21:02 <Jacob Wheeling> So you also run a Internet company Josh?
2014-07-30 19:22:49 <Josh Garza> Among other things
Hahhaha Josh got patents on Tesla..... Which makes me curious. We know he's a lying pos but what is he background? Or he hid that completely? He sounds too dumb to have any technical degree like engineering... |
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Lmfao everybody in there pretends to be a financial wizard yet keeps chirping the fact they keep buying into paycoin. One of the most fundamental rules of investing, you don't throw good money in after bad. The key problem with those idiots is.... They're confused between gambling and investing..... |
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Well well well. Isn't that interesting. Paid shills on this forum eh. Not surprising. In particular this incredibly irritating little shit "Evil Panda" who nitpicked and parsed every single sentence down to the full stop questioning everyone on where is the proof Homero said this or that. Not unlike that ike character. I recall quite clearly this Evil Panda going on and on and on about there is no proof Homero said he had 'direct relationship' with Amazon Walmart and Target constantly trying to steer everyone away, so instant it could only be that they had a vested interest in it all and lo and behold..... two of many more Subject: daily report Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:33:23 +0100 From: EP < xoanek@o2.pl> To: josh@btc.comStill leaving positive feedback in the threads. Hopefully we'll have something more to say to them besides recalling those good old days when you could ROI with hashlets in 3 months  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg9468168#msg9468168Some positive comments in this thread, that hater is still trying to leave an impression of GAW being a ponzi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835464.msg9467421#msg9467421They were quoting this article of course calling the guy hardcore follower and so on. http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/This is the main hate thread on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7myv/can_we_talk_about_gaw/To sum up the claims are as follows: -hashlets were falsely advertised as "always profitable" -there was no vaultbreaker -the profits dropped and only people who invested early got their returns -there's a risk hashcoin will be pumped and dumped -hashcoin investment is a gamble and the coin itself was done too fast, so it may have a lot of bugs -claims of talks with amazon and other companies that weren't proved -you showed less miners and tdata centers than needed to prove you have as much hash power as you said you have, most of them accepted the photos as proof, but are still saying there was not enough miners. -they don't think shops will be interested in hashcoin if they aren't interested in bitcoin So the main problem is they get their hopes up, because we have a lot of advertising, people recomending, promotional campaigns, blogs, news sites and so on, but there's no real profitable product. That's why more and more people every day are skeptical. The haters that were banned on hashtalk are a margin, maybe 10 -15 people out of hundreds that invested. Somebody posted a daily payout comment: Prices on Prime Hashlets continued to fall throughout the past day. After polling sellers, it’s clear that they have a variety of reasons for selling. 40% responded that they were converting assets to lock in profits and provide disposable income. 14% sold to cover basic family needs and lifestyle changes. 26% are not clear on the future benefits of HashCoin and the remaining 20% had other specific reasons for selling their Primes.Prime HashletsPrime Hashlet prices fell back several dollars yesterday due to continued selling pressure. Best available price for a single 1 MH Prime is $36.75. Lowest unit price on a larger block is currently $35.30. We believe Primes are substantially undervalued at these prices. This morning 453 Prime Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Hold until HashCoin release, many deals available below $40.Zen HashletsZen Hashlet prices are stable with the floor at $12.50. Best price for a single 1 MH Zen is $12.49. Lowest unit price on a large block is currently $11.91. This morning 1,334 Zen Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Buy below $13.00 and hold until HashCoin release.Genesis HashletsGenesis prices continue to be stable on the Zencloud resale market, currently it’s the best choice if you’re looking for Bitcoin payouts. The floor is maintaining at about the $5.50 mark. Best price for a single 10 GH Genesis unit is currently $5.77, lowest unit price on a large block is $5.16. This morning 580 Genesis Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: A good value below $6.00.Other HashletsRecent price drops on Multi, Clever & Waffle Hashlets make them more attractive, but they offer little return with BTC below $400. The Expected Value (EV) is still significantly less than cost, unless you find liquidation prices on the open market. A thread about Vaultbreakers, some guy was asking why they weren't delivered and if the zenminer - pi compatibility is being improved. If one of your tech guys could answer them it would have been great. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22017.msg217073#msg217073New thread about KNC titans on litecointalk, seems like their miners are burning out in just few weeks. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22895.0List of concerns: From the cloud mining review thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860400.01) No public mining address A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is almost certainly a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None. 4) Open ended IPO Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long time) to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered extremely suspicious. 5) Referral programs and social networking Referral programs, especially ones that pay almost 10%, are a huge red flag. The mining market is cut throat with razor thin margins. No real company can afford to pay 10% referrals on below market cloudmining prices. Referral programs almost always serve only to feed the ponzi and provide financial incentive to posters to lie about the true nature of the company. Never trust anyone with a referral link in their sig. These are points attributed to GAW, that place it somewhere in the middle between legit and scammy companies in the ranking. If we could disprove them he'd have to change the rating, just like he did when I posted the pictures. Other things people have asked: How much actual hash power do you have and is it possible to see the scrypt data center, because the pictures show only the SHA one? The only pictures of the scrypt miners are either those old ones with Innosilicons (but there's maybe 50 of them in the picture which is much less power than you're providing) and the warehouse full of Zeuses, but they aren't connected, so it's not a proof to them. Were you mining other coins besides LTC in scrypt? If so which ones. Why are you paying some people using coins from purchases? (somebody traded his payout and claims that it was paid from the same address on which his money landed in the first place) Why don't you allow people's money to be sent directly to their wallets and make them use withdrawals instead? This would make it much easier and much more transparent. Why doesn't the marketplace use prices per GH, it would be less confusing for people to use it? There were also some concerns about the things you've said. For example the brand names you used to promote, like talks with Amazon and other companies. Someone even said you claimed to know the owner of Tesla, but he doesn't know you. Some guy also claimed you were to be on TV but weren't. They also asked about your connections with Stuart Fraser and why he is the owner or co-owner of your previous companies. A lot of this is pure trolling and speculation, but for example, one of the companies you were formerly employed by has the same address as Fraser's house. One idiot also said yesterday that you probably didn't finish high school because he hasn't seen your diploma and that you should hire someone to do the spellcheck for you... We could simply ignore all questions about hashtalk, because how you run this forum shouldn't concern them, but the hash power and mining address quiestions are persistent. I'll let you know when I come up with more, this should be enough for the time being. Looks like someone is already answering  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9613139#msg9613139Our guys are still responding in the threads. Some examples in case you missed them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9611786#msg9611786https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9606251#msg9606251https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9609762#msg9609762https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9608206#msg9608206https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9607375#msg9607375All fine in the campaign, people are happy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530420.msg9612625#msg9612625 |
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The key problem with those idiots is.... They're confused between gambling and investing.....
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Well well well. Isn't that interesting. Paid shills on this forum eh. Not surprising. In particular this incredibly irritating little shit "Evil Panda" who nitpicked and parsed every single sentence down to the full stop questioning everyone on where is the proof Homero said this or that. Not unlike that ike character. I recall quite clearly this Evil Panda going on and on and on about there is no proof Homero said he had 'direct relationship' with Amazon Walmart and Target constantly trying to steer everyone away, so instant it could only be that they had a vested interest in it all and lo and behold..... two of many more Subject: daily report Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:33:23 +0100 From: EP < xoanek@o2.pl> To: josh@btc.comStill leaving positive feedback in the threads. Hopefully we'll have something more to say to them besides recalling those good old days when you could ROI with hashlets in 3 months https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg9468168#msg9468168Some positive comments in this thread, that hater is still trying to leave an impression of GAW being a ponzi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835464.msg9467421#msg9467421They were quoting this article of course calling the guy hardcore follower and so on. http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/This is the main hate thread on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7myv/can_we_talk_about_gaw/To sum up the claims are as follows: -hashlets were falsely advertised as "always profitable" -there was no vaultbreaker -the profits dropped and only people who invested early got their returns -there's a risk hashcoin will be pumped and dumped -hashcoin investment is a gamble and the coin itself was done too fast, so it may have a lot of bugs -claims of talks with amazon and other companies that weren't proved -you showed less miners and tdata centers than needed to prove you have as much hash power as you said you have, most of them accepted the photos as proof, but are still saying there was not enough miners. -they don't think shops will be interested in hashcoin if they aren't interested in bitcoin So the main problem is they get their hopes up, because we have a lot of advertising, people recomending, promotional campaigns, blogs, news sites and so on, but there's no real profitable product. That's why more and more people every day are skeptical. The haters that were banned on hashtalk are a margin, maybe 10 -15 people out of hundreds that invested. Somebody posted a daily payout comment: Prices on Prime Hashlets continued to fall throughout the past day. After polling sellers, it’s clear that they have a variety of reasons for selling. 40% responded that they were converting assets to lock in profits and provide disposable income. 14% sold to cover basic family needs and lifestyle changes. 26% are not clear on the future benefits of HashCoin and the remaining 20% had other specific reasons for selling their Primes.Prime HashletsPrime Hashlet prices fell back several dollars yesterday due to continued selling pressure. Best available price for a single 1 MH Prime is $36.75. Lowest unit price on a larger block is currently $35.30. We believe Primes are substantially undervalued at these prices. This morning 453 Prime Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Hold until HashCoin release, many deals available below $40.Zen HashletsZen Hashlet prices are stable with the floor at $12.50. Best price for a single 1 MH Zen is $12.49. Lowest unit price on a large block is currently $11.91. This morning 1,334 Zen Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: Buy below $13.00 and hold until HashCoin release.Genesis HashletsGenesis prices continue to be stable on the Zencloud resale market, currently it’s the best choice if you’re looking for Bitcoin payouts. The floor is maintaining at about the $5.50 mark. Best price for a single 10 GH Genesis unit is currently $5.77, lowest unit price on a large block is $5.16. This morning 580 Genesis Hashlet blocks are listed for sale.Market Sense: A good value below $6.00.Other HashletsRecent price drops on Multi, Clever & Waffle Hashlets make them more attractive, but they offer little return with BTC below $400. The Expected Value (EV) is still significantly less than cost, unless you find liquidation prices on the open market. A thread about Vaultbreakers, some guy was asking why they weren't delivered and if the zenminer - pi compatibility is being improved. If one of your tech guys could answer them it would have been great. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22017.msg217073#msg217073New thread about KNC titans on litecointalk, seems like their miners are burning out in just few weeks. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22895.0List of concerns: From the cloud mining review thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860400.01) No public mining address A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is almost certainly a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None. 4) Open ended IPO Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long time) to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered extremely suspicious. 5) Referral programs and social networking Referral programs, especially ones that pay almost 10%, are a huge red flag. The mining market is cut throat with razor thin margins. No real company can afford to pay 10% referrals on below market cloudmining prices. Referral programs almost always serve only to feed the ponzi and provide financial incentive to posters to lie about the true nature of the company. Never trust anyone with a referral link in their sig. These are points attributed to GAW, that place it somewhere in the middle between legit and scammy companies in the ranking. If we could disprove them he'd have to change the rating, just like he did when I posted the pictures. Other things people have asked: How much actual hash power do you have and is it possible to see the scrypt data center, because the pictures show only the SHA one? The only pictures of the scrypt miners are either those old ones with Innosilicons (but there's maybe 50 of them in the picture which is much less power than you're providing) and the warehouse full of Zeuses, but they aren't connected, so it's not a proof to them. Were you mining other coins besides LTC in scrypt? If so which ones. Why are you paying some people using coins from purchases? (somebody traded his payout and claims that it was paid from the same address on which his money landed in the first place) Why don't you allow people's money to be sent directly to their wallets and make them use withdrawals instead? This would make it much easier and much more transparent. Why doesn't the marketplace use prices per GH, it would be less confusing for people to use it? There were also some concerns about the things you've said. For example the brand names you used to promote, like talks with Amazon and other companies. Someone even said you claimed to know the owner of Tesla, but he doesn't know you. Some guy also claimed you were to be on TV but weren't. They also asked about your connections with Stuart Fraser and why he is the owner or co-owner of your previous companies. A lot of this is pure trolling and speculation, but for example, one of the companies you were formerly employed by has the same address as Fraser's house. One idiot also said yesterday that you probably didn't finish high school because he hasn't seen your diploma and that you should hire someone to do the spellcheck for you... We could simply ignore all questions about hashtalk, because how you run this forum shouldn't concern them, but the hash power and mining address quiestions are persistent. I'll let you know when I come up with more, this should be enough for the time being. Looks like someone is already answering https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9613139#msg9613139Our guys are still responding in the threads. Some examples in case you missed them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9611786#msg9611786https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9606251#msg9606251https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9609762#msg9609762https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9608206#msg9608206https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9607375#msg9607375All fine in the campaign, people are happy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530420.msg9612625#msg9612625Every single piece of shit shills need to be exposed. 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Subject: Re: Amazon, Wal-mart, etc. Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:04:50 -0500 From: David McLain < dave@geniusesatwork.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> ok, but Brian expressed that he really would've liked to know that info prior to sending his response (as he may have suggested some different language). Although not his area of expertise, he said we should confirm that your statements concerning the partnerships won't be used against us related to the ICO. On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> wrote: How did your guys talk go? On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, David McLain < dave@geniusesatwork.com> wrote: Just for my knowledge (and I won't share with Brian K. at this point), what is the current status with Amazon, Wal-mart, etc. I'm assuming there are no firm deals in place at this point, but do we actually have NDAs signed with them? Have we been having discussions with them? David H. McLain, Esq. General Counsel Geniuses at Work Corporation / GAW Miners, LLC Direct dial: 267-257-8945 |
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-07-30 19:12:03 <Tim Davis> Tesla is great.
2014-07-30 19:12:04 <Josh Garza> Yea, I have one of those too
2014-07-30 19:12:06 <Tim Davis> Love those cars.
2014-07-30 19:12:13 <Josh Garza> It was a gift from elon
2014-07-30 19:12:40 <Tim Davis> I met Elon about a month ago here in Cali.
2014-07-30 19:12:44 <Jacob Wheeling> Haha. Something about those Shelbys I love. Just raw power.
2014-07-30 19:12:46 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Nice. I am waiting for mine from him. He ignores me however.
2014-07-30 19:12:48 <Tim Davis> One of my heros
2014-07-30 19:12:54 <Josh Garza> Tesla uses a few of my patents
2014-07-30 19:12:58 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Absolutely
2014-07-30 19:13:06 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Wow
2014-07-30 19:13:12 <Josh Garza> So we worked on a few together, and he sent one to my house
2014-07-30 19:13:24 <Josh Garza> For may last birthday
2014-07-30 19:13:27 <Josh Garza> My
2014-07-30 19:13:51 <Jacob Wheeling> Nice present!
2014-07-30 19:13:56 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Definitely
2014-07-30 19:14:04 <Josh Garza> Have not talk to him in over a month
2014-07-30 19:14:23 <Josh Garza> Well, besides text
2014-07-30 19:14:34 <Josh Garza> But he is not a guy to keep bothering
2014-07-30 19:15:14 <unknown_100345444655821864408> That is cool.
2014-07-30 19:15:20 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am a bit jealous.
2014-07-30 19:15:38 <Josh Garza> Don't be, he just like anyone else
2014-07-30 19:15:44 <Josh Garza> Just smarter lol
2014-07-30 19:15:59 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I would love to meet him.
2014-07-30 19:16:13 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am not somebody who likes famous people but I would like to shake his hand
2014-07-30 19:16:47 <Josh Garza> You can, he is pretty easy to access
2014-07-30 19:17:01 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Brb
2014-07-30 19:20:06 <Jacob Wheeling> That's pretty cool!
2014-07-30 19:21:02 <Jacob Wheeling> So you also run a Internet company Josh?
2014-07-30 19:22:49 <Josh Garza> Among other things
Hahhaha Josh got patents on Tesla..... Which makes me curious. We know he's a lying pos but what is he background? Or he hid that completely? He sounds too dumb to have any technical degree like engineering... he is a high school drop out |
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Bullshit, you'll never erase the evidence even if your boy tries denying it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=397293Fuck you ccn. Scott Fargo does not longer write for CCN due to circumstances like these. It's unacceptable. We do not accept behavior like this. Yo, Joe, send another 20,000 XPY to my Cryptsy account bro! Gotta get ready for some major league dumping on these fucking fools muggles tonight. YeeehAW!    Been reading up on the various shills, too. Myself and others wondered whether Victor Vargas on Hashtalk was real or a sockpuppet. Turns out he is real, and in real deep, hence the incessant GO GO Paycoin shilling.  Ran into lots of exchanges from Scott Fargo. Mostly asking to give Josh the questions before an "interview" so he could choose which questions were ok to ask and cook up an answers to those that he chose, sending drafts of articles to Josh to get "approved", general idolization of his scamdog hero Homero etc.       Also, FWIW, the date format issue was brought up by the Paycoined as "proof" that the Emails are fake. Never mind that Homero admits that they are in fact real. It turns out that the Mbox viewer I am using has an option for the date format, and the default setting is Euro-style format of the date i.e.: day/month/year.  This viewer works good, if anyone needs one. Allows you to view the Mbox files as they appeared when sent. I tried the "freeMboxviewer", and some things work better, BUT it gets stuck when scanning the huge files and crashes. This one does not. I am painting today, and a bit messy, but more Homero blatant dumpage proof is coming Forthwith™ |
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Snipe85 Pretty funny the lamest cunts on the internet with their responses, should get a refund you fucking losers. 
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What nonsensical garbage. He sold "securities" the second he sold those blades without the hardware to back them up. Basically everything from that until HashStakers was a security. He was selling shares in a revenue-generating enterprise. Dot. Since the purchaser puts his own coin in, HashStakers could conceivably be defined as leasing wallet space and taking a share of the staking yield as payment in addition to the initial cost. But every hosted equipment sale from the switch to VIRTUAL (said it) onward and every hashlet sale is the sale of a security. Until the email leak, I kind of thought that only Zen Solos and Primes were securities. Nope. All of them are. There's no way to define what was sold as anything but securitization of something, be it mining operations, open market trading, the sale of new securities, or whatever. How else would you define, say, a Vaultbreaker? |
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