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January 31, 2015, 07:07:11 PM
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Has anyone performed a stylometric analysis of the initial Bitcoin core against code published by the usual suspects?  Are there any code samples out there attributed to Szabo?

Tool: https[Suspicious link removed]l.edu/index.php/JStylo-Anonymouth

I don't think szabo wrote the code. I think someone helped him "code one up" if you know what i mean!



I think the code along with bitcoin was likely written/created by more than one person. Bitcoin just seems like a community effort from the start.

I think we came to a good consensus in this thread that BitCoin was mostly created in the comment sections of the "Nanobarter", "BitGold" & "BitGold-Markets" blogs. What happened in private emails and Meet-ups may never be known. Szabo & Zooko or maybe Jim McCoy? We may never know. IMHO...Nick Szabo's "BitGold" and Hal Finney's "RPOW" along with Jim McCoys "MojoNation" and Adam Back's "HashCash" made all this possible in one way or another. They had dedicated their lives since at least 1993 to bring p2p anonymous digital currency to us.
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2007/06/nanobarter.html?m=1
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html?m=1
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2008/04/bit-gold-markets.html?m=1



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Read:"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." ~ George Orwell
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January 31, 2015, 08:07:45 PM
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Now is final days to buy cheap coins  Cool
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February 06, 2015, 09:56:22 PM
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Now is final days to buy cheap coins  Cool

Final days? what makes you say that?
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February 07, 2015, 07:24:35 AM
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Now is final days to buy cheap coins  Cool

Final days? what makes you say that?
The next 24 hours is critical! Wait, when did this turn into a speculation thread? Oh yeah, it's speculation about something else.  Cool

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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February 07, 2015, 06:56:08 PM
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probabilistic Byzantine consensus (sometimes also called Nakamoto  consensus)

Who the hell calls it Nakamoto consensus?! Nobody ever until now!

Bonus points: double-space!

Szabo is fucking with us...

FWIW, among Cryptologists the block chain is known as the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol".  It's now a well-studied approach to the Byzantine Generals Problem.

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February 07, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
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FWIW, among Cryptologists the block chain is known as the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol".  It's now a well-studied approach to the Byzantine Generals Problem.
It is now, but it never was before he launched Bitcoin.
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February 07, 2015, 08:40:40 PM
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FWIW, among Cryptologists the block chain is known as the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol".  It's now a well-studied approach to the Byzantine Generals Problem.
It is now, but it never was before he launched Bitcoin.

Well, obviously not.  Bitcoin's whitepaper and code are treated pretty much exactly the same as a paper and code presented at a conference by any cryptographer.  They've picked it up just as though it were an academic publication,  and attached his name to it.

I'm saying, it's not at all surprising for somebody with any connection to the cryptography community, writing any time since its publication just before the beginning of 2009, to refer to a "Nakamoto Consensus" or to the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol." 
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February 07, 2015, 08:52:17 PM
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FWIW, among Cryptologists the block chain is known as the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol".  It's now a well-studied approach to the Byzantine Generals Problem.
It is now, but it never was before he launched Bitcoin.

Well, obviously not.  Bitcoin's whitepaper and code are treated pretty much exactly the same as a paper and code presented at a conference by any cryptographer.  They've picked it up just as though it were an academic publication,  and attached his name to it.

I'm saying, it's not at all surprising for somebody with any connection to the cryptography community, writing any time since its publication just before the beginning of 2009, to refer to a "Nakamoto Consensus" or to the "Nakamoto Consensus Protocol." 
What is your opinion on the fact that Satoshi writes in the same style as Szabo and unlike any of the other known identities around the crypto community?
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February 07, 2015, 09:43:56 PM
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I don't have an opinion about that.
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February 09, 2015, 04:55:51 AM
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What is your opinion on the fact that Satoshi writes in the same style as Szabo and unlike any of the other known identities around the crypto community?

What is all your opinion that John Nash writes in the same way Szabo and Satoshi does:
http://sites.stat.psu.edu/~babu/nash/money.pdf
Quote from: Ideal Money
quasi-doctrine
consid-erations
util-ity
longer-term
multi-dimensional
cen-tury
NON-LINEAR
non-linear
game-theoretic
speak-ing
op-erating
non-European
non-typical

Also has every single MO of Satoshi and Szabo, and interestingly enough has been touring the world for the last 20 years talking about bitcoin and what it is going to do to the Keynesian banking system.

Am I still to believe, after all this...that each of you  believes that Thomas Edison invented bitcoin?

Also  perhaps this is too far but is there a face behind Szabo's twitter picture?



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February 09, 2015, 11:32:24 AM
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What is all your opinion that John Nash writes in the same way Szabo and Satoshi does
A good one.
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February 09, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
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What is all your opinion that John Nash writes in the same way Szabo and Satoshi does
A good one.
Maybe Thomas Edison created bitcoin! http://topinfopost.com/2014/03/20/bitcoin-the-digital-currency-invented-by-thomas-edison
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February 09, 2015, 08:01:25 PM
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maybe satoshi is a banana!
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February 09, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
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Or perhaps a small offduty Czechoslovakian traffic warden?
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February 09, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
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Now is final days to buy cheap coins  Cool

probably a few more days, before they take it away from you.

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February 09, 2015, 11:14:43 PM
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Ray, the earliest version of the pre-release code I've found is dated 11/15/08, a couple weeks after Satoshi's post. Did someone else from the list put it together, or was he the direct author?
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February 09, 2015, 11:29:41 PM
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The November 2008 code is directly from Satoshi.  He posted to the crypto list.  Hal Finney and I were discussing it with him, and he sent us that archive in mid November.  I forwarded the Archive to Sergio Lerner and posted it here a few years later.

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February 10, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
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We need to bring back Kubrik to life so he can make a movie about all of this.
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February 10, 2015, 02:40:06 PM
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We need to bring back Kubrik to life so he can make a movie about all of this.
"Room 237 - to the Moon"

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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February 10, 2015, 07:09:23 PM
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We need to bring back Kubrik to life so he can make a movie about all of this.
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