My jaw is still on the floor.

[Gleb Gamow]

Jody Drake raises chickens.

Nick Szabo's brother raises rabbits.

Want to know who Nick's brother is? It'll cost you a quarter - per clue!   (Always thinkin' on how to make bank, just like Bryan Micon)

First clue is free. He resides in a Midwest state where many famous astronauts call home.

Second clue: His name is the same as one of my living uncles on my dad's side of the family, and rhymes with a certain Liechtenstein jingle [in their pockets].

[TippingPoint]

Time to ask some basic Nick Szabo questions.

Who has been in the same room with "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?

I can only think of one person that claims to have met him in person: Vitalik from Ethereum.  Any others?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/

"I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person."

I think the evidence is stronger that Romana Machado, Geoff Dale, David Gordon, and Russell Whitaker have met Nick Szabo in person.

It is worth mentioning that Romana Machado wrote the steganography program Stego, a steganography tool that enables you to embed data in Macintosh PICT format files, without changing the appearance or size of the PICT file. Thus, Stego can be used as an "envelope" to hide a previously encrypted data file in a PICT file, making it much less likely to be detected.

David Gordon had an email address from japan
dgordon@crow.omni.co.jp                   (David Gordon)
listed on the same life extension directory page as Nick Szabo
szabo@techbook.com                        (Nick Szabo)
and Hal Finney
ghsvax!hal@uunet.UU.NET                   (Hal Finney)
http://www.newsdemon.com/newsgroup-info/sci.life-extension

[Gleb Gamow]

Time to ask some basic Nick Szabo questions.

Who has been in the same room with "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?

I can only think of one person that claims to have met him in person: Vitalik from Ethereum.  Any others?

http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2jk637/gav_i_have_a_question_nick_szabo/

"I spoke with him a couple of times, including in person."

I think the evidence is stronger that Romana Machado, Geoff Dale, David Gordon, and Russell Whitaker have met Nick Szabo in person.

It is worth mentioning that Romana Machado wrote the steganography program Stego, a steganography tool that enables you to embed data in Macintosh PICT format files, without changing the appearance or size of the PICT file. Thus, Stego can be used as an "envelope" to hide a previously encrypted data file in a PICT file, making it much less likely to be detected.

David Gordon had an email address from japan
dgordon@crow.omni.co.jp                   (David Gordon)
listed on the same life extension directory page as Nick Szabo
szabo@techbook.com                        (Nick Szabo)
and Hal Finney
ghsvax!hal@uunet.UU.NET                   (Hal Finney)
http://www.newsdemon.com/newsgroup-info/sci.life-extension

Hold on there, dude! I found Nick's brother (rhymes with franc) and I'm tryin' to make a clad or two, hence the selling of clues. I possess where Nick declares his brother a rabbit raiser in the state of O... (that's all the free clues I'm giving). BTW, they're a Flemish breed, if that makes any difference.



Unless you're capable of finding an active site on the internet by a dude whose first name rhymes with franc, has the same last name as Nick's, resides in a state that starts with the letter O where a many astronauts hail from, and raises a certain Flemish breed of rabbits, then I demand a quarter for the URL of the above.  

[cinnamon_carter]

Guys please ,  see this and chill http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

[HCLivess]

I think it is quite clear that Szabo is the inventor of BitCoin.

[Gleb Gamow]

Guys please ,  see this and chill http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

To: jamie@netcom.com (Jamie Dinkelacker)
Subject: Re: on anonymity, identity, reputation, and spoofing
From: szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 3:29:08 PDT
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <9310180737.AA14508@netcom.netcom.com>; from "Jamie Dinkelacker" at Oct 18, 93 12:37 am

Sponsorship by the True Name via
an anonymous reputation market (like HEx, but securely anonymous and
perhaps tied to futures on the pseudonym's declared income), might
be quite useful.  (For information on the HEx market, send
mail to hex@sea.east.sun.com with the subject line "commands").

http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.2Q01/3152.html

Date: Tue, 05 Oct 93 00:10:03 EDT
From: The Hawthorne Exchange <hex@sea.east.sun.com>
Subject: Nightly Market Report

The Hawthorne Exchange - HEx Nightly Market Report
For more information on HEx, send email to HEx@sea.east.sun.com
with the Subject info.
News Summary as of: Tue Oct 5 00:10:02 EDT 1993
Newly Registered Reputations:

PGP   Phil Zimmermann Defense Fund
AMARA   Amara Graps

I thought I'd write about the last four years, an eventful time for Bitcoin and me.

For those who don't know me, I'm Hal Finney. I got my start in crypto working on an early version of PGP, working closely with Phil Zimmermann. When Phil decided to start PGP Corporation, I was one of the first hires. I would work on PGP until my retirement. At the same time, I got involved with the Cypherpunks. I ran the first cryptographically based anonymous remailer, among other activities.

Fast forward to late 2008 and the announcement of Bitcoin. I've noticed that cryptographic graybeards (I was in my mid 50's) tend to get cynical. I was more idealistic; I have always loved crypto, the mystery and the paradox of it.

When Satoshi announced Bitcoin on the cryptography mailing list, he got a skeptical reception at best. Cryptographers have seen too many grand schemes by clueless noobs. They tend to have a knee jerk reaction.

I was more positive. I had long been interested in cryptographic payment schemes. Plus I was lucky enough to meet and extensively correspond with both Wei Dai and Nick Szabo, generally acknowledged to have created ideas that would be realized with Bitcoin. I had made an attempt to create my own proof of work based currency, called RPOW. So I found Bitcoin facinating.

When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

After a few days, bitcoin was running pretty stably, so I left it running. Those were the days when difficulty was 1, and you could find blocks with a CPU, not even a GPU. I mined several blocks over the next days. But I turned it off because it made my computer run hot, and the fan noise bothered me. In retrospect, I wish I had kept it up longer, but on the other hand I was extraordinarily lucky to be there at the beginning. It's one of those glass half full half empty things.

The next I heard of Bitcoin was late 2010, when I was surprised to find that it was not only still going, bitcoins actually had monetary value. I dusted off my old wallet, and was relieved to discover that my bitcoins were still there. As the price climbed up to real money, I transferred the coins into an offline wallet, where hopefully they'll be worth something to my heirs.

Speaking of heirs, I got a surprise in 2009, when I was suddenly diagnosed with a fatal disease. I was in the best shape of my life at the start of that year, I'd lost a lot of weight and taken up distance running. I'd run several half marathons, and I was starting to train for a full marathon. I worked my way up to 20+ mile runs, and I thought I was all set. That's when everything went wrong.

My body began to fail. I slurred my speech, lost strength in my hands, and my legs were slow to recover. In August, 2009, I was given the diagnosis of ALS, also called Lou Gehrig's disease, after the famous baseball player who got it.

ALS is a disease that kills moter neurons, which carry signals from the brain to the muscles. It causes first weakness, then gradually increasing paralysis. It is usually fatal in 2 to 5 years. My symptoms were mild at first and I continued to work, but fatigue and voice problems forced me to retire in early 2011. Since then the disease has continued its inexorable progression.

Today, I am essentially paralyzed. I am fed through a tube, and my breathing is assisted through another tube. I operate the computer using a commercial eyetracker system. It also has a speech synthesizer, so this is my voice now. I spend all day in my power wheelchair. I worked up an interface using an arduino so that I can adjust my wheelchair's position using my eyes.

It has been an adjustment, but my life is not too bad. I can still read, listen to music, and watch TV and movies. I recently discovered that I can even write code. It's very slow, probably 50 times slower than I was before. But I still love programming and it gives me goals. Currently I'm working on something Mike Hearn suggested, using the security features of modern processors, designed to support "Trusted Computing", to harden Bitcoin wallets. It's almost ready to release. I just have to do the documentation.

And of course the price gyrations of bitcoins are entertaining to me. I have skin in the game. But I came by my bitcoins through luck, with little credit to me. I lived through the crash of 2011. So I've seen it before. Easy come, easy go.

That's my story. I'm pretty lucky overall. Even with the ALS, my life is very satisfying. But my life expectancy is limited. Those discussions about inheriting your bitcoins are of more than academic interest. My bitcoins are stored in our safe deposit box, and my son and daughter are tech savvy. I think they're safe enough. I'm comfortable with my legacy.
[edited slightly]

[Gleb Gamow]

Guys please ,  see this and chill http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

And, this is where this thread morphs to the opening of some The Big Szabo Theory episode.

https://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/squish.hoax

SUSPECTED ACCOMPLICES (SMALL FRIES)
===

1  Steve Klingsporn <moofie@apple.com>
2  Geoff Dale <plaz@netcom.com>

  Klingsporn and Dale are housemates and were involved in the defense
  of the known tentacle szabo@netcom.com. Dale appears to have close
  ties to the  T.C.May Big Mac. Klingsporn has some knowledge but is
  mostly uninvolved.


SUSPECTED FAKE ADDRESSES (SNAKES AND TENTACLES)
===

5  Caleb@sidefx.sidefx.com

  A Canadian tentacle and infiltration site of T.C.May's. No
  prominent profile known.

6  Jamie Dinkelacker <jamie@netcom.com>

  Not particularly interesting any more either except that he has a
  phone number and has close ties to T.C.May. In fact, very likely he
  is a T.C.May tentacle. Very arrogant, obnoxious, and cruel.
  Delights in torture. Puerile threats.

7  Matthew B. Landry <mbl@ml7694a.leonard.american.edu>

  Landry has a telephone number in Washington, and supposedly goes to
  school there. He is a suspected T.C.May tentacle. He has posted to
  the Cypherpunks list in the past. He is highly dangerous and will
  tell lies to gain sympathy or credibility and then betray later.
  Not particularly interesting any more but was involved in some
  extremely grotesque inbreeding with T.C.May on the cypherpunks
  list.

8  Peter Bachman <pbachman@skidmore.EDU>

  P.Bachman has contributed to the Society for Electronic Access list
  and others. He is actually a tentacle. Maybe a P.Metzger snake.
  Most disturbingly he has infiltrated RISKS.

9  Nick Collision <mathew@mantis.co.uk>

  Nick Collision has also infiltrated RISKS. A tentacle, but unknown
  origin-- possibly a T.C.May snake. Supposedly lives in the United
  Kingdom somewhere but refuses to comment specifically or give a
  phone number. Edits the alt.atheist FAQ (atheism is another classic
  Cyberanarchist philosophy). If Collision is a proven tentacle, the
  cyberanarchist infiltration is provably international in scope,
  with fake domain fronts. No known jobs have ever been performed
  by the `software consultants' at mantis.co.uk.

10  Arthur Chandler <arthurc@crl.com>

  On the Future Culture list and Cypherpunks. probably an E.Hughes
  tentacle. This may be a wedge into discovering credit or SMTP
  software manipulations by Cypherpunks.

11  Greg Broiles <greg@ideath.goldenbear.com>

  Probably a snake of Medusa. Has intimate knowledge of fake email
  address use, knows about customized software, and has bizarre
  Cyberanarchist  theories relating to human punishment. Strong
  knowledge of Macintosh software and hardware.

12  Eli Brandt <ebrandt@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>

  Definitely has high level knowledge of the Big Macs and Medusa.
  Probably an E.Hughes tentacle. Once wrote, `I AM MEDUSA,
  CONTROLLER OF ALL TENTACLES'.

13  Paul Ferguson <ferguson@icm1.icp.net>

  Another highly dangerous tentacle. Known to steal resumes. One of
  the Washington sites besides M.Landry. Known to have posted
  cyberanarchist propaganda on the PEM development list.

14  Nick Szabo <szabo@netcom.com>

  The Szabo tentacle is one of the most persistent of all. Even after
  being exposed the `mother monster' continues to post, because a
  fairly significant reputation investment has been established under
  the name. Has strong interest in digital cash. Has admitted to
  knowledge of fake name use. Probably a T.C.May tentacle.

15  Hal Finney <hfinney@shell.portal.com>

  Finney is either a tentacle or an accomplice. If he is a tentacle he
  is the most treasured one of all. Involved in the defense of the
  jamie@netcom.com tentacle. Possibly an E.Hughes snake. Supposedly
  has contributed significant code to anonymous remailers and
  Zimmermann's PGP. (If he is a tentacle, Zimmermann has been
  fooled.) May even be Medusa's snake.


          * THOUSANDS OF CONTESTANTS * HUGE CASH PRIZES *
         * FASCINATING DISCOVERIES * HEDONISTIC DELIGHTS *
       * FANTASTIC FUN FOR EVERYONE * GROTESQUE PERVERSIONS *


SUSPECTED ASSOCIATES (MEDUSA'S SISTERS)
===

20  Jim McCoy <mccoy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>

  A `nerdy' cyberanarchist who does things such as sleep in his
  clothes. Close ties to D.Barnes in Texas. They are working on their
  own digital bank in competition and cooperation with CA
  cyphrepunks. Longtime Usenet poster. Knowledgeable on the most
  serious subversive activities.

21  Doug Barnes <cman@io.com>

  D.Barnes is a lackey for Big Macs and Medusa. He may attack
  postmasters and coworkers at participating SQUISH player sites.
  Sysadmin of the io.com site. Introduced to fake addresses by
  E.Hughes.

22  Perry Metzger <pmetzger@lehman.com>

  Metzger is the pit bull of the Internet. He has perfected the
  cyberspatial ad hominem attack. He has close ties to all the Big
  Macs and is probably aware of who Medusa is. His own tentacles and
  snakes are minor in comparison. Likes the mailbomb as a threat and
  attack. Probably involved in anonymous phone threats.

23  Bill Stewart <wcs@anchor.ho.att.com>

  This is a very dangerous insider, who has close affiliations with
  the Big Macs and a prestigious job at AT&T. Has claimed to have
  seen  known tentacles and snakes at Cypherpunk parties and even
  seen their driver's licenses. Classic cyberanarchist propaganda
  outlet.


SUSPECTED LEADERS (BIG MACS)
===

25  Stanton McCandlish <mech@eff.org>

  Probably on the secret cypherpunk development lists. Maybe
  knowledgeable about deceptions by other Big Macs. EFF online
  activist. Definite cyberanarchist apologist and sympathizer.

26  John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>

  Cyberanarchist, built up Cygnus support. Admitted drug user.
  Probable snake charmer. Generally more ethical and moral than other
  Big Macs. May be a wedge into them.

27  T.C.May <tcmay@netcom.com>

  Close personal friend of E.Hughes. Worked for Intel and is a
  millionaire in stock values. May be financing the major
  international fake address  infrastructure. Probably manipulating
  dozens of tentacles. May have hired actors and forged drivers
  license to defend tentacles.



SUSPECTED MASTERMIND (MEDUSA)
===

40  Eric Hughes <hughes@soda.berkeley.edu> <hughes@ah.com>

  Hughes is probably the mastermind of all major tentacle
  manipulations on the Internet. Has bizarre theories about human
  punishment and law enforcement. Denies any involvement. May be
  involved in illegal credit scanning. Interested in black
  marketeering, money laundering, etc. Very terse in all mail.
  Refuses to comment on all areas. Extremely dangerous. Has
  personally established many of the corrupt sites particularly in
  WA, CA, and TX.

"The idea of `spawning identities' for `psychological exploration,
sociological experiments or sexual thrills' repulses me."

[kingscrown]

just to remind you some big research saying shado = satoshi = nash

http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

[Flashman]

Fuck me, I "eKnow" at least 2 names on that list. Wish I'd seen that years ago actually.

[Gleb Gamow]

The links provided here may be of interest: http://web.archive.org/web/19970607174128/http://www.best.com/~szabo/

Nick Szabo

Smart Contract & Internet Commerce articles:

Distributing Authorities and Verifying Their Claims Trust no one (who writes for "The X-Files").
Delegation and Agreement Based Policy Who we trust is not as important as what we do and don't trust them with.
Smart Contracts Paper and much else physical are giving way to software as a legal medium.
Smart Contracts Glossary A guide to the perplexed.
Multinational Small Business All barriers have fallen except the legal ones -- could they be next?
The Mental Accounting Barrier to Micropayments A big misunderstanding in Internet commerce.
Credit with Privity The big unsolved problem.
Negative Reputations Blacklisting is back...
Privacy Marketing ...but it can often be avoided.

From the Usenet FAQ
The most precious resource of the information age is a deep diversity where minds think differently, yet tolerantly, and where originality is highly prized when it works. I hope you enjoy both the old, reliable and new, unique ideas described herein. My Introduction to Algorithmic Information Theory covers an exciting new synthesis of computer science and information theory. A related field in philosophy is hermeneutics, the study of messages from the past. The most important of these messages are the highly compressed experiences and lessons of millions of lifetimes available from deep law. Smart Contracts are a new way to think about public network security and business relationships. Multinational Small Business examines an institution whose global importance is expanding rapidly.

Among my interests are Internet Commerce, Software & Computer Science, and Information Security.

Take a stroll thru Wirtual Wien!

My worldview draws heavily from the scientific method, including theoretical and personal applied science.

I enjoy feedback. Send your comments to szabo@netcom.com

My public key.

[Gleb Gamow]

Time to ask some basic Nick Szabo questions.

Was "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo a member of the Extropians who met in Cupertino?
    Subject: Party with the Nextropians! at Nexus-Lite!
    From: plaz@netcom.com (Geoff Dale)
    Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:40:48 -0800
    Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com

         MEET THE NEXTROPIANS: WE ARE HERE AND NOW AMONG YOU
__________________________________________________________________________
Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker
When: Saturday, March 12, 1994, 7.p.m (after the Cypherpunks meeting, until
an indeterminate time on the following day)
Where: 21090 Grenola Drive, Cupertino CA
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/02/msg01429.html

Did "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo write How to Protect Your Electronic Privacy, Portland 1993?
https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto/?f=privacy_szabo.paper.txt

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the former mayor of Cupertino?

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the one born in 1930, graduate of UC Berkeley, resident of Silicon Valley (Cupertino), employed at Lockheed, Link-Singer, and KLA?  Wife named Marcia?
http://www.faireconomy.org/files/pdf/notalonereportfinal.pdf

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the holder of these patents?
http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Szabo-Nicholas/7231849

Did "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo know Hal Finney since 1993?
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo this 84 year old guy in Cupertino?
http://radaris.com/~Nicholas-Szabo/223526343

Is "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo the son "Andrew Nicholas Szabo" of the old guy in Cupertino, now living in Madison, WI?
http://radaris.com/~Andrew-Szabo/178052517

Where are the photos of "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?

Who has been in the same room with "our" (cryptography) Nick Szabo?
Romana Machado? - Geoff Dale? - David Gordon?  - Russell Whitaker?

Why didn't Satoshi cite Nick Szabo's bit gold in his whitepaper?
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2005/12/bit-gold.html

In Jan 2 1993, when Nick Szabo wrote "In my limited experience creating Internet pseudonyms, I’ve been quite distracted by the continual need to avoid leaving pointers to my True Name lying around — excess mail to/from my True Name, shared files, common peculiarities (eg misspellings in written text), traceable logins, etc." what pseudonyms had he already used?
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html

What was the result of Nick Szabo writing in 2008 "... would greatly benefit from a demonstration, an experimental market (with e.g. a trusted third party substituted for the complex security that would be needed for a real system). Anybody want to help me code one up?" (seven months before the release of Bitcoin)

Who was the "eddie" who first used the term "bit coin" on Szabo's blog?

What did Nick Szabo mean by the statement, [These comments edit and add to comments of mine under previous blog post(s)]?  Was the "eddie" comment originally made somewhere else?

How many Nick Szabos could live in Cupertino, and how many would it take to screw in a lightbulb?

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=4472

X-Message-Number: 4472
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:40:31 -0800
From: carols@shell.portal.com (Carol Shaw)
Subject: Alcor North CA Cryonics Mtg. Sunday June 11

The next Alcor Northern California cryonics meeting will be held on Sunday,
June 11, 1995. All members and guests are welcome to attend.

The schedule is:

4:00 PM          Business meeting chaired by Russell Whitaker
around 6:00 PM   Potluck supper and socializing

Location:        Russell Whitaker's home, an Extropian Nexus
                 21090 Grenola Drive
                 Cupertino, California

Telephone:       408-388-7261

Directions:      Take Highway 85 to the Stevens Creek Blvd. exit (just
south of Highway 280). Go east on Stevens Creek. Turn left (north) on
Stelling. Take the third left on Hazelbrook. Take the first right on Flora
Vista. Take the second left on Grenola Drive.

Alcor Northern California meetings are held on the second Sunday of each month.

Carol Shaw
carols@shell.portal.com
http://www.portal.com/~carols/carolshomepage.html


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"To da moon!"

Don't make me dig up early references to Cryonics by Hal.

On the other hand, Cryonics mentions by Nick Szabo...

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=2517

X-Message-Number: 2517
From: szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo)
Subject: CRYONICS: Good research to fund
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:01:24 -0800 (PST)


Stephen J. Van Sickle:
> I would like to pose a question.  Given the current state of the art, what
> is the most promising avenue of research given a limited budget (no more
> than 200,000 to 300,000 dollars)? 

The best use for this level of funding might be to enable
cryonics-aware cryobiologists like Dr. Greg Fahy to target
cryonics-specific neuropreservation problems.  It also might
be quite valuable to fund grad student cryobiologists,
and target cryobiology students with focused outreach.  Develop
a larger, smarter, and more cryonics-freindly group of young
cryobiologists to improve the cryonics state of the art over the
coming decades.

We might not have funding available at the moment for this, but
research into the theoretical applied science of reanimation
(nanotechnology, biotechnology, brain research, etc.), to come up
with feasible, if currently unmanufacturable, designs for cell repair
machines, would give us more confident estimates of the feasibility
of cryonics, and also guide current cryonics techniques in terms
of determining which brain structures and chemicals are the
most and least important targets for preseveration.  Greg Fahy
has done some interesting thinking in this area, on top of his
prolific organ preservation work.

If I had donor $$$ of any significance, I'd divide them evenly
between the Foresight Institute (targeting specifically
cell repair machine design) and cryonics-freindly cryobiology
research.

Nick Szabo            szabo@netcom.com

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[Gleb Gamow]

I wonder what Nick's brother is up to now-a-days.

I am obviously new to this forum  ...  and to Bitcoin.  I had heard a great deal about Bitcoin while still in the states, but never really understood.  It took me moving to Chile to find a great presentation by Adam Stradling and company.

We are developing a sustainable community for ex-pats just outside of the great city of Santiago, Chile.  It is called Freedom Orchard and will include organic working farms which can be purchased for passive investment.

The best part (for this forum) is that we will be accepting Bitcoin!  If you are concerned about the direction of things in the northern hemisphere, protecting your assets now has more options.

To find out more, we created a ten minute virtual tour; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIlCrJ1OTz0.  For those time-disadvantaged souls, we have a 50 second video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrrI8JQiT9s.

Our website is www.FreedomOrchard.com.  We also have a FaceBook page (https://www.facebook.com/FreedomOrchardInChile) with more up-to-date information.

http://projectnovaeuropa.com/new-settlement-for-north-american-and-european-ex-pats-seeking-freedom-launched-in-chile/

The settlement is centered around a housing and organic farm development north of Curacaví, Chile, and 45 minutes west of Santiago. The principal behind the project is Frank Szabo, formerly deeply involved with the Ron Paul campaigns in the US and who later ran a sheriff campaign in Maine which drew national media attention.

According to an email Szabo sent out this week to supporters, he said it has “been a long time since I was involved with the 2008 Ron Paul campaign in Pa. So much has happened in our country. I can’t say that it’s all been for the better.

“In 2011, I moved to New Hampshire, as part of the Free State Project, with the intention to start an organic farm. It became very clear very quickly that I could build the most wonderful farm and some bureaucrat could destroy it with the stroke of a pen.

“When my “last option” to make a real difference fell through, I followed the lead of my grandfather, from almost 100 years ago. I left my homeland for greener pastures. I am now living with my wife and daughter in Chile.

[TippingPoint]

Nick Szabo, a retired executive of a multinational high-tech company, has a doctorate in electrical engineering from UC Berkeley and is a former mayor of Cupertino.  He has served as a member of the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) for Export Control of the U.S. Department of Commerce.
March 2007
http://tian.greens.org/TASC/SzaboOnGovernment.html

[Gleb Gamow]

Nick Szabo, a retired executive of a multinational high-tech company, has a doctorate in electrical engineering from UC Berkeley and is a former mayor of Cupertino.  He has served as a member of the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) for Export Control of the U.S. Department of Commerce.
March 2007
http://tian.greens.org/TASC/SzaboOnGovernment.html

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jule-j-tasc-inc-szabo/89/727/994

[Flashman]

I've been racking my brains over the Squish post, representing as it does a who's who of "cyberanarchists" and prominent usenet posters. As I said, I was "list buddies" with a couple of them, just over half I recognise by notoriety/reputation. I was interested in fringe subjects, and with that connection made, realise I was moving in a lot of the same circles many of them were. I actually think I made a choice to stay out of the crypto circles back then though, I was outside the US and .gov was serious about crypto export controls at that time, I didn't want to get thrown off what systems I had access to, by incurring the attention/ire of US wrt to messing with crypto better than was allowed for export at the time (Which was pretty damn lame, so basically everything.)

Anyway, it's got me in deep thought about those days, I can't recall coming across Hal or Szabo, they were maybe in tighter circles around the crypto and cryo nodes. Although I say that, while realising that Szabo has been causing a slight itch in my brain since coming across his name wrt bitcoin, but I can't recover that connection if there is one.

Kinda wish I still had all my "archives" of the interactions I had back in the day, I can search of course but doesn't reconstruct the trains of thought and threads of consciousness, awareness of things, it's coming in cold.

[darkmule]

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery.

Interesting choice of words.  It could just be that, a choice of words.  But if taken literally, it implies it wasn't always a mystery, at least not to Hal.

I'd be amazed if he didn't know exactly who Satoshi was (or was Satoshi or one of the group himself).

[slaveforanunnak1]

Gavin must fucking know.
Good for him for keeping his mouth shut. Even though I wanna know who stoshi is/are, I don't want them to be outed.

[Flashman]

Even though I wanna know who stoshi is/are, I don't want them to be outed.

Hah, yah, I've got the "Don't really care, but it's a really interesting puzzle" thing going on.

[slaveforanunnak1]

Even though I wanna know who stoshi is/are, I don't want them to be outed.

Hah, yah, I've got the "Don't really care, but it's a really interesting puzzle" thing going on.

I just get really happy when I find a raging clue LOL

[xanderbelly]

Yes.  

The Kay Bell post on her web site in which she references a Nick Szabo academic paper is dated Tuesday, December 27, 2005
Our house is a very, very, very taxed house
http://dontmesswithtaxes.typepad.com/dont_mess_with_taxes/2005/12/our_house_is_a_.html

yet the Nick Szabo blog post on Bit Gold which contains a comment from Kay Bell is now dated Saturday, December 27, 2008

which indicates that something on the Szabo blog about Bit Gold was edited.

He posted Bitgold originally in 2005, but during fall/winter of 2008 was on hiatus from posting, and so was reposting earlier blog entries.