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January 30, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
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you asked questions , they were answered !!



Is that supposed to be a joke?


Here are the only answers so far:


#1 - What is the burn address for Findcoin?  
A FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn


The block explorers say that the address only has 100 coins.  




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#2 - What possible reason could you have for holding people's FindCoins for 30 days instead of burning them as you receive them?
A  Good question not sure why they are not sent every day i will find out why


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#3 - Are you staking FindCoins?
A No we don't stake any coins


False answer, he posted exchange addresses that have been staking.



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#4 - Have you sent any FindCoins to any other addresses after you received them?
A I will have to look in the Database to see if any have been sent out


Not an answer



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#5 - Why does your exchange show a trade of 58236.37353502 FIND which was sent in block 226766, but the receiving address FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots has never received any coins?
A  Don't know  why it would say that  !!


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#6 - Why does your exchange show multiple trades of FIND sent to 2 of what appear to be your addresses, when those transactions were not received from someone else but just sent from the same wallet to itself?
A  Going to need more information on that one sorry what address ?



It's not an answer to pretend like you are unaware of things that just appeared above in posts you quoted and responded to

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January 30, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
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This is a list off address on the exchange 
Address      DateCreated
FpPYdkzUnvNjdTpS6vmHn6oAwEcKvw7u1x   2016-01-01 06:27:46.803
Ft6mdDzEhgQ1FKjtsNpVR1m9gge38MpnMG   2016-01-01 06:27:51.203
FowEUrueyGrfZjjtVZnYQkwNvXeAkuFYAp   2016-01-02 00:36:18.663
FVQG3p8NtfkGEBiCUndSQsi5FVfyqBir4f   2016-01-02 00:36:23.253
FfwHT1NhBkNWjqLCdPVkUZVqmgoNYLJX1p   2016-01-16 07:58:41.163
Fjy8C99nxXn9QR77VHWYw4jVhDG3VEWmhH   2016-01-16 12:58:12.387
FXLmYAumohQyGphXRvif5eXgugp6StHd4C   2016-01-17 11:28:36.787
FhbxYgiCCyKadmyepVToCQNWMhP3wBdd7P   2016-01-21 13:52:50.613
FcbWKQRyaDeqzb4N3YA73P7vnNHYgKZZQZ   2016-01-22 08:39:10.847
FsMwxcAmCEF5YfVEvQLHrqd6a3cfcx5k2Y   2016-01-22 16:31:38.237
FW58xuwQtYShcTQ7KPxqyjSQiHMZP7E3cS   2016-01-22 19:55:52.067
Fp8sZwrH21PsU17XejEVwA1C533CQS5Dwd   2016-01-26 19:05:31.730
Fe2RL4zTDDK8GoxkHK3RcvnLLHK9fxxAuh   2016-01-26 19:05:39.047
FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots   2016-01-30 00:25:48.400




FpPYdkzUnvNjdTpS6vmHn6oAwEcKvw7u1x - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
Ft6mdDzEhgQ1FKjtsNpVR1m9gge38MpnMG    - Balance of .13 FIND, 5 transactions, 0 sent
FowEUrueyGrfZjjtVZnYQkwNvXeAkuFYAp - Balance of .011 FIND, 1 transaction, 0 sent
FVQG3p8NtfkGEBiCUndSQsi5FVfyqBir4f - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
FfwHT1NhBkNWjqLCdPVkUZVqmgoNYLJX1p - Balance of 14046.05329301 FIND, 686 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
Fjy8C99nxXn9QR77VHWYw4jVhDG3VEWmhH - Balance of 9647.50839652 FIND, 411 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FXLmYAumohQyGphXRvif5eXgugp6StHd4C - Balance of 93321.69123926 Find, 1051 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FhbxYgiCCyKadmyepVToCQNWMhP3wBdd7P - Balance of 2836.95831367 FIND, 93 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FcbWKQRyaDeqzb4N3YA73P7vnNHYgKZZQZ - Balance of 13517.64897957 FIND, 256 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FsMwxcAmCEF5YfVEvQLHrqd6a3cfcx5k2Y - Balance of 2753.03739791 FIND, 4 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
FW58xuwQtYShcTQ7KPxqyjSQiHMZP7E3cS - Balance of 129023.61645467 FIND, 2214 transactions, staking = true, 0 sent
Fp8sZwrH21PsU17XejEVwA1C533CQS5Dwd - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
Fe2RL4zTDDK8GoxkHK3RcvnLLHK9fxxAuh - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent
FXKLahV8uhruHY6zPsE1cYVGj67aTXVots - Balance of 0 FIND, 0 transactions, 0 sent



These are the current balances shown on both explorers.
None of these addresses show any sends to the burn address, or any sends at all other than PoS operations.

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January 30, 2016, 06:18:23 PM
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So far we have at least one deposit that went missing, other deposits which were credited by addresses sending to themselves, and we also have transactions which were sent to the burn address but never arrived.

If these transactions were all created by a custom wallet build, then there could be an error with malformed transactions that causes the blockchain to accept the transaction within a block but reject it when scanning addresses.

The transactions appear to be double-spent as staking operations - they're sent to an outside address, but also sent back to the sending address and staked.  And the balance ends up remaining in the sending address.

It would make sense for BTCPoolExchange to have custom wallet software, as most exchanges do.

But the first transaction came from an address that is assumed to be intristin's off-exchange wallet.

Are intristin and the exchange both using the same custom wallet that may have some altered code in regards to staking?


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January 30, 2016, 07:05:47 PM
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The blocks with the missing transactions always seem to be blocks that include stake modifiers. 

Maybe it's a coincidence, because there are only a few missing transactions to look at (and both missing sends to the burn address were included in the same block).

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January 30, 2016, 09:16:03 PM
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I've checked my findcoin debug.log after i've seen a lot of orphan in my transaction list.
I think the blockchain had a fork or was attacked, on 01/29 at 20:08 GMT my debug.log shows that my blockchain reorganize:
REORGANIZE
REORGANIZE: Disconnect blocks 300; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..42baf9bf84bd896a8476(block 226917)
REORGANIZE: Connect 45 blocks; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81(block 226662)
3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9 = block 226617 at 08:51 GMT (common chain)
6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81 = block 226662 at 20:08 GMT (new chain)
And if you look at the blockexplorer we see block 226618 was generated at 19:44 GMT
So every transaction made between the 01/29 at 8:51 GMT and 19:44 GMT are null

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January 31, 2016, 02:07:10 AM
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Your own block explorer that you're hosting at your own website says the coins are still in your address.

So does the block explorer at multifaucet:

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?address=FVhHfaR1U7KVkPanD9K8mC5SaJnuSLZbcX&blockexplorer=FIND




You deposited 58236.37353502 FindCoins at BTCPoolExchange, and you exchanged them for your own premined DGCS coins, and you still have the FindCoins in your wallet.

Those coins were supposed to be sent to a burn address, but the burn address is only holding 100 coins.

These are proven facts that everyone can see on the blockchain, so your screencaps mean nothing.




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January 31, 2016, 02:45:21 AM
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As waecrum pointed out, there is something funny going on with the block chain



I'm the one who pointed it out. 

You're the one who double-spent coins to an exchange, sold them, and still have the same coins in your address because the exchange never received them. 

And then you tried to deny it instead of acknowledging that something was wrong.

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January 31, 2016, 02:58:41 AM
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I've checked my findcoin debug.log after i've seen a lot of orphan in my transaction list.
I think the blockchain had a fork or was attacked, on 01/29 at 20:08 GMT my debug.log shows that my blockchain reorganize:
REORGANIZE
REORGANIZE: Disconnect blocks 300; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..42baf9bf84bd896a8476(block 226917)
REORGANIZE: Connect 45 blocks; 3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9(block 226617)..6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81(block 226662)
3ee2393e4814c1f6d8c9 = block 226617 at 08:51 GMT (common chain)
6bd3f383ff1b2d3f6d81 = block 226662 at 20:08 GMT (new chain)
And if you look at the blockexplorer we see block 226618 was generated at 19:44 GMT
So every transaction made between the 01/29 at 8:51 GMT and 19:44 GMT are null



The block explorer now has 577 confirmations for the double-spent coins intristin sent to the exchange that they never received.

intristin took his screencap when it only had 162 confirmations, which would be about 12 hours before he posted the screencap?  So maybe his wallet is fixed by now.

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January 31, 2016, 01:49:33 PM
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And now you're exchanging DGCS for FlozCoin, a scam ICO that just launched December 20th.

What percentage of FlozCoin is still held by the dev? 

Who is the Floz dev?

Have you planned this with the Floz dev?  (answer carefully)

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The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.



The burn address has only received 1 transaction from BTCPoolExchange, for 124,689 FIND.  But they still sent out the premined DGCS (mostly to you, intristin) in exchange for FindCoins that are still in your personal address. 

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&address=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn





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Please note that their was some sort of attack on the FINDcoin block chain which appears to have forked it somehow. This is causing the block explorers to display incorrect information. We are looking into getting that all sorted out and will let you know if and when we do.   



The block explorer shows what is on the blockchain.  Everyone's wallets on the same network have to agree.

Therefore, it's not the block explorer that's displaying incorrect information.  You are the one displaying incorrect information.

You say there was an attack, but the double-spend happened exactly when you sent your FindCoins to the BTCPoolExchange, exchanged them for DigitalCredits, and then still kept the FindCoins in your own address.  Which means you could still send them to YoBit to sell them after you've already sold them at BTCPoolExchange.

That's why you're supposed to use Proof of Burn, so it's proven that the coins can never be sold again.  But that's not what you're doing. 





And now you're exchanging FlozCoin, a scam ICO that just launched December 20th.  Who launched it?  Did you launch it yourself, or did you plan it with the Floz dev just to burn it the next month after it launched?

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January 31, 2016, 02:13:38 PM
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Just to clarify a few things:
Findcoin network has always been a bit shaky, especially with only 3 or 4 people keeping it alive.
I have seen this happen several times during the year (more than 5 times) and I think this is due to posv1 protocol that accumulates the coinage, so if a person with lots of old stacked coin (more than 100 split) start his wallet once every 1 or 2 months, and opens his wallet for staking before having finished downloading the entire blockchain a fork occurs. Dev Findcoin is no longer here and thus no more checkpoint and therefore fork.
I advise anyone who has made a transaction on 01/29 restart the daemon or qt with -rescan option (eg findcoin-qt.exe -rescan) to see if the coin are getting through or not.

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February 01, 2016, 09:34:36 PM
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The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.




449,479 FIND?

Let me guess how you got that figure - first, you added up the 3 transactions that never arrived:




DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   a86a6983ada8afa364d1a054a235bef4efd4b8530e52069a853e17bf26d281eb   2016-01-30 03:24:21.880   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   daccba3587afecb7b1c6bf4f327a5522ec57847ff42b2f0e715792c9769229cc   2016-01-30 03:25:11.893   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   124689.8   pending...   2016-01-30 03:26:11.890   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn






That's a total of 324,689.4, right?

And then they finally got the 124,689.8 to go through, right?

So you added 124,689.8 AGAIN.

And that equals 449,379.2.  And then you added the 100 coins you sent from your own address, so you're claiming the burn address has received 449,479.

But that's a lie, of course, since the block explorer says the burn address has only received a total of 124,789.8 - 1 transaction of 100.0, and 1 transaction of 124,689.8 (only once).

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&address=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn



You gave away a million premined coins for free (supposedly to other people besides yourself), but you couldn't even spend .1 BTC on FindCoins that you were supposed to be burning. 

You burned about .03 BTC worth of FindCoins, less than 1% of all FindCoins, and you gave yourself 100,000 premined DGCS for that?





Here's the part that proves you're either a crook or just too irresponsible to be a dev:



The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.



I've already shown how your figure of 449,479 came from adding the same transaction twice.  There were only 3 transactions, and you still couldn't keep up with them.

But even if that was an honest mistake on your part, how did you end up releasing 112,369 DGCS? 
449,479 X .25 = 112,369, and that's the exchange rate you were using.

But 449,479 is an error, right?  Just because you counted a transaction twice while attempting simple arithmetic, that doesn't make BTCPoolExchange put DGCS into someone's account.  Or does it?



Those are the facts, and here are the 2 possible conclusions:

#1 - You're embezzling public funds held in your trust
#2 - You're so negligent with the public funds held in your trust that you have no idea how many have been issued, or to whom


Which is it?

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February 02, 2016, 06:39:49 PM
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Update:

The Digital Credits dev is still holding FindCoins in his own address after those coins were double-spent and sold at BTCPoolExchange:

http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVhHfaR1U7KVkPanD9K8mC5SaJnuSLZbcX

(that's his own block explorer, here's another:)

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&address=FVhHfaR1U7KVkPanD9K8mC5SaJnuSLZbcX


And he's still claiming they burned FindCoins that are not actually in the burn address (and are still in their own addresses):

http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=FIND&address=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn



And he doesn't like me talking about it, so he started trying to dox me in C-Cex chat by posting people's facebook links, names, phone numbers, and street addresses that he thinks are mine.  And then for good measure he said I'm a "racest biggit" and that he's going to sue me for "salnder" and get half my paychecks for the next 20 years. 

...but he still didn't send the coins.

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February 04, 2016, 11:06:56 PM
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Update!

The FindCoin explorer hosted at dcredits is now showing the burn address with 324,789.4 FIND.
That's not 449,479, but it does account for the transactions BTCPoolExchange says they sent.

The Multifaucet explorer has not changed.  Hopefully it just needs to be re-synced, and isn't on a different chain from the one the dcredits explorer is on.  dcredits is supposed to take down their explorer anyway, so the "real" chain will be the one YoBit and/or Multifaucet is on.


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Barr_official has managed to alienate pretty much anyone who cares with his behaviour.
i assume anyone who cares enough is ignoring him and taking his posts as generally full of crap.

however he does raise a seemingly valid point regarding the discrepancy in burn figures.

as this does seem to be an issue, i am hoping to be a calm voice asking intrinsin if he can look at the figures and see what he can see.


The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned  

block explorer showing receipt of http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn

http://findcoin.dcredits.com/search.php?id=FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn




edit.
both the dcredits and multifaucets explorers are on the same chain now.
also yobit is on the same block height, so one assumes that there is only one official chain now which is the one with the burn.

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what seems to be the case.
intrinsin doesnt handle the swap, nor the funds, so he has nothing to do with it other than reporting figures from the exchange.

the chain was fucked, that's obvious, even Barr_official seems to have accepted that.
the explorers mis reported, but they seem all to agree now.

i assume even barr_official can be convinced that  any discrepancy has nothing to do with digital credits dev,  
digital credits uses a totally different approach swap approach to Barr so he might be too caught up in his own seriousness to the extent where the obvious hasnt yet occurred to him.
it didnt occur to me until just then, i was also far too distracted by the obvious hysteria . lol .

digital credits dev doesn't handle any of the swap, it's all done by the exchange.
anything he might have reported is NOT from his own figures/calculations.

which does mean if barr_official does want to continue making a fool of himself he needs to perhaps calm down first and consider what he's talking about.

then perhaps he can formulate a useful approach to his attack Cheesy
perhaps with less hate and he might get a useful answer.

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February 06, 2016, 10:08:01 AM
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any valid exchange for findcoin i have coins in my wallet since the first distribution , if yes please provide the working wallet + data file if possible for fast synchronizing .
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February 06, 2016, 12:01:28 PM
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no idea as to whether your coins are still valid,
i know not whether there have been any blockchain shenanigans to disrupt them.

but yobit is an exchange for FIND.

have a look on http://findcoin.dcredits.com/index.php
to see what it reports for your address

.edit
also see this post with a copy of the chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13676416#msg13676416

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February 06, 2016, 01:45:32 PM
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what seems to be the case.
intrinsin doesnt handle the swap, nor the funds, so he has nothing to do with it other than reporting figures from the exchange.


He tests the burn address from his own wallet rather than the exchange doing it, they take his word, he tells them when to burn the coins (instead of burning them as they come in), he tells them when to extend the exchange period because he bought more coins.

He tells them which coins to exchange, he tells them the exchange rate to set, and they trust the block explorer he runs on his own website.

And he still holds 194 million coins from the premine. 

So he does handle the funds.




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the chain was fucked, that's obvious, even Barr_official seems to have accepted that.


I'm the one who pointed it out in the first place.

intristin is the one who denied that there was a problem.




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the explorers mis reported, but they seem all to agree now.


After I brought it to their attention.




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digital credits dev doesn't handle any of the swap, it's all done by the exchange.
anything he might have reported is NOT from his own figures/calculations.


I've just shown mathematically that it IS from his own incorrect calculations, and different from what the exchange reported.  Since he refuses to clarify, where are you getting your information?




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Barr_official has managed to alienate pretty much anyone who cares with his behaviour.
i assume anyone who cares enough is ignoring him and taking his posts as generally full of crap.


You left out the relevant fact that I banned you from our ANN for trolling.

So you don't really assume that everyone ignores me, since you yourself couldn’t stop responding to my every post until you were forcibly prevented from it.

And now you're suddenly interested in FindCoin, coincidentally giving you more chances to not ignore me.

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