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July 09, 2013, 01:43:06 PM
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https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?

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July 09, 2013, 01:43:44 PM
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Меритократию, если точнее.  В отрыве от происходящего это было бы интересным экспериментом, сейчас же это единственно возможная форма правления для нашего "государства". Демократия для него была бы смертельна, равно как и абсолютная монархия.

Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment. It doesn't really matter how and by who i get back my ltcs, the thing matters most is when exactly I can  recover it and of course full amount or not. If i lost 10 ltc i would give them to you. In this situcion i can't.
I set up my miners back to ltcmine.ru. You have my support.

BTW i know monarchy is better, when lets say "king" is wise and good for people.

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July 09, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
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Hi Balthazar,

I'd like to voice my support for the plan going forward. My user on your pool is thefirstnutzo, so I was in the category of ~200 LTCs. What happened sucks, but shit happens. In hindsight I never should have had that many LTCs sitting in the pool, that was clearly my mistake. Unlike some on here, I think you've been doing a pretty good job of explaining whats going on and how we're going to move forward. Obviously this wasn't planned, so you, like the rest of us, was taken by surprise at the start and wouldn't have magical answers at hour zero.

I tried several pools before settling on yours, and I settled on yours for a variety of reasons. I have liked yours so far. I'll continue mining with you and I hope that others will as well.

AntyGMO, I'm glad to see your tone improving. Your sharp tongue really wasn't helping anything (I understand your frustration, but it still doesn't help anything) and it will get you in trouble some day.
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July 09, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
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Здравствуйте Бальтазар. Скажите пожалуйста, есть ли возможность увидеть сколько всего намайнил? Я подключился за пару дней до заморозки статистики(так вот мне повезло). У меня так и висит 5.5 но потом ферма у меня всё равно работала, а кошелёк я ещё тогда не прописал на пуле.Так вот дня четыре назад прописал и начали приходить через два дня лайты. Но сдаётся мне что не все, а лишь те что после прописывания адр кошелька на пуле. Конечно это всё мелочи, но всё же интересно. И кстати, статистика будит разморожена? или только когда будут выплачены все долги?
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July 09, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
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I liked the pool, it wasn't great, but nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement. Enyone could have his own pool, but not everyone have enough skill to do this propertly and second thing is responsibility, this is major part of any business, especially when you have people working for your profit (miners).

To be a good company you must have good skills not only with hardware and software, but also great communication skill with people.

In conclusion: I count on you, Balthazar to solve this big problem. I know this is a lot of coins but in the same time i have faith in you and your IT experience and i know that you can eventually came up with good idea to provide to miners their lost funds.

PS, sorry for being rude, but im really in bad financial situacion and have my own problems.

Responsibility can't go beyond what is declared - I haven't seen TOS/AUP on any pool (there is sort of rudimentary AUP on Balthazars pools about botnets) and what I observe is "best effort" policy while he could plainly say "f**k it! I'm out!". Good communication skills? "been there, seen that" - 20+ years of Ukrainian history is a bright example of "good communication skills" - when people are lured into "bright future" beliefs and elections turn into a way to make money by promoting as much political powers as you can at once or get attention to easily solvable local problems.

As to financial situation - living from mining? There's a guy here, Maniac or something like that - he claimed to do so... But that is really stupid. My mining doesn't affect  my family finances in any serious way (ah, ok - sometimes I invest "extra income" into mining and other businesses, sometimes I spend "mined" funds). Basically mining is used to fund mining which is then used to fund mining Smiley. Unfortunately, power costs differently in Ukraine, starting from 0.02$ and going up to 0.12$ for people (the less you are using the less the price is basically), businesses pay 0.15$ and twice that amount if they exceed their declared power usage. So I have to stay at the "safe" $0.05/kWh at home=1kW from wall Sad
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July 09, 2013, 03:52:59 PM
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I liked the pool, it wasn't great, but nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement. Enyone could have his own pool, but not everyone have enough skill to do this propertly and second thing is responsibility, this is major part of any business, especially when you have people working for your profit (miners).

To be a good company you must have good skills not only with hardware and software, but also great communication skill with people.

In conclusion: I count on you, Balthazar to solve this big problem. I know this is a lot of coins but in the same time i have faith in you and your IT experience and i know that you can eventually came up with good idea to provide to miners their lost funds.

PS, sorry for being rude, but im really in bad financial situacion and have my own problems.

Responsibility can't go beyond what is declared - I haven't seen TOS/AUP on any pool (there is sort of rudimentary AUP on Balthazars pools about botnets) and what I observe is "best effort" policy while he could plainly say "f**k it! I'm out!". Good communication skills? "been there, seen that" - 20+ years of Ukrainian history is a bright example of "good communication skills" - when people are lured into "bright future" beliefs and elections turn into a way to make money by promoting as much political powers as you can at once or get attention to easily solvable local problems.

As to financial situation - living from mining? There's a guy here, Maniac or something like that - he claimed to do so... But that is really stupid. My mining doesn't affect  my family finances in any serious way (ah, ok - sometimes I invest "extra income" into mining and other businesses, sometimes I spend "mined" funds). Basically mining is used to fund mining which is then used to fund mining Smiley. Unfortunately, power costs differently in Ukraine, starting from 0.02$ and going up to 0.12$ for people (the less you are using the less the price is basically), businesses pay 0.15$ and twice that amount if they exceed their declared power usage. So I have to stay at the "safe" $0.05/kWh at home=1kW from wall Sad

Thats how it is, because of global goverment European Union etc. But how we can change it for better? Personally i have enough of seeing what is happening with goverment, what media saing for stupid masses. If only people see what is really going on, then maybe they could revolt and refuse this. Prices going up, taxes bigger and bigger. People have hard times, not only in east, but believe me or not also in so-called modern west Europe.
In colnclusion, money is importand like never before, and in my situation even more than u think. (no job at the moment, because of my health problems)

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July 09, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
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Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment.
Democracy is not a freedom, it's one of dictatorship variants. One of three "corrupt" forms of government, according to Aristotle.

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Monarchy      Tyranny
Aristocracy    Plutocracy
Politeia          Democracy

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July 09, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
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https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?

Seems one of us has incorrect understanding of what is mining. Mining is like filling (endless amount) of lottery tickets, then someone wins and splits income to everyone who took part.
Shares with difficulty < target (that is lots'o'millions for ltc) are worthless (cost 0) and you get paid just for participating in a pool. So what mining proxy should do for you? You can't assemble a higher diff share from lower diff shares and pool will not accept lower diff than it is requesting.

Though mining proxy was very buggy for me Sad - rejects were over 50%.
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July 09, 2013, 04:37:26 PM
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https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?
Actually I thought about diff-1 support removal for bitcoin also, but some old bitcoin miners works incorrectly with the difficulty greater than 1.

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July 09, 2013, 05:10:36 PM
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The work under new statistics core continues.

Snapshots for last 1 day and last 2 days added.

http://ltcmine.ru/work_last1d.txt (updated once per 1 hour)
http://ltcmine.ru/work_last2d.txt (updated once per 2 hours)

Format is the same as for work_last10m.txt page.

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July 09, 2013, 07:00:45 PM
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Stats snapshot for last two days.

Blocks mined: 12

Blocks list:

http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/b91cf92061b312d90076dcc2e9935ed79e436ce7bbc6e847374dd031471b51f7
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/684186dc2ee5e942ee21beb4046ff4e498e4f53490313eabf2727f6726c01217
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/ab8f614c361f77bc83f36d425eca5af0bfa6d7c441c93542fdec26888eb639cb
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/0ef5d7a33da366b73632c8c3a2abce970fda0ef9a98826493733b396c2a2c998
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/8548af1baeaf987ac9737c565b47d546706ad82a937269a3155dbf6dfa9a19bd
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/5056e6131f6e70e20565436508e5e214b9ca1fa7f7372c877d358aa6bbfe97be
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/9791bdaa3afe9aa4ef73a82fa4190e623d2c93a0a4194544ff419af6691f35ea
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/7ddaaed67aca2717ba7843bc08bf76e2efc7588b64de44e4d8cf8ff49e03220b
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/9d91f4dc110ca6363af85c1f40d8d0a3d47c97edfbe8c53a9f328f505c522030
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/b0df564d9c01c8f055ae62bf5ebacced5bf137c85af6efcd0a0cc833de13324f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/4df2e4c3699649db13d7b6421a460fcac7abe1ade19615e374bb368d409e7ef1
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/3506109a17ca96bf36c25aa46edf19e0dd8fcf1999fd553eec73de7ffac1b8b0

Winning shares list:

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1373240010.08   tunaaja_0       Y       Y       None    420.0   59591980.3797   0.000345348482613
1373240897.48   rantal_2        Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373249626.55   basic_0 Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373276344.49   cl4ud1u_13      Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373286952.19   user8273_0      Y       Y       None    259.0   57283234.5022   0.000221548243745
1373302159.1    itzod1234_3     Y       Y       None    489.0   57283234.5022   0.00041828992738
1373302477.74   MGTN_11 Y       Y       None    475.0   57283234.5022   0.000406314346637
1373311979.82   nigik_0 Y       Y       None    1053.0  57283234.5022   0.000900734751597
1373320401.15   Bleem_0 Y       Y       None    256.0   57283234.5022   0.000218982047872
1373322361.51   bebop_1 Y       Y       None    716.0   57283234.5022   0.000612465415141
1373351234.29   7erge_4 Y       Y       None    639.0   57283234.5022   0.000546599721055
1373383992.92   2fast4u_4       Y       Y       None    411.0   57283234.5022   0.000351568834669

Shares list (RAW data in gzipped TSV format, without IPs): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_noip.tsv.gz
Round shares list (data in gzipped TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_by_rounds.tsv.gz
User work and rewards (data in TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/users_work.tsv

Total diff-1 approximated work (D1A): 697844299
PPS rate: 0.00000082 LTC
Approximated hashrate: (697844299 * 65535) / (2 * 86400) / 1000000 = 264.65 MHash/s
Total PPS work: 572.232 LTC
Mined funds: 600 LTC
TX fee: 0.01 LTC (added in order to cover 0.02 LTC nettxfee for some transactions)

Sendmany array: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/sendmany.json
Transactions list: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/transactions.json

If you can't understand what's this, please read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92522.msg2628221#msg2628221

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July 09, 2013, 07:31:55 PM
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Democracy is better, when people are free ...

 Grin Чувак, ты зомбоящик отключай иногда, а то он тебе в конец мозги промоет. Ржунемагу  Grin
Ну, в некотором смысле он прав - при некоторых же видах сувенирной демократии, рабы практически бесплатны (free).
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July 09, 2013, 07:40:26 PM
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Democracy is better, when people are free ...

 Grin Чувак, ты зомбоящик отключай иногда, а то он тебе в конец мозги промоет. Ржунемагу  Grin
Ну, в некотором смысле он прав - при некоторых же видах сувенирной демократии, рабы практически бесплатны (free).
Сувенирной?  Cheesy

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July 09, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
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Democracy is better, when people are free ...

 Grin Чувак, ты зомбоящик отключай иногда, а то он тебе в конец мозги промоет. Ржунемагу  Grin
Ну, в некотором смысле он прав - при некоторых же видах сувенирной демократии, рабы практически бесплатны (free).

You are right. Todays democracy looks like that. Hidden "bosses" and slaves (most population) The fun factor of this system is that most pepole don't even know that they are slaves. They think they are free and have rights, but is exactly opposite.

So i hope we can have real democracy here as it should be. But if you think, Baltazahr democracy is corrupted, then we need another form of power here.

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July 09, 2013, 08:37:01 PM
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There is no "right" or "wrong" democracy, because it's wrong by definition. Roll Eyes

Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment.
Democracy is not a freedom, it's one of dictatorship variants. One of three "corrupt" forms of government, according to Aristotle.

Quote
Original form  Corrupted version

Monarchy      Tyranny
Aristocracy    Plutocracy
Politeia          Democracy

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July 09, 2013, 08:52:23 PM
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hi Balthazar,

just wanna thank you for all what you are doing, altought all that happend.

still correct payments till now

thank you and keep up the good work !

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July 09, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
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Balthazar you have a PM  Grin

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July 10, 2013, 08:12:47 AM
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Baltazar, have you got any news in terms of frozen funds? Is there any real chance to recover them and if yes, then how long does take to complete all of them.

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July 10, 2013, 08:15:38 AM
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а есть возможность обмена застрявших ltc на nvc  по курсу биржи?
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July 10, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
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Thank you Balthazar for the updates with the json formatted files.
Keep up the good work.
I don't mind the front end being so simple, as long as you're working on the payment algorithm and fair sharing of pool mining.

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