[ANN] [LTC] [PPS] [OTP 2FA] [Stratum only] LTCMine PPS mining pool (3.3%)

[TagBot]

Здpaвcтвyйтe Бaльтaзap. Cкaжитe пoжaлyйcтa, ecть ли вoзмoжнocть yвидeть cкoлькo вceгo нaмaйнил? Я пoдключилcя зa пapy днeй дo зaмopoзки cтaтиcтики(тaк вoт мнe пoвeзлo). У мeня тaк и виcит 5.5 нo пoтoм фepмa y мeня вcё paвнo paбoтaлa, a кoшeлёк я eщё тoгдa нe пpoпиcaл нa пyлe.Taк вoт дня чeтыpe нaзaд пpoпиcaл и нaчaли пpиxoдить чepeз двa дня лaйты. Ho cдaётcя мнe чтo нe вce, a лишь тe чтo пocлe пpoпиcывaния aдp кoшeлькa нa пyлe. Кoнeчнo этo вcё мeлoчи, нo вcё жe интepecнo. И кcтaти, cтaтиcтикa бyдит paзмopoжeнa? или тoлькo кoгдa бyдyт выплaчeны вce дoлги?

[xminer]

I liked the pool, it wasn't great, but nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement. Enyone could have his own pool, but not everyone have enough skill to do this propertly and second thing is responsibility, this is major part of any business, especially when you have people working for your profit (miners).

To be a good company you must have good skills not only with hardware and software, but also great communication skill with people.

In conclusion: I count on you, Balthazar to solve this big problem. I know this is a lot of coins but in the same time i have faith in you and your IT experience and i know that you can eventually came up with good idea to provide to miners their lost funds.

PS, sorry for being rude, but im really in bad financial situacion and have my own problems.

Responsibility can't go beyond what is declared - I haven't seen TOS/AUP on any pool (there is sort of rudimentary AUP on Balthazars pools about botnets) and what I observe is "best effort" policy while he could plainly say "f**k it! I'm out!". Good communication skills? "been there, seen that" - 20+ years of Ukrainian history is a bright example of "good communication skills" - when people are lured into "bright future" beliefs and elections turn into a way to make money by promoting as much political powers as you can at once or get attention to easily solvable local problems.

As to financial situation - living from mining? There's a guy here, Maniac or something like that - he claimed to do so... But that is really stupid. My mining doesn't affect  my family finances in any serious way (ah, ok - sometimes I invest "extra income" into mining and other businesses, sometimes I spend "mined" funds). Basically mining is used to fund mining which is then used to fund mining . Unfortunately, power costs differently in Ukraine, starting from 0.02$ and going up to 0.12$ for people (the less you are using the less the price is basically), businesses pay 0.15$ and twice that amount if they exceed their declared power usage. So I have to stay at the "safe" $0.05/kWh at home=1kW from wall

[antyGMO]

I liked the pool, it wasn't great, but nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement. Enyone could have his own pool, but not everyone have enough skill to do this propertly and second thing is responsibility, this is major part of any business, especially when you have people working for your profit (miners).

To be a good company you must have good skills not only with hardware and software, but also great communication skill with people.

In conclusion: I count on you, Balthazar to solve this big problem. I know this is a lot of coins but in the same time i have faith in you and your IT experience and i know that you can eventually came up with good idea to provide to miners their lost funds.

PS, sorry for being rude, but im really in bad financial situacion and have my own problems.

Responsibility can't go beyond what is declared - I haven't seen TOS/AUP on any pool (there is sort of rudimentary AUP on Balthazars pools about botnets) and what I observe is "best effort" policy while he could plainly say "f**k it! I'm out!". Good communication skills? "been there, seen that" - 20+ years of Ukrainian history is a bright example of "good communication skills" - when people are lured into "bright future" beliefs and elections turn into a way to make money by promoting as much political powers as you can at once or get attention to easily solvable local problems.

As to financial situation - living from mining? There's a guy here, Maniac or something like that - he claimed to do so... But that is really stupid. My mining doesn't affect  my family finances in any serious way (ah, ok - sometimes I invest "extra income" into mining and other businesses, sometimes I spend "mined" funds). Basically mining is used to fund mining which is then used to fund mining . Unfortunately, power costs differently in Ukraine, starting from 0.02$ and going up to 0.12$ for people (the less you are using the less the price is basically), businesses pay 0.15$ and twice that amount if they exceed their declared power usage. So I have to stay at the "safe" $0.05/kWh at home=1kW from wall

Thats how it is, because of global goverment European Union etc. But how we can change it for better? Personally i have enough of seeing what is happening with goverment, what media saing for stupid masses. If only people see what is really going on, then maybe they could revolt and refuse this. Prices going up, taxes bigger and bigger. People have hard times, not only in east, but believe me or not also in so-called modern west Europe.
In colnclusion, money is importand like never before, and in my situation even more than u think. (no job at the moment, because of my health problems)

[Balthazar]

Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment.

Democracy is not a freedom, it's one of dictatorship variants. One of three "corrupt" forms of government, according to Aristotle.

Original form  Corrupted version

Monarchy      Tyranny
Aristocracy    Plutocracy
Politeia          Democracy

[xminer]

https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?

Seems one of us has incorrect understanding of what is mining. Mining is like filling (endless amount) of lottery tickets, then someone wins and splits income to everyone who took part.
Shares with difficulty < target (that is lots'o'millions for ltc) are worthless (cost 0) and you get paid just for participating in a pool. So what mining proxy should do for you? You can't assemble a higher diff share from lower diff shares and pool will not accept lower diff than it is requesting.

Though mining proxy was very buggy for me - rejects were over 50%.

[Balthazar]

https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?

Actually I thought about diff-1 support removal for bitcoin also, but some old bitcoin miners works incorrectly with the difficulty greater than 1.

[Balthazar]

The work under new statistics core continues.

Snapshots for last 1 day and last 2 days added.

http://ltcmine.ru/work_last1d.txt (updated once per 1 hour)
http://ltcmine.ru/work_last2d.txt (updated once per 2 hours)

Format is the same as for work_last10m.txt page.

[Balthazar]

Stats snapshot for last two days.

Blocks mined: 12

Blocks list:

http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/b91cf92061b312d90076dcc2e9935ed79e436ce7bbc6e847374dd031471b51f7
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/684186dc2ee5e942ee21beb4046ff4e498e4f53490313eabf2727f6726c01217
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/ab8f614c361f77bc83f36d425eca5af0bfa6d7c441c93542fdec26888eb639cb
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/0ef5d7a33da366b73632c8c3a2abce970fda0ef9a98826493733b396c2a2c998
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/8548af1baeaf987ac9737c565b47d546706ad82a937269a3155dbf6dfa9a19bd
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/5056e6131f6e70e20565436508e5e214b9ca1fa7f7372c877d358aa6bbfe97be
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/9791bdaa3afe9aa4ef73a82fa4190e623d2c93a0a4194544ff419af6691f35ea
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/7ddaaed67aca2717ba7843bc08bf76e2efc7588b64de44e4d8cf8ff49e03220b
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/9d91f4dc110ca6363af85c1f40d8d0a3d47c97edfbe8c53a9f328f505c522030
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/b0df564d9c01c8f055ae62bf5ebacced5bf137c85af6efcd0a0cc833de13324f
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/4df2e4c3699649db13d7b6421a460fcac7abe1ade19615e374bb368d409e7ef1
http://explorer.litecoin.net/block/3506109a17ca96bf36c25aa46edf19e0dd8fcf1999fd553eec73de7ffac1b8b0

Winning shares list:

1373240010.08   tunaaja_0       Y       Y       None    420.0   59591980.3797   0.000345348482613
1373240897.48   rantal_2        Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373249626.55   basic_0 Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373276344.49   cl4ud1u_13      Y       Y       None    256.0   59591980.3797   0.000210498122735
1373286952.19   user8273_0      Y       Y       None    259.0   57283234.5022   0.000221548243745
1373302159.1    itzod1234_3     Y       Y       None    489.0   57283234.5022   0.00041828992738
1373302477.74   MGTN_11 Y       Y       None    475.0   57283234.5022   0.000406314346637
1373311979.82   nigik_0 Y       Y       None    1053.0  57283234.5022   0.000900734751597
1373320401.15   Bleem_0 Y       Y       None    256.0   57283234.5022   0.000218982047872
1373322361.51   bebop_1 Y       Y       None    716.0   57283234.5022   0.000612465415141
1373351234.29   7erge_4 Y       Y       None    639.0   57283234.5022   0.000546599721055
1373383992.92   2fast4u_4       Y       Y       None    411.0   57283234.5022   0.000351568834669

Shares list (RAW data in gzipped TSV format, without IPs): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_noip.tsv.gz
Round shares list (data in gzipped TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_by_rounds.tsv.gz
User work and rewards (data in TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/users_work.tsv

Total diff-1 approximated work (D1A): 697844299
PPS rate: 0.00000082 LTC
Approximated hashrate: (697844299 * 65535) / (2 * 86400) / 1000000 = 264.65 MHash/s
Total PPS work: 572.232 LTC
Mined funds: 600 LTC
TX fee: 0.01 LTC (added in order to cover 0.02 LTC nettxfee for some transactions)

Sendmany array: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/sendmany.json
Transactions list: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/transactions.json

If you can't understand what's this, please read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92522.msg2628221#msg2628221

[Leopold Storch]

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

  Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy 

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

[Balthazar]

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

  Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy 

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

Cyвeниpнoй? 

[antyGMO]

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

  Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy  

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

You are right. Todays democracy looks like that. Hidden "bosses" and slaves (most population) The fun factor of this system is that most pepole don't even know that they are slaves. They think they are free and have rights, but is exactly opposite.

So i hope we can have real democracy here as it should be. But if you think, Baltazahr democracy is corrupted, then we need another form of power here.

[Balthazar]

There is no "right" or "wrong" democracy, because it's wrong by definition.

Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment.

Democracy is not a freedom, it's one of dictatorship variants. One of three "corrupt" forms of government, according to Aristotle.

Original form  Corrupted version

Monarchy      Tyranny
Aristocracy    Plutocracy
Politeia          Democracy

[pinarello]

hi Balthazar,

just wanna thank you for all what you are doing, altought all that happend.

still correct payments till now

thank you and keep up the good work !

[joeperry]

Balthazar you have a PM 

[antyGMO]

Baltazar, have you got any news in terms of frozen funds? Is there any real chance to recover them and if yes, then how long does take to complete all of them.

[telemen]

a ecть вoзмoжнocть oбмeнa зacтpявшиx ltc нa nvc  пo кypcy биpжи?

[amihh]

Thank you Balthazar for the updates with the json formatted files.
Keep up the good work.
I don't mind the front end being so simple, as long as you're working on the payment algorithm and fair sharing of pool mining.

[joeperry]

Balthazar you have a PM 

Balthazar you have a PM 

[Volcano]

Tы вoт caм oтвeть нa вoпpoc здecь: бyдeшь мaйнить зaдapoм, чтoбы oтдaть дoлги кaкoмyтo дядe?

2 Balthazar:
Boзмoжнo, лoгичнee былo бы выплaчивaть (из тoгo дoпoлнитeльнoгo 1% фии) cнaчaлa вoзвpaты для apмии мeлкиx пocтpaдaвшиx, y кoгo зacтpялo мeнee 5 лтц - a) быcтpee бы oни включилиcь/вepнyлиcь в мaйнинг и б) кpyпнoпocтpaдaвшиe и тaк yжe, нaвepнoe, "cмиpилиcь" c yтpaтoй (нeкoтopыe вoн тoнны гoвн выплёcкивaют), и иx, нaвepнoe, мeньшee кoличecтвo.

+ + +

[Balthazar]

Balthazar you have a PM  

Balthazar you have a PM  

I seen, but didn't answered yet.

Received a PM with a suggestion to truncate recent statistics, and performed a small research. Data about pool luck and the old miners activity was collected, so there is something new in the current situation, more info will be published soon. I'll be able to send 2/3 or even full amount of rewards immediately, if the last week of statistics (from 22.06.2013 to 29.06.2013) will be truncated before payments calculation. Not so good solution in terms of popularity (this could be really shocking for a new miners), but I think that it's a far better than continuous nano payments from the fees.

But I prefer let people to say their opinion, so wait a few hours for data, please.