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Right, because all the porn sites hosted within the US have never had a minor access them.

The drugs are causing you to be unable to read and comprehend my statements.  Generally porn sites that do not verify age are not hosted in the US because of our laws protecting children. I'm sure some that do verify age have had kids make it through their defenses, however they stand by their legal and moral obligations and make an effort.  You are making no such effort, you are simply gleefully prepared to endanger children for your own benefit.

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Once again, I'm not selling meth pipes, nobodies going to get addicted or die from anything.  Secondly, you're telling me people only want to use drugs because of head shops?  Nobody picks up a glass pipe and decides, "Hey this is cool, I'm gonna start smoking."  Like a kid who couldn't obtain a pipe wouldn't build one out of a bottle, hollowed out pen and some aluminum foil.  That's a lot healthier.

Once again, the law does not allow you to steal things while yelling "NUH-UH I'M JUST BORROWING IT IF I CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE IT'S LEGAL!".  You have the mind of a child.  You are selling drug paraphernalia.  It's kind of a laugh you would pretend to care about the health of children while planning to illegally sell them harmful drug use products.  You have already been shown the dangers of marijuana addiction and the deaths it causes.

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Did you even google that?  It says shutdown for selling synthetic marijuana, not pipes.  There are plenty of online head shops that operate within the legal realms of the law.

The drugs have shortened your attention span and damaged your comprehension.  The search lists head shops closed down for a wide variety of reasons, branching their criminal enterprise out to illegal drug sales is just one of the listed reasons.  Attempting to sell across state lines online is one such reason for prosecution.

What these criminals do is not "legal".  Selling drug paraphernalia is illegal.  When a mob boss uses code to order a lieutenant to have an underling commit a murder, that can be difficult to prosecute because it can be hard to prove he ordered the hit.  That they sometimes get away with it does not make it "legal".  What head shops do is attempt to circumvent the law in the same way by using code words like "Waterpipe" instead of "Bong".  They still often end up in legal trouble for either admitting the truth or failure to check id which is a requirement once you claim the bongs you sell are tobacco pipes.

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You do not need to be a licensed 'professional' to use logic and read a study.  It's clear to me you have never read a scientific document regarding cannabis, or anything else for that matter, since you deem you're unqualified to read such a thing.  You're speaking off of ignorance and inexperience, it's very apparent you're not open to the possibility not everything you were spoon fed about drugs is true.

Again, your clouded and addled mind has been unable to engage with the actual evidence and expert testimony under discussion.  It doesn't matter what you or I think, the studies have been reviewed by medical experts and scientists worldwide are far more qualified to understand what they mean than you or I.  You have utterly failed to do anything but shout "Nuh-uh!" at them even though you are clearly unable to think and even follow a basic conversation.  This is not a debate between reasonable viewpoints, it is a worldwide scientific consensus that maintains the worldwide legal restrictions on this dangerous drug.
Please, enlighten me on the deaths caused by cannabis.  You provided no proof of any danger, do you know how to cite sources?  Please stop making false claims, I haven't sold any glass pipes.

I don't know what you're talking about, there is nothing illegal about selling tobacco pipes, I can go to a store right now and buy one.  You can put crack at the end of a cigarette, does that make it a crack pipe?

Your insults are getting old, you think you know everything about something you've never experienced and almost everything you say is ass backwards.  Again, show me a study, one specific study, so I can debunk it for you.  I don't have time to go through multitudes of studies, I've already done that during my high school years, pun intended.

This is why cannabis is illegal: http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/

I'll just leave this here if you can ever reconsider your worldwide scientific consensus: http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/645925-grannys-mmj-list-july-2010-a.html

You should try reading some of them, just maybe you will understand what they're talking about, you don't need a license to read and think.

Wow, thank you for the graphical representation of your perspective of our conversation.  Let me say again, glass pipes are not unanimously, globally illegal.  I could be selling them to licensed patients, or as SMTB said, in jurisdictions where they are legal.

I'm not planning to do anything illegal, such accusations are false and slanderous, that's illegal isn't it?  You stated yourself there's no concrete way to verify age.

Answer this honestly, are you even open to the smallest speck of chance that you are wrong about it being a harmful substance?  If not, this conversation is over, there is no point of debating if you choose to ignore the overwhelming (truthful) evidence.

I'd love to continue this debate in another thread, this is, however, completely irrelevant from Dank Bank and we are running circles.  

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September 01, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
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No-one's suggesting that dank isn't risking getting busted - especially if he's going to be selling directly rather than through SR.  His "investors" need to take that risk into account - they'll have no plausible deniability if he does get busted and need to consider whether they'd be open to charges themselves in their particular jurisdiction if that happens. 

We don't know whether dank is even planning on holding stock and shipping directly or using a drop-ship model where he never comes into contact with the merchandise but simply passes on orders.

While I personally think it's silly to risk a criminal record at 18 for little return (it's not likely to become a multi-million dollar enterprise), it's up to dank and his investors to decide whether they consider that risk worthwhile.

I didn't want to get into the business part, but yes it is highly unlikely he will create a multi-million dollar enterprise
(or even a profitable business after he attempts to draw a salary)
The margins are to small and the potential volume of bitcoin sales so tiny that it would not be worth it.
If it was, I would be pursuing that market right now.
My lady handles the office for shellshock here in edmonton - 3 retail stores and a great website...
Knowing how much work goes into that, I doubt dank is pulling it off just himself and with a bit of funding from the community.
Million dollar ventures are completely separate from Dank Glass, I was just hoping to start a small business for the short term.

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I am not assuming anything.  He is planning to sell illegal drug paraphernalia.

You must have trouble with reading comprehension.  Here, try again:

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Would a statement from dank to the effect of "I will only sell my products in jurisdictions where it is legal to do so" send you back to the Off Topic section where you belong?

On second thought, don't bother replying.  I've just realized I'm guilty of feeding the troll.
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Please, enlighten me on the deaths caused by cannabis

I pointed out the prevalence of Marijuana in the system of folks involved in fatal car crashes, among other things.  Your short term memory is clearly damaged.

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I don't know what you're talking about, there is nothing illegal about selling tobacco pipes, I can go to a store right now and buy one.  You can put crack at the end of a cigarette, does that make it a crack pipe?

You can legally sell a tobacco pipe to people over 18 years old.  You are not verifying ID.  However, glass pipes are used for hard drugs like crack, marijuana, and meth.  You are planning to sell illegal paraphernalia, a federal crime.  All of this has already been pointed out to you.  Please print out this post and review it before replying again so we can try and work around your memory deficit.

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I don't have time to go through multitudes of studies, I've already done that during my high school years, pun intended.

Scientists and doctors have not come to their conclusion by looking at one study.  That is just bad science.  They have reviewed the bulk of the scientific and medical evidence and that is the proper way to evaluate the dangers of a product.  

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This is why cannabis is illegal

Many things played a role in the original decision in the United States, however the relevant part of the conversation is the reasons it remains legally restricted everywhere in the world.  The reasons are that the scientific and medical evidence shows the drug to be dangerous and addictive.  

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I'll just leave this here if you can ever reconsider your worldwide scientific consensus: http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/645925-grannys-mmj-list-july-2010-a.html

That you think some place called "Grasscity" where drug users gather to discuss their lawbreaking is an appropriate source says a lot about your understandings of these issues.   Some chemicals found in marijuana have some potential medical uses and the FDA has approved a drug for medical purposes called Marinol.  When you are treating a medical ailment doctors are required to balance the dangerous side effects of drugs like this with potential benefits.  That is not the case with recreational use, there is no benefit to balance out the dangers which is why the world listens to their doctors and scientists and maintains some form of legal restriction.

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I could be selling them to licensed patients, or as SMTB said, in jurisdictions where they are legal.

Licensed patients for what?  I thought you were selling tobacco pipes?  Where are those illegal?  Oops!  You fucked up already.  This is how you are going to end up in jail.  Selling this paraphernalia is a federal crime everywhere in the United States.  Are you going to sell your products in the United States?

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You stated yourself there's no concrete way to verify age.

I stated there is no concrete system to do anything.  That is not an excuse not to take all appropriate efforts to avoid selling children whenever possible.  I linked you to a service that can verify age for you up to the standards the US requires for online tobacco sales for a reasonable price.  What is your reason for deciding against such a process and avoiding any attempts at age verification?

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Answer this honestly, are you even open to the smallest speck of chance that you are wrong about it being a harmful substance?

The scientific consensus is very clear.  The drug is harmful, my opinion on the matter is meaningless compared to what the experts who have reviewed the studies conclude.

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I'd love to continue this debate in another thread, this is, however, completely irrelevant from Dank Bank and we are running circles.

You are the one who decided to link your proposed criminal enterprise with this thread and your other business.  It is cowardly and inappropriate for you to demand nobody criticize your business in this thread.  If you want to avoid feedback, buy an ad.

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September 01, 2012, 11:01:33 PM
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Million dollar ventures are completely separate from Dank Glass, I was just hoping to start a small business for the short term.

You need to calculate risk/reward.  While it's possible that your chances of getting busted are extremely small, you need to look at the impact it would have on your future business plans and what possibilities it would change/exclude.

People can certainly grow empires from an sketchy start - Richard Branson did it with Virgin - but getting caught for the wrong thing at the wrong time can also have profound outcomes (Branson openly admits that had he ever been prosecuted over selling export records domestically, the Virgin empire could have never existed.).

No-one can tell you what risks you should or should not take.  You just need to consider the worst case scenario if they don't pay off and whether you're prepared to live with it - never just assume that the worst case scenario won't happen to you.

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Please, enlighten me on the deaths caused by cannabis

I pointed out the prevalence of Marijuana in the system of folks involved in fatal car crashes, among other things.  Your short term memory is clearly damaged.

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I don't know what you're talking about, there is nothing illegal about selling tobacco pipes, I can go to a store right now and buy one.  You can put crack at the end of a cigarette, does that make it a crack pipe?

You can legally sell a tobacco pipe to people over 18 years old.  You are not verifying ID.  However, glass pipes are used for hard drugs like crack, marijuana, and meth.  You are planning to sell illegal paraphernalia, a federal crime.  All of this has already been pointed out to you.  Please print out this post and review it before replying again so we can try and work around your memory deficit.

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I don't have time to go through multitudes of studies, I've already done that during my high school years, pun intended.

Scientists and doctors have not come to their conclusion by looking at one study.  That is just bad science.  They have reviewed the bulk of the scientific and medical evidence and that is the proper way to evaluate the dangers of a product.  

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This is why cannabis is illegal

Many things played a role in the original decision in the United States, however the relevant part of the conversation is the reasons it remains legally restricted everywhere in the world.  The reasons are that the scientific and medical evidence shows the drug to be dangerous and addictive.  

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I'll just leave this here if you can ever reconsider your worldwide scientific consensus: http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/645925-grannys-mmj-list-july-2010-a.html

That you think some place called "Grasscity" where drug users gather to discuss their lawbreaking is an appropriate source says a lot about your understandings of these issues.   Some chemicals found in marijuana have some potential medical uses and the FDA has approved a drug for medical purposes called Marinol.  When you are treating a medical ailment doctors are required to balance the dangerous side effects of drugs like this with potential benefits.  That is not the case with recreational use, there is no benefit to balance out the dangers which is why the world listens to their doctors and scientists and maintains some form of legal restriction.

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I could be selling them to licensed patients, or as SMTB said, in jurisdictions where they are legal.

Licensed patients for what?  I thought you were selling tobacco pipes?  Oops!  You fucked up already.  This is how you are going to end up in jail.  Selling this paraphernalia is a federal crime everywhere in the United States.  Are you going to sell your products in the United States?

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You stated yourself there's no concrete way to verify age.

I stated there is no concrete system to do anything.  That is not an excuse not to take all appropriate efforts to avoid selling children whenever possible.  I linked you to a service that can verify age for you up to the standards the US requires for online tobacco sales for a reasonable price.  What is your reason for deciding against such a process and avoiding any attempts at age verification?

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Answer this honestly, are you even open to the smallest speck of chance that you are wrong about it being a harmful substance?

The scientific consensus is very clear.  The drug is harmful, my opinion on the matter is meaningless compared to what the experts who have reviewed the studies conclude.

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I'd love to continue this debate in another thread, this is, however, completely irrelevant from Dank Bank and we are running circles.

You are the one who decided to link your proposed criminal enterprise with this thread and your other business.  It is cowardly and inappropriate for you to demand nobody criticize your business in this thread.  If you want to avoid feedback, buy an ad.

Ok, I'm done with this, you will never see the truth in this lifetime.  Carry on living your blissful lie of a life.

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September 01, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
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Million dollar ventures are completely separate from Dank Glass, I was just hoping to start a small business for the short term.

You need to calculate risk/reward.  While it's possible that your chances of getting busted are extremely small, you need to look at the impact it would have on your future business plans and what possibilities it would change/exclude.

People can certainly grow empires from an sketchy start - Richard Branson did it with Virgin - but getting caught for the wrong thing at the wrong time can also have profound outcomes (Branson openly admits that had he ever been prosecuted over selling export records domestically, the Virgin empire could have never existed.).

No-one can tell you what risks you should or should not take.  You just need to consider the worst case scenario if they don't pay off and whether you're prepared to live with it - never just assume that the worst case scenario won't happen to you.
Thank you for your input, I'll probably contact my lawyer and talk things over, but failure to launch Dank Glass would in no way impede me from reaching my goal.

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September 01, 2012, 11:14:31 PM
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You won't be able to hide from the truth forever, Dank.  Either your addiction or your planned federal felonies are going to catch up with you sooner or later, or you're going to read about a teenager who ended up dead high on drugs with a glass pipe in her car and wonder why you contributed to that sort of thing happening to way too many kids.  You won't be able to hide from that like you are hiding from my attempts to stop you before it's too late.

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Thank Goodness I got through to you.  I guarantee your lawyer will advise against pursuing this.


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Ok, I'm done with this, you will never see the truth in this lifetime.  Carry on living your blissful lie of a life.

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Please stop feeding the troll. I'm trying to follow this thread to read the latest news on Dank Bank. Don't you people have a more appropriate forum for this nonsense?
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You won't be able to hide from the truth forever, Dank.  Either your addiction or your planned federal felonies are going to catch up with you sooner or later, or you're going to read about a teenager who ended up dead high on drugs with a glass pipe in her car and wonder why you contributed to that sort of thing happening to way too many kids.  You won't be able to hide from that like you are hiding from my attempts to stop you before it's too late.

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Thank Goodness I got through to you.  I guarantee your lawyer will advise against pursuing this.

I think it's clear now. YOU need more Mental Help than even I do......

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You won't be able to hide from the truth forever, Dank.  Either your addiction or your planned federal felonies are going to catch up with you sooner or later, or you're going to read about a teenager who ended up dead high on drugs with a glass pipe in her car and wonder why you contributed to that sort of thing happening to way too many kids.  You won't be able to hide from that like you are hiding from my attempts to stop you before it's too late.

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I'll probably contact my lawyer and talk things over

Thank Goodness I got through to you.  I guarantee your lawyer will advise against pursuing this.

I think it's clear now. YOU need more Mental Help than even I do......
It's sad to know people like this personally.

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It's sad to know people like this personally.

Like me ? I'm just a crazy asshole...lol. I am not a Crusader of everything Virtuous.....hehe

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There are federal drug paraphernalia laws, that one state may have less stringent laws does not change that the business is illegal or that age should be verified.

Texas has less stringent drug laws than the feds or the rest of the 49?!?   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?

Such shops are illegal under federal law.  I made no comment on drug laws in general.  I simply replied to the suggestion that Texas does not ban sale of drug paraphernalia.  (They do, the shops are not legal, they are simply evading prosecution.  If Dank were to sell to a minor in Texas -likely with no age check- he would be committing a felony under Texas and Federal law)  If the shops were legal, the law in that case would be less stringent than federal law.  Please sober up before replying to me again as you are not comprehending my words.



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There are federal drug paraphernalia laws, that one state may have less stringent laws does not change that the business is illegal or that age should be verified.

Texas has less stringent drug laws than the feds or the rest of the 49?!?   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?

Such shops are illegal under federal law.  I made no comment on drug laws in general.  Please sober up before replying to me again as you are not comprehending my words.



Why do you do that?  You attack other members instead of having a mature debate.  You obviously feel there is something wrong with putting stuff in your body and others obviously feel differently, so either respect their decision or make an attempt to understand why they think that way.  I understand why you think the way you do, because everybody did in some way.  I'll tell you now, I wouldn't have started smoking weed if it was bad for you, I researched the damn plant before ever interacting with it in person.

So try to understand and accept, or please leave.

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There are federal drug paraphernalia laws, that one state may have less stringent laws does not change that the business is illegal or that age should be verified.

Texas has less stringent drug laws than the feds or the rest of the 49?!?   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?

Such shops are illegal under federal law.  I made no comment on drug laws in general.  Please sober up before replying to me again as you are not comprehending my words.



Why do you do that?  You attack other members instead of having a mature debate.  You obviously feel there is something wrong with putting stuff in your body and others obviously feel differently, so either respect their decision or make an attempt to understand why they think that way.  I understand why you think the way you do, because everybody did in some way.  I'll tell you now, I wouldn't have started smoking weed if it was bad for you, I researched the damn plant before ever interacting with it in person.

So try to understand and accept, or please leave.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?"

When folks are ignoring my actual words and responding with such attacks it is charitable of me to assume it is the drugs talking and not that you are just immature and idiotic individuals.  I'm sorry if it is upsetting you that announcing an illegal business to sell drug tools to children has resulted in some negative feedback.  There is a reason most people avoid doing such things.

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There are federal drug paraphernalia laws, that one state may have less stringent laws does not change that the business is illegal or that age should be verified.

Texas has less stringent drug laws than the feds or the rest of the 49?!?   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?

Such shops are illegal under federal law.  I made no comment on drug laws in general.  Please sober up before replying to me again as you are not comprehending my words.



Why do you do that?  You attack other members instead of having a mature debate.  You obviously feel there is something wrong with putting stuff in your body and others obviously feel differently, so either respect their decision or make an attempt to understand why they think that way.  I understand why you think the way you do, because everybody did in some way.  I'll tell you now, I wouldn't have started smoking weed if it was bad for you, I researched the damn plant before ever interacting with it in person.

So try to understand and accept, or please leave.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!  Are you off your meds?"

When folks are ignoring my actual words and responding with such attacks it is charitable of me to assume it is the drugs talking and not that you are just immature and idiotic individuals.  I'm sorry if it is upsetting you that announcing an illegal business to sell drug tools to children has resulted in some negative feedback.  There is a reason most people avoid doing such things.
You've got to be kidding, like you haven't been doing that the entire time?  I can't take you seriously anymore, you're dismissed.

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September 02, 2012, 02:06:33 AM
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No, I have not been ignoring your words.  You are the one who has totally ignored the evidence of the dangers of this drug I have cited, and the laws I have cited, and the basic appeals to morality I have offered.  That you think you can claim any sort of high ground amidst planning to profit off the suffering of children is absurd.

When I asked why you would not use the age verification service I linked instead of doing no verification at all, what was your answer?  Crickets.  I'm still waiting.  Why were you talking about "patients" when all you are selling is tobacco products?  Lies.  Distortion. 

I am not the one behaving out of line in this conversation, you are.

"Money is like manure: Spread around, it helps things grow. Piled up in one place, it just stinks."
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September 02, 2012, 02:07:57 AM
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No, I have not been ignoring your words.  You are the one who has totally ignored the evidence of the dangers of this drug I have cited, and the laws I have cited, and the basic appeals to morality I have offered.  That you think you can claim any sort of high ground amidst planning to profit off the suffering of children is absurd.

Please take your Soapbox and GET OUT OF HERE. Isn't there a Homeless person in your area you can abduct and torture ?

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September 02, 2012, 02:09:13 AM
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Isn't there a Homeless person in your area you can abduct and torture ?

Are you going to keep lecturing me about tone, Dank?

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