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October 19, 2017, 02:47:53 PM
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Instead of using Agoras as a blockchain to support TAU, would it be preferable to port it on top of EOS instead?  We would end-up with a truly powerful langage using the latest (scalable to over 1million tx/sec) blockchain platform with not transaction fees ? Then, the Agoras token would be dedicated to create the TAU/AGORAS network effect. Man, I would like to see this happening Smiley
Then I suggest using ethereum lightning network technology that can handle billions of tx/sec.  Grin

Just kidding, asking Ohad to make an EOS dapp is like asking him to give up his years of works and start something else from scratch again.

Well, sharding comes with severe limitations when it comes to contracts transacting with other contracts. TX/sec is an incomplete metric to evaluate a platform capacity to handle a project like AGORAS.

In my understanding, the TAU Langage is a project in itself that could be implemented as a smart contract (DAPP) on EOS, taking advantage of parallel processing and other EOS features to create an AGORAS market place based on the TAU Langage. If so, other TAU based Dapps (like AI Dapps) could also be created on EOS. I think that Ohad years of work are related mostly to the TAU Langage. The AGORAS Blockchain is only one implementation of this very powerful paradgim. I would appreciate Ohad's opinion on this.
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October 19, 2017, 07:34:29 PM
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Ohad,
Instead of using Agoras as a blockchain to support TAU, would it be preferable to port it on top of EOS instead?  We would end-up with a truly powerful langage using the latest (scalable to over 1million tx/sec) blockchain platform with not transaction fees ? Then, the Agoras token would be dedicated to create the TAU/AGORAS network effect. Man, I would like to see this happening Smiley
Then I suggest using ethereum lightning network technology that can handle billions of tx/sec.  Grin

Just kidding, asking Ohad to make an EOS dapp is like asking him to give up his years of works and start something else from scratch again.

Well, sharding comes with severe limitations when it comes to contracts transacting with other contracts. TX/sec is an incomplete metric to evaluate a platform capacity to handle a project like AGORAS.

In my understanding, the TAU Langage is a project in itself that could be implemented as a smart contract (DAPP) on EOS, taking advantage of parallel processing and other EOS features to create an AGORAS market place based on the TAU Langage. If so, other TAU based Dapps (like AI Dapps) could also be created on EOS. I think that Ohad years of work are related mostly to the TAU Langage. The AGORAS Blockchain is only one implementation of this very powerful paradgim. I would appreciate Ohad's opinion on this.

the most important part of tau is the ability to change itself with time. therefore it cannot rely on a system which doesn't have this property

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October 19, 2017, 11:22:19 PM
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Ohad,
Instead of using Agoras as a blockchain to support TAU, would it be preferable to port it on top of EOS instead?  We would end-up with a truly powerful langage using the latest (scalable to over 1million tx/sec) blockchain platform with not transaction fees ? Then, the Agoras token would be dedicated to create the TAU/AGORAS network effect. Man, I would like to see this happening Smiley
Then I suggest using ethereum lightning network technology that can handle billions of tx/sec.  Grin

Just kidding, asking Ohad to make an EOS dapp is like asking him to give up his years of works and start something else from scratch again.

Well, sharding comes with severe limitations when it comes to contracts transacting with other contracts. TX/sec is an incomplete metric to evaluate a platform capacity to handle a project like AGORAS.

In my understanding, the TAU Langage is a project in itself that could be implemented as a smart contract (DAPP) on EOS, taking advantage of parallel processing and other EOS features to create an AGORAS market place based on the TAU Langage. If so, other TAU based Dapps (like AI Dapps) could also be created on EOS. I think that Ohad years of work are related mostly to the TAU Langage. The AGORAS Blockchain is only one implementation of this very powerful paradgim. I would appreciate Ohad's opinion on this.

the most important part of tau is the ability to change itself with time. therefore it cannot rely on a system which doesn't have this property

Thanks Ohad for taking the time to answer. I will try to wrap my mind around this and maybe understand the role of the blockchain infrastructure in relation to TAU. Will TAU be able to evolve the consensus algorithm? Will it be a new consensus (i.e. other thant pow, pos, dpos, ...). What type of projects could result from TAU, etc.
This is a fascinating project. I will study your documentation before getting back with other questions.
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October 20, 2017, 02:53:28 PM
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Ohad,
Instead of using Agoras as a blockchain to support TAU, would it be preferable to port it on top of EOS instead?  We would end-up with a truly powerful langage using the latest (scalable to over 1million tx/sec) blockchain platform with not transaction fees ? Then, the Agoras token would be dedicated to create the TAU/AGORAS network effect. Man, I would like to see this happening Smiley
Then I suggest using ethereum lightning network technology that can handle billions of tx/sec.  Grin

Just kidding, asking Ohad to make an EOS dapp is like asking him to give up his years of works and start something else from scratch again.

Well, sharding comes with severe limitations when it comes to contracts transacting with other contracts. TX/sec is an incomplete metric to evaluate a platform capacity to handle a project like AGORAS.

In my understanding, the TAU Langage is a project in itself that could be implemented as a smart contract (DAPP) on EOS, taking advantage of parallel processing and other EOS features to create an AGORAS market place based on the TAU Langage. If so, other TAU based Dapps (like AI Dapps) could also be created on EOS. I think that Ohad years of work are related mostly to the TAU Langage. The AGORAS Blockchain is only one implementation of this very powerful paradgim. I would appreciate Ohad's opinion on this.

the most important part of tau is the ability to change itself with time. therefore it cannot rely on a system which doesn't have this property

Thanks Ohad for taking the time to answer. I will try to wrap my mind around this and maybe understand the role of the blockchain infrastructure in relation to TAU. Will TAU be able to evolve the consensus algorithm? Will it be a new consensus (i.e. other thant pow, pos, dpos, ...). What type of projects could result from TAU, etc.
This is a fascinating project. I will study your documentation before getting back with other questions.

Yes, the design of tau is quite ingenious - by using a decidable language and an efficient reasoner it's able to define the blockchain within itself. Thus, users of Tau are able to define new rules of Tau and the reasoner can detect whether consensus is achieved at a logical level, and if so, they will be automatically implemented in subsequent blocks.

This is how Tau will truly be a self amending platform.

The ability to come up with designs of this level is just one part of Ohad's genius. As some others have said, he's the real deal. I do recommend everyone to join the irc channel (I keep it opened in the background) where you'll get daily updates from Ohad, and to read up on the IRC logs for a glimpse of how his mind operates.
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October 22, 2017, 09:20:26 AM
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how is the project going?

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October 24, 2017, 01:50:22 AM
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how is the project going?

Daily progress is being made by Ohad, it's very technical and he gives a bit of details in the IRC chat

An initial pre alpha release is likely before the year's end
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October 26, 2017, 05:31:04 AM
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how is the project going?

Daily progress is being made by Ohad, it's very technical and he gives a bit of details in the IRC chat

An initial pre alpha release is likely before the year's end

It'll get postponed just like it always does

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October 26, 2017, 05:15:26 PM
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Lets give Ohad the time and maybe if we are lucky, we get a pre alpha this year. But it's not unlikely that this is still to early. This project is gamechanging so we need a long breath and strong hands.
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October 27, 2017, 01:19:54 AM
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Lets give Ohad the time and maybe if we are lucky, we get a pre alpha this year. But it's not unlikely that this is still to early. This project is gamechanging so we need a long breath and strong hands.

I hope so, it seem at this rate my grand kids won't live to see alpha

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October 27, 2017, 01:23:29 AM
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This time-consuming project for more than two years in the end there is no result? Is the alpha version appear?
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October 27, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
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This time-consuming project for more than two years in the end there is no result? Is the alpha version appear?

no alpha yet, i will give him the benefit of doubt cos it's a really ambitious project. Hopefully we have some good news soon.

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October 27, 2017, 02:08:44 AM
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This time-consuming project for more than two years in the end there is no result? Is the alpha version appear?

no alpha yet, i will give him the benefit of doubt cos it's a really ambitious project. Hopefully we have some good news soon.
If can release with more than 3 years dev, it surely be a promising project.

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October 27, 2017, 04:55:51 AM
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Lets give Ohad the time and maybe if we are lucky, we get a pre alpha this year. But it's not unlikely that this is still to early. This project is gamechanging so we need a long breath and strong hands.

i think we just need long,long,long,and long life...maybe my son can use the TAU alpha release.
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October 27, 2017, 11:26:23 PM
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Lets give Ohad the time and maybe if we are lucky, we get a pre alpha this year. But it's not unlikely that this is still to early. This project is gamechanging so we need a long breath and strong hands.

i think we just need long,long,long,and long life...maybe my son can use the TAU alpha release.

If i can pass such a gift down to my kids then hell yeah. If tau makesit, it will be a huge game changer

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October 28, 2017, 04:30:26 AM
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Agoras Token seems to have all the elements necessary to compete with the best with the kind of exciting Project they are working on and also Coin Structure is great. Money flow is missing and it is the essence for creating higher Market Cap and Visibility. Getting listed to more exchanges like Binance and so on will help. Maybe name change / Rebranding? AI Market/Artificial intelligence Platform / Network? or some word which is very catchy and easy to remember could help creating much-needed visibility. Investors are more interested to know about the application of the technology. In simple words Market potential / Value. Let us Hope things will turn around.Thank you Mr.Ohad for this opportunity and for all your hard work.
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October 28, 2017, 06:39:39 AM
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Agoras Token seems to have all the elements necessary to compete with the best with the kind of exciting Project they are working on and also Coin Structure is great. Money flow is missing and it is the essence for creating higher Market Cap and Visibility. Getting listed to more exchanges like Binance and so on will help. Maybe name change / Rebranding? AI Market/Artificial intelligence Platform / Network? or some word which is very catchy and easy to remember could help creating much-needed visibility. Investors are more interested to know about the application of the technology. In simple words Market potential / Value. Let us Hope things will turn around.Thank you Mr.Ohad for this opportunity and for all your hard work.
We honestly just need an alpha, that would be enough marketing lol. Even a solid whitepaper could help the project see more traction.

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October 28, 2017, 08:00:54 AM
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Could you please provide more detail about the project...starting with the team of this project?
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October 28, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
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Is there any proof that Ohad work to release WP ? No news
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October 28, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
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I sold my tokens last year. Will come back again when the token is a little cheaper...

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October 28, 2017, 05:07:20 PM
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I sold my tokens last year. Will come back again when the token is a little cheaper...
these prices arent cheap enuf? cheapest its ever been vs btc.

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