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Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY
Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY
Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY
Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY
From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!



Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue?
I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago.
In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago.

I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising price.

Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin?

After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?).

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.........

Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY
Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY
Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY
Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY
From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!



Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue?
I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago.
In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago.

I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising prices.

Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin?

After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?).


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Last edit: October 20, 2015, 03:59:42 AM by heunland
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Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY
Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY
Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY
Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY
From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!

Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue?
I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago.
In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago.

I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising price.

Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin?

After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?).


The recent rise in BCY prices on the exchanges is a direct result of rising demand for this token by people wanting to buy new cards. Naturally we can expect a general upward price trend for BCY considering that half of the BCY collected by EverdreamSoft in new card sales will be burned. I would expect inicial sale prices for new cards to be continually adjusted in view of the market dynamics of BCY price.

On the other hand, I suppose you are not aware of the fact that the partner store is now open and partners did in fact buy limited edition RIPPLECARD and BLOCKSIZECD today and will be able to continue doing so for another month, before sales of these cards will be opened to players with access to the premium store. So it is not accurate to state that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hours. There were also additional cards resold on the Counterparty DEX. I know cause I made a purchase there myself recently, and the TX information is freely available for anyone to check on blockscan.com.

Edit: BCY price went down significantly late monday night after someone dumped a large amount on poloniex so I suppose too high of a price for BCY will not be a concern for the time being Wink
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Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY
Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY
Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY
Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY
From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!

Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue?
I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago.
In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago.

I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising price.

Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin?

After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?).


The recent rise in BCY prices on the exchanges is a direct result of rising demand for this token by people wanting to buy new cards. Naturally we can expect a general upward price trend for BCY considering that half of the BCY collected by EverdreamSoft in new card sales will be burned. I would expect inicial sale prices for new cards to be continually adjusted in view of the market dynamics of BCY price.

On the other hand, I suppose you are not aware of the fact that the partner store is now open and partners did in fact buy limited edition RIPPLECARD and BLOCKSIZECD today and will be able to continue doing so for another month, before sales of these cards will be opened to players with access to the premium store. So it is not accurate to state that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hours. There were also additional cards resold on the Counterparty DEX. I know cause I made a purchase there myself recently, and the TX information is freely available for anyone to check on blockscan.com.

Edit: BCY price went down significantly late monday night after someone dumped a large amount on poloniex so I suppose too high of a price for BCY will not be a concern for the time being Wink


Well I think that the bcy huge downside movement was not exactly voluntary  Roll Eyes . ( I was not in the book damn it!!!).

Thank you for the information about BlocksizeCD and Ripplecard I missed it.

Said that: volatility is an issue, specially in those very first day of bcy quotation, I,'m curios to see how everdreamsoft will manage it. Whit new card? Or adjusting the price (in Bcy) of the old card?


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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyi7yMsqDOxCzk2cf9slODeein2L4GCDVubCY706QR8/edit#gid=0

Huge day.

Now we stand at

785.436bcy from cards sold
392.718bcy to be burned this month

44.433.901 total free (not burned) bcy outstanding
0,88% to be burned as a % of free bcy this month
10,61% annualized burning rate.

Not so bad.

p.s. probably I miss something. I am not sure that those calc are right. So I apologize for any error.

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October 21, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
 #406

Bazaarcard Just Created, 1000pcs:
https://counterpartychain.io/asset/BAZAARCARD

Question is....
Is it a new SoG Card, or not?
Who knows  Cool

p.s. ehm... https://counterpartychain.io/address/1EewCNrN1oypSYZE81HBiqrjuhkLcz1qXR the owner
p.p.s. assuming that this is a new Sog Card, Will it refer to Open Bazaar?

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October 21, 2015, 11:11:29 AM
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Bazaarcard Just Created, 1000pcs:
https://counterpartychain.io/asset/BAZAARCARD

Question is....
Is it a new SoG Card, or not?
Who knows  Cool

p.s. ehm... https://counterpartychain.io/address/1EewCNrN1oypSYZE81HBiqrjuhkLcz1qXR the owner
p.p.s. assuming that this is a new Sog Card, Will it refer to Open Bazaar?

Sounds like next week's card!
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Bazaarcard Just Created, 1000pcs:
https://counterpartychain.io/asset/BAZAARCARD

Question is....
Is it a new SoG Card, or not?
Who knows  Cool

p.s. ehm... https://counterpartychain.io/address/1EewCNrN1oypSYZE81HBiqrjuhkLcz1qXR the owner
p.p.s. assuming that this is a new Sog Card, Will it refer to Open Bazaar?

Sounds like next week's card!

I think I think www.spellsofgenesis.com should give you a hint !

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Bazaarcard Just Created, 1000pcs:
https://counterpartychain.io/asset/BAZAARCARD

Question is....
Is it a new SoG Card, or not?
Who knows  Cool

p.s. ehm... https://counterpartychain.io/address/1EewCNrN1oypSYZE81HBiqrjuhkLcz1qXR the owner
p.p.s. assuming that this is a new Sog Card, Will it refer to Open Bazaar?

Sounds like next week's card!

I think I think www.spellsofgenesis.com should give you a hint !

Yep, looks like Open Bazaar to me!
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Last edit: October 22, 2015, 10:15:04 AM by hnin
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WELCOME TO OPEN BAZAAR

ASKIAN'S FREE MARKET FOR ALL

SoG is launching a new partner card, in collaboration with OpenBazaar.
OpenBazaar is a peer-to-peer marketplace, with no fees and restrictions, allowing
people to freely trade with each other.


BAZAARCARD, issued in a limited supply of 1 000 units, will be on sale from Thursday,
October 22nd, 3pm CEST
. Its initial price will be 400 BCY and the price schedule will be as
follows (all the times are indicated in CEST, unless otherwise specified):

Thu, Oct 22nd 3pm - 3:30pm: 400 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 3:30pm - 4pm: 500 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 4pm - 5pm: 600 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 5pm - Fri, Oct 23rd 10am: 800 BCY
Fri, Oct 23rd 10am - Wed, Oct 28th 10am CET: 1 000 BCY
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!



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WELCOME TO OPEN BAZAAR

ASKIAN'S FREE MARKET FOR ALL

SoG is launching a new partner card, in collaboration with OpenBazaar.
OpenBazaar is a peer-to-peer marketplace, with no fees and restrictions, allowing
people to freely trade with each other.


OPENBAZAAR card, issued in a limited supply of 1 000 units, will be on sale from Thursday,
October 22nd, 3pm CEST
. Its initial price will be 400 BCY and the price schedule will be as
follows (all the times are indicated in CEST, unless otherwise specified):

Thu, Oct 22nd 3pm - 3:30pm: 400 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 3:30pm - 4pm: 500 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 4pm - 5pm: 600 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 5pm - Fri, Oct 23rd 10am: 800 BCY
Fri, Oct 23rd 10am - Wed, Oct 28th 10am CET: 1 000 BCY
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY



COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION OF SOG BLOCKCHAIN-BASED TRADING CARDS!




and the winner is....... clap clap clap

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Last edit: October 21, 2015, 04:29:26 PM by coin@coin
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and the winner is....... clap clap clap

That's a gorgeous looking card have to say! One of the best so far.

Got to get me one of these... Or Two!!!
Plus I support what OpenBazaar is doing.

Imagine buying and selling SoG cards on OpenBazaar... Grin
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October 22, 2015, 11:00:28 AM
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I think that the Open Bazaar Card will be the best seller  SoG blockchain card ever.

Open Bazaar is a sort of magic project, i will buy one for sure, only to own one.

I will be surprise iif n the first day (today) we will stand under 80.000bcy collected for BazaarCard.

Wait and see....

p.s. but there is a problem, now the price in fiat money is realy huge, at 0.00095bcy/btc and 275$ btc/$ we are talking about 29.7$ for one card (regular price of 1200 bcy after early rebates). Only people from western world can afford it. Boy... is a card.

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October 22, 2015, 11:36:30 AM
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p.s. but there is a problem, now the price in fiat money is realy huge, at 0.00095bcy/btc and 275$ btc/$ we are talking about 29.7$ for one card (regular price of 1200 bcy after early rebates). Only people from western world can afford it. Boy... is a card.
Pretty good advantage for people who participated to the Token Sale Smiley Of course when the game will reach mainstream the price in BCY will be lower (and the value of BCY higher)

made a little youtube video viva you are quoted https://youtu.be/nyABCYwZYac



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BAZAARCARD, issued in a limited supply of 1 000 units, will be on sale from Thursday,
October 22nd, 3pm CEST
. Its initial price will be 400 BCY and the price schedule will be as
follows (all the times are indicated in CEST, unless otherwise specified):

Thu, Oct 22nd 3pm - 3:30pm: 400 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 3:30pm - 4pm: 500 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 4pm - 5pm: 600 BCY
Thu, Oct 22nd 5pm - Fri, Oct 23rd 10am: 800 BCY
Fri, Oct 23rd 10am - Wed, Oct 28th 10am CET: 1 000 BCY
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY


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p.s. but there is a problem, now the price in fiat money is realy huge, at 0.00095bcy/btc and 275$ btc/$ we are talking about 29.7$ for one card (regular price of 1200 bcy after early rebates). Only people from western world can afford it. Boy... is a card.
Pretty good advantage for people who participated to the Token Sale Smiley Of course when the game will reach mainstream the price in BCY will be lower (and the value of BCY higher)

made a little youtube video viva you are quoted https://youtu.be/nyABCYwZYac




So what hnin wrote was wrong?
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY
 If you plan to reduce price in BYC when game reach mainstream.
If that is a plan what is the meaning to buy cards now? if we will be able to get OPEN BAZAAR card for 40 BYC in a year from now?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyi7yMsqDOxCzk2cf9slODeein2L4GCDVubCY706QR8/edit#gid=0

as predicted the best seller ever is BazaarCard, maybe 100.000bcy in day one, wait and see

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October 22, 2015, 03:34:48 PM
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So what hnin wrote was wrong?
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY
 If you plan to reduce price in BCY when game reach mainstream.
If that is a plan what is the meaning to buy cards now? if we will be able to get OPEN BAZAAR card for 40 BYC in a year from now?

No the price won't be smashed down. But if the BCY goes 100 fold we might adjust price in order not to have 1000 USD per card (Until the whole supply is sold, then the market will set the price). Since we are burning BitCrystals every month we could reach a point where the price of a card could be even bigger than the market supply.
So the value in fiat currency (USD) won't go lower but higher. But in any case no quick decision without a community consultation.


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October 22, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
Last edit: October 22, 2015, 08:45:25 PM by Viva!
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So what hnin wrote was wrong?
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY
 If you plan to reduce price in BCY when game reach mainstream.
If that is a plan what is the meaning to buy cards now? if we will be able to get OPEN BAZAAR card for 40 BYC in a year from now?

No the price won't be smashed down. But if the BCY goes 100 fold we might adjust price in order not to have 1000 USD per card (Until the whole supply is sold, then the market will set the price). Since we are burning BitCrystals every month we could reach a point where the price of a card could be even bigger than the market supply.
So the value in fiat currency (USD) won't go lower but higher. But in any case no quick decision without a community consultation.



Yodark the solution is quite simple:
1) The price of the old card must remain the same over time, the fact that now those cards are overpriced in fiat money do define their rarity and it is the reward for early adopters.
But
2) The price of NEW cards Must be smashed now (imho). Let's say about 30%-40% less in bcy terms, to give a chance to buy one to not so wealthy people and most important to new adopters, those that did not do the crowdsale.
My take is: You really have to take in account bcy and bitcoin volatility by designing the new cards price curve on some fiat money alghoritm. After all, we hope (or think) that the most of the revenue stream and burning power will came from Apple Store and Google Play trought fiat money,sometime  in 2016.


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October 23, 2015, 07:59:44 AM
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 An advice:

In this moment Sjxcard priced in Sjcx is about 18% off than in Bcy (1620x0.00005638=0.0913btc vs 1200x0.00009=0.108btc)
[poloniex prices]

Check it:
https://swapbot.tokenly.com/bot/spellsofgenesis/sjcxcard-bot#choose

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October 23, 2015, 06:09:50 PM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyi7yMsqDOxCzk2cf9slODeein2L4GCDVubCY706QR8/edit#gid=0

Bazaarcard, more than 100.000bcy collected in 36 hours, the best selling card ever (and I have one!)

We have at least one more card for october, so we'll have more than 500.000bcy to be burned in October.

Awsome!

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