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February 24, 2014, 07:18:13 PM |
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Okay, thanks neilol and Pompobit! I'm thinking about making a purchase  |
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Elvis Trout
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February 24, 2014, 09:03:56 PM |
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So what's going on here, I sold all my AM shares a while ago, but is it still a going concern?
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February 24, 2014, 09:41:23 PM |
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I apologize for a stupid question, but are there other places where I can buy stocks of ASICMINER than Havelock Investments? And if not, do I get dividends to my personal BTC address or do I get them to my Havelock Investments account?
1) just on Havelock or direct shares contacting shareholders. Basically on forums in the auction threads or contacting them personally 2) on your Havelock account, but you can withdraw to your personal offline wallet at any time at no cost you could also try https://796.com/ HK website, they sell the AM100 equivalent, although I only use that site for it's RedStarMining (RSM) listing. They have been very reliable so far, depends who you think is more likely to interfere hongkong regulators of the US ones. DYOR  |
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freedomno1
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February 25, 2014, 02:31:43 AM |
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I apologize for a stupid question, but are there other places where I can buy stocks of ASICMINER than Havelock Investments? And if not, do I get dividends to my personal BTC address or do I get them to my Havelock Investments account?
1) just on Havelock or direct shares contacting shareholders. Basically on forums in the auction threads or contacting them personally 2) on your Havelock account, but you can withdraw to your personal offline wallet at any time at no cost Thinking about it bit of a side question but who handles Havelock transfers after March 1st is that TAT or did it change over to Havelock with the operator change, not sure if someone asked TAT that question yet. |
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miketonic
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February 25, 2014, 06:29:33 AM |
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I apologize for a stupid question, but are there other places where I can buy stocks of ASICMINER than Havelock Investments? And if not, do I get dividends to my personal BTC address or do I get them to my Havelock Investments account?
1) just on Havelock or direct shares contacting shareholders. Basically on forums in the auction threads or contacting them personally 2) on your Havelock account, but you can withdraw to your personal offline wallet at any time at no cost you could also try https://796.com/ HK website, they sell the AM100 equivalent, although I only use that site for it's RedStarMining (RSM) listing. They have been very reliable so far, depends who you think is more likely to interfere hongkong regulators of the US ones. DYOR Does ASICMINER have a list of shareholders and Havelock is just a broker? Or what happens for example if Havelock goes down and I have shares purchased from there? |
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February 25, 2014, 07:57:11 AM |
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Does ASICMINER have a list of shareholders and Havelock is just a broker? Or what happens for example if Havelock goes down and I have shares purchased from there?
ASICminer doesn't have list of Havelock shareholders, all shares are registered to PT issuer address, but if they don't plan to play fractional reserve with shares like Ukyo did, nothing wrong can happen. If yes, then well ... ask Bitfunder's traders. |
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Zubilica
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February 25, 2014, 08:36:39 AM |
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
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February 25, 2014, 09:15:12 AM |
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
On March 1, 2014, TAT Investments will transfer control of the AM1, AM100, and SMG listings at HavelockInvestments.com to the direct control of Havelock Investments.
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michaelGedi
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February 25, 2014, 10:41:14 AM |
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
A week ago, still waiting to be processed, going to send a reminder sometime later today... |
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February 25, 2014, 10:52:06 AM |
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
A week ago, still waiting to be processed, going to send a reminder sometime later today... is there like a deadline for converting AM1 to direct shares? Are you implying it wont be possible after TaT is out?  |
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minerpumpkin
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February 25, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
Yes, I've successfully submitted a transfer request. Last week friedcat processed the transfer and dividends too early and the request didn't arrive fast enough. But I received the email that the transfer request has been sent to friedcat. All pending transfers will be processed tomorrow, AFAIK. edit: Yes, as in 'I've submitted a request', they're not held hostage by Havelock. |
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michaelGedi
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February 25, 2014, 11:04:49 AM |
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So our shares are hold hostages at Havelock ? Anyone has tried to convert AM into Direct shares recently ?
Yes. Last week friedcat processed the transfer and dividends too early and the request didn't arrive fast enough. But I received the email that the transfer request has been sent to friedcat. All pending transfers will be processed tomorrow, AFAIK. ah so the transfers out from havelock normally occur once a week just before dividends? I guess no need for me to send any more mail in that case... |
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February 25, 2014, 11:15:42 AM |
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ah so the transfers out from havelock normally occur once a week just before dividends? I guess no need for me to send any more mail in that case...
Yeah, if other direct shareholders receive their dividend payments, but you don't, then follow up on the transfer. |
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February 25, 2014, 11:20:07 AM
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What changes once that TAT Investments transfers the control of AM1 to Havelock Investments? Maybe I'm missing something, because everybody is looking for converting them to direct shares and I just didn't though about it  In the case I want to do it too, what I need to do? just PM friedcat o email him? With any special info?  |
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ujka
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February 25, 2014, 11:27:30 AM |
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What changes once that TAT Investments transfers the control of AM1 to Havelock Investments? Maybe I'm losing some info, because everybody is looking for converting them to direct shares and I just didn't though about it In the case I want to do it too, what I need to do? just PM friedcat o email him? With any special info? Where do you see 'everybody' converting to direct? 18616 shares on havelock, was about the same last week. And month. Anyway, directions for converting are on havelock, first page of AM1. |
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February 25, 2014, 11:34:29 AM |
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Where do you see 'everybody' converting to direct?
18616 shares on havelock, was about the same last week. And month.
Anyway, direction for converting are on havelock, first page of AM1.
Just looking at the increasing number of posts regarding the change to direct shares over here... Makes me wonder if there is any disadvantage of holding havelock shares now that they are not going to be managed by TAT anymore... (different dividends percentage, or fees, or whatever) |
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February 25, 2014, 11:50:46 AM |
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Where do you see 'everybody' converting to direct?
18616 shares on havelock, was about the same last week. And month.
Anyway, direction for converting are on havelock, first page of AM1.
Just looking at the increasing number of posts regarding the change to direct shares over here... Makes me wonder if there is any disadvantage of holding havelock shares now that they are not going to be managed by TAT anymore... (different dividends percentage, or fees, or whatever) TaT basically says 'everything else stays the same' http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ye2wp/tat_investments_am1am100smg_update/cfjtb8w |
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AMuppInTime
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February 25, 2014, 05:06:03 PM |
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For all the Havelock folks - realize that you run the same risks as the guys who kept BTC at MtGox:
It is not wise to keep shares there (or BTC): Use exchanges to buy or sell, not store.
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miketonic
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February 25, 2014, 05:32:11 PM |
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For all the Havelock folks - realize that you run the same risks as the guys who kept BTC at MtGox:
It is not wise to keep shares there (or BTC): Use exchanges to buy or sell, not store.
This is exactly why I was asking. If my regular stock broker goes down, I don't lost my shares. But if Havelock goes down and my shares are not registered anywhere else, I lose control of them? |
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chriswilmer
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February 25, 2014, 05:47:38 PM |
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Guys, it's been a rough month for Bitcoin... but, news of an ASICMINER tapeout should be coming soon right? Right? I need some good news!
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