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willBTC
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February 26, 2014, 06:54:22 AM |
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It seems that havelock is down 
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ninjarobot
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February 26, 2014, 07:15:33 AM |
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It seems that havelock is down  Indeed. Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later. Perhaps overloaded from the Neo Bee trading?
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HeRetiK
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February 26, 2014, 07:27:18 AM |
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Dear AM Fund unit holders on Havelock,
We do understand your concern and we take the trust given to us by the shareholders of ASICMINER very seriously.
After March 1st, Havelock Investments will handle the Importing and Exporting of shares in and out of Havelock instead of TAT. Nothing in terms of fees will change. Instructions on how to import and export your shares will be available on our AM Fund page on Havelock Investments.
In the event that Havelock can no longer stay in business for whatever reason, shareholders will send us a dedicated Bitcoin address from their email address tied to their account on Havelock.
A list of the shareholders' Bitcoin address and the number of units they hold will be sent directly to friedcat with a request to transfer the shares to direct shares.
Feel free to contact us with any questions and concerns,
Havelock Investments
Would it be an option to hold a public shareholder list like Bitfunder used to? (with a public BTC address tied to each account)
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lunarboy
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February 26, 2014, 07:45:07 AM |
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Dear AM Fund unit holders on Havelock,
We do understand your concern and we take the trust given to us by the shareholders of ASICMINER very seriously.
After March 1st, Havelock Investments will handle the Importing and Exporting of shares in and out of Havelock instead of TAT. Nothing in terms of fees will change. Instructions on how to import and export your shares will be available on our AM Fund page on Havelock Investments.
In the event that Havelock can no longer stay in business for whatever reason, shareholders will send us a dedicated Bitcoin address from their email address tied to their account on Havelock.
A list of the shareholders' Bitcoin address and the number of units they hold will be sent directly to friedcat with a request to transfer the shares to direct shares.
Feel free to contact us with any questions and concerns,
Havelock Investments
I think this is something Havelock are suspiciously slow to implement. It should be mandatory for all companies listed on the exchange. Someone start a petition  Would it be an option to hold a public shareholder list like Bitfunder used to? (with a public BTC address tied to each account)
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sharky101
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February 26, 2014, 08:34:51 AM |
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Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon. After the failure of gen2, you would expect vital lessons would have been learnt for production of gen3?
Buying some shares now could be a good punt.
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willBTC
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February 26, 2014, 08:39:52 AM |
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Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon. After the failure of gen2, you would expect vital lessons would have been learnt for production of gen3?
Buying some shares now could be a good punt.
Gen2 is not a failure, Friedcat just weren't satisfied the power consumption of gen2 considering the strong competition in the near future. So just skip gen2 to gen3 for the benefit in the long term.
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jimmothy
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February 26, 2014, 08:50:21 AM |
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Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon. After the failure of gen2, you would expect vital lessons would have been learnt for production of gen3?
Buying some shares now could be a good punt.
Gen2 is not a failure, Friedcat just weren't satisfied the power consumption of gen2 considering the strong competition in the near future. So just skip gen2 to gen3 for the benefit in the long term. It was only a failure compared to gen3. If gen2 was not skipped we would have probably seen bitmain-like devices but that would also likely have delayed gen3. I think it was a good choice to skip gen2 since gen3 will destroy the competition sooner. 0.2w/$1/gh is unbeatable.
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willBTC
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February 26, 2014, 09:00:57 AM |
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Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon. After the failure of gen2, you would expect vital lessons would have been learnt for production of gen3?
Buying some shares now could be a good punt.
Gen2 is not a failure, Friedcat just weren't satisfied the power consumption of gen2 considering the strong competition in the near future. So just skip gen2 to gen3 for the benefit in the long term. It was only a failure compared to gen3. If gen2 was not skipped we would have probably seen bitmain-like devices but that would also likely have delayed gen3. I think it was a good choice to skip gen2 since gen3 will destroy the competition sooner. 0.2w/$1/gh is unbeatable. the consumption power will be higher than 0.2w/g ,maybe 0.4w/g. But still unbeatable.
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Lohoris
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February 26, 2014, 09:02:34 AM |
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Besides all that, I see no reason to give someone a board seat when they themselves do not have the stake in the company. When you hold shares on a PT, you give up a good bit.
Actually, it's the other way around. If you hold <5000 shares, you have exactly ZERO representation. If you hold shares of a PT, you can contact the PT operator and use him as a middleman between you and the board. It isn't much, but it's better then the absolute NOTHING you get with just holding a few shares. The PT operator might or might not comply, and if he doesn't, you can easily move your shares to direct.
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jimmothy
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February 26, 2014, 09:07:39 AM |
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Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon. After the failure of gen2, you would expect vital lessons would have been learnt for production of gen3?
Buying some shares now could be a good punt.
Gen2 is not a failure, Friedcat just weren't satisfied the power consumption of gen2 considering the strong competition in the near future. So just skip gen2 to gen3 for the benefit in the long term. It was only a failure compared to gen3. If gen2 was not skipped we would have probably seen bitmain-like devices but that would also likely have delayed gen3. I think it was a good choice to skip gen2 since gen3 will destroy the competition sooner. 0.2w/$1/gh is unbeatable. the consumption power will be higher than 0.2w/g ,maybe 0.4w/g. But still unbeatable. Forgot 0.2w/gh is for low power mode which we probably wont need for a while. Still impressive and will be useful in the long term. Actual specs according to FC Power Consumption: 0.2J/GHash low voltage, 0.35J/GHash rated voltage
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February 26, 2014, 09:46:51 AM |
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In the event that Havelock can no longer stay in business for whatever reason, shareholders will send us a dedicated Bitcoin address from their email address tied to their account on Havelock
I would hope that the address would be tied to the trader account BEFORE a shut down event. We all know how 'after the fact' works out. At least have the option for proactive customers to safeguard their investments. This worked smoothly with the BTC-TC shut down, with no panic or even worries - because it was all prearranged. ^^ THIS
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Lohoris
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February 26, 2014, 09:53:09 AM |
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In the event that Havelock can no longer stay in business for whatever reason, shareholders will send us a dedicated Bitcoin address from their email address tied to their account on Havelock
I would hope that the address would be tied to the trader account BEFORE a shut down event. We all know how 'after the fact' works out. At least have the option for proactive customers to safeguard their investments. This worked smoothly with the BTC-TC shut down, with no panic or even worries - because it was all prearranged. ^^ THIS Much agreed. Frankly I'm surprised they didn't realise it themselves...
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February 26, 2014, 10:08:16 AM |
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In the event that Havelock can no longer stay in business for whatever reason, shareholders will send us a dedicated Bitcoin address from their email address tied to their account on Havelock
I would hope that the address would be tied to the trader account BEFORE a shut down event. We all know how 'after the fact' works out. At least have the option for proactive customers to safeguard their investments. This worked smoothly with the BTC-TC shut down, with no panic or even worries - because it was all prearranged. ^^ THIS Much agreed. Frankly I'm surprised they didn't realise it themselves... You know, they're waiting for some hacker to remind them that its important ... like always in Bitcoinland ... lets see what's wrong with the database now
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February 26, 2014, 01:36:20 PM |
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Actually, it's the other way around.
If you hold <5000 shares, you have exactly ZERO representation.
If you hold shares of a PT, you can contact the PT operator and use him as a middleman between you and the board. It isn't much, but it's better then the absolute NOTHING you get with just holding a few shares. The PT operator might or might not comply, and if he doesn't, you can easily move your shares to direct.
Good point, but I would still say the costs outweigh the benefits when it comes to long term share holding. I do use havelock myself when I want to sell <10 shares
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SmiGueL
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February 26, 2014, 03:49:06 PM |
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0.00048517 BTC/share
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neilol
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February 26, 2014, 04:02:53 PM |
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0.00048517 BTC/share
Confirmed
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chriswilmer
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February 26, 2014, 05:22:48 PM |
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0.00048517 BTC/share
Confirmed You know. If the dividends didn't go up but never went lower than this, I would be OK with that  (Of course that is exactly what won't happen...)
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February 26, 2014, 07:56:59 PM |
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You know. If the dividends didn't go up but never went lower than this, I would be OK with that  (Of course that is exactly what won't happen...) You know. We have only 2 scenarios from here. week_div > 0.01 week_div == 0 Friedcat's turn
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chriswilmer
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February 26, 2014, 10:08:16 PM |
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Nice observation... probably just luck... but one can hope 
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