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August 06, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
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Next few weeks will see AM price go back down... $170 is not a realistic price for the security, puts a big valuation on a 1 year old business, especially considering the last few months financial performance...

We don't know the last few months financial performance. If you have such information, share it with the rest of us.

Lophie was saying the same thing last week and sold a load of shares causing the share price to drop to around 0.13 BTC. A couple of days later the share price was back up to 0.3 BTC. He hasn't been heard from since.

Now is just a proper silly time to sell. Mining restarted mid July and divs are set to start getting paid out this month.


Mabsark, you are your rationality are spoiling the fear and panic induced sell-offs some of us are waiting for. Shhhhhhh!  Grin

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August 06, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
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Originally, shares were $1 USD each (.1btc @ $10 USD/btc) so 5000 shares required an investment of $5,000 USD.

Now, shares are ~.25btc @ $580 or $145 each.  5000 shares would cost around $725,000 USD


I would like to propose a new tier of board member.  Currently it would seem that board members meet semi-monthly via a text based chat.  What if friedcat created a new tier, a view only board member or 'board viewer' that would be open to those share holders with >= 500 shares.  This would give some incentive for larger holders to hodl and would give smaller holders incentive to buy.

If the existing board members were amiable there could even be a side-channel chat where the viewers could pose questions to the board members with 'speak' and if they like the question, they could pose it to friedcat.

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I like it. But will FC agree? There is no reason for him to agree.
It would be more work, but it would also help maintain value of AM shares, which would benefit him seeing as how he owns ~250,000 shares

I like it too. He should listen his shareholders and boardmembers(!)  more, what are they telling him. He doesn't looks like experienced person and steps/decisions from gen1 were simply ... wrong. (Gen2 chip size,Gen3 performance,exchange,lot of promises about better PR,leaving self-mining,stopping production/sales of miners and focusing only on chip sales,very expensive immersion cooling solution and in the end helping the other companies/competitors grow)

After the months of cooperation with almost everybody, and helping everybody with ideas like open-source miners, now, he's shouting : Lets destroy all of them ! The goal is corner all competitors from market ... oh, ok. Show the AM hashrate then. Why is hidden, if you're mining? Something besides talks please, I am tired from talks/promises and plans.

Like in r/BitcoinMarkets we like to use : "Next few weeks are critical"

And they said bagholder wasn't belligerent, merely ironic.    Yup, this is the guy who should be communicating with Friedcat on behalf of the shareholders.     Roll Eyes
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August 06, 2014, 04:55:21 PM
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Could ASIC Miner be mining in Discus Fish?  It is now ~25% and has grown a lot in the last couple of months.

Discus Fish would make sense, I think it was once known as a private Chinese pool, but has been opened up since? If it really has a fee that's too high, I bet AM would be able to negotiate a better deal with their hash rate!

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August 06, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
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Shy, modest, genuine, hard-working, intelligent.  Needs to work out more and eat better.  Desperately needs a mama cat.  That's friedcat.

Hahahaha.  This is the best part. 

I never really got what they meant by "desperately needs a mama cat"... I mean... is this some cultural thing and got lost in translation or is it just outright odd? Cheesy
He needs a GF....jk probably something lost in translation

No, please FC, don't get a girlfriend! She would take up all his time and he couldn't work all night anymore Grin I'm all for him to become happy, but right now other things are mission critical, around here!

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Shy, modest, genuine, hard-working, intelligent.  Needs to work out more and eat better.  Desperately needs a mama cat.  That's friedcat.

Hahahaha.  This is the best part.  

I never really got what they meant by "desperately needs a mama cat"... I mean... is this some cultural thing and got lost in translation or is it just outright odd? Cheesy
He needs a GF....jk probably something lost in translation

No, please FC, don't get a girlfriend! She would take up all his time and he couldn't work all night anymore Grin I'm all for him to become happy, but right now other things are mission critical, around here!

A man doesn't need a girlfriend to be happy, especially when he can afford an army of top class whores to service all his wildest desires. Where do you think our dividends went?  Sad  Kiss  Grin That's where!
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Shy, modest, genuine, hard-working, intelligent.  Needs to work out more and eat better.  Desperately needs a mama cat.  That's friedcat.

Hahahaha.  This is the best part.  

I never really got what they meant by "desperately needs a mama cat"... I mean... is this some cultural thing and got lost in translation or is it just outright odd? Cheesy
He needs a GF....jk probably something lost in translation

No, please FC, don't get a girlfriend! She would take up all his time and he couldn't work all night anymore Grin I'm all for him to become happy, but right now other things are mission critical, around here!

A man doesn't need a girlfriend to be happy, especially when he can afford an army of top class whores to service all his wildest desires. Where do you think our dividends went?  Sad  Kiss  Grin That's where!

Oh noooooo! Grin That could explain why FC looked that meager. He just partied too hard! He's completely out of energy from having fun! I do believe men need a real significant other to receive true love, you can't get that from a prostitute Smiley

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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.




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Shy, modest, genuine, hard-working, intelligent.  Needs to work out more and eat better.  Desperately needs a mama cat.  That's friedcat.

Hahahaha.  This is the best part. 

I never really got what they meant by "desperately needs a mama cat"... I mean... is this some cultural thing and got lost in translation or is it just outright odd? Cheesy
He needs a GF....jk probably something lost in translation

No, please FC, don't get a girlfriend! She would take up all his time and he couldn't work all night anymore Grin I'm all for him to become happy, but right now other things are mission critical, around here!

A man doesn't need a girlfriend to be happy, especially when he can afford an army of top class whores to service all his wildest desires. Where do you think our dividends went?  Sad  Kiss  Grin That's where!

Oh noooooo! Grin That could explain why FC looked that meager. He just partied too hard! He's completely out of energy from having fun! I do believe men need a real significant other to receive true love, you can't get that from a prostitute Smiley

Hahaha, yeah! That would be crazy if friedcat indeed used the money to go and have a drink or something Cheesy But actually it wouldn't for us shareholders. I imagine him kicking over his glass of beer and everything spills into the immersion cooling tank, damaging all the freshly installed gen3 blades Sad

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August 06, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.






Kudos for making those graphs. I think they nicely visualize AM's price in another way. We're still almost at the all time low (since the downtrend started, or at least since the beginning of the year) in terms of USD-value. I'm really psyched to see what the future holds for those who hold AM!

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August 06, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.






Should've just held BTC. Can you add a graph adding all time dividends to the price of AM shares
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August 06, 2014, 10:25:23 PM
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Should've just held BTC. Can you add a graph adding all time dividends to the price of AM shares

Holding BTC has been a wise decision for a long time. Well, we're now supposedly at another bottom, so technically we've seen better times, but when it comes to crypto stocks, people tend to lose more money than they gain. So there's that.

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August 06, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
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Can you add a graph adding all time dividends to the price of AM shares

I am not sure what you mean Huh what would be all time dividend? i only have havelock's data.
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August 06, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.






Should've just held BTC. Can you add a graph adding all time dividends to the price of AM shares

This chart is misleading because it starts at the peak of the bubble instead of at IPO which was 0.1 btc/share and ~$10/btc.

And total dividends so far are ~0.57 btc/share.
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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.






Should've just held BTC. Can you add a graph adding all time dividends to the price of AM shares

This chart is misleading because it starts at the peak of the bubble instead of at IPO which was 0.1 btc/share and ~$10/btc.

very true, i should have mentioned it.

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And total dividends so far are ~0.57 btc/share.

ty good to know.
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August 07, 2014, 12:38:43 AM
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And total dividends so far are ~0.57 btc/share.


0.60289304 BTC/share

based on 0.42334498 BTC from btc-tc between 2013-03-06 20:05 and 2013-07-24 23:52 and 0.17954806 BTC from Havelock between 2013-07-31 and 2014-03-30.

BitFunder had 1 earlier entry than btc-tc but the dividends were 0 for that entry so BF can be ignored completely.

Here's the BTC-TC data if anyone wants it:
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keeping track of the 1w share price. BTC/USD rate is bitstamp's. BTC/AM is havelock's.






Cool charts its hard to figure out where convergence is guess that would be around a $200-250 range

0.60289304 BTC/share + Market still a good return for IPO buyers not sure when people would start holding losing positions though.
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Shy, modest, genuine, hard-working, intelligent.  Needs to work out more and eat better.  Desperately needs a mama cat.  That's friedcat.

Hahahaha.  This is the best part. 

I never really got what they meant by "desperately needs a mama cat"... I mean... is this some cultural thing and got lost in translation or is it just outright odd? Cheesy
He needs a GF....jk probably something lost in translation

No, please FC, don't get a girlfriend! She would take up all his time and he couldn't work all night anymore Grin I'm all for him to become happy, but right now other things are mission critical, around here!

A man doesn't need a girlfriend to be happy, especially when he can afford an army of top class whores to service all his wildest desires. Where do you think our dividends went?  Sad  Kiss  Grin That's where!

Oh noooooo! Grin That could explain why FC looked that meager. He just partied too hard! He's completely out of energy from having fun! I do believe men need a real significant other to receive true love, you can't get that from a prostitute Smiley

Hahaha, yeah! That would be crazy if friedcat indeed used the money to go and have a drink or something Cheesy But actually it wouldn't for us shareholders. I imagine him kicking over his glass of beer and everything spills into the immersion cooling tank, damaging all the freshly installed gen3 blades Sad
Seriously guys, FC is a millionaire many times over. This reminds me of people watching finals tennis and not realising - it's one multi millionaire playing another multi millionaire.

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August 07, 2014, 05:34:52 AM
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All I want is divs and a financial statement, but mostly divs. sadly, I have a feeling this wont happen until the very latest date, possibly missing august deadline and arriving some time later. expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised when anything greater happens. It beats sweating out an entire month in frantic anticipation.
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August 07, 2014, 05:42:03 AM
Last edit: August 07, 2014, 06:03:03 AM by hdbuck
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All I want is divs and a financial statement, but mostly divs. sadly, I have a feeling this wont happen until the very latest date, possibly missing august deadline and arriving some time later. expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised when anything greater happens. It beats sweating out an entire month in frantic anticipation.

+1 the most important point being AM is looking in the right direction & working hard (under-promise/over-deliveringTM)

ps: haha.. gog & magog ^^
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August 07, 2014, 05:48:01 AM
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All I want is divs and a financial statement, but mostly divs. sadly, I have a feeling this wont happen until the very latest date, possibly missing august deadline and arriving some time later. expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised when anything greater happens. It beats sweating out an entire month in frantic anticipation.

True enough it's been a very long wait more or less waiting but I guess not in immediate anticipation when the dividends start streaming in that's when its worth looking at again Smiley.
If it can keep to the schedule that would be great though.
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