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August 25, 2014, 06:02:03 PM
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Did a bit of blockchain.info shoveling and found 2 IPs that came from china and found blocks in the last 4 days.

https://blockchain.info/blocks/223.244.137.22 (found 1 block to date)
https://blockchain.info/blocks/58.241.250.107 (found 2 blocks to date)

I was about to post this, then looked at the output address and noticed it was the same. https://blockchain.info/address/1GcF7j3YH8Qs8hvNEe7zbrQZftMU6sRLfu This address is getting blocks form IPs all over the world! So I'm guessing this has nothing to do with ASICminer. But it's still really interesting. Huh

SO, from my cursory look. There are a few options:

1.) They are solo mining and didn't get any blocks in the last 4 days
2.) They are solo mining and their IP is obfuscated.
3.) They are mining in a pool.
4.) They are not mining.

I will be looking at the blockchain for suitable candidates and report back if I find anything.


Interesting.


Well, #4 can likely be ruled out barring something severe in the background as AM revealed self-mining was up and running back in the middle of July. My gut tells me that reality lies with #2 or #3.

I think that #3 is most likely the case...probably Discus Fish. 

I also think #3 is the most likely. Many people here just assumed AM would go straight back to solo mining. I don't know why they would assume that.
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August 25, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
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It's goin real well in the hardware thread.



Not sure if that is enough, guess I have to separate them out...  FUN!



Wow, so much fail with the AM tube so far.

Almost as fun as pin the tail on the mining address.

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August 25, 2014, 09:00:20 PM
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It would be idiotic to be telegraphing the company's next moves to the competition.

I don't think it would be idiotic, just a waste of time as they would be stating the obvious. What are AM going to do next?

Keep producing miners to sell or self-mine with.
Produce more gen 3 chips if profitable.
Buy the gen 4 mask.

It's hardly rocket science now is it. I don't understand why people pretend that this info is super valuable and under no circumstances can be allowed to fall into competitors hands. What exactly are competitors going to do apart from the exact same thing they were going to do anyway? Build and sell/use miners.

I agree with you about the rest though.

It is still a business afterall, and there should be some strategic moves that must be kept confidential.
Business is a war, better take the competition by surprise.
I didn't think it was needed to be explained.
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August 25, 2014, 10:00:43 PM
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Wasn't the exclusive interview suppose to take place over the weekend?  Any information about the answers to the questions?
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August 26, 2014, 01:37:47 AM
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IF I had to guess what happened to the network over the past 24-48 hours, I think that AM+others' hashing power that was added to the network may have forced some of Ghash's older, less efficient equipment off the network.  Either that, or AM had actually been mining with Ghash and left...
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August 26, 2014, 03:05:47 AM
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IF I had to guess what happened to the network over the past 24-48 hours, I think that AM+others' hashing power that was added to the network may have forced some of Ghash's older, less efficient equipment off the network.  Either that, or AM had actually been mining with Ghash and left...

Time window is too small to jump to any conclusion, the graph shows extreme spike just from normal variation alone.

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png

looking through the thread, is AM just selling equipment?  what about franchising and self-mine?
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IF I had to guess what happened to the network over the past 24-48 hours, I think that AM+others' hashing power that was added to the network may have forced some of Ghash's older, less efficient equipment off the network.  Either that, or AM had actually been mining with Ghash and left...

Time window is too small to jump to any conclusion, the graph shows extreme spike just from normal variation alone.

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png

looking through the thread, is AM just selling equipment?  what about franchising and self-mine?

It is, that's true, although that's a serious amount of hashing power to fall off Ghash's roster regardless, even for 2 days.  Ghash is the only pool with a statistically significant change in their hashing power - no way their output fell by luck alone.


Almost as fun as pin the tail on the mining address.

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August 26, 2014, 07:19:01 AM
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sent a PM to hl5460 asking when they were expecting to have the interview up (wasn't trying to rush them, just wanted to know if it was going to be like the bitell interview/non-interview).

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Our guy just came back to the office this morning. We will rush him to produce the feedbacks.
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August 26, 2014, 09:35:27 AM
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I just noticed AM's forum ad for the first time (the one after the first post on a page). Nice. Smiley
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August 26, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
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I just noticed AM's forum ad for the first time (the one after the first post on a page). Nice. Smiley

Yeah it's a great advertising! Now, what are everyones guesses: Will there be dividends in August? Maybe already this wednesday?

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August 26, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
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GHash.IO back up a couple of %... It might've been an outage or just variance after all. Total hash rate is back from the previous spike, though. Could also be that another party had extreme luck over the past few days...

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Friedcat Hardware Sales Update (cross-post):

Round 2 Sales
Full 10-devices set including:
  40 Hashing Units
  40 Thermal Pads
  3 Ethernet Controllers (1 for redundancy. One controller can in principle drive as many as 8 full devices)
  10 Cooling Kits
  10 Fans
  Free Assembling
9.9 BTC/set

Hashing Unit: 0.210 BTC/piece for <400 pieces
                   MOQ at 40 pieces. (Each unit hashes at 200-215GH/s in typical clock)

Thermal Pad: 0.007 BTC/piece. MOQ at 40 pieces.

Ethernet Controller: 0.069 BTC/piece. MOQ at 2 pieces.

Cooling Kit: 0.069 BTC/set. MOQ at 10 sets.

Fan: 0.014 BTC/piece. MOQ at 10 pieces.

For orders equal to or larger than 10 full sets (100 devices) or 400 pieces of hashing units, please contact
Phasebird or sale@bitquan.com. The price depends on order size.

Shipping Dates are from 27th August to 6th September.

That's about 8 TH/s (minimum) for about $5100 or roughly $0.64/GH for in-stock hardware
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Friedcat Hardware Sales Update (cross-post):

Round 2 Sales
Full 10-devices set including:
  40 Hashing Units
  40 Thermal Pads
  3 Ethernet Controllers (1 for redundancy. One controller can in principle drive as many as 8 full devices)
  10 Cooling Kits
  10 Fans
  Free Assembling
9.9 BTC/set

Hashing Unit: 0.210 BTC/piece for <400 pieces
                   MOQ at 40 pieces. (Each unit hashes at 200-215GH/s in typical clock)

Thermal Pad: 0.007 BTC/piece. MOQ at 40 pieces.

Ethernet Controller: 0.069 BTC/piece. MOQ at 2 pieces.

Cooling Kit: 0.069 BTC/set. MOQ at 10 sets.

Fan: 0.014 BTC/piece. MOQ at 10 pieces.

For orders equal to or larger than 10 full sets (100 devices) or 400 pieces of hashing units, please contact
Phasebird or sale@bitquan.com. The price depends on order size.

Shipping Dates are from 27th August to 6th September.

That's about 8 TH/s (minimum) for about $5100 or roughly $0.64/GH for in-stock hardware

Holy cow! Makes you wonder how much they pay for the actual production. If they use even bigger machines, they really seem to be able to push the price down for their self-mining. The move to price the machines so low seems to be part of the "squeeze the competition" plan.

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August 26, 2014, 04:23:33 PM
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Starting to feel like April of 2013 in here.


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Friedcat Hardware Sales Update (cross-post):

Round 2 Sales
Full 10-devices set including:
  40 Hashing Units
  40 Thermal Pads
  3 Ethernet Controllers (1 for redundancy. One controller can in principle drive as many as 8 full devices)
  10 Cooling Kits
  10 Fans
  Free Assembling
9.9 BTC/set

Hashing Unit: 0.210 BTC/piece for <400 pieces
                   MOQ at 40 pieces. (Each unit hashes at 200-215GH/s in typical clock)

Thermal Pad: 0.007 BTC/piece. MOQ at 40 pieces.

Ethernet Controller: 0.069 BTC/piece. MOQ at 2 pieces.

Cooling Kit: 0.069 BTC/set. MOQ at 10 sets.

Fan: 0.014 BTC/piece. MOQ at 10 pieces.

For orders equal to or larger than 10 full sets (100 devices) or 400 pieces of hashing units, please contact
Phasebird or sale@bitquan.com. The price depends on order size.

Shipping Dates are from 27th August to 6th September.

That's about 8 TH/s (minimum) for about $5100 or roughly $0.64/GH for in-stock hardware

Holy cow! Makes you wonder how much they pay for the actual production. If they use even bigger machines, they really seem to be able to push the price down for their self-mining. The move to price the machines so low seems to be part of the "squeeze the competition" plan.

lol it reminds me the 400 Gh bitfury rig i bought for $5200 back in october Grin
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August 26, 2014, 04:50:25 PM
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Starting to feel like April of 2013 in here.

How so?
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August 26, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
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Starting to feel like April of 2013 in here.

How so?


Back then I remember a lot of talk about making the hashrate public for shareholders to see, speculation on how much TH's was coming online for that week, etc. The climate feels similar, more hashrate is being added and presumably FC will post some good news soon and fireworks commence.
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August 26, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
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A bit of a shameless plug but I would ask those who have a Reddit account to upvote this post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2emwsg/asicminer_hardware_sales_round_2_inhand_hardware/

Everyone here is welcome to do the same thing and encouraged to post on other social media platforms for a larger AM awareness.

More Awareness -> More Interested Parties -> Larger Sales Volume -> Better for Shareholders

Now is the time to let every other subforum on Bitcointalk know (preferably in a non-annoying way) that AM has the hardware to ship if they're interested.
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August 26, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
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A bit of a shameless plug but I would ask those who have a Reddit account to upvote this post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2emwsg/asicminer_hardware_sales_round_2_inhand_hardware/

Everyone here is welcome to do the same thing and encouraged to post on other social media platforms for a larger AM awareness.

More Awareness -> More Interested Parties -> Larger Sales Volume -> Better for Shareholders

That reddit post is useless w/o any link to e.g. the sales thread.
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August 26, 2014, 11:01:17 PM
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Yeah, the link is pointing back to that very same reddit post. Mistake probably?

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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