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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3914124 times)
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September 12, 2014, 01:04:14 PM
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Yesterday wasn't a big surprise.  But, it also wasn't a big event.
Now, if it kept paying out 10BTC every hour, and didn't stop... that might have been a big event.

I do expect more of these smaller events to start happening.
Mining.
Equipment sales.
Chip sales.
Franchise mining.
People aren't sitting on their thumbs - there are lots of coins sitting somewhere.
And will probably start consolidating in known addresses

And then you have Gen4 on the horizon...

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September 12, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
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Yes, this is very interesting.
However, for the moment, FC should be 100% concentrated on getting AM on track in current model (chips, miners, self-mining) - just a matter of priority.
When AM claims, in sustainable way, let's say equivalent of 25%-30% of network hashrate, then such ideas could be absolutely great for the more distant future.

In my view AM has already lost the mining game with both miners sold to customers and the self-mining. I mean Bitfury who started later than AM has/had ~40%-50% of the network hashrate at one point just a few months ago. Even KnC started with one 10MW DC and now they have 3 DCs. If they can do it then AM, who had the head start could do it too, but at this point they just don't matter. Call it trolling or whatever, but it's just my opinion based on what's going on: low sales, no information about the self-mining hashrate. As always feel free to contradict me with facts instead of calling me names.

FACT: You don't have any information to be making the claim that miners are not selling as well as expected. You don't have the necessary info to backup the majority of your claims.
FACT: You keep making stuff up and presenting it as facts when it's actually just opinion.
FACT: With PSU and shipping included, 3 Tubes costs less than a single SP20 and will provide 2.4 Th/s compared to 1.7 Th/s.
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September 12, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
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FACT: You don't have any information to be making the claim that miners are not selling as well as expected. You don't have the necessary info to backup the majority of your claims.
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None of you have any info, because no one who does is talking to you.
Two possible reasons for this:

  1.  Things are going swimmingly, and Friedcat enjoys trolling you.
  2.  Things are, indeed, as ass as they seem Smiley

Not that I don't enjoy your pep talks, Mabsurk, I do.  Something romantic about doggedly sticking to untenable positions, and fuck logic and common sense.
And, I won't lie, there's teh lulz.
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September 12, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
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Lulz


Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss
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September 12, 2014, 04:34:52 PM
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Which scam thread do I remember you from, hdbuck?   Not that it matters, they're all basically the same.  Did it go something like this?
  
  1.  I called a scam.
  2.  You thought you knew better.
  3.  You raged.
  4.  The scam, as promised, turned out to be a scam.
  5.  You forgot to admit your stupidity and apologise, because stupid.

Just for giggles, tho, which one was it?  No lying now, you're probably no better at that than at investin' Angry

  ~Happy Investing!
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September 12, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
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Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss

I don't know why you're even bothering wasting your time with this person. Just stick him on ignore. He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

His rambling is just boring and predictable at this point.
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September 12, 2014, 04:51:18 PM
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I just don't get why Friedcat can't acknowledge that he missed his target of dividends by end of August and present a new target or goal that will be accomplished by a certain timeline. It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast.

Friedcat, you're responsible to shareholders. Please start giving a little more information so were not just blowing in the wind.

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September 12, 2014, 04:52:16 PM
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... He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

...and hasn't been wrong ONCE.

Either i'm really smart, or you're really stupid for "investing" in a market where EVERYTHING is a scam, or, at best, an honest failure.  

Food for thought Smiley
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September 12, 2014, 04:59:01 PM
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Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss

I don't know why you're even bothering wasting your time with this person. Just stick him on ignore. He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

His rambling is just boring and predictable at this point.
If you plant enough seeds one of them is bound to grow
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September 12, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
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If you plant enough seeds one of them is bound to grow
If they all grow, however...

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September 12, 2014, 06:37:04 PM
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Funny how this thread was really readable for a few days while the trolls were hiding.
Must be the weekend that brought them out of their holes...  Grin
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September 12, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
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It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast. 

"Hopefully August divs" was info passed on to us 2nd hand, not from Friedcat. 
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September 12, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
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It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast. 

"Hopefully August divs" was info passed on to us 2nd hand, not from Friedcat. 

FC would not say something he would not be sure of (ie. he would not lie). Whether you can deal with it or not, it is a business philosophy i am more confident with.
But i get it that it could also appear as some treachery to other people. At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.
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September 12, 2014, 07:07:45 PM
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I am still holding and even adding to my position but Friedcat really has shown a total disregard towards communication with shareholders and setting any sort of solid goal or update.

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September 12, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
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At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.

Yes... because "big boys" invest using their "guts" in anonymous online companies with no investor relations, no financial data, multiple generations of failed/underperforming products, and an anonymous CEO who goes by "friedcat".
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At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.

Yes... because "big boys" invest using their "guts" in anonymous online companies with no investor relations, no financial data, multiple generations of failed/underperforming products, and an anonymous CEO who goes by "friedcat".

pff you dont even wanna know how big boys do in "classic" investment scheme. Roll Eyes Grin

edit: point is, sometimes risk pays, sometimes it doesnt.

edit adit: and i got my own jimminy cricket. ^^
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September 12, 2014, 07:58:02 PM
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FACT: With PSU and shipping included, 3 Tubes costs less than a single SP20 and will provide 2.4 Th/s compared to 1.7 Th/s.

But you also have to pay and support 2.4kW if you buy the tubes where if you buy the SP20 you only need to pay and support for 1.1kW.

Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

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September 12, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
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Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.
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September 12, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
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Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.

Roadstress has a hard time managing a few topics.  In example, he believes that if a miner in its entire lifetime earns 5btc and costs 5btc (purchase +power)  then it's better to have your coins tied up in the miner instead of holding them because if you hold them you might get emotional and panic sell when you shouldnt.
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September 12, 2014, 08:14:06 PM
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Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.

How about we agree on "Future FACT"?

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Roadstress has a hard time managing a few topics.  In example, he believes that if a miner in its entire lifetime earns 5btc and costs 5btc (purchase +power)  then it's better to have your coins tied up in the miner instead of holding them because if you hold them you might get emotional and panic sell when you shouldnt.

You have been paying attention, not like the others. I salute you!

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