ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Lincoln6Echo]

How do we know his wife, out of curiosity?

I think this Amhash guy talked about this ,,friedcat left without contacting his wife etc''. Bullshit. I think it was a planned exit. That yould explain the  pics of the former abandoned office of asciminer, too.
The office got cleared and not a single person knows where friedcat moved exaclty? Srly?

[SebastianJu]

How do we know his wife, out of curiosity?

I think this Amhash guy talked about this ,,friedcat left without contacting his wife etc''. Bullshit. I think it was a planned exit. That yould explain the  pics of the former abandoned office of asciminer, too.
The office got cleared and not a single person knows where friedcat moved exaclty? Srly?

Weren't the offices abandoned because the employees didn't get their payment anymore and nobody knew where friedcat was and nobody had seen him?

This is really way too strange. I don't understand why there are no big shareholders investigating. I mean there should be a lot chines shareholders. They could speak with every former employee and collect all info. Then find out what might have happened.

[Blazed]

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

[SebastianJu]

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

[dhenson]

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

Shortly before everything went down, Jutarul flew to China and met with Friedcat and Co.  Then, when he first disappeared and everyone was speculating (March 3rd 2015), Friedcats main mining address where his funds were being placed paid out 3 large payments (5456btc, 2125btc and 9650 btc transactions).  

https://blockchain.info/address/15h6A2a3D31vRviBDdSpvhLtYJq3aePhdW

My assumption has been that he paid off the largest holders and ran. This is obviously compete speculation on my part.

[Lincoln6Echo]

Multiple product failures so he decided to cut and run. Not sure why anyone would even consider some other possibility.

I mean it really can't be that hard for shareholders in china to investigate this, isn't it? Check out his wife, his employers and all. And surely you will get your own image of everything. Alone that fact that we "believe" that the story about his wife is only an invention is stupid somehow. Nobody can check it? Really? That sounds unbelieveable.

If i would have been heavily invested AND still had enough money to do it, i surely would fly there for a month and check everything out. That this didn't happen is puzzling me... really. Nothing but mist clouds in this case.

Shortly before everything went down, Jutarul flew to China and met with Friedcat and Co.  Then, when he first disappeared and everyone was speculating (March 3rd 2015), Friedcats main mining address where his funds were being placed paid out 3 large payments (5456btc, 2125btc and 9650 btc transactions).  

https://blockchain.info/address/15h6A2a3D31vRviBDdSpvhLtYJq3aePhdW

My assumption has been that he paid off the largest holders and ran. This is obviously compete speculation on my part.

Well, that assumption makes sense. How do you know Jutarul flew there just before Friedcat disappeared? A couple of month ago I asked Jutarul via  PM whether he got some information about this whole asicminer situation but never got any reply.

[SebastianJu]

Hm, sounds like an interesting idea. Though you would have to assume that the largest shareholders would all be ok with screwing everyone then. I know many scammers are in bitcoin world but i somehow doubt that this could easily happen.

Though maybe it was no payout for the largest shareholders but for friedcats direct partners he built the company from the ground. There were a couple of them right? Three maybe?

And would the amount of bitcoins paid out make sense as a payment for the success of the company and for keeping silent over all things happened? I think they would not be happy if friedcat would take a enourmous share and they get, comparable, peanuts.

[dhenson]

Well, that assumption makes sense. How do you know Jutarul flew there just before Friedcat disappeared? A couple of month ago I asked Jutarul via  PM whether he got some information about this whole asicminer situation but never got any reply.

I looked back through my PM history and his trip to China was Nov. so not immediately before, but close enough.

[kunac]

How's my investment?

[SebastianJu]

How's my investment?

Was that an attempt to joke?

[canth]

How's my investment?

It's somewhere between SNAFU and FUBAR.

[Cablez]

How's my investment?

It ran ran away.........snicker.

[ZephramC]

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the owed unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? 

[bjack0815]

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the owed unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? 

Maybe he's waiting for someone who pays him 5BTC each share...

[ZephramC]

How's my investment?

Are you looking forward when all the owed unpaid dividends since March 2014 arrive at once? 

Maybe he's waiting for someone who pays him 5BTC each share...

Well, 4 - 4.5 BTC should be enough. But perhaps this extra 0.5-1 BTC/share should be compensation for the long wait and uncertainty. 

[iCEBREAKER]

How's my investment?

According to RoadStress, your investment is fine.

AM isn't a scam.

The party who suffered is only the company and its shareholders and it was by pure theft or malicious third-party (we still don't have any proof about anything regarding this)! Also it should be noted that the damage wasn't made by unrealistic/optimistic promises or by purely lies by the company towards its customers like in HashFail's case.

See?  All good!

AM "isn't a scam" and no damage was caused by their "unrealistic/optimistic promises."

Time to load up on the cheap shares!

[glendall]

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

[gogxmagog]

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

[SebastianJu]

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

I think the reason is speculation. They know it is dead but it can't become worse. So when the price would be a satoshi then what can happen? 2 Satoshies? Then this would be a profit of 100%. That's the reason why many people trade altcoins. Though the volume is pretty low.

I really don't think any of them believes that the company has a promising future.

[Swordsoffreedom]

What's truly funny is the shares still being traded on havelock. Even at junk prices, the company doesn't even really exist anymore and still people are trading them like any scammy crapcoin.

Exactly. It's no wonder every single offering here is some scam or fail. Obviously people will invest in anything, even a dead horse.

I think the reason is speculation. They know it is dead but it can't become worse. So when the price would be a satoshi then what can happen? 2 Satoshies? Then this would be a profit of 100%. That's the reason why many people trade altcoins. Though the volume is pretty low.

I really don't think any of them believes that the company has a promising future.

It a weird game of cat and mouse
I know its worth 0 you know its worth 0 but we want to see if someone else will sell it at a higher price than they bought it.
Basically a ponzi that doesn't really shut down until havelock finally delists it.