ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[primeminer]

new amhash announcement - which make even less sense:

 Announcement:
03/22/2015 Update:
Dividends deduct
We will deduct the dividends(0.11973BTC/GHS) from 9th Feb - 9th Mar(20150208-20150309) as we have not received the dividends from ASICMiner since 8th Feb
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关于AMHash暂停分红的公告(The Announcement of AMHash Dividends Suspending)

[keystroke]

I remember a time when people were afraid of ASICMINER possibly 51% attacking the network. How times change!

[primeminer]

I remember a time when people were afraid of ASICMINER possibly 51% attacking the network. How times change!

I remember cex having more than 50% hash rate...

[flame1012]

Asicminer can still revive and come back.
They just need to be wise.

[AirWolf]

Msg for Jutarul/AM/RM:

Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc.....

[muyuu]

Asicminer can still revive and come back.
They just need to be wise.

Set that bet up and I will be happy to oblige.

https://bitbet.us/

[flame1012]

Asicminer should make their 4th generation before others and make 14 nm chips to beat the competition
A hard task but doable.

[TheRealSteve]

Asicminer should make their 4th generation before others and make 14 nm chips to beat the competition
A hard task but doable.

If they (claim they) don't have the liquidity for rolling out at 28nm, they'll have to reach into some deep pockets to go to 16/14. Last they mused about that was Q4 2014.

[jdany]

Asicminer should make their 4th generation before others and make 14 nm chips to beat the competition
A hard task but doable.

They could - but securing funding at this stage is almost impossible.  I talk to money pretty regularly, and money keeps saying - "No effing way."

I still find it so hard to believe they are short on cash.  
Either there was a massive amount of theft or embezzlement, or the most inept company on the planet.

If they just would have been honest with investors from the beginning, this thing would have gone down totally different.  They had a fanbase of customers and investors that would have made magical things happen.  They didn't have faith in their customers or investors - and starved everyone out.

[flame1012]

I totally agree about being honest with customers and investors.

[Blazed]

Asicminer should make their 4th generation before others and make 14 nm chips to beat the competition
A hard task but doable.

They could - but securing funding at this stage is almost impossible.  I talk to money pretty regularly, and money keeps saying - "No effing way."

I still find it so hard to believe they are short on cash.  
Either there was a massive amount of theft or embezzlement, or the most inept company on the planet.

If they just would have been honest with investors from the beginning, this thing would have gone down totally different.  They had a fanbase of customers and investors that would have made magical things happen.  They didn't have faith in their customers or investors - and starved everyone out.

Why would anyone want to invest that cash into AM though? They are much better off just buying the chip design and not being stuck with all the negatives. Also it sounds like AM is just a nickname for FriedCat since they can not do anything without him...let a lone sell the IP. Unless FriedCat ends his vacation early nothing is going to happen at all.

[flame1012]

I wish they get it somehow right, for the sake of their investors at least.

[Fordee]

Why cant they setup a new farm with remaining chips and use it to refund themselves?

Seriously, the 28nm chip is nice, but they have a proven design and plans for the 45nm and chips in stock..   They should get as many devices running as possible while they can.. If BTC hasn't dramatically risen by the halving the 28nm isnt worth running let alone making.   If it does skyrockaet the  AM can use BTC Earned currently, skip the 28nm and go to 20 directly.  The future is to uncertain for any company right now to create a new mask..   using current resources might be the best choice..

[primeminer]

Why cant they setup a new farm with remaining chips and use it to refund themselves?

Seriously, the 28nm chip is nice, but they have a proven design and plans for the 45nm and chips in stock..   They should get as many devices running as possible while they can.. If BTC hasn't dramatically risen by the halving the 28nm isnt worth running let alone making.   If it does skyrockaet the  AM can use BTC Earned currently, skip the 28nm and go to 20 directly.  The future is to uncertain for any company right now to create a new mask..   using current resources might be the best choice..

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense

[Mikestang]

Asicminer can still revive and come back.
They just need to be wise.

If by wise you mean with a totally new name and new staff and no ties to AM then I would say... maybe.

But to revive as they sit today?  No way, not gonna happen.  Anyone stupid enough to support that endeavor deserves to lose everything they pour into it.

[Fordee]

Why cant they setup a new farm with remaining chips and use it to refund themselves?

Seriously, the 28nm chip is nice, but they have a proven design and plans for the 45nm and chips in stock..   They should get as many devices running as possible while they can.. If BTC hasn't dramatically risen by the halving the 28nm isnt worth running let alone making.   If it does skyrockaet the  AM can use BTC Earned currently, skip the 28nm and go to 20 directly.  The future is to uncertain for any company right now to create a new mask..   using current resources might be the best choice..

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense

Uh huh.. Rather than call 'nonsense' try critical thinking:
 
Asicminer needs to either close up shop now, or use their resources.. they've apparently chosen the latter.  Whether divs will ever again  be paid to the holdrrs isnt what I asked.

They have enough BE200 chips left of the 60PH or a few thousand devices.  They should put them to use and save the company...the chips are still competitive for a manufacturer to use...  either that or give them away and close the doors.   

Calling exit scam on Friedcat doesnt make sense...  neither does letting the 45nm maskmsit gathering dust. ...and Ponzi on AM shareholders isnt possible either....   You cant just get an account at TMSC by knocking on the door...you have to pass scrutiny and have a real world presence.

Yes AMHash is fucked, but AM as a company could still be worth a few $ to someone who wants to enter the bitcoin space in china or elsewhere... They really dont have that many liabilities on the books. And a competitive chip Design ready to roll.

[RoadStress]

Uh huh.. Rather than call 'nonsense' try critical thinking:
 
Asicminer needs to either close up shop now, or use their resources.. they've apparently chosen the latter.  Whether divs will ever again  be paid to the holdrrs isnt what I asked.

They have enough BE200 chips left of the 60PH or a few thousand devices.  They should put them to use and save the company...the chips are still competitive for a manufacturer to use...  either that or give them away and close the doors.   

Calling exit scam on Friedcat doesnt make sense...  neither does letting the 45nm maskmsit gathering dust. ...and Ponzi on AM shareholders isnt possible either....   You cant just get an account at TMSC by knocking on the door...you have to pass scrutiny and have a real world presence.

Yes AMHash is fucked, but AM as a company could still be worth a few $ to someone who wants to enter the bitcoin space in china or elsewhere... They really dont have that many liabilities on the books. And a competitive chip Design ready to roll.

I suggest you to try to think before you speak/write anything. Are you aware of the costs needed to deploy miners from chip to full working units? Are you aware of the current profitability considering the market conditions? Are you aware of the costs and the work needed to setup a DC to have the miners running? Are you aware of how much money AM currently has? Or how much did they have before FC vanished?

[Fordee]

I suggest you to try to think before you speak/write anything.

Ok.

Are you aware of the costs needed to deploy miners from chip to full working units?

Yes. - Current industry.

Are you aware of the current profitability considering the market conditions?

Yes. - I started mining with FPGAs... Do you know what that acronym even means?  See above.

Market conditions?   Oh, you mean Bitfury, SP, Bitmain... (Quality competitors)  Or hashrate/difficulty?  (Currently at 329,448,950 GH/s & Diff Approx 46,717,549,600).

Or How cheap can I steal my electricity?  

You got me there, I can't... But I doubt other legitimate mines do either.. and they remain competitive.

Are you aware of the costs and the work needed to setup a DC to have the miners running?

Yes..    Cooling and electricity aside, i'm all running short on chicken farms and skyrise condos, though I do have a few Cisco's kicking around here somewhere.

Are you aware of how much money AM currently has? Or how much did they have before FC vanished?

No, and Neither do you.   I'm sure you read the same financials that everyone has.

So please.. Contribute positively, or Shut the FUCK up... ( "Go eat a bag of dicks", or whatever it is you kids say these days.)  

[s1gs3gv]

Getting a bit tense around here now ?

[Fordee]

Getting a bit tense around here now ?

Nah, It's all good      / Pet peeve.    Never good at joining pity parties