ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[Silverspoon]

...This thread isn't reason to party for anyone but you...

Not sure about that.
I'd say a few Anons behind AM & AMH are banging hookers and blow (who knows, mebby they just do lines...).  May not be your idea of a perfect party (with your "passion for learning" & "integrity" & all), but they'll try to make do.
Anyhow, shit not as depressing when somebody else's paying for it, amirite?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

[RoadStress]

@notspoonchop  I heart a good dance party. This thread isn't reason to party for anyone but you. Have a great time bud. 

I see what you did there! Party on 

[Mabsark]

@notspoonchop  I heart a good dance party. This thread isn't reason to party for anyone but you. Have a great time bud. 

I see what you did there! Party on 

Apparently, they're all Mircea Popescu's sock puppets.

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[jjdub7]

So...friedcat's dead?

[Blazed]

So...friedcat's dead?

Probably on an island enjoying his wealth is more like it...

[rudi]

So...friedcat's dead?

Unlikely.

Rockxie's statements seemed to indicate that it was not completely unexpected that friedcat would "disappear" (run away).

The other rumors (that even his wife is looking for him, etc...) are just that: rumors.

[HarmonLi]

So...friedcat's dead?

Unlikely.

Rockxie's statements seemed to indicate that it was not completely unexpected that friedcat would "disappear" (run away).

The other rumors (that even his wife is looking for him, etc...) are just that: rumors.

Huh, what do you mean? Where did Rockxie suggest that it was likely that FC was running away? I don't seem to recall that statement...

[MidwestMiner]

What's more likely: that Friedcat got swooped off by Chinese secret police and no one knows about it, he died and no one knows about it OR that he felt burdened by the failure of his creation and decided to abscond with a few million $$ and a fresh start? Yeah.. Occam's razor people

[HarmonLi]

What's more likely: that Friedcat got swooped off by Chinese secret police and no one knows about it, he died and no one knows about it OR that he felt burdened by the failure of his creation and decided to abscond with a few million $$ and a fresh start? Yeah.. Occam's razor people

I think you're right. Yet I always felt that FC had quite a big amount of honesty. I still wonder why he didn't let this fail more gracefully. Oh well.

[rudi]

So...friedcat's dead?

Unlikely.

Rockxie's statements seemed to indicate that it was not completely unexpected that friedcat would "disappear" (run away).

The other rumors (that even his wife is looking for him, etc...) are just that: rumors.

Huh, what do you mean? Where did Rockxie suggest that it was likely that FC was running away? I don't seem to recall that statement...

I didn't say that Rockxie said that it was likely that FC was running away.

However, in one of the last statements he (rockxie) made, he said he didn't know the reason why friedcat disappeared, but that it might be 60% professional, 40% personal. To me, this sounds like there were big problems lingering for a long time, and FC finally snapped.

That's not much to go on, admittedly, but we have absolutely no reason to believe he was kidnapped. Him being in prison or even executed is even less likely.

[HarmonLi]

What still doesn't make sense is that they didn't opt for liquidating the whole company. I mean taking 100% of the money and run while facing potential legal consequences or people trying to get their money back is, in my books, worse than paying 33% of the company's funds to the shareholders, take 67% and be fine - legally wise.

[MidwestMiner]

What still doesn't make sense is that they didn't opt for liquidating the whole company. I mean taking 100% of the money and run while facing potential legal consequences or people trying to get their money back is, in my books, worse than paying 33% of the company's funds to the shareholders, take 67% and be fine - legally wise.

If I were to venture a guess I would say that the entire operation prob was "illegal" as far as the authorities are concerned and FC simply didn't view the blowback from BTC investors as any added trouble.

[HarmonLi]

What still doesn't make sense is that they didn't opt for liquidating the whole company. I mean taking 100% of the money and run while facing potential legal consequences or people trying to get their money back is, in my books, worse than paying 33% of the company's funds to the shareholders, take 67% and be fine - legally wise.

If I were to venture a guess I would say that the entire operation prob was "illegal" as far as the authorities are concerned and FC simply didn't view the blowback from BTC investors as any added trouble.

In my books it'd be worth spending 33% of your stash (apart from the gains you made apart from that(!)) to sleep tight, have your mind at ease and not be worried that some lunatic actually hired someone to take revenge on you - unfortunately there very well could be crazy people like that.

[Puppet]

In my books it'd be worth spending 33% of your stash (apart from the gains you made apart from that(!)) to sleep tight,

You assume that
a) all "crazy" investors would be satisfied getting just 30% of a stash (a stash that also might be smaller than they thought in the first place)
b) FC is going to sleep well with the authorities quite likely chasing him for security fraud (even if he paid back every last dime, that doesnt make the whole construction or issuing of unregistered securities legal) and/or for large scale electricity theft.

Both assumptions seem very unlikely to me.

[AirWolf]

What still doesn't make sense is that they didn't opt for liquidating the whole company. I mean taking 100% of the money and run while facing potential legal consequences or people trying to get their money back is, in my books, worse than paying 33% of the company's funds to the shareholders, take 67% and be fine - legally wise.

If I were to venture a guess I would say that the entire operation prob was "illegal" as far as the authorities are concerned and FC simply didn't view the blowback from BTC investors as any added trouble.

In my books it'd be worth spending 33% of your stash (apart from the gains you made apart from that(!)) to sleep tight, have your mind at ease and not be worried that some lunatic actually hired someone to take revenge on you - unfortunately there very well could be crazy people like that.

Like me for example...

[AirWolf]

This is what HAVELOCK thinks about our money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993711.0

[MidwestMiner]

In my books it'd be worth spending 33% of your stash (apart from the gains you made apart from that(!)) to sleep tight,

You assume that
a) all "crazy" investors would be satisfied getting just 30% of a stash (a stash that also might be smaller than they thought in the first place)
b) FC is going to sleep well with the authorities quite likely chasing him for security fraud (even if he paid back every last dime, that doesnt make the whole construction or issuing of unregistered securities legal) and/or for large scale electricity theft.

Both assumptions seem very unlikely to me.

What is this electricity theft stemming from? Do have have facts?

[MidwestMiner]

This is what HAVELOCK thinks about our money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993711.0

Well they are not responsible. AM was trading far earlier than on Havelock and I assume they have no idea where FC is either. Just an all around shitty situation.