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March 12, 2015, 12:45:49 PM
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So...  Havelock has control of the underlying asset & is board member?  


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March 12, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
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I'm really curious to see what happens when/if the boss himself comes back at some point. He may have to hie indefinitely, which would be sad Sad

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March 12, 2015, 01:01:31 PM
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TaT is out. and has been for a long time.
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March 12, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
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TaT is out. and has been for a long time.

Yes, that's what the picture I just pasted says.  It also mentions that TaT has passed control of the underlying assets, along with his seat on AM board, to James Grant lightbox Anon known as Havelock.

Unless I'm not fully understanding Bitcoin passthroughs, one needs to control the securities one resells, or how does that work?
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March 12, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
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I believe it's highly unlikely that friedcat gave his business partner an exchange deposit address, to which he does not hold the private key and which could change at any time (exchanges get hacked, go offline etc). It is of course possible but seeing that this address received automated payouts for multiple months it is just extremely unlikely. It's not like the received transactions were only pocket change:

https://blockchain.info/tx/8b06f02c7ed75f511a40c4b32949eb3f23e6c638967315fe863532638eb8b131
There's an interesting website out there that automatically does the grouping addresses together that are used as common inputs, www.walletexplorer.com
They also list some common known wallets; exchanges like Bitstamp, BTC-e, etc, pools, services, etc.
For that address, they have it listed as huobi.com exchange.
http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Huobi.com-2?from_address=19iVyH1qUxgywY8LJSbpV4VavjZmyuEyxV
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March 12, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
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TaT is out. and has been for a long time.

Yes, that's what the picture I just pasted says.  It also mentions that TaT has passed control of the underlying assets, along with his seat on AM board, to James Grant lightbox Anon known as Havelock.

Unless I'm not fully understanding Bitcoin passthroughs, one needs to control the securities one resells, or how does that work?

Well it likely means TAT sold his whole position to Havelock
Although I'm not sure according to the transfer and TAT message Havelock is a board member so I'm kind of curious why the Panaminian group hasn't said anything about it.

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March 12, 2015, 06:07:18 PM
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I doubt AM is without value IF someone can figure out all the millions of loose threads in the inner workings. Only the customer list, IP and name of the oldest and most iconic ASIC company in the world has to carry some value. The problem is the informal and frankly terrible company and leadership structure.
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March 12, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
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TaT is out. and has been for a long time.

Yes, that's what the picture I just pasted says.  It also mentions that TaT has passed control of the underlying assets, along with his seat on AM board, to James Grant lightbox Anon known as Havelock.

Unless I'm not fully understanding Bitcoin passthroughs, one needs to control the securities one resells, or how does that work?

Well it likely means TAT sold his whole position to Havelock
Although I'm not sure according to the transfer and TAT message Havelock is a board member so I'm kind of curious why the Panaminian group hasn't said anything about it.

Because the Panamanian group is not a Panamanian group but a Canadian d00d.
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March 12, 2015, 08:21:01 PM
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Is FC dead?
Is FC incarcerated?
Is FC held hostage?
Is FC on the run?
Is FC on the lam?

I am so confused.
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March 12, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
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Is FC dead?
Is FC incarcerated?
Is FC held hostage?
Is FC on the run?
Is FC on the lam?

I am so confused.

I think that this point, no one really knows.  Everything is a guess at this point and facts are hard to come by.
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March 12, 2015, 09:38:22 PM
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Can someone TLDR what we DO know so far? Would be real helpful.
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March 12, 2015, 09:42:53 PM
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Can someone TLDR what we DO know so far? Would be real helpful.

FC missing, shit's all fucked up, don't trust David, the end

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Can someone TLDR what we DO know so far? Would be real helpful.

FC missing, shit's all fucked up, don't trust David, the end

Short and factual. I like it. Well at this point I'm gonna hold on to my 140-ish shares. Maybe they will have some historic value some day Smiley
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March 13, 2015, 01:06:04 AM
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Is FC dead?
Is FC incarcerated?
Is FC held hostage?
Is FC on the run?
Is FC on the lam?

I am so confused.

This is the question I also want an answer to.
Also why is there no funding suddenly anymore, did fc take all coins with him?

I also hope you guys will try everything to make the amhash customers whole,
that was one of the few cloudmining which wasn't considered a scam and now this.

There is this (very likely bitfountain) bitcoin address which had big movements
at beginning of march, I hope that is to secure funds to repay amhash customers...

P.S.: As a small holder since IPO I probably don't need to mention that I am super
disappointed to hear that BE300 was never mass ordered, because that was the main reason
I was still holding on.  Angry

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March 13, 2015, 01:08:13 AM
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Is FC dead?
Is FC incarcerated?
Is FC held hostage?
Is FC on the run?
Is FC on the lam?

I am so confused.

This is the question I also want an answer to.
Also why is there no funding suddenly anymore, did fc take all coins with him?

I also hope you guys will try everything to make the amhash customers whole,
that was one of the few cloudmining which wasn't considered a scam and now this.

There is this (very likely bitfountain) bitcoin address which had big movements
at beginning of march, I hope that is to secure funds to repay amhash customers...

P.S.: As a small holder since IPO I probably don't need to mention that I am super
disappointed to hear that BE300 was never mass ordered, because that was the main reason
I was still holding on.  Angry



Personally I hope that the funds do NOT go to amhash. Amhash was a private venture between rockminer/FC from what I understand. No way AM shareholders should pay for this.
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March 13, 2015, 01:34:59 AM
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Personally I hope that the funds do NOT go to amhash. Amhash was a private venture between rockminer/FC from what I understand. No way AM shareholders should pay for this.

I don't know how it is from the legal side, but the amhash topic clearly mentions ASICminer:
In this contract, the hashrate is provided by ASICMiner, the management is provided by
RockMiner, and the platform is provided by HavelockInvestments.

The thing is we bought shares in a company, we knew that it could fail, but amhash customers
bought "hashrate" so the only real risk for them should be if difficulty moves up or down...
I just don't want this to end as "just another bitcoin scam" - that is all :/
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March 13, 2015, 03:26:15 AM
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here is the ASICMINER empty office:






they moved out from Feb 12nd.

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March 13, 2015, 03:34:42 AM
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here is the ASICMINER empty office:






they moved out from Feb 12nd.

Lol idk about u but if i were there i woulda taken those chairs. We have 3 of those in the it office and when i looked up prices after seeing one in a sharper image window at the mall i found out those darn things cost an upwards of $1500 each if u get the lumbar inserts for ur back and add adjustable arm rests lol but they just left them behind i guess. Maybe they were cheap knockoffs?? Lol even fake ones are hundreds of bucks in the us depending on the quality but if they r real go take em before they get trashed or gifted to someone else lol.
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March 13, 2015, 08:02:18 AM
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asiabtc is a thief and a liar, i would not pay any attention to what he says.

that said he states

1, friedcast lost contact from 2 month ago.
2, asicminer moved from their shenzhen office to some place in early of Feb.
3, other member of asicminer kept silence.

if i were AM i would also lose contact with this a hole, he has nothing to offer, why would AM stay in contact?

just see his old thread and all the unhappy ppl....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421921.3040

nuff said
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March 13, 2015, 08:25:17 AM
Last edit: March 13, 2015, 08:35:50 AM by flyingplows
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So far the overall understanding is that ASICMINER should carry some responsibility

The most funny part is that he says ASICMINER should carry SOME responsibility Grin Like responsibility for what?Cheesy For the event that asicminer stole our money?Cheesy Of course you have to take all responsibility for this, ALL Angry Can you elaborate why other parties are responsible also? The only thing I can imagine is that they trusted customers money to untrusted company like asicminer. Well if they are responsible in your eyes for that, then, well, u know, that's more than laughable Grin Or the police is responsible that they ''robbed'' the miners? Well, you might say some cat is responsible because he stole the money and not asicminer, but in AMHash thread it is clearly stated that ''In this contract, the hashrate is provided by ASICMiner, the management is provided by RockMiner, and the platform is provided by HavelockInvestments.'' It was false advertising in the first place if the hashrate was privided by a cat.

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