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March 17, 2015, 03:26:29 PM
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This is what HAVELOCK thinks about our money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993711.0

HAVELOCK ROBBED ME MORE THAN 170BTC - BEWARE OF THIS THIEVES!
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March 17, 2015, 04:25:49 PM
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In my books it'd be worth spending 33% of your stash (apart from the gains you made apart from that(!)) to sleep tight,

You assume that
a) all "crazy" investors would be satisfied getting just 30% of a stash (a stash that also might be smaller than they thought in the first place)
b) FC is going to sleep well with the authorities quite likely chasing him for security fraud (even if he paid back every last dime, that doesnt make the whole construction or issuing of unregistered securities legal) and/or for large scale electricity theft.

Both assumptions seem very unlikely to me.

What is this electricity theft stemming from? Do have have facts?
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March 17, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
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This is what HAVELOCK thinks about our money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993711.0

Well they are not responsible. AM was trading far earlier than on Havelock and I assume they have no idea where FC is either. Just an all around shitty situation.
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March 17, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
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So...friedcat's dead?

Unlikely.

Rockxie's statements seemed to indicate that it was not completely unexpected that friedcat would "disappear" (run away).

The other rumors (that even his wife is looking for him, etc...) are just that: rumors.
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him
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March 17, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
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What's more likely: that Friedcat got swooped off by Chinese secret police and no one knows about it, he died and no one knows about it OR that he felt burdened by the failure of his creation and decided to abscond with a few million $$ and a fresh start? Yeah.. Occam's razor people
If that indeed is true, then it would take several months for them to notify his wife, if friedcat asks for notification and they honor his request.
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March 17, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
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That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.
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March 17, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
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If CanaryInTheMine says so, it's good enough for me.

I hereby retract my previous statement.
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March 17, 2015, 08:44:53 PM
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That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.
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March 17, 2015, 08:57:31 PM
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Is ASICMINER a legally formed Chinese entity?

Do chinese corporations need to have registered agents for service of process as they do in the US and many other countries?

Who is their registered agent?

Who are the directors of ASICMINER?

No... this is not just a "simple" case of suing a chinese company.

Reminds me of the 90's when people thought that corporate paperwork was too much burden, that all one should have to do to go public was registered a dot com name... (for real, this was discussed on one of the business news channels way back when.... back when Netscape was a going concern). peaple fell into that new paradigm here too... "oh, awesome tech! I wanna invest... what's that? it's not a real corporation? No prob! No registered agent or even business address so that i can contact someone if I have concerns? No prob... besides, corporations are just legal constructs of the governments that we all hate". Then things blow up.

Word to the wise. I haven't even looked. But if there are other companies listed on exchanges, people would be well advised to demand that those companies formally register as such and actually assign them real shares, rather than the phantom shares and promises that they all seem so found of issuing...
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That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

Edit:  Feel free to skim the last page of that thread (at which point Benny locked it) to see how things turned out.  If it's not clear that Benny didn't win the auction, here's more:  https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126.msg216625#msg216625
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March 17, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
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That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.
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March 17, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
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That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

I totally trust you.  See edit above.  
It's not the fact that you lie that I find so irritating, but how ineptly you do it.
Get good.  Start taking pride in what you do, fagit Smiley
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March 17, 2015, 10:38:00 PM
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just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.
I'd offer, though since some around here seem to think I'm Puppet and I work for Asicminer I might not be the best choice.
Perhaps BadBear or hilariousandco would be willing?
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March 17, 2015, 10:40:10 PM
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^You'd offer ...what?
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March 17, 2015, 11:12:15 PM
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^You'd offer ...what?

...To take them files  Grin Grin Grin Don't you understand Huh Roll Eyes THEM FILES.
But he can't because of Puppet and asicminer or smth  Wink

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March 17, 2015, 11:47:23 PM
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just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

I'd offer, though since some around here seem to think I'm Puppet and I work for Asicminer I might not be the best choice.
Perhaps BadBear or hilariousandco would be willing?

BadBear isn't a fan of getting involved with things like this. Any of the general escrow agents could handle something like this though.

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March 18, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
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Join the Amhash chatroom to discuss the legal path:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.dal.net/#amhash

> ALL cloudmining companies are SCAM <
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March 18, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
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Is ASICMINER a legally formed Chinese entity?

Do chinese corporations need to have registered agents for service of process as they do in the US and many other countries?

Who is their registered agent?

Who are the directors of ASICMINER?

No... this is not just a "simple" case of suing a chinese company.

Reminds me of the 90's when people thought that corporate paperwork was too much burden, that all one should have to do to go public was registered a dot com name... (for real, this was discussed on one of the business news channels way back when.... back when Netscape was a going concern). peaple fell into that new paradigm here too... "oh, awesome tech! I wanna invest... what's that? it's not a real corporation? No prob! No registered agent or even business address so that i can contact someone if I have concerns? No prob... besides, corporations are just legal constructs of the governments that we all hate". Then things blow up.

Word to the wise. I haven't even looked. But if there are other companies listed on exchanges, people would be well advised to demand that those companies formally register as such and actually assign them real shares, rather than the phantom shares and promises that they all seem so found of issuing...

Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan


 
 
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March 18, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
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Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan


Yeah I guess he's criticising exactly those aspects. Man, it's sad... But it's wrong to call AM a scam from the start - they brought the investors a 600% ROI! It's just a shame they let greed get hold of the best of them!

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March 18, 2015, 01:20:10 PM
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I'm sure friedcat will come back...



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