ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[CanaryInTheMine]

So...friedcat's dead?

Unlikely.

Rockxie's statements seemed to indicate that it was not completely unexpected that friedcat would "disappear" (run away).

The other rumors (that even his wife is looking for him, etc...) are just that: rumors.

That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

[CanaryInTheMine]

What's more likely: that Friedcat got swooped off by Chinese secret police and no one knows about it, he died and no one knows about it OR that he felt burdened by the failure of his creation and decided to abscond with a few million $$ and a fresh start? Yeah.. Occam's razor people

If that indeed is true, then it would take several months for them to notify his wife, if friedcat asks for notification and they honor his request.

[Silverspoon]

...
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

[rudi]

If CanaryInTheMine says so, it's good enough for me.

I hereby retract my previous statement.

[primeminer]

...
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

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http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/how_to_sue_a_chinese_company_part_i_suing_in_the_united_states.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/how_to_sue_a_chinese_company_part_ii_discovery.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/litigation_strategies_us_companies_hold.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/arbitration_in_the_united_states.html

http://ecig-scam-suppliers.blogspot.com.tr/2013/04/you-have-been-cheated-on-chinese.html

Is ASICMINER a legally formed Chinese entity?

Do chinese corporations need to have registered agents for service of process as they do in the US and many other countries?

Who is their registered agent?

Who are the directors of ASICMINER?

No... this is not just a "simple" case of suing a chinese company.

Reminds me of the 90's when people thought that corporate paperwork was too much burden, that all one should have to do to go public was registered a dot com name... (for real, this was discussed on one of the business news channels way back when.... back when Netscape was a going concern). peaple fell into that new paradigm here too... "oh, awesome tech! I wanna invest... what's that? it's not a real corporation? No prob! No registered agent or even business address so that i can contact someone if I have concerns? No prob... besides, corporations are just legal constructs of the governments that we all hate". Then things blow up.

Word to the wise. I haven't even looked. But if there are other companies listed on exchanges, people would be well advised to demand that those companies formally register as such and actually assign them real shares, rather than the phantom shares and promises that they all seem so found of issuing...

[Silverspoon]

...
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

Edit:  Feel free to skim the last page of that thread (at which point Benny locked it) to see how things turned out.  If it's not clear that Benny didn't win the auction, here's more:  https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126.msg216625#msg216625

[CanaryInTheMine]

...
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

[Silverspoon]

...
That's not a rumor, she is looking for him

No. Without a statement from Mama Cat, it's called a rumor.
With a statement from Mama Cat, it would become a claim.
Claims by Anons such as yourself, especially those with vested interests, are plentiful, often mutually contradictory, and neither here nor there.
You, for instance, have lied to help out your friend Benny Schlichter.
Don't make me look it up.

oh please do.

Sure.  Here's the post in question:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707341.msg8071506#msg8071506
No such signed documents existed, ergo canary couldn't have had it in his possession.

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

I totally trust you.  See edit above.  
It's not the fact that you lie that I find so irritating, but how ineptly you do it.
Get good.  Start taking pride in what you do, fagit

[MrTeal]

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

I'd offer, though since some around here seem to think I'm Puppet and I work for Asicminer I might not be the best choice.
Perhaps BadBear or hilariousandco would be willing?

[Silverspoon]

^You'd offer ...what?

[flyingplows]

^You'd offer ...what?

...To take them files  Don't you understand THEM FILES.
But he can't because of Puppet and asicminer or smth 

[dogie]

just checked the files I was sent... yep still have them.  you would be the last person I would release them to as I told you before.  any other trusted people, no prob...
you are a liar.

I'd offer, though since some around here seem to think I'm Puppet and I work for Asicminer I might not be the best choice.
Perhaps BadBear or hilariousandco would be willing?

BadBear isn't a fan of getting involved with things like this. Any of the general escrow agents could handle something like this though.

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http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/how_to_sue_a_chinese_company_part_i_suing_in_the_united_states.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/how_to_sue_a_chinese_company_part_ii_discovery.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/litigation_strategies_us_companies_hold.html
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2010/11/arbitration_in_the_united_states.html

http://ecig-scam-suppliers.blogspot.com.tr/2013/04/you-have-been-cheated-on-chinese.html

Is ASICMINER a legally formed Chinese entity?

Do chinese corporations need to have registered agents for service of process as they do in the US and many other countries?

Who is their registered agent?

Who are the directors of ASICMINER?

No... this is not just a "simple" case of suing a chinese company.

Reminds me of the 90's when people thought that corporate paperwork was too much burden, that all one should have to do to go public was registered a dot com name... (for real, this was discussed on one of the business news channels way back when.... back when Netscape was a going concern). peaple fell into that new paradigm here too... "oh, awesome tech! I wanna invest... what's that? it's not a real corporation? No prob! No registered agent or even business address so that i can contact someone if I have concerns? No prob... besides, corporations are just legal constructs of the governments that we all hate". Then things blow up.

Word to the wise. I haven't even looked. But if there are other companies listed on exchanges, people would be well advised to demand that those companies formally register as such and actually assign them real shares, rather than the phantom shares and promises that they all seem so found of issuing...

Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan

[Kipsy89]

Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan

Yeah I guess he's criticising exactly those aspects. Man, it's sad... But it's wrong to call AM a scam from the start - they brought the investors a 600% ROI! It's just a shame they let greed get hold of the best of them!

[Silverspoon]

I'm sure friedcat will come back...



  ~Happy Investing!

[Kipsy89]

I'm sure friedcat will come back...



  ~Happy Investing!

Meh, that's not even Lamby-grade image material! Where are the Chinese-style posters of some cat being tortured or something?

[Blazed]

Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan

Yeah I guess he's criticising exactly those aspects. Man, it's sad... But it's wrong to call AM a scam from the start - they brought the investors a 600% ROI! It's just a shame they let greed get hold of the best of them!

I agree they were legit during gen 1. I think once competition hit the scene they just couldn't compete. After multiple failures they said screw it and bailed. It is a shame how they left it though...a simple we are done would have been acceptable.

[Chris_Sabian]

Don't wish to be negative but is late to ask those questions, due diligence needs to be done prior investment not after, no one can claim his own clumsiness.

Regards

Juan

Yeah I guess he's criticising exactly those aspects. Man, it's sad... But it's wrong to call AM a scam from the start - they brought the investors a 600% ROI! It's just a shame they let greed get hold of the best of them!

I agree they were legit during gen 1. I think once competition hit the scene they just couldn't compete. After multiple failures they said screw it and bailed. It is a shame how they left it though...a simple we are done would have been acceptable.

Why put the effort into making a gen3 chip with sample chips?

Why create a cloudhashing fund?

Why offer prisma refunds to everyone who wanted them? (still not refunded and probably never will)

Why design a prisma 2.0 and ship them from China?

Gen2 was decent, not amazing.  BTCGarden and Rockminer made some decent miners with those chips.