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November 14, 2013, 07:22:20 AM
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You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. No wonder FriedCat doesn't post here. One minute ASICMiner is amazing and the next, roadkill. Pathetic children.

Seriously? Have you ever listened to an earnings call for an exchange-traded company? The analysts absolutely destroy executives during the Q&A sessions on a regular basis. Being an executive involves being thick-skinned and rational.

If you are seriously entertaining the idea that FC avoids the forum because he's scared of a little criticism, you desperately need to re-evaluate your confidence in him. "He doesn't post because he's too busy to ever check in" doesn't sound great either, but it's a lot more palatable than "he's too scared of the trolls".

The audience in this thread is mostly everything but "analysts", no offence, myself included.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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November 14, 2013, 09:16:13 AM
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You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. No wonder FriedCat doesn't post here. One minute ASICMiner is amazing and the next, roadkill. Pathetic children.

Seriously? Have you ever listened to an earnings call for an exchange-traded company? The analysts absolutely destroy executives during the Q&A sessions on a regular basis. Being an executive involves being thick-skinned and rational.

If you are seriously entertaining the idea that FC avoids the forum because he's scared of a little criticism, you desperately need to re-evaluate your confidence in him. "He doesn't post because he's too busy to ever check in" doesn't sound great either, but it's a lot more palatable than "he's too scared of the trolls".

Do you have an example of this? I would love to see Apple or Intel in such a situation.

Found for netflix one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EfTgvKqtOY
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November 14, 2013, 11:24:16 AM
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You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. No wonder FriedCat doesn't post here. One minute ASICMiner is amazing and the next, roadkill. Pathetic children.


Seriously? Have you ever listened to an earnings call for an exchange-traded company? The analysts absolutely destroy executives during the Q&A sessions on a regular basis. Being an executive involves being thick-skinned and rational.

If you are seriously entertaining the idea that FC avoids the forum because he's scared of a little criticism, you desperately need to re-evaluate your confidence in him. "He doesn't post because he's too busy to ever check in" doesn't sound great either, but it's a lot more palatable than "he's too scared of the trolls".

Again, children.
It has nothing to do with him being scared. Why the hell would he be bothered? We get good news one day everyone is happy, divs go up slightly. Later that day there's no new news... "Stone him!".
I will agree with you that CEO's get chewed out at shareholder meetings, only issue with that it they usually happen once a year not every thirty minutes on a forum. This community has become so accustomed to things moving at light speed we forget how it actually works.
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November 14, 2013, 12:44:55 PM
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does anyone remember what was calculated production cost of chip or blade? I think current BTC price rally rised AM's profit margins by few %. What does vycid think about this?
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November 14, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
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OFFER EXTENDED, BETTER INSTRUCTIONS ADDED

G.ASICMINER & AM100 (TAT.ASICMINER) Conversion Offers
(Limited Time Only, Ends Nov. 22, 2013)
With Bitfunder blocking US citizens, requiring ID verification, and not allowing exports unless you have 250 shares, we know some of you feel stuck and are looking for options. Below are two new, temporary services we are offering.

We have decided to offer a limited-time service to convert your G.ASICMINER shares into AM100 (Havelock), AM1 (Havelock), or Direct Shares. These are fee-based services that require 5 microshares in fees per whole-share (or you can use whole shares to cover the fees for larger conversions).

There is no fee to convert G.ASICMINER to AM100 (fractional shares), but please note that AM100 shares carry a 5% management fee on dividends.

Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or Direct Shares for the same fees.


Example #1: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to AM100 fractional shares. Pay no fees, simply push your G.ASICMINER shares to TATInvestments and email us according to the "G.ASIC > AM100" instructions below.

Example #2: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to direct shares. Push the 10 G.ASICMINER shares plus 50 TAT.ASICMINER shares (or AM100) to TATInvestments, and follow the "G,ASIC > Direct" instructions below.

Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Transfer 1050 AM100 shares back to the issuer, and email us according to the "AM100 > Direct" directions below.



The following limitations apply:
1. You must initiate each conversion request before November 22, 2013.
2. Due to many requests, your migration might take anywhere from 1-9 days to process.
3. Beginning Nov. 22nd, these temporary services will be discontinued.
4. We can make no guarantees that Bitfunder or Havelock will not impose additional limitations on trading in the future.



G.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM100: (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM100"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat


AM100/TAT.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares back to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Havelock-registered email address
  - Quantity of shares pushed

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Account name
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat

How to Convert Your TAT.ASICMINER on Bitfunder to AM100 Shares on Havelock (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Make the subject of your email: "TAT.AM BF"
 2. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments by using the Transfer feature while logged in to bitfunder.com
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email)
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares
  - Havelock registered email address


Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.

Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.

NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.
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November 14, 2013, 03:12:44 PM
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Jbest, things DO move very quickly in new tech like bitcoin.  Still, though, you have to wonder why people don't take a second to form more complete rational thoughts and criticisms.

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November 14, 2013, 03:15:47 PM
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Repost from Speculation Thread:

an interesting article. read it with google translate.

http://bitell.sinaapp.com/show.php?tid=679
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November 14, 2013, 03:28:07 PM
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TAT, 5% of transaction value is way too high...
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November 14, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
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Jbest, things DO move very quickly in new tech like bitcoin.  Still, though, you have to wonder why people don't take a second to form more complete rational thoughts and criticisms.

Yeah I know that but they are still a business. It seems people here expect them to "keep up with the Jones'" rather than think to the future a provide something that makes them obsolete.
The ASIC Cube was something to make people happy until their plans for the future come to fruition and, like I stated, everyone was happy about it for all of 12 hours. Then, it's back to "why isn't FC updating us?" even after a dividend increase from last week.

I'm just as bad because I refresh this forum every 15 minutes to see if anything has changed but I don't flip out every 15 minutes when it hasn't.
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November 14, 2013, 03:59:18 PM
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Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Transfer 1050 AM100 shares back to the issuer, and email us according to the "AM100 > Direct" directions below.[/i]

TAT you've just added an extra 5% as a burden onto AM100 holders. I only have 200 of the AM100s but I'm sure there are others who have been buying the 100s trying eventually capture its full value as full shares. Now they will be sellers in the 100's, so I'm not buying anything yet to complete my full shares.  This was stupid.
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November 14, 2013, 04:05:43 PM
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Then when the AM100 goes low enough, ppl will arbitrage the AM100s to sell into AM1s, depressing all of AM. You did not think this out.
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November 14, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
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OFFER EXTENDED, BETTER INSTRUCTIONS ADDED

G.ASICMINER & AM100 (TAT.ASICMINER) Conversion Offers
(Limited Time Only, Ends Nov. 22, 2013)
With Bitfunder blocking US citizens, requiring ID verification, and not allowing exports unless you have 250 shares, we know some of you feel stuck and are looking for options. Below are two new, temporary services we are offering.

We have decided to offer a limited-time service to convert your G.ASICMINER shares into AM100 (Havelock), AM1 (Havelock), or Direct Shares. These are fee-based services that require 5 microshares in fees per whole-share (or you can use whole shares to cover the fees for larger conversions).

There is no fee to convert G.ASICMINER to AM100 (fractional shares), but please note that AM100 shares carry a 5% management fee on dividends.

Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or Direct Shares for the same fees.


Example #1: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to AM100 fractional shares. Pay no fees, simply push your G.ASICMINER shares to TATInvestments and email us according to the "G.ASIC > AM100" instructions below.

Example #2: You have 10 G.ASICMINER shares, but you want to convert them to direct shares. Push the 10 G.ASICMINER shares plus 50 TAT.ASICMINER shares (or AM100) to TATInvestments, and follow the "G,ASIC > Direct" instructions below.

Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Transfer 1050 AM100 shares back to the issuer, and email us according to the "AM100 > Direct" directions below.



The following limitations apply:
1. You must initiate each conversion request before November 22, 2013.
2. Due to many requests, your migration might take anywhere from 1-9 days to process.
3. Beginning Nov. 22nd, these temporary services will be discontinued.
4. We can make no guarantees that Bitfunder or Havelock will not impose additional limitations on trading in the future.



G.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM100: (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM100"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Havelock registered email address

How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments
 2. Make the subject of your email: "G.ASIC > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email),
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat


AM100/TAT.ASICMINER TRANSFER OPTIONS

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to AM1: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares back to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > AM1"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Havelock-registered email address
  - Quantity of shares pushed

How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
 1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
 2. Make the subject of your email: "AM100 > Direct"
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Account name
  - Quantity of shares pushed
  - Email address you want registered with Friedcat
  - Wallet address you want registered with Friedcat

How to Convert Your TAT.ASICMINER on Bitfunder to AM100 Shares on Havelock (FREE SERVICE)
 1. Make the subject of your email: "TAT.AM BF"
 2. Push the amount of shares to the issuer account on Bitfunder: TATInvestments by using the Transfer feature while logged in to bitfunder.com
 3. Send an e-mail to tat.investments@gmail.com from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
  - Bitfunder account name (not email)
  - Bitfunder public wallet address
  - Quantity of shares
  - Havelock registered email address


Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.

Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.

NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.

I used this service to transfer my AM100 shares from Bitfunder to Havelock and it took about 3 days for the transfer to complete.  No problems at all.
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November 14, 2013, 04:17:40 PM
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Repost from Speculation Thread:

an interesting article. read it with google translate.

http://bitell.sinaapp.com/show.php?tid=679

That is interesting. Thanks

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November 14, 2013, 04:56:48 PM
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FC could be like Netflix CEO. Despite going against investor favor, at the end of the day, he's right.
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November 14, 2013, 05:11:48 PM
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This looks familiar: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/11/13/3m-immersion-cooling/

Also related: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/11/14/1635258/new-approach-to-immersion-cooling-powers-hpc-in-a-high-rise

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November 14, 2013, 05:15:07 PM
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Now all I need is a conversion for this ASICMINER passthrough... I dunno if there's enough demand for that service though. https://litecoininvest.com/security/ASICMINER1K-PT

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November 14, 2013, 05:47:40 PM
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How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
what exactly am I paying for here? I thought that was the default option anyway.
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November 14, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
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How to Convert G.ASICMINER Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat: (Fee-based Service, 5 microshares per whole-share)
what exactly am I paying for here? I thought that was the default option anyway.

It's an optional service to convert your shares now, rather than whenever the issuer passes them to Friedcat as direct.

Be it for peace of mind, or any other thing you might want to do with your shares once they are out, we're just offering options.
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November 14, 2013, 07:36:26 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong... but there has ALWAYS been a 5% fee on AM100 right?  Why are people complaining now... TAT has been doing A LOT of work lately to manage this whole mess...

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November 14, 2013, 07:45:44 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong... but there has ALWAYS been a 5% fee on AM100 right?  Why are people complaining now... TAT has been doing A LOT of work lately to manage this whole mess...

He's complaining about the one time 5% fee on total value transferred. Which is admittedly steep. 

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