empoweoqwj
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November 18, 2013, 07:20:47 AM |
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Asicminer share price appears to be dropping pretty quick
With btc $600 @ mtgox, some people are just choosing to cash out @ $300 / AM share
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limbaugh
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November 18, 2013, 08:35:43 AM Last edit: November 18, 2013, 08:46:14 AM by limbaugh |
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Once the .5 wall is gone, it's free fall. It's going to be painful!
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AMuppInTime
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November 18, 2013, 09:46:23 AM |
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Once the .5 wall is gone, it's free fall. It's going to be painful!
on HL's priceHavelock's AM price is not to be blindly followed due to poor liquidity/volume on the exchange: looking at the order book you can see there are only 200 shares at .5. Back in the BTC-TC days you'd see the order stacks racking up 1k+ before going into smaller prices. HL lists 12K shares for market cap (15K if you add the 1/100 security), BTC-TC had 26K+ - Meanwhile there are 200K+ direct shares for Asicminer out there... To me this means that the folks trying to cash out on the rising BTC price really only have one exchange to go to and are forcing the price down. Meanwhile the remaining 200K+ shares are fine without belonging to any exchange, with no clear way to exist (risky pos - but we're way low already). Interestingly it appears that many folks decided to take their shares to direct instead of importing to Havelock when migrating out of the closing exchanges - I might be slightly off in the #s but the 1/100 pt AM100 only shows a market cap of 352K - equivalent to about 3520 Asicminer shares (it was 5000+ Asicminer shares not long ago) which could mean that people are either converting them up to AM1 or out. on Asicminer's value fluctuationsAdditionally Asicminer only really took off after the Apr BTC crash (250->100s). I feel a lot of folks who were in BTC then felt that investing in a mining business was a good way to do something more than just "park" their BTCs. I'd expect a similar scenario for the current times, and renewed interest in the shares once BTC deflates from a top, or friedcat starts increasing divs from sales. Everyone wants to be holding Bitcoins because the valuation keeps going up ($600 today? $2,000 tomorrow!) while a few investors are running away from risks by selling their Asicminer shares without new investors showing up (the people who would buy Asicminer likely did then, or are thinking they're better off holding BTCs with the current rise). I feel we have run out of possible investors, which has created this price vacuum. Thankfully it means little to friedcat as Asicminer is fully funded already.I'm holding on to divs and sitting tight for now - remember every cat has 9 lives.
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November 18, 2013, 09:54:26 AM |
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Additionally Asicminer only really took off after the Apr BTC crash (250->100s). I feel a lot of folks who were in BTC then felt that investing in a mining business was a good way to do something more than just "park" their BTCs.
Most buyers in the secondary markets are valuing based on divs alone, at thats the main determinent of value in the absence of other concrete information, the correlation is quite obvious in recent months (graph from the thegenesisblock.com)
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Zubilica
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November 18, 2013, 11:17:38 AM |
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Sorry to say, but i believe that Havelock 400 shares buy order is based on inside trading. I have seen this before. Updates are discussed on AM Board then wild orders appear.
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101111
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November 18, 2013, 11:34:41 AM |
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FC started to withhold divs to pay for future wages and other expenses when btc was sub $150 (I'm kind of guessing this), and it sounded like he would need to do so for only, I dunno maybe 2 months? So would it be reasonable to expect a resumption of bigger divs given the current ( >$600 atm) btc price?
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limbaugh
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November 18, 2013, 11:39:54 AM |
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Looks like the wall won't not make it until Wed. Maybe a buying opportunity soon.
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minerpumpkin
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November 18, 2013, 11:41:37 AM |
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Sorry to say, but i believe that Havelock 400 shares buy order is based on inside trading. I have seen this before. Updates are discussed on AM Board then wild orders appear.
Which would be a good sign for the stock price though, if someone with inside knowledge assumes the price to go up soon...
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I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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101111
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November 18, 2013, 11:56:00 AM |
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Sorry to say, but i believe that Havelock 400 shares buy order is based on inside trading. I have seen this before. Updates are discussed on AM Board then wild orders appear.
Which would be a good sign for the stock price though, if someone with inside knowledge assumes the price to go up soon... Yeah, why are you sorry? A big buy order is good, it shows support.
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finlof
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November 18, 2013, 12:44:22 PM |
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Sorry to say, but i believe that Havelock 400 shares buy order is based on inside trading. I have seen this before. Updates are discussed on AM Board then wild orders appear.
Which would be a good sign for the stock price though, if someone with inside knowledge assumes the price to go up soon... Yeah, why are you sorry? A big buy order is good, it shows support. you spoke too soon. that buy order got eaten up quickly. current buy price of 0.41
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KarmaShark
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November 18, 2013, 12:45:15 PM |
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Sorry to say, but i believe that Havelock 400 shares buy order is based on inside trading. I have seen this before. Updates are discussed on AM Board then wild orders appear.
Which would be a good sign for the stock price though, if someone with inside knowledge assumes the price to go up soon... Yeah, why are you sorry? A big buy order is good, it shows support. you spoke too soon. that buy order got eaten up quickly. current buy price of 0.41 It was moved, down to 0.4.
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101111
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November 18, 2013, 12:59:29 PM |
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Down around 1/3 in a few hours and no news, insiders (board?) selling off?
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neilol
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November 18, 2013, 01:00:50 PM |
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Down around 1/3 in a few hours and no news, insiders (board?) selling off?
BTC price going crazy. People don't want to miss that.. will be some good buying opportunities this week for anyone that wants in
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November 18, 2013, 01:02:32 PM |
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Down around 1/3 in a few hours and no news, insiders (board?) selling off?
Or an insider looking to pick up a bunch of shares for a cheaply as possible...
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101111
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November 18, 2013, 02:06:11 PM |
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Seems like the most risky thing to do is hold, so the contrarian in me says buy, so I'm up for a few more, what the heck.
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minerpumpkin
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November 18, 2013, 02:26:38 PM |
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Seems like the most risky thing to do is hold, so the contrarian in me says buy, so I'm up for a few more, what the heck.
We need more people like you! That's the spirit! At some point the cat'll show up and everything's fine!
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I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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101111
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November 18, 2013, 02:35:45 PM |
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yeah, a lot more!
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November 18, 2013, 03:02:24 PM |
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About how many shares are on havelock?
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November 18, 2013, 03:34:56 PM |
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About how many shares are on havelock?
Units Outstanding 12256 (AM1) + 3527 (from AM100) PR & Communications 1. The board has committed to meeting even more often than we have been, and intentionally gleaning whatever info can be shared from each meeting, and posting it to public. 2. The board will be assisting with writing these posts to make things easier for Friedcat. 3. The board is in discussions to create content and designs for an official website.
Boardmembers, share something !
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empoweoqwj
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November 18, 2013, 04:50:50 PM |
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Seems like the most risky thing to do is hold, so the contrarian in me says buy, so I'm up for a few more, what the heck.
You know with bitcoin heading inevitably towards $1000 a coin in the next few weeks / months, holding shares in a reliable, trustworthy mining company sounds like an incredibly sensible thing to do. I think people selling out now because they are getting a few hundred bucks a share will regret the decision very soon and for a long time to come. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. The only reason I can think people are selling is because they have zero faith AM is going to stage any kind of comeback. I'm just thankful dividend payments don't depend upon the ever sinking share price
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