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 Hey all,

I am getting waves and waves of messages from people regarding baikal miners

let me be clear - baikals are sold out world wide.

I am creating this thread for the community to get together and speculate what is actually happening right now.

Baikal is not telling me any information except "several weeks"





I try to ask questions such as:

1. will there be more batches?

2. When will the next batch be available?

3. what stage of production is the current batch in?

4. Is there new products in development?

5. is baikal mining themselves (they say no)

the only 2 answers I am getting are:

"several weeks" and "we are not mining"






seems plenty of people are suspicious of the behavior of baikal lately and we just want some answers.

I really helped promoto and to support baikal but it seems like they want nothing to do with the community here

please speculate and let me know any intel that you have



we need more x11 mining manufacturers to start up......when you have a cash cow you just dont stop producing it with no explanation to the customers. even if they came to us and said listen the goods are still 1 month away but they ARE ON THE WAY. that would be better than NO INFORMATION and "SEVERAL WEEKS".....after several weeks then what????? will they start producing or will the product be ready?

I have been in fairly frequent contact with them as well and I have grown quite irritated in getting the same answer thrown at me. I will attempt to coax even a little information out of them by saying I am going to take my money elsewhere and purchase different equipment. It wouldn't really be a lie since I am already considering just setting up some GPU rigs instead even though the ROI is not as good the equipment will still retain at least a modicum amount of resale value. My guess is they are not mining with them since I am monitoring the network hash rate and it seems largely unchanged from before. They either don't want to cause a buying frenzy with an announcement or they have a new product that will drop sometime fairly soon.  

Maybe there is self-mining in process because of the DASH price rising?

Or possibly there is a lack of chips needed for miners.

Maybe it's another BitFury idea where htye produce miners and mine themselves using good equipment.
I'm assuming that bitfury's 16nm chips have been with them for a while and they came to the idea that they wanted to sell them when they got the next ones (but still haven't really sold anything - as far as I can tell). (EDIT: sidehack did recently confirm that they had some of these mining chips though).
They may be creating good chips and then mining with them themselves before offering them to community a while later and taking investments in the meanwhile.

Patience, nobody wants to hear that, but you don't pop out miners like toasters unless you somehow anticipated this massive run up in the price of the coins that are mined.  I am sure Baikal is caught just as flat footed on this as everyone else. 

I am sure they are scrambling trying to get more miners built and in a large enough volume to meet the demand.  And at the same time they have to worry that if they place a massive order to only have the price of the coins to collapse and then they are left holding the bag for miners they cannot sell.  This is a tough spot to be in if you think about it. 

I agree. The conspiracy theories are getting ridiculous. They JUST had some in stock about 2 weeks ago, I ordered at the end of February and received in March., They ran out, they are producing more. Baikal has done nothing so far to lower confidence in them. They are obviously overwhelmed.

Have patience. The FOMO you guys have is ridiculous.

Guys listen, I am a reasonable guy, even though the gear sells itself I actively helped promote to sell over 1000 miners. they could at least let me know what they are doing?

I understand they are having trouble keeping up with the demand of these money printers, but just a little transparency would be amazing

It's pretty simple really.  Dash exploded, demand for their miners skyrocketed and at present they cannot keep up w/ that demand.  Honestly if I were them I would be raising pricing substantially - it's all about leverage.  Be patient, stop whining and focus on something else until more become available.

Excellent proactive  approach! bittawn, if baikal fails for whatever reason, maybe you can direct us to some other producer? :) Who else is doing x11 ASIC? PinIdea and...???

I remember when I first purchase a mini back in August 2016 they were 500usd. Then they soon went out stock and had an exact release date for their new ones....not sure but I think it was Oct 16th or something like that. Then sales slumped and they lowered their pricing by 20% as they were sitting on dead stock. Dash then sky rocketed, group buys by Bittawn and stock is now gone. I'm sure they are scrambling to get new stock but I'm confident the A900's won't be anything less than 3000 even 3500usd a piece if dash price holds.

To my mind baikal miners become popular task nowdays because I hear them from most people near me which are in mining for years. Well, there is no information if they are mining as you asked but maybe they will act like bitmain.
They aren't active here but if I amn't wrong, there are more known people on dash forum in that task.

to explain  in terms of different gear take a pandaminer also sold out due to eth price rise and btc drop.


My panda rx 480 4gb model earns .0235 btc a day  mining eth pointed at nicehash converted to btc

44th  of  s-9 earns 0.0232 btc a day pointed at f2pool.

the panda uses 1100-1150 watts

44th of s9 uses  4500-4600 watts

so pandas sell out boom.

Best thing about Baikal miners is they are ROCK SOLID. No issues since I got involved last fall. Great, fast, stable, cool, quiet. Everything you want from a miner.

-teamgreen: I get it... I get it.....we would just like some clarification.... know what the new price will be and give a timeframe to work with (several weeks doesn't really cut the mustard)

-MakeMyDay619: cheers mate, rest assured I will ALWAYS be actively selling mining gear and keeping up with all of the community antics :P

they are amazing miners no doubt, thats why I sold them

Considering that they consume very little power and very short ROI, you would expect them to mine for themselves and produce more profit than selling, they can adjust the price to be one year ROI and will sell

Maybe Baikal and Pinidea etc are taking a more reserved approach than Bitmain and other btc asics.  It is better to create a high demand and high price and get good margins for their work. 

It is easy to be greedy and want more machines but with more machines comes higher difficulty and we could just end up with another overmined market that will lead to lower profits / longer ROIs / higher power use.  All of which lead to lower interest and lower prices of both coin and machine.

I find it hard to believe that the company making the machines do not mine or at least have very close friends / family who get a private deal.  Keep an eye of the total hash rates...

IMHO this is the most obvious think.
Actually I would do that if I were them. Do not you all?

If I were Baikal this is exactly what I would be thinking.....

"God Dammit, we sold a thousand at a discount to those guys at bitcointalk, quickly go hookup the last thousand we have and start mining dash NOW"

My speculation of course.

What's to be suspicious about?  Even if they are mining (and in their position I would do the same in a NY minute) they are doing so with the gear they designed and built.  They don't owe us anything.  If they decide to sell machines in two weeks and DASH is still on a tear, don't expect to be paying 500 bucks a unit the second time around either.

This is a privately held company turning a profit--I'm not sure what people are yelling about.

yeah I would be mining if I were them hands down,

price...not the problem... people are willing to pay more

if baikal are mining... not the problem...we get it, they have money printers

that is not the issue

the issue is everyone here in the community is like hmmm wtf is happening right now... you should see my inbox

we just want a bit of transparency and honesty, if they are mining just tell us

Ya I largely agree! The issue is not really that they are out of stock but rather that they have zero transparency at all. They could at least give us some time table so we aren't left expecting and we have the opportunity to make preparations. Well I have two more minis on the way that were purchased from other individuals so that makes 4 minis for me but I would easily wait to buy 9-10 quads if I had some time table of a new batch coming in. I also don't really care if they are mining with them right now but it would also still be nice to know that's what they are doing with them. I would simply like to be told the truth. Now maybe they really will be in stock by mid April but some assurance of that would be appreciated.

I dig it.  Communication can always be better, but I guess my point is that they don't owe us any communication either.  It would be awesome to be prepared, but don't forget that this is still the wild west!

It is easy - now they dont need you, maybe sometime later. They have enough VIP customers and according to me  they will sell slowly some little quantity to them.

True I understand that it is still in the early implementation stages but I guess I am a little bit needy and want some information.  ;D That being said I will likely purchase some parts to put together 3-4 gpu mining rigs for Zcash or Monero. The ROI is much much lower than these Baikals but the ease of purchasing equipment is easier and they still retain some small potential resale value. These Baikals would all but be worthless should a better miner come out from either the same company or another one.

My speculation: They are being silenced by a massive private order with a non-disclosure agreement.  All production is going toward a single, private customer - a Chinese warehouse full of miners.

On a side note, I myself have never built a gpu rig but can someone who has more experience than myself chime in? Roughly how many gpu's would I need to get 150mg/h? Similar to the baikal mini?

Thanks man.....I'm going to start looking at other avenues...Dash price is too high not to start exploring, and sourcing out used parts in my local craigslist.

I did talk to them tonight and although I wasn't really too satisfied with the answers I got I have a slightly better indication of what is going on now. I believe, based on me pressing him pretty hard, that there will be a new batch that is available for us to purchase. That being said don't quote me on that since he was still rather vague. He said that they literally cannot keep up with the demand for the units due to the explosion of the price of Dash. As far as building a GPU rig and comparing it to the Baikal Mini.... That is like comparing apples to oranges. Different algorithms and currencies hash at drastically different rates and also GPU rigs are far more difficult than the plug and play nature of ASICS.

Thx for reply...I was just trying to get a rough idea...would I need 10 of the higher end gpu's to achieve 150 mg/h. I know it likely sounds nuts what I'm asking...nevertheless I'm searching and reading as I'm posting this.

You could build a 5-6 GPU system that would get you 150mh/s mining on the Ethereum network. X11 isn't as efficient on GPU as Digger Hashimoto, you'd be much better off mining ETH and converting through NH an exchange to get your Dash. Keep in mind that system may run ~1200w, a far cry from Baikal's amazing wattage.

As it is approprate... the small 5 unit oder from piniedea was cancelled on a group buy (hmmmmmm me thinks it interesting all equip goes 'poof')


It is everywhere!

AS to this relates to baikal

Anyway what I think is going on is below.....(KNC took customers money..mined the Neptunes 6 plus month...were sued in Sweden and won the case! as an example)

Lol

This is what Avalon, butterfly labs, KNC miner, Spondolies all did back in the day. Yank a batch and
Mine them....while singing 🎤 "we're in the money". We are so SOTL on X11 miners.

Again if if that is NOT the case...just got on the baikal site....they allow you to order 100 at a pop or moere on the cart page
thus .even if they do come out with some without some kind  of 'que' with folk in line...or just because the baikal group buy
thread gets a heads up for mentioning them before they were 'famous'

I don't really see an angle a person could get these....anywhere but in China ..without some kinda pre-order list or some other angle
they will be gone probably within an hour (assuming anyone knew the hour to order)

ah well....not looking good ...especially if they open the baikal sale page again and whales can play with 100 a pop orders ..bingo / banko :)

So unless a group buy can be swung...I don't see how the heck we can get any (your our only hope obi wan) :)

Hi, the question is if the new batch will be sold one/two pieces for customer or not, if will be satisfied few large customers or many little customers.

W_M

i think we dream too much, be realistic a product who can generate 30$/days : we can buy it again if dash go down one day.

Absolutely right...
What would everyone else do?! Of course printing money instead of selling the gear that is left!
(that is the reason why some people are so upset btw.. because THEY aren´t printing right now..)

Would be nice if they would tell us something like "next batch not before X"... but as TracerX said.. they don´t have to.

since there is no availability for this, it can be good to consider selling them for more than the original price, like 5 btc, i was thinking about this possibility after all they are making nearly 0.03 per day...

Thank you for sharing!! :)

To add to that I think that Ethereum and Zcash are your best bets right now for GPU mining. I would used RX 480's for Ethereum and probably GTX 1070's for Zcash mining.

WHOA!  Will be interesting to see what they actually sell for...

$2499 for a mini 150Mh! 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baikal-X11-150M-miner-compatible-with-x13-x14-x15-Quark-Qubit-baikal-miner-/201861773668?hash=item2effe63964:g:xHgAAOSwWxNY0Y9h


Here is another 150Mh on ebay in UK listed for $1800
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232275665826?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Mining4Bacon

Ya that is ridiculous and if the price of Dash were to decrease then this would be an insane buy. But on the other hand MUE is about twice as profitable with the push they have made recently.

when dash eventally dumps bikal will come crying back
to the customers they are spurning now and offer u dusty used
miners for full price lool

always happens , never fails asic miners love to bite the hand that feeds them
ill atick to gpu mining thank you, but ill have my popcord ready

Like any good portfolio, you shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket, currently my farm is split as follows:  108Th SHA265, 9.15Gh X11, 36 x 1070GTX's

w/cryptocoin holdings, 35% BTC, 40% ETH, 25% other ALTs

I recommend everyone diversity, this is no different than investing in stocks, precious metals, real estate, etc.  Be smart, diversity and HODL!

Mining4Bacon

Thank you for sharing

I will share my relatively new experience with Baikal.  I apparently got one of the last Mini's they released... ordered about 3.5 weeks ago and it's been up and running perfectly the past 2.5 weeks.  My ordering experience was very smooth... placed through their website, contacted via e-mail to get exact BTC amount due, paid that day (Monday) and got the Mini that Friday. After I realized how easy these things were to set up and run, I contacted them about 3 days asking to buy 2 more.  Got a response in a day saying that they were now out of Minis but could sell me a Giant for about $2,300.  I couldnt pull the trigger then but now kinda wishing i had cuz if nothing else, probably could have doubled or tripled my money by just selling it.

Anyway, since then, I have sent them about 4 email messages. They replied to the first 2 just saying they were still out stock.  I specifically asked about when they expected a new batch and what the process would be for pre-order/reserving, etc, but never got any reply to these questions.  To me, I totally get that they were caught off guard and simply cannot keep up with demand... i mean really, who could have predicted Dash up almost 10x in the less than 3 months?  But, I do think it's a bit weak that they either 1) don't have a strategy for the next batch's release or 2) have one but just don't want to share it.  I think they could score a lot of points if they just were able to provide SOME information.

 http://cryptomining-blog.com/8526-mining-performance-of-gtx-1080-ti-with-ccminer-2-0-rc2/

 So 7 of the GTX 1080 ti will pull close to 150 MH/s - but at 1750 watts JUST for the cards, figure close to 2KW for an entire single rig if you can get all 7 running on one rig.

 There's also the issue that the 1080 ti is ONLY available in founders edition (so far), at a significant premium on price, and VERY limited availability - and running the calculation for 7 or these on whattomine at the stated figures in the post show them LOSING MONEY if you have to pay more than 1c/kwh on your electric.


On the other hand, this is actually PROFITABLE up to about 10c/kwh electric - but nowhere near as profitable as mining ETH would be on those cards, much less something they're GOOD at like lyra2r2.

I wouldn't use the 1080's but rather the 1070's... You can pull about 420 S/s per card for zcash and for a 6 card rig you could get the wattage down to about 1000 in total if you configure it properly. ROI on one of these rigs would be 6-8 months dependent upon price but at least you can purchase all of the parts anytime you wish unlike with Baikal right now.

I concur - 1070's are the sweet spot for power/hash/cost efficiency today; with only one except.   AMD RX470/480 beat the 1070 for ETH/ETC ... 1070's win for pretty much every other GPU algo.

Mining4Bacon

Thanks for all this info guys....I'm trying to find that sweet spot where a gpu is good for eth, xmr, zcash and maybe X11...I'm reading a lot of good things on rx 480's, now I need to decide on MSI red's, sapphire....4b or 8gb....lol....gotta love mining... :) oh, I should mention electricity is included in my rent, so consumption is not toooo much of a worry... :)

haha nice, power included in rent.......

Yes in fact I purposely moved here back in the S3 days. Older apartment building without individual meters with electric baseboard heaters in each unit, so the building is a huge power sucker to begin with.....works in my favor :)

with current profitability i can roi in two months, that is a bargian, by the time dash is dumped i roied already on my a-900 giant

nothing can roi in two months at the moment...

i have gone ahead and made my 4 giants available for purchase at about 5 btc, 2 are already reserved. thanks :)

5btc for the 2 remainders? if so send me a pm.

to not create any confusion as my inbox is getting spammed :D

5btc each

also im located in germany and im only shipping inside germany (and maybe some neighbors)

now back on topic ;)

Is the United States close enough to being a neighbor for you?  ;D

one customer handles shipping to the usa on his own via his company, but unfortunately all miners are sold already
didnt expect it to work out that fast, it only took about 1hr for all miners to be sold :)

where on ebay you are selling them?

its a germany only (afaik) local site from ebay: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/baikal-giant-miner-a900-900mh-s-x11-x13-x14-x15-quark-qubit/621812041-168-4895
much like local newspaper ads, it doesnt take fees but customers arent protected as with ebay

Hi,

A lot of thanks for all your attentions and cares on Baikal.

We are out of stock on three miners at the moment, But trust me I will let all of you knows as soon as here I have any news be informed from company.

If later we can accept pre-order, No doubt on me to be here and write at the firt time I got this news.

Thanks again, I hope I will be back soon with good news for you.

Baikal

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
I hope those smiling faces could make you look here, cause i realize it is hard to attract attentions without a good displaying profile image. level is not enough now...  :'(

but can you tell us what the problem exactly is? i have a company and and i know exactly whats going on. why dont u?

i mean its not important that you sell, its important that we know when we can buy. i think we dont need a company that helds its customers in the dark.


@ all: does the anyone know, if the baikal miners have encrypted code on them? which company can we give orders for cloning the baikal miner? i mean in china its abolutly ok to clone and its a part of market philosophy :)

Agreed, If this would be a an expertise area, I'd say focus on one thing and be the best one. But in terms of investing, don't rely on single unit.

This has already crossed my mind as well... I mean...I remember back in the late 90's early 2000's it was big business up here in Canada regarding hacked satellite cards. I recall a certain someone sending a few of the card programmers to china for reverse engineering, which is actually not the hard part. Its what you program on the chips, so back in those days the program was readily available to load on the atmel chips making it much less difficult.

I bought a few of these when they first came out.  Played with them briefly then sold them.  This goes back to when there was not an altcoin trading for more than $3 (except Litecoin).
Tried to order a quad.  
They said sorry, they out of quads.  "Is there anything else you would like?"  
I asked when they would get them in.  
They said they had no idea and could not even estimate.  
I said, "OK, well give me 4 singles."  
"Sorry sir we are out of those too?"
What the ETA on those?
"We don't know and can not estimate?"
I asked, "What else do you sell?
"nothing sir"
So I assume we are only speaking with the hired help.  Someone else is pulling the strings.
My guess is either legal trouble or they are actually selling everything they get to big customers.
EDIT - of course what do I know.

I do not believe they are selling any to big customers (or at least those big customers are not mining with them yet). 

Why do I believe that?  Network-wide, the DASH X11 hashrate has not been climbing, it's actually down a bit this week from peak.  If they were shipping miners and big customers were mining with them, one would expect to see that in the hashrate. 

BTW:  This same argument holds true to debunk the suggestion that Baikal themselves were keeping the hardware and mining with it.

mining4bacon

they could be mining other coins

Well at least they give us some acknowledgement.

We will be looking forward to good news soon.

I'm surprised baikal comments here but hasn't showed up for months in the dash.org forums.

Anyways. First timer here. Hello everyone!

Hello and welcome

 The recent major price drop on the 1080 has thrown that into question on a few coins.

 But neither is going to be worth pointing at DASH given the much higher profitability they both achieve on other stuff.

Fake site posting on baikal threads

here is his/her fake thread (you can't post to warn)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848056.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848056.0)

[30-Mar-17 8:57:08 PM] baikalminer: Hi, sorry, we don't have any stock now
[30-Mar-17 9:35:56 PM] ME: any ETA for when new stock or new product?
[30-Mar-17 9:58:02 PM] baikalminer: Hi, we have no idea when we will back in stock
[30-Mar-17 9:58:16 PM] ME: have you stopped producing product?
[30-Mar-17 9:58:24 PM] ME: or trouble producing?
[30-Mar-17 9:58:27 PM] ME: or just mining?
[30-Mar-17 10:02:05 PM] baikalminer: No, we are not mining, we just making our production plan based on the market.

Dash mining power was upto 5 TH/s today.  Never seen it so high.  Difficulty has rose a lot because of this causing drop in profits. 

I wonder where this extra 2 TH/s has come from?

Don't need to wonder. Should be very obvious

Just my attempt at rhetoric to imply we've all been lied to.
Unless I've overlooked a big drop off on another x11 / quark coin...

Where are you seeing this?  I don't see it on the charts I can find with google.

It was on the what to mine webiste.
 
I have just gone back on the site and it's reporting to the opposite now.  Under 2 TH/s with a difficulty of 70k.   
Weird how it hasn't been picked up on other sites though.
Keep an eye on it tomorrow.  Not that we can really do anything about it

Short term spikes happen all the time on pretty much ALL cryptocoins - most sites that estimate hashrate do it based on time between blocks being solved, which has a significant random factor.

 IMO never pay attention to anything on a hashrate estimate that uses much less than a full DAY to go by.

Hi, there is a problem with sgminer/5.5.1-b, pool switching is not working, after auto or manual switch miner doesnt produce accepted shares, need to restart, all the newer version miners affected! Is there a link to burn  sgminer/4.9.3 on the sd card, as it seems fine.

My Baikals running on SGMINER 4.9.4. are also running good.its image is on Baikalminer website.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1GBwN5-i39VbDM0ZW4wTlU4OWc

Thanx, I think they already updated the image files unfortunately, will give a try anyhow.

i was under the impression that the giants have a 4gb card only, how does the 8gb image work for them?
the 3.0 image is the 5.X image, right?

I am talking about my Quads. 8GB. By the way if I were you try this version, same controller and same chips for hashing what the hack.

I have talk with bikalminer on skype, they told me that the miner was available but when I try to but from http://www.baikalminer.com/ but I get out of stock message.

Is the bikalminer account on skype fake ?

Please let me know

thx

yeah there are a bunch of fake baikalminer sites on skype.

use the skype they have on their www page make them verify thru them ail from their to you they are still out i think thou...only order thru the legit web site!

edit: the regular english side of the site does not come up https:// secure in any way ..weird..just informed them ...that should not do that :)

I just got on ...no stock on the regular baikalminer site....they informed me weeks ago you are just supposed to lurk on the www site till (or if) they announce lol

Since everyone is trying to put hands on baikal a lot of scams are following.

Take care people. Right now there is nothing in stock, w8 for official communication using a  certified channel.

i see, i made an image from my first giants which had the 4.9.4 sgminer on them and used it for my newer ones

i dont have them anymore, i sold them, but still have the image for future miners if necessary :P

Would you be so kind to upload it somewhere? I would honor it with some coins too.

sure, i just cleaned the web ui pass (is "baikal" now) and reset the hostname/hosts entry to "Baikal"

im heading to work, will update this post with dl link once compressing and upload is done

edit: here it is: https://transfer.sh/d2EiQ/giant.img.tar.gz
link will expire after 14 days, grab it while its there

Yes, be aware of sites taking advantage of the rampage of ppl looking for Baikal miners.
You're all already aware of www.baikalsminer.com - stay away from there!

Last week I finally got contact with Baikal via a Chinese chat. They are now on some Chinese holiday until April 5th. Anyway, they officially are sold out of A900's but will dispatch group orders of 35, possibly 30. A bit too rich for me but by the next day they said the batch was already taken anyway. They are bound to respond to an order of that size (or larger). If someone here is able to start a group-buy that's probably a way to go forward, I'm down for 5 of the units. PM me if you are able to administer a group-buy.

be careful see the posts above www.baikalsminers.com is a SCAM (note the s in baikal s miner.com) also of the 9 baikalminers on skype 8 are fake!

you want to contact www.baikalminer.com ...anytime I contact them on skype or email they just tell me no idea when/if another batch and to go away :(

but with x11 prices dumping may happen

worked out for me missing the baikalminer's past group buy thou....got bitmain L3's instead...

(dumb and lucky my motto on how to go thru the crypto universe...I'm like a baby ..crawling down the freewary unharmed around the wrecks)  :)

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sure, i just cleaned the web ui pass (is "baikal" now) and reset the hostname/hosts entry to "Baikal"

im heading to work, will update this post with dl link once compressing and upload is done

edit: here it is: https://transfer.sh/d2EiQ/giant.img.tar.gz
link will expire after 14 days, grab it while its there
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Thank a lot, will try them, meanwhile tried the v3.0 img from their site, on miningpoolhub auto-switch is finally working, but can not connect to nicehash eu servers, usa working well, weird, anybody experienced something like that?

Anyone manage to get a baikal 300 this last go around? (Today ..unless it is just a site revamp) Seems they are out yet again. Lag was bad. Probably sold out before the English page was redone. Also only thing on the page was 300mh baikal for 800 bucks and limited to 2 only


Annoying, having no notice :(

The page I tried today (new) anyway....assuming it is just NOT a page re-do only. Lag was bad enough I assumed they sold out ..but not sure..any info?

others?

baikal folk lurking on here?


later

brad

The site is slow, but I did get through.  It appears that they are out of inventory...again.   :(

Where did they post that they had stock?

See correction below..from baikal skype just now below...site revamp....it seems according to baikal skype person just now





Yeah the baikal skype folk say they will announce on the www site ..when available..but we seem to be SHOL if that is the case

oh well at 300mh and 120 watts and 800 bucks with a 5 month ROI or so on dash with dash dropping and difficulty shooting up...probably not a big deal.

Toy wise at worse in a year you would get your $$$ back...but by the time I got any at the prices they are increasing them too...it is not viable

for data hall anymore. Likely I will wait and get a used one..and justify it as a 'toy' factor (like the 150 bucks spent on a bitseed v2 bitcoin node because

i had no time and was too lazy to build it myself).....always a sucker for those whirly fan noises and blinking LCD's ..thus 'prudence' on purchasing miner

and asic equip when you have a 'home miner' addiction..is always best to keep in mind.....so will file this 'toy' away for later

Now Bit main L3's at 250mh and 400watts, on the other hand (that don't exist) hubba, hubba baby ..I'll fall of the wagon for them on my asic addiction in 2 seconds. IF I had an angle to get those!,,,alas ..unicorn ghosts at this point in time...can't even console myself with a frigging baby baikal miner :(

(so predictablle I am....) :) buy buy buy at some points.....other times run away, run away, run away...my only 2 speeds in regard to asic miner equipment ..I'm one sic puppy!

later

brad

New-Baikal miner Cube.

Next week open for sale.

more inform please check with www.baikalminer.com

https://i.imgur.com/WgnQoIrl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MLjPkVy.png

all ok..
but what about PSU???
it is not included??
right?

No PSU or cables are provided.
Just use a ATX PSU with a 100W minimum rating.
Looks like they are using the 6-pin PCIe connectors which mate to the cords on the ATX supply.

But now the price is $799. I got one 6 weeks ago for $300

not really worth it IMHO

You got the new miner 6 weeks ago? how?  ;D
Baikal mini miner was 150Mhs
This new miner is 300Mhs

you buyed the old one...
before, baikalminer mini was a 150Mhs...
this one is new, and is 300MHs...
andalso afted DASH bubble all wants this miner..
so they rise the price

Congrats Baikal!  Exciting news!  I can hardly wait to see how you updated the Giant. :-)  Please keep us posted.  Hoping there will be another group buy here! 

For anyone with one of the previous miners, do you mine the multi algo or is it generally more profitable to just mine dash?

Dash is rarely the best coin to mine. Right now mine is on MUE. Lately MUE or nicehash have been the best. On a multi-algo pool it does ADZ a lot, but my multi-algo doesn't mine MUE.

Thanks for the response.  I see MUE at the top of WhatToMine right now for the algos they include.  I have some PinIdea X11 miners but they only do X11.  I have in the past done some adz as well as goldblocks mining off and on but with those you have to accumulate a decent amount on the pool side, transfer it to the exchange, and then still get a good price.  WhatToMine might show adz as the most profitable at a given moment but considering the time it takes to turn it into BTC it isn't a sure thing that mining it now will mean more BTC later than mining something else now.  If I had to bet as to whether DASH was going to go up or adz was going to go up I would feel more comfortable betting on DASH, and that's without any comment as to the relative worth or utility of either of them.  Just that mining DASH seems like a safer bet in terms of getting a decent BTC payout than mining adz.  Especially more recently.

But I plan to get a couple of these Baikal units so the other algos are not something I have had to pay attention to before and I am just wondering if X11 is really the biggest factor or not when the other algos are also available.  Given the spread I see right now on WhatToMine I would probably do MUE with it but I am just curious as to how often it is that other coins are a better option than DASH for these Baikal miners.  Are you talking about MPH when you say "my multi-algo doesn't mine MUE"?  I see they don't have a coin using quark at all which is weird since they mention it in the post about the Baikal miner. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.msg16019833#msg16019833

MUE has gone up and down like a jojo for the past few weeks. Best stable is NH by a long shot for x11....

As I said before, Dash is rarely the best X11 coin. When my miner is on MPH it doesn't mine very much Dash, mostly ADZ and DGB qubit. That doesn't mean Dash isn't a better long term coin. That is up to you to decide. I'm only saying that at the time of mining, Dash rarely is the most profitable. If I was bag holding, between ADZ and Dash I'd definitely chose Dash.

MPH has been having too many problems lately, so I pulled my miners until he gets it worked out. Many people have reported getting like half their expected earnings. Me nor anyone else is saying the owner is scamming, in fact he seems to be a nice guy, but there are several problems happening. I measured mining performance there over a 3 month period and my miners got about 25% less than expected. 3 months of testing eliminates the pool luck factor. I would look on WTM and it would be saying one coin, while MPH was mining something much worse. It also has some quirks on highly volatile coins, which can leave your miner stuck on a high diff coin for hours. A coins diff will drop dramatically and all the pools hop on it, diff rises and they leave while MPH stays stuck trying to find a high diff block. Hopefully he will get things sorted out and add the right coins. He has been VERY slow to add any coins, which a pool simply has to do quickly.

The new miner looks a bit larger than the old miner.
Im assuming they are using a much larger fan also.
Any news on the noise-level of the new fan?

Could you please name a few PSU models that would work with this miner? I'm trying to google for one, but I'm drowning in the sea of tech specs and different interfaces (a noob here!).

You have wrong link for the CUBE on your web site.

Product id in the link (Buy now) is 10, but it should be 11 for the CUBE.

Baikal miner CUBE: http://www.baikalminer.com/mobile/product_view.php?ID=11

You have good thing going on and I'm happy with my four mini miners but please reduce the pace and take your time, you are having lots of typos in text and links.


It seems that they are using 120mm PWM controlled fan for the CUBE miner now.
Other specs remain yet unknown.

Tonnes of them on ebay. Personally, I have a bunch of Seasonic Gold 1KW range, given the consumption is only 80W, I could (in theory) power 10 of these "new" cubes from a single source.
Too bad I can only order 2 cubes...
So, on the cheap end, you could buy (or re-use) a 250W ATX or higher without difficulty to power 2 cubes, as long as they have the 6-pin PCIe power cords on the PSU.
I think I have some of the 12V @ 10A bricks also, could use those and use a barrel-to-PCIe adaptor...

i think here we have just one problem: the price..
before DASH bubble, the mini was at 300$ with 150MHs...
now, with the new hardware, whe are at 799$ buwith just MHs doubled...
199$ more!!!
I hope they can dump price...

If things go the path of bitcoin then high priced miners actually helps maintain higher price on the coin (speaking mostly of DASH in this case).  If people invest millions in mining gear they aren't likely to sell the mined coins for a loss so the price is held up.  Bitmain has had a lot to do with the price of BTC, more than I think most people realize.

I paid for my original 150s at $500 USD, so this is a discount from those prices!  That said, even at a higher price point I've paid these suckers off.  I'm ordering.

I paid 500 USD for the mini one. I think the price is not high for the cube one. I will give order.

Are both Baikalminer.com and Baikalminers.com legit sites?

NO, only baikalminer.com.  The second site is a scam.

Yes, the latter is legit if you liked to be fucked badly and ripped of your hard earned crypto by some russian lowlifes.

Hopefully everyone reads this completely and doesn't stop at "Yes, the latter is legit..."  To recap, baikalminers.com, with the S, is a scam site.

How many people have gotten a confirmation on buying one of these cubes?  I placed my order and sent an email but nothing has happened since...  Can't pay because I have no payment address, plus not even sure of the price.

message them on skype, they will ask for your order # and then you will be able to go into your baikal account to see the address to send btc. You will need to enter the tx id number afterwards and email them a picture of the transaction once there are confirmations

Be careful, most of the Baikalminer skype accounts are fake. The black/yellow logo should be the legit one.

I actually went down that path earlier but skype is such a peice of shit now that microsoft owns it.  I couldn't get into my old skype account and when I finally created a new account I saw a bunch of scam baikal accounts so I just bailed on it and uninstalled skype.

They did not respond to my initial email early this morning so I tried skype and got a response within 5-10 minutes

The FAKE baikal skype users gave me a btc address on skype to send coins to, DO NOT SEND COINS TO AN ADDRESS GIVEN OVER SKYPE

So much this!!!!

The BTC address will be given to you via the 'Shopping Cart Orders' via the official page after you get an email from Baikal advising the price has been worked out

Is it ok to send payment?

Has anyones status on the baikal site changed to paid?

i havent sent payment, on skype they ask order number. So anyone has sent payment via their website?

Payment has been sent, emailed last night with TXID and confirmations but site has not updated yet.

READ PREVIOUS POSTS ^^^^

Once you give your order number over skype, log into your account on official Baikal website, go to orders and the payment address will appear

How many cube units you bought? i can only 1

Same situation here, only they have send me the confirmation over email.

So it is safe then to send payment, as i havent replied the order number on skype

mine still comes up price not determined yet :)

Also was it $800 bucks as the price is quoted in BTC or did they pad it?



they don't reply to me on skype.....so send an email or just wait for this calculating price thing to disappear on the shopping cart?

I got 1 and my friend got one after I told her about it.

Hers cost .74xx BTC

Mine cost .72Xxx BTC

around $75 shipping I think. Waiting for the portal to change to Paid, unsure how it all works now as this is the 1st Baikal purchase either of us have made.

Edit: My order changed and is not listed as 'paid but not shipped' in the website. My friends says hers has not changed so speaking to them on Skype about her order now.

well...no response on skype ...my name does not match likely :(

i sent email to support and now an email to  baikal@baikalminer.com to be safe....so not sure much else I can do ..in that I'm dorked with skype and no reply

what a cluster this all is ..site confusing and otherwise :(

Judging by the number of payments to the BTC address it seems there were only around 50 units on offer.

Seems like a small run to perhaps build capital for the next run

I'm starting to worry that it was all a massive scam.

I got an email from someone called Charles Zhou after complaining that they would not accept dash and that their website is terrible.

He told me that they had "fixed" my order on the website so that I could pay in dash. I did that and sent them an email with a screenshot showing plenty of confirmations but the status of my order on the website is that it took me too long.

I have sent multiple emails asking about WTF is going on and I haven't had any response since I paid. None.

Has anyone here actually been told that they have successfully ordered a cube and that it's on it's way?

Via Skype I sent TXID and screenshot. My order then changed on the site to 'Paid but not shipped" Shipping will take place within 5 business days they say. I asked about my friends order and supplied screen shots and he said he forwarded to a colleague.

I think it's 1 or 2 guys managing it so responses may be slow with such high demand

This is my impression, too.  I ordered many times through email with them, and the process was definitely kinda weird.  That said, everything worked out fine with shipping and the products are rock solid.

What was the shipping? or was the $0 shipping on the page legit? Wondering (if you can tell with this cluster of when you paid btc vs when they said you paid etc) ;)

Hi,

I decided also to buy the CUBE.
I placed the order yesterday evening and today they replied to me via Skype.
They updated the "My cart" page with the BTC address and the required amount.

After sending all required screenshots and TXID the status changed to "Paid but not shipped yet"
I read that it needs 3 working days to be shipped

They gave me two hours to pay, and I was unfortunately notified at 0300.  If there are only fifty, I may have to sit this one out.  I'm too old to wait around in the middle of the night!

Caйт http://www.baikalminer.com/ - этo мoшeнники!!!!!  Hacтoящий caйт вoт  http://baikalminer.com/

Oh man I hear that.  Luckily I am barely young enough that I was able to stay up and handle it on skype and get it sorted.  Took like an hour and half all told and kept me up at least an hour past my bed time.

I look forward to hearing how well it runs!  Hopefully they will crank up the production and I'll be able to add a few to my collection.

If this new version is as good as the previous models I think everyone will be thrilled with them.  Very nice miners.

Where and when? You sure you can reach out to them and get us a guranteed pre order? If so i do half of the 30!

http://www.baikalminer.com/

Website is down. "Request timeout please try again later..."

Interesting, isn't it?  :P

That was weird.  But back up now.

I get an error trying to order one saying they are out of inventory. Seems this batch has already sold out. Such a shame, I had enough to buy one this time :( I doubt I'll be able to find one for a reasonable price now.

Quick update.  Baikal refreshed the pricing payment window for me this morning, so I was able to get my original order paid for.  I'm sure some of you will have them before I will, but I'll post pictures if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Nice.  You know I have a good feeling about these guys as a company.  I like that they are telling people that contact them about ordering a hundred that they can't do it. I like that they limited people to just one so more people can get one.  I hope they improve the website before the next round of hardware selling.

scammers how can you be happy?

No, I cannot guarantee pre-order.  I actually prefer someone else administer the group buy. I can help trying to get in touch with them. To be honest they havent replied on the chat the last 2 days. Last email I got they prefer ppl order through the site - but there's no stock.  Looks like a dead end..   >:(

I heard, that communications with Baikal is very very  bad, especially through emails. Usually they dont respond, or it takes ages.
For example one my friend ordered 3 days ago one Cube and immediatelly asked them for BTC price - they respond after one day, but in the night (EU time) so price in BTC expired. On other email request they do not respond.
Absolutely unprofessional.

Deleted this post.

They refreshed my order so that I could pay, and it must have been around 11PM their time.  It's a small company that probably didn't know what the demand for these products looked like.  I've ordered five different times over the past six months and they've never failed to deliver, which is all that matters.

I am buying four years ASIC devices from many manufacturers (several thousands, starting with Asicminer erupters/blades), so I really know something about it, so please dont tell me where to buy.
But I insist that it is wrong if Baikal is not able to set over three days the price of BTC and respond to emails. Baikal I recommended to my good friend and he does not understand why these basic things do not work.

Sorry, I did not mean to offend you.  It was only my intent to help.  I will now go back to minding my own business.  Best of luck in your miner purchases.  I hope you are able to work out your issues. 

Any update with cube purchase?

thanks for the reply. same here, feels like a dead end trying to discuss any kind of pre order with them.

I don't suppose there is anyone on here in my trust circle? It is 4 days later and Baikal losing my stuff..NOW informs me in USA at 3:22 am ..that
they can process my order...

of course I thought with no reply ...it was all gone right? I mean it has been frigging 4 days!

So, of course I am BTC less now ....scratching head ..hoping because they seemed to have lost me ..they will accept a wire xfer

or anyone who has dealt with or knows me on here in my trust circle (or someone who wants to get on it quick) contact me for a 800 usd btc loan

gonna suck watching this thing fade away on the 2 hr timeline i suspect I will be given

only thing I have to convert is lisk ..and shapeshift dont' take that to convert anymore

oh well......probably did not need the toy anyway..but figured I'd see if anyone was on that I'd done deals with on the thread

that could loan me some

been one wild week with bitmain equip and now this :)

anyway needed to vent thanks for listening

later

i just got a reply from Baikal.

hi
usually, 3 working days after confirm the payment. will be OK for shipment, due to current situation, we need to sort out all order, kind busy here, so it did takes longer time than before, maybe 5/6 days. Thank you for your kind understanding

so next week the cube will be shipped.. wooooo.. i manage to buy 1.. hahahaha

I was told IF something is sitting in your cart yet (in my case 4 days later) they will get to you..sounds like they had to start over and do it by hand
damn near fell off my chair when an email pop'd up at 3am asking to confirm address and if I was ready for a final price !!!!

also the 2 hour timeline you can contact them to tell when to hit the trigger when you have your BTC ready to send..if for some reason they do and it auto logs out after 2hrs and you are stuckI had some guys I know here...send and email saying they were frigging sleeping at 3am could they get a re-do and baikal said yes...so options

thus my BTC is synching now and I should be OK but last nite in my previous post I was like WTF...in that all my BTC went to L3+'s because
I thought my one order was toast..I think they thought that was frigging amusing

anyway folk with stuff in the cart from the previous cluster of a try to get these things...that got it as far as the cart contact baikal@baikalminer.com and
type carefully if it is baikalminer(s).com the scammers will take your money. Also they like to talk to you on skype if possible so they can see you are
set when they pull the trigger on final price and you have 2 hours to pay...makes sense

so you are set you tell them..they pull the trigger (reply via email or I think skype) and blamo ...you can get off the hook after days of this wild ride

(yea...now have TWO more units I did not plan for...the extra Bitmain L3+ and now this baikal 300mh cube...frigging ramen noodles and kool aid till
the next paycheck) :(

Dear ALL.

First of all, sorry for being here too late, recently is really busy here... two hands is really not enough!!!

So, one more time,  apologize for the delay of shippment of those friends who has made the payment, we have been trying our best to faster the process.

Good news is we already sorted out most orders that be confirmed on Monday, if everything is OK, we will start delivery tomorrow. Once miner be shipped out, waybill will be updated on website as soon as possible, keep an eyes on your order states. I really hope you all your guys will like this new toy!  :) :) :) . By the way, people who first buying products please must be careful, all correct contacting info can be found from our website, also we recommend you can double checking us by Email or skype if you are not sure.

One last thing, if you still have order number in hand not be confirmed, and maybe we missed your email, please do not hesitate to contact us to finish the order. friends who not able to book an order number this time, please be more patience, once next batch come, we will update news to our website.

best regards.
Baikal

Thank you guys for working as hard as you do.  We all want you to succeed!

TrX

i want to ask, if there is a way to mine two coins simultaneously with a-900 giant, i want to divide the hash in two coin, i see there are two thread that can mine, it should be possible in theory

If the software miner build on the Baikal allows you to enable/select specific ASIC boards, then yes, you should be able to run 2 instances of the mining software (manually) and choose what pool/coin to mine with each.  Much like Claymore, EWBF, etc allow you to choose to enable specific GPU's.   I believe the A900 has 2 x 450Mh boards.

Kyle

Afaik this should be possible through sgminer itself and loadbalance strategies, though i have not tested this

you mean the sgminer option i can see on the web gui?

yes, i know from someone how tried to achieve this but didnt get it working though

sgminer supports this via https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/blob/master/doc/configuration.md#load-balance

it might work with the latest 5.X sgminer included in 3.0 images, you might as well need to play around with the shell to get it working

The location of sgminer on the OrangePi is /opt/scripta/bin/sgminer.  The .conf file, where you will need to test your load balancing settings, is at /opt/scripta/etc/miner.conf.  These files are owned by the root user, so you'll need to sudo your text editor in order to save the file after changing it.  Be careful with the sudo command if you've not got a ton of experience under your belt.

Have fun.

Hi, from the GUI  you can try to "Add option"
left box: load-balance
right box: true
set priority in all the pool to 10 so every pool has the same hashrate

W_M

Anyone know what kind of power plug the cube needs? In the picture it looks like a 2x3(6) plug VGA 12V connector found on MB power supplies but there is no documentation on their website describing what it requires and they aren't answering email questions at the moment.

specs say 75W for X11.  other details in image linked.

http://www.baikalminer.com/ueditor/php/upload/image/20170414/1492137222606317.png

scroll down on this page (source):  http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11

EDIT:  Sorry you didn't ask for power DRAW, you asked about power PLUG.  Appears to be standard PCIe 6pin.
http://www.baikalminer.com/ueditor/php/upload/image/20170414/1492137222420076.jpg

Folks should receive their items soon (maybe by Monday some?). Please someone confirm once in-hand.  TY

Kyle

I ordered mine Monday morning and it still hasn't shipped so I'll be surprised if anyone gets theirs by next Monday but I hope someone does.

Some people still may not know this ..so will post it again ..to cut down on the PM's I got....AGAIN... IF you have a miner still sitting in your cart after ..what is it 6 days..it is still good to
pay...a lot of folk after 4 days (myself included) without hearing from them assumed that we were S0L ....

mine just confirmed after payment yesterday...so drag your buddies back to this ..those who have lost hope..and are not following this thread anymore...

(trying to chase one guy down..but he is on 'vacation' and went 'wireless' ..ack! how can you even go that long without internet cats is beyond me) :)

Anyway get the word out..to those who don't frequent bitcointalk and this thread daily ..I got more then a couple pm's from my last post...just double checking here


later

brad

Update
Just got my UPS tracking number from my order and this tracking number is working also on UPS site.

What day did you get your order completed? My order was not completed until Tuesday morning US EST.

Does anyone know when the next batch will be released?

I was also able to pick up one when they fixed the website yesteday, probbaly just   gona sell it

Anyone else having a problem logging on today? It won't take my PW and I've used it about a hundred times before so I know it's right.

I know the site does NOT work on my Iphone when I try to log in....works fine with the desktop ...weird...just an FYI in case that is your method.

I just got on a bit ago all was well

Baikal's representative wrote to me: “by the end of the month” in an email. So hopefully in two weeks or so from now.

Same 300mh unit? Or something new?

Got my tracking number. UPS shipping, should be delivered Tuesday. From China to USA-Midwest in 3 days!

Login to their website and look at your "Finished orders" to find your tracking number.

I guess they were talking about the Cube. Here's the full quote:

The cube was sold out, please wait for next batch on the end of the month.

It would be cool if they built a new quad out of Cubes, similar to the "old" quad with 4 Minis. That machine would be a killer!

Yeah, make sure you remove the /mobile/ from the URL.  The mobile site doesn't accept my saved password--modifying the URL to 'http://www.baikalminer.com/login.php' should let you in though.

I have a Baikal 150mh/s I'll sell for $500, which is what I paid for it. It has the latest software and runs great. These are seriously good miners. Why would I sell you ask? One word.......Vega. PM if interested.

I'll throw in the power supply for free.

What is vega?

Google AMD Vega

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-vega-gpu-specifications

I've been getting a LOT of messaging wanting to buy my miner. I don't wish to highjack the thread, so this will be my last post regarding my miner.

EDIT: I won't be selling the miner after all and most of you will understand why. My 6 year old daughter just informed me not to sell it because she has been secretly monitoring the Baikal on the web interface and changing what coin/algo it is mining. Apparently she has been watching whattomine and changing the miner for best profitability several times a day :P She knows I just ordered several A4's and components for 8 Vega based mining rigs, and she wants to help with those too.........for 5% management fee of course LMAO. Well at least she is interested in something other than boys and drugs. *feels relieved* Looks like my mining is about to take a 5% hit on fees while I still have to secretly monitor what she is mining  :-\

BTW, I didn't tell her that the Baikal mining software already mines the most profitable :P

careful there is am impersonator pretending to be me, if you get messages asking for btc DO NOT SEND

Well its look like dawn of BLOCKCHAIN generation. after internet and touchscreen generation.
or in this situation more of ALTCOIN GIRL. (SUPER GIRL MEME).

This afternoon when she is back home from school she wants me to let her assemble a mining rig. Of course that makes me a bit nervous, but what could possibly go wrong??!!! Oh wait.....she is 6. Dad is gonna a lot of need valium for this.

Great choice on allowing  your daughter to get involved. You never know she might surprise you.

My parents are still bummed out that they didn't let me buy 800(?) BTC back in 2011

Just got my UPS tracking number to be delivered to South Carolina on Wednesday. I completed my order last Tuesday, 6 days ago.

Mine is also set to arrive to the states on Wednesday.  Looking forward to an additional solid miner from Baikal.

I am also expecting mine CUBE on wednesday or thursday. though UPS is painful in handling packages here in this part of Canada.

Hi,

I'm new on this Board.

Just let you know: I ordered a Baikal Cube last Monday with Confirmation on Tuesday the Miner was shipped on Friday and Today it arrived an i startet mining 20 Minutes Ago.
(Im located in Middle Europe)

Br

Caeruleus

Please tell me how you have powered the cube.... you used a atx power supply with pci-e 6 pin or you used adapter that baikal send with the cube?
Thank you very much

Hi,

I used a old ATX Power Supply with the 6Pin pci-e Connector

Its an adapter Included if you have a Other Power Source.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2vtwt9k.jpg

br
Caeruleus

How did you do that guys? The website keeps on saying there's no units in stock. How did you make it happen?

Is the cube pretty quiet? How difficult was the setup? Mine comes tomorrow.

He said he ordered last week.  I paid for my order on last Wednesday, which means I placed it sometime on last Monday, CST.

I started my order on Sunday night April 9 right after they opened orders and finally completed it on April 11 after lots of frantic emails and skype attempts. I could buy one or two at that time. I think the inventory went quickly since they were in such great demand. They were difficult to contact during that time due to being so busy with orders and quotes. After placing an order you have to wait until they give you a final price in BTC or Dash in your "My Orders" area on their website and then only 2 hours from that time until they receive the funds. I had to send and then skype my confirmation to them from my wallet to show that the funds were delivered and came from me. The website really sucks but works most of the time.

Hi,

Setup ist very simple after you find out the IP adress of the Miner, there are predefined profiles already attached you have to delete them cause the miner instant starts to mine to their profiles... (i think from baikal itself or something) anyway you already know that the device has internet connection...

then you have to enter your mining pool (thats my first miner so i start with suprnova.cc ) they have the cretentials on their site ... only "stratum+tcp://dash80.suprnova.cc:443" and your username and workername (that you have to preconfigure on the suprnova site) has to be filed in.

quiet ? mhh its not very loud i think its like a fan in summer time or so... a stocking room or whatever will be the best place for it i think maybe a dry basement is also nice
 

br Caeruleus

I Ordered on Monday Morning 9:00AM CET Time.
China (Shenzen) is from my Home +6 Hours so that means it was afternoon in China when I ordered.
To NYC Time it means Shenzen is +12 Hours
That means if you are lokated somewhere in NY for Example and they start the Ordering Process on Monday Morning in Shenzen you have to stay tuned around afternoon 6-8 PM on Sunday or so...

Hopefuly i writing not totaly shit :)

br Caeruleus

Well I thought mine was arriving today (maybe it is) but I didn't notice that the tracking number attached to my order has a package going somewhere on the other side of the country.  Now that it is out for delivery in Miami Florida I suddenly noticed.  So someone in Miami is apparently getting one today.  Too bad I'm more than a thousand miles away from there.

any body have a quick source for the psu's to run this?

it is an adapter that fits into the 5 pin with a round connector ..it comes with the unit...you get that and the unit ...thats it zip

you need a power adapter

it is

12v 10amps

5.5mm x 2.5 mm (round) end  (lots of 2.1mm I have here no 2.5mm)

so anyone just trip over one of these at the local walmart or something ..comes tomarrow......baikal that is

amazon will get me one by next tues (lots of 2.1mm I can get the next day ..none at 2.5mm)

anyway worth a shot (would look creepy me scouring the toy aisle of shopko yelling ah ha...finding a toy with the proper adapter .trying to avoid that ) :)

I think it's a 6 pin PCIe slot in the cube. You can use a PCIe cable from a MB PSU if you have one or buy a 12v 10a power supply.

An adapter like that is to come with I was told. I can't find local 5.5mm x 2.5mm power
Adapter to power the barrel plug 10 amp

Supply power is the issue I think u put an atx in there it fries

Looking for that other psu source

Geez I hope not, that's exactly what I am planning to do.

Why do you say it fries if you use an atx PSU PCIe connector? That makes no sense to me.

I have got a  ;D New Baikal CUBE from here https://www.mininghardwares.com/dash-miner/baikal-miner-cube/baikal-miner-cube-300-mhz-miner but they only gave me one miner :-\.

Why it fries? doesent understand why ?

you mean the higher possible output on an ATX Powersuply i gues ?
This is no problem ... The Current (A / Ampere) are not "pushed" they are taken by the consumer...
It doesent matter if the Suply has 12V and 1000A ... the Cube will only use 10 or to be more accurate 8 A from the suplys this is how Electric Power Works.

trust me its my job ...

br Caeruleus

Is yours working well?

Thought I was told by baikal Skype. Thus the round adapter.  Pretty sure they use google translate
Maybe language issue. Should probably save such sessions. Clarify please

Yes Since 9 Hours now.
I also cant imagine why it should not ATX Power Supplys are much more stable in Voltage so there is no much +/- from 12 V and as said the maximum current is irrelevant its only the maximum from the power supply.

I did get mine about 30 minutes ago and it is up and running powered by PCIe from corsair PSU.  So yes, normal PSU PCIe 6 pin power works fine.

My cube is mining about 2 hours ago with a PSU Corsair  cx 750 with pci-e 6 pin, it's working fine! no problem.....

Good to know. Must have misunderstood on skype. Will keep logs from such to decipher
In the future.

 ZoomHash used to sell 10 A 12 VDC power cubes for use with Gridseed 80 units, which IIRC the cube used a 2.5 while the Gridseed works with either a 2.1 OR a 2.5

I"m good ....something with the translation..you can use a regular atx psu....for some reason I got turned around on what the skype baikal rep said in chat...thus
keep track of your skype with them and save is the lesson

I have one coming in a week ..but likely will just use the atx psu

sorry about the confusion..but damn was I confused :)

Baikal mentioned the BaikalScanner.exe utility in their documentation for the Cube to "find" their device on the network and they thought they were giving a link to it in the PDF but it was not a link. Does anyone know where to download this from?

Just use advanced IP Scanner. Works perfectly... no need to download any other program. I use this on all my baikal hardware.

I just received my unit this afternoon.  It's well built, as expected.

I did notice something interesting that's a change from the minis.  The controller is now an Orange Pi Zero, which has built-in wifi.  I'll crack open the image this evening and make a pass at getting the wifi configured.  It might be a good option for people with limited space or network cabling.

TrX

edit: the SD card is also way easier to access than previous builds.

I can't get mine to work correctly, would someone mind posting their config info here? I setup and tried to use suprnova which I used for other coins pointing to port 9995 and it just keeps saying miner loading with no devices running and no pools loading. I then tried to use port 80 as mentioned on suprnova with the same problem.

Try this:
URL: stratum+tcp://x11.usa.nicehash.com:3336
Algo: X11
User: <any BTC address>
Pass: x
extranonce: checked
Priority: 0

Honestly it sounds like something is wrong with the miner but the above stuff should at least show if you can connect to a pool.  Just put your BTC address for the user name.

Thanks, I did get it to refresh/work with a power cycle and now it is mining suprnova.

Trying to /SSH into the baikal 300mh cube

I get into the unit fine and the directory...but have lost all memory on how to get mining screen to come up on
such stuff via /ssh and putty

embarasing ..I used to know :(


anyone want to show me how to make a batch file again so I can ssh into this baikal 300mh cube
via putty?

I have an old (no longer upgradeable to XP) laptop with linux on it ...by the cube so I can watch that in the basement ..chug away...

I used to know this stuff..been awhile

sheesh.....(gone plug and play too long)

repost it here for everyone ..I'm sure not the only one who wants to know this

later

brad


edit: by the by..my cube is hitting 310.1mh solid....what are others getting?

I'm getting 309.6 mining on Suprnova.

Solid 310 here also

That would be amazing to use it with wifi. They have different data cable than the a900 so cant link them, too much lan cable. Can you share the image if you succeed?

I also noticed that this device runs 310 pretty consistently.  No complaints on my part!

The change to the Orange Zero does increase the load on the system significantly though.  It doesn't seem to affect the mining performance, but the minis consistently ran at 0.15 and the cubes are running at 4.0 load,  Hopefully we won't see any issues arising from the high load on the controller.  It does seems to take longer to load the web interface.

The cube, at least in my environment, also seems to run a few degrees hotter than my minis.  That anecdotal at best, but things to keep in mind.

I'm going to be fiddling with it today, I'll put up instructions when and if I get it working.  It's running Ubuntu, so should be simple enough to configure.

I was just wondering,

what's the ideal operating temperature for the cube?
what's the maximum that it can go before pulling in the plug?
i'm in the range of 42-43 degrees, what about you guys?

mine is 34c but it is 50F outside in basement with windows open :)

again anyone want to walk me thru how to use putty to /ssh terminal into this beastie?

I forgot how :( (plug and play is my life) :(

thanks you can post here for all or we can hide my igrnorance via a pm

So the sgminer instance is running as the root user, rather than the baikal user.  You said you already attached, but I'll list the instructions for anyone that would like to give it a try.

Windows users will need to use PuTTY, and I don't have it in front of me to remember the connection dialog, Google that bit.

For Mac OS X and linux users:


The password for the baikal account is 'baikal' lower case.  If this is the first time you've connected via SSH, you will likely have to hit "Y" to the prompt to save the key fingerprint.

Since sgminer is running as root, we'll need to use sudo to run all the remaining commands.  We'll start by using the 'screen' command to find our sgminer instance:


The screen command should show you a message similar to this:


Every instance of screen should start with a different number, followed by ".sgminer"  Mine started with 986 in the example above.  You'll need that information for the final step:


This command is telling the screen program to attach to the already running instance of sgminer.

One important note!  If you kill this instance of sgminer your machine will stop mining until you reboot the device.  To exit this screen and leave sgminer running, hit Ctrl-A followed by the D key.  It should clear the screen and look something like this:


Have fun!

Hello folks,

Those of you reading this thread and running any model of Baikal ASIC miners – would you please be so kind to share your personal recommendations on what pool it's best to mine and what algo/coin. I'm waiting for my Cube to arrive and the best idea I've got so far is to sell its hash power with X11 on NiceHash. I'm sure there are better and more profitable solutions that that, though! Please share your view and tips.

Sincerely,
Oleg

After working on this all morning, I'm afraid someone smarter than me (which is, like, 3/4th of the planet) will have to make a pass at it.  The drivers don't appear to be installed, and the Internet is packed full of people pulling their hair out trying to make the WiFi work on the Orange Pi Zero.  Since this is a "production" machine, I'm afraid to strip it down to it's nuts and bolts before I've made back my purchase investment.

Once I hit 100% ROI, I'll make a more invasive pass at it.

Cheers.

TrX

I got today my new Baikal Cube miner.
When I deleted the default pools and add my new pool settings the miner is not starting. I was clicking the save pools button. This is on Miner Down state.
When I try restart with cgminer soft reset button I got an "Miner:111 Connecton refused" error message.

The red led on the miner is on , the blue is blinking  and the green is off state.

How can I start the miner? Is possible an HW failure?

Did you remove the api-port and api-allow settings?  I imagine removing 127.0.0.1 might break things.  If all else fails, re-image your SD card and start over.

TrX

I remove the api-port, this is not solved the my problem.
Where can I download the Cube SD card image?

I had a very similar problem with connection refused after I deleted their default pools and added mine. I use suprnova and wasn't sure what port to use. Suprnova does not mention port 9995 for this but it does say 80 and 443. I tried 80 but it didn't work maybe because everything was already screwed up by then so I just left the 9995 alone after recycled power. I recycled The miner since it would always say starting and no pools were showing up. When I powered the unit off and on and everything that was initially there appeared again and the miner started up OK after the power recycle. I just changed the suprnova config to use my account and been fine ever since.

Anybody else pay for a baikal mini 300 yet never got delivery confirmation and being ignored by baikal??

I sent 0.72182 BTC  to address 1GHFCBgT9ouScAz95ERSbSpk2EKiS3RBbX within minutes after my order was confirmed. Order shows unpaid and baikal will not respond to my emails or repeated questions on skype

I'm mining x11 dash at suprnova but i heard https://www2.coinmine.pl/ was better for dcr and maybe dash. MUE looked the most profitable last time i checked

Did you email your payment confirmations? I sent mine right away and they asked for another copy on Skype which they accepted right away. They have been slow to answer me but stay persistent and skype during their working hours in China.

Contact them via Skype. I received mine

what do u mean as "better" for dash ?

I sent tx confirmation via email as well as skype within minutes. I have sent numerous emails and skype message to the proper skype user while they are "online" but being ignored. Curious if anyone else is having this problem

where do u have bought it ? i haven't got any problems.

baikalminer.com

I purchased from the legit site, contacted via skype with order number, they updated my cart on the website with btc payment address, I sent coins, then sent tx confirmation via email & skype. Waited for website to update cart as paid but this never happened and they wont respond to me via email or skype. Very odd

just reset your whole system.. turn off modem for 3min.. then do all the reconnection..

ok i've bought from another seller. But don't panic, if is legit, is just a delay :) . Turn off the computer,  do something else and then watch ur email.

Does anyone know what the private key under remote control is used for and whether any of the SGMINER options could be changed or some added to make it run faster? The manual is very bare bones and none of this information is explained and I'm kinda afraid to touch anything.

That is odd.  You're the only person I have heard say this.  They are not good at returning emails from what I have seen but when I did get the skype conversation going they did respond and update my order appropriately, both when I asked for a payment address and when I sent the confirmation screen shot.  Not even sure why they need the screen shot though, they can check it out themselves.  

I did have one hiccup though, they put the wrong tracking number in my order on the website.  I contacted them in skype and told them and they responded with nothing but a smiley face emoji and then they logged off.  I sort of wondered if the person on skype didn't understand me, like maybe they didn't understand English very well or something.  The person I dealt with through skype to arrange the payments seemed to understand English well enough though so I don't know.  I imagine they are busy with a lot of interest in their hardware.

Did you by any chance try their after sales email address?  They had two different ones on the website, one for presales and one for after sales support.

found the instructions , btw can I just hook up the unit to a normal PSU six min port ? I don't have an adapter that matches the one sent by baikal

Yes.

thanks it powered up, final question does somone have a link for the baikal scanner tool ? on the cube PDF it does not work

Download Advanced IP Scanner

I have a copy of the pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwcZRuMDzkaoSzEzNTlvY1dCcDg/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwcZRuMDzkaoSzEzNTlvY1dCcDg/view?usp=sharing)

I found the tool they have it at this link , https://github.com/baikalminer/multi-algo-miner

miner was mining on the defualt pools at 325 mhs wow , but when i changed the pools all of a sudden it wont mine

gona try and restart it

rebooted it an it is still not recognising any pools that were entered baffled here

04:22:01] Loaded configuration file /opt/scripta/etc/miner.conf                                                                                           
[04:22:01] Probing for an alive pool                                                                                                                       
[04:22:11] Waiting for work to be available from pools.                                                                                                     
[04:23:01] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.                                                                                       
[04:23:01] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have input                                                                       
[04:23:01] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or have not set up workers                                                   
[04:23:01] Pool: 0  URL: stratum+tcp://quark.usa.nicehash.com:3345  User: 1EHJ39sCHMqmJnMqgsimdfwoGCwRWaBL2  Password: x                                   
[04:23:01] Pool: 1  URL: stratum+tcp://x13.usa.nicehash.com:3337  User: 1EHJ39sCHMqmJnMqgsimdfwoGCwRWaBL2  Password: x                                     
[04:23:01] Pool: 2  URL: stratum+tcp://x11.usa.nicehash.com:3336  User: 1EHJ39sCHMqmJnMqgsimdfwoGCwRWaBL2  Password: x                                     
[04:23:01] Pool: 3  URL: stratum+tcp://qubit.usa.nicehash.com:3344  User: 1EHJ39sCHMqmJnMqgsimdfwoGCwRWaBL2  Password: x                                   
[04:23:01] Pool: 4  URL: stratum+tcp://x15.usa.nicehash.com:3339  User: 1EHJ39sCHMqmJnMqgsimdfwoGCwRWaBL2  Password: x                                     
[04:23:01] Press any key to exit, or sgminer will try again in 15s.                                                                                         
[04:23:01] No servers could be used! Exiting.

this is what i seen when i pull up the linux screen any ideas ?

Maybe time to Skype Baikal as this is their Friday daytime working hours to get their support on this.

seems like an issue with nicehash , other pools seem to work wierd

Couple of months back had same issues with my giants, strangely most connection problems was with nicehash pools for a lot of us. I couldnt connect for 2 days to eu pools, only us and china, after it solved. Contacted nicehash admin, they could not give a legit answer, tough if too many invalid shares given by a device, the ip is banned for a couple of hours. If anybody has issues, try a definitely working pool like suprnova or whatever, if miner still cant connect, than try to burn the image file again, link is on their website. So far nicehash works well for me.

FRAUD ALERT DO NOT SENT BTC TO ANYONE CLAIMING TO BE FROM BAIKAL USING THIS ADDRESS IT IS A SCAM
1edNBf4sAn1VuTbTLFqpJok4Z4G8QBqYS

I paid BTC0.7383 to 1EoX4arqRPRngtkLMvrHv2boEbPCQmvpS1 then sent transaction confirmation to Baikal via email. Had it answered quickly and had a follow-up email conversation with some additional questions, all answered promptly. It was yesterday. Then this morning (Friday) I got a message from DHL informing me that my Cube was on its way from China. So far so good… *fingers crossed*

May be more consistent with the reported hashrate (I read this from someone who switched from suprnova to coinmine for dcr)

I would give my left arm for one of these I want one so bad

understood. thx

I was trying to order and contacted one of their skype accounts. He told me I was wasting his time and if I wanted to be blocked when I asked for an email verification / quote via email to be sent to me. He sent me a bitcoin address that he has since deleted. When I furthered the point of just wanting to verify he went MIA

I hope you have not been scammed, it is middle of the night for them I believe . . we will see.

To my knowledge they have only one skype account and all of the other ones are scammers.  The best way to handle it is to have them update your account on the website with payment info and then get the payment info from the website.  If the skype person says they can't or won't do that then you are probably not dealing with the legit baikal account.

Yep they specify the bitcoin or dash address in the order once they put in the exact coin amount to be paid. That is the only address that should be used.

anyhow all orders are finalized thorough email, wich is baikalminer.com  NOT+ baikalminerS.com + NOT 

I finally got an email reply from Baikal. They must have overlooked my order and apologized. My account on their website has now been updated to paid and shipped!

Ahh good deal.  Thanks for posting.  I was wondering about it.  I sincerely hope they fix the website.  They could eliminate all of this skype and email headache with a properly functioning web site.

I registered for the site two days ago and it still hasn't been approved.

Not sure what to do as you cannot purchase without registering.

He wrote me skype

just a little more patience, the next bacth of cube will come soon by the end of april.

I received it today (After customs inspection and a lot of papers)
Is up and running 310MH  steady.

I have reduce the fan speed from 80 to 50 and the temp now is 40c.

Any body knows what is the safe temp limit?

Is anyone else have issues with their CUBE "falling off the network"? 

It becomes unpingable from LAN (and you can not ssh or load http interface).  Also Awesome Miner monitoring software shows it as Disconnected; that is how I initially noticed this was happening.  It DOES however continue to mine.

I do not believe this is an issue with my local network, I have other miners (S9s, A4s, mini's, quads, A900s) and never had this problem with any of them before.

EDIT:: I assigned it a static IP and it has not dropped off the network for 48hours.

Mining4Bacon

what is their 'true' skype? i can see the status is 'away'?

I've just got my Cube. Ordered and paid it last Thursday morning (European time), got it shipped on Friday, received it today (Monday afternoon). Got it unpacked, set-up and running in less than 15 minutes. Now hashing happily at 310 MH/s. I will share the unpacking and setting-up video, if anyone's interested.

Would love to see it! Thanks for sharing

problem here, mine just keeps rebooting every 60 seconds, plus Miner loading  -  Pi 32s  -  Temp 67°C  -  Load 0.06 67 c without mining anything since i cant configure since it boots me out every 50 seconds..

repushed the 4g  image to sdcard... same results...

Did these things go from $300 to $799 ?

Yes but the hashrate is double. The fan is bigger, it draws a bit more power. It's a double the machine for double + premium the price.

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESuU-1dVtJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESuU-1dVtJw)

Anyone know if it is common business practice for Baikal to do preorders?

If they have done preorders, was it directly to one person and not through the website?

They don't do preorders. Website only

So their Skype has been hacked??

Only one out of 8 baikalminer on skype is legit. Even if you get one thru skype in
Some manner you pay thru their shopping cart method on main site

edit: was told only thru confirmation email sent to the main baikal email...so not thru the www site shopping cart

fyi.....not sure yet on all this ....monitoring it ..supposedly this goes thru april 27th if this is a scam it won't last that long imho

which one? i have their skype name: baikalminer

THEIR LEGIT ONE NOW HACKED ALSO. OR I MAY BE A INSIDER JOB.

well....

likely it is legit because their site is so screwed up this is the only way to get pre-ordes...or so the arguement could be made.

or hell why limit only 4 cubes and I think only 4 quads?

supposedly we have till april 27th so will ponder this

but they will have to have hacked both the legit skype (same as I used legit on my last and the last baikal 1 cube order)

and the email also is the same legit one used in the above previous order

so anyway how I see it (thou big spender that I am the only risk I have is 2 cubes as my share) :)

no reply yet...probably counting orders first to compare to supply ..which with an april 27th deadline and such that is kinda

what you'd have to do I'd expect or you'd over sell

but I'm still not commited yet..just thinking out loud here with the rest of us confused 'lemmings'

(keep telling myself with the prices of crypto now there will be plenty of equip ..no need to buy everything the 1st 1/2 of the year)

edit: make your own decisions on this .if you want to pay or play tin this manner, their site was so crappy it very well could be hacked ..it was an ugly (still is) unsecured site at best

Why do you say this?

I just got a bounceback on my email to baikal@baikalminer.com.  This is the same address I used to communicate with them before.  Not sure what this means but I can think of more bad reasons than good ones.

well i sent the inquiry letter is all like skype person said...would be epic if skype and email were hacked I guess

no  one has sent any btc right?

could also be they are getting slammed...the baikal site proper is slow...

only other thing is all my orders are gone..including the finished order...last time that happened they added to my page from
shipping to finished

fun times .... stuff to do I guess (like watching asic car wreck) :)

I've sent BTC for 1 unit, overpaid 400USD too!

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder792/250x250/38297792/fingers-crossed-fingers-crossed.jpg

Well ...I salute you (no matter what the meme below says...from my evil side) we shall see..me I have no reply so no issues on this yet ...if I shall see if I
'man up' and do same......doubtful I have the scars from 'sure thingits' from BFL/KNC/Alpha Tech etc....so likely will run away to mommy and not do so :)

Your bravery is an inspiration (if not scary as f*ck) :)


https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder111/500x/58192111.jpg

Hehe, well, I ordered the cube from the same email address like a week ago, and I got it in my mailbox yesterday. Never thought about getting scammed tbh.
I just couldnt help myself, the gear addiction is real!

If this turns out to be a scam, it would be my first during my 4 years of mining cryptos. I guess I've been lucky in that regard.. so far! :p

Well ..it is nite in China now. I did not get a reply..thus will see this coming day

sheesh what a cluster

brad

And now mail server failed to receive email?

On 1st April 2017 the MX record for baikalminer.com is mxn.mxhichina.com but now the MX record changed to wmx.ecounterp.com ?

http://research.dnstrails.com/tools/lookup.htm?domain=baikalminer.com

Something not wright

This could be a good thing tho. ERP = Entreprise Resource Planning. Maybe they are upgrading their sales/support systems?

It would make sense if they are migrating their email system as well. It could take hours to update all the END servers!

Or maybe I'm in denial! xD

I got my cube a few days ago. Baikal's website was a nightmare to order from but they came through for me twice now.

I have a mini and a cube both hashing on a Singapore node of the Dash P2pool and I'm getting regular payment to my wallet.

I'm sorry for all the people who have had problems but for me it was all OK. I had very little confidence after my experience of ordering the cube but I have to say: you can trust Baikal if you are patient with them and use their email as much as you can when ordering.

The question isn't whether baikal is trustworthy, the question today is whether someone is impersonating them.

I can't get it. Baikal seems to earn enough to have a good website and customer service. I've just sent USD wire for 3400$ and when I came back the email server is down and skype is offline. Should I cancel it? Someone did wires before? what is the beneficiary name?

I think the concern right now is that they are behaving out of the norm.

Ordering through email or skype not the website.  Also, I got an email saying order through skype and others who skype getting a message saying order through email.

Same with me, I talked to 2 different ppl, and the email of the other person is not broken. I don't know what is going on

I'm trying to contact them via that mail as wel... same here => 'Recipient address rejected: User unknown'.
I almost bought it yesterday in pre-order via skype (legit user baikalminer)... Sincerely, I would be having a heart attack at that time trying to get answers (and getting no response) if I had sent over $3196 in btc.  :o
OMG... I don't even know what to think now  :-\

I tried right now to contact them with the email and i get this reply "Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to baikal@baikalminer.com because the address couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again."

The reason they want to talk on skype is because they don't want a long dialog back and forth on email.

My first cube order was done all on email, because my account never got verified on their website. It all worked out.
This time (30min after FB ad/release) I contacted them on the same email regarding the quad cube. They told me to talk to them on skype (to avoid dialog via email).
I then told them what I wanted on skype, and they gave me a "template" (quantity, payment method, address and phone#) they wanted me to "fill in" and send them on email to get an exact quote.
They then gave me a price based on the chinese btc price. 1 BTC = 7300 CNY = 1060USD/BTC.
I paid, and they told me they will send my unit during the second week of May.

Is it really that fishy? Am I being naive? xD

Edit: I got fucked, didn't I?

I received an email from their "official" email to order on skype, so that is alarming what you said. .

Am I reading you all correctly and Baikalminer is fucking everyone out of an extra $400 for an $799 miner?  WTF?  They need to go put real USD prices on site than and not lie about it.

Is there some baikal miner in stock right now? I don't think so...

3700$ for an 3300$ miner :p

actually price shows $3196 miner.  So they are really cheating. There site shows USD not China prices.

Can you screenshot your conversation if not here then send me a PM? I am curious and just want to see if they line up.

That was with shipping tho!

$400 for shipping is pretty insane though.  Those cubes are light so a tower of 4 of them would not be very heavy.  You can get an antminer, which is heavy, shipped from china for less than $100.

$400 for shipment?? Really?! I didn't know that

Wow.. $100 shipping that better not be 20 day shipping. I get products ordered from China all the time for Drone stuff and it is pretty cheap from Banggood.  A 10KG package for 5-8 day shipping is $29.00 and $5.80 for shipping.  It seems this company hates American's and wants to cheat them as much as possible.

Not using the USD value for BTC or Dash coins to buy unit so they can charge a lot more for unit.
Charging 3 times the cost of expedited shipping.

Does anyone know of any sites that legitimately sold them before they sold out besides Baikalminer?

It better be a scam because in USD that is only around 2.3 coins total.

If you actually pay there scam price you are paying at least $1100 for a single cube before shipping.  The ROI is gone it will take you 177 Days to ROI at $1100 not including shipping if the coin remains at current value.. It already dropped once quite a bit.

That has a to be a scam or otherwise they can fuckoff that's ridiculous

these dont even include PSU correct? or do they?

Well if it was 52 bucks for a cube 2 day mail. Maybe that was some of that...postage I mean

Still a cluster. But what came to mind

anyone else had this issue with past purchases from Baikal? the mark up price for paying with btc?

Again 2nd day air a cube was 52 usd to USA so it $400 is 2x that for 4 cubes.  Weird

I meant this post..

anyone else had this issue with past purchases? the mark up for paying with btc and cny exchange rate?

How have most paid for their miners? bank wire? BTC? I assumed BTC would be the quickest and most cost effective way to do business with them?

I'm sorry to see people having issues, I hope it all gets sorted out soon.  Seems like a pretty good miner and I'd like to get one, but the website always showed them out of stock.  I wasn't even aware they were asking people to use email / skype...I'll just hold off until the website is fixed and they have inventory again.

Excuse me, I am not following. How's that $1100 for a single Cube before shipping? When I ordered my Cube from Baikal (yes, also via email, not via the website) last week, I paid $799 for the machine itself plus $50 for the Express shipment with DHL from China to Sweden. The Cube was shipped the next day (Friday) and arrived at my place on Monday. I paid with BTC, BTC0.7383 altogether.

I am not saying that the current situation is the same as it was last week, when I ordered. Reading all the stories that people share about the weirdness of their Skype communication, non-responsive email address, etc, makes me extremely concerned. I wanted to order another Cube after I had received my first one, but I don't dare to do it now, under the current circumstances.

But I want to understand the line of reasoning that you used when you said you would be paying $1100 for a single Cube. Thank you in advance!

My first orders for minis and giants were done completely via email.  When I ordered my cube they had me place my order on the website, then I confirmed shipping info and arranged payment (in BTC) via email.  The website is pretty rough, it always always redirects me to the mobile version.  I have to remove the "/mobile/" from the URL before it will even let me log in.

As has been discussed before, I believe this operation is ran by a few individuals.  Hopefully the payment and inventory system gets an update soon.

Website complaints aside, my early units have been running for six months or so without a single issue.

TrX

Just try to send them an email, anything (to official email: baikal@baikalminer.com) and see what happens...  :-\ ???

For what it's worth the support address doesn't bounce.  But if they were going to get rid of the baikal address on purpose why not remove it from the website?  They took the time to add the quad cube miner to the website, would have been no additional effort to remove reference to the baikal address.

Skype


Now we are accepting the pre-order of new product Quad-cube , details for pre-order please refer to below information:
1)   Price: USD3196/unit.
2)   Delivery time: the second week of May.
3)   Payment term: 100% payment in advance.
4)   Payment method: US dollar and BTC.
Please let us know if you are interested.

Another thing that shook my confidence in sending btc to them: The official skype guy (baikalminer) told me 2 days ago that there is no limit on how many cube I could buy... so I thought ... "how strange that"! When I tried to put more than 1 unit in the cart, a message appeared saying that the limit was 1 unit per purchase. Then I questioned him about it and he stopped answering me.  :-X

Yes, I got this on skype yesterday and I'm thanking myself for not sending anything... I'm not saying it's a scam, but I would be really desperate because that money is part of my life savings. I can't even imagine my despair if I did not get any response today (via skype or email), one day after the purchase.

I love the baikal miners, but the way they're doing business is not professional at all... I hope baikal shows up here to clarify what's going on

well their email server dumping ....the fact nothing shows up on shopping cart on the site.....the fact that skype tells me to send info to email account .(in my case no reply)
..the point that it is 400 bucks more then stated on the site when the bill comes....

and most importantly NOTHING from baikal on the account here or on facebook they are having issues..I mean I get it ..but if all an't well
you'd think someone would reply on facebook or on the forums to say..'hey this is how we are doing it now due to www site not working for us'

nada..nothing..etc

more stuff then that ..but what has come to mind so far

OH also their site forever has not had https:// security on their user accounts...if they are as lax on their own internal setups they could be hacked

if nothing else they run the worst online store of any type I've ever seen

so yeah ..it is more then just a few things when you add up the other 7 fake skype baikals on skype and etc

but if any site were to get hacked in asic crypto world it would be theirs ...of that all of us have little doubt...it sucks that bad...(though to your point
all may be fine..just stuff is adding up...to point to the possiblity that all is not 'kosher' in baikals web store world.

we will see it is night in china now....so this coming day...some of this may get clarified....hopefully

if nothing else would like to know where people who have paid are paying $400 bucks more for a quad..that seems wierd by itself...from the listed price

I will lurk and watch for now....(no reply to my email anyway so easy to do) :)

the facebook was updated but the skype deal seems fishy i dont think im ordering anything until they fix the website

Most useless thread on bitcointalk right here.

baikalminer.com is redirecting to the same place the email is coming from now (ecount erp).  Except it is going to a webmail login page.  Or maybe that has been the case for awhile?  I just noticed I forgot to put www on the front.  www.baikalminer.com still goes to the crappy website.

Any one has sent wire payment in USD?

they send me a form to pay by wire , but ill hold off seems fishy

Can you show us what the form looks like? and from what did they send you that - email? skype? forum?

I am talking with Baikal now via skype. They are asking for payment upfront for second week of May shipment.....Yes I agree odd as they never asked in the past for prepayment of orders.....like Bitmain style.  I will hold off and wait for stock.

Now we are accepting the pre-order of new product Quad-cube , details for pre-order please refer to below information:
1)   Price: USD3196/unit.
2)   Delivery time: the second week of May.
3)   Payment term: 100% payment in advance.
4)   Payment method: US dollar and BTC.
Please let us know if you are interested.

did they say this to you?

Same Copy Paste to me over Skype.

Singapore bank? UOB Bank right? they re-send bank detail with account number and beneficiary name now..It is a company name. I tried to call UOB Singapore, they wont disclose the account holder if this is legit or not, Bank just informed me to look at the forum LOL...but we are all scare like hell being scam with real baikal or not ?!?!

This batch of miners, not through the website sales. Through the official email confirmation of order Sent on: 11:14 pm From: baikalminer If all your questions have been answered, Please start a new email with below details and send to our official email baikalbaikalminer.com?for asking quotation and complting the order.1) Purchase quantity. (eg: Quad-Cube * 4)2) Payment method. (bank transfer/BTC /DASH)3) Detailed shipping address with phone.4) Any special requirements

its a pdf

USD account number: 451-906-071-4 Beneficiary: VITCOREHOLDING
 
  Bank Details: Bank Name: United Overseas Bank Limited Branch Name: UOB Main Branch Address: 80 Raffles Place UOB Plaza 1 Singapore 048624   Bank Code: 7375 Swift Code: UOVBSGSG Branch Code: 001.
 
 
Please note don’t write the words like “miner” in the postscript, and email us the bank slip once you finish the payment.
 
The person who transfer the payment should be the receiver in the waybill.

Can people who have ordered successfully from them in the past chime in? How'd you pay, to where, order confirmation? etc

edit: I sent them a link to this thread and asked them to post us a reply . .  we will see if they can take the 2 minutes to do so. .

I ordered a cube via their website. Contacted them via Skype with order number, they updated their site with price and the shopping cart displayed a BTC address to send to. Made payment, contacted again over Skype with TXID and confirmation screenshot. They then changed the order on the site from unpaid to 'Paid but not shipped'

Yea let us know. Before we ordered via their website and pay with btc (contacted them via skype they convert payment usd to btc, and send conformation btc payment to them via skype and their web).

they replied with this - Website have our contact QQ, Skype, email. Advising clients to multiple certification of our identity

I imagine they will not be posting in this thread .. lol

HUH??? i do not understand what they mean.....may be you should use google translate to Chinese simplified/traditional to ask question......

I paid for a cube using BTC quantity based upon what they specified in my order on their website that includes shipping based on my address. It was pretty clearly documented what their policy is and it is not via USD and wire. We could only pay with BTC or Dash. This definitely sounds like a scam. After sending them the BTC I sent  a screen shot showing 2 confirmations and then they asked for additional confirmations via skype the next day which I provided in realtime. I also noticed that their email is currently non-functional and I am pretty certain their is no inventory available at the moment awaiting their next shipment.  We could also only purchase one or two in our order. Their website is the worst I have ever encountered in trying to order something and I was constantly in fear of something getting lost or not being able to logon again, which happened several times to me.

AND my previous order (finished order) record was gone..clean, like i never bought something from them...

Maybe they were hacked and have restored the site from backup as my finished order and previous FAQ questions are gone.

From that previous order, do you received the miner and is everything okay? When you buy it?

Should we assume since theyre now accepting USD wire transfer that they have been compromised or are we all going crazy lol

I wish American companies produced chips so we get better service... They are online but nothing is clear. Ppl throwing money at them and they can't even provide support and organize a simple business process

Same thing they sent me information about how to preorder for quad and to be shipped by 2nd week of May. I have talked to someone who supposedly bought from them several times and had always paid with btc and successfully got his orders. However, I don't know how long ago that was. Baikal website and skype seems pretty sketchy today. Yes, I also sent them an e-mail that bounced back on several occasions today. I sent them skype replies and has not responded for several hours after giving the "order request" form to be filled out via email.

Does anyone have more info about the baikalminer.eu site?
And did anyone order anything from it? I really don't know what to believe anymore
But really want that quad!

SCAM STAY THE FUCK AWAY

Dear All.

Really sorry for all the troubling. I Hope below clarfications could be helps.

For the safety of all customer's information, we temporarily closed the online order system. so, now all orders will be finished on our offcial Email(baikal@baikalminer.com).

In order to speed up our response, please help us to contact the right personal for asking questions:
-all questions before placing order, like shipment, pre-order, etc, please contact our Skype: baikalminer  (no other letter and characters on our account name)
https://i.imgur.com/9sLTSbU.png

-If all you questions has been answered, then directly start a new email with below information to our official email.
Please write with below frame:
1) Purchase quantity. (eg: Quad-Cube * 4)
2) Payment method. (bank transfer/BTC)
3) Detailed shipping address with phone.

Sorry again about the delay of response, please be sure, we are trying our best to get back to you.

best regards.
Baikal Team.

website, skype, QQ, email, and now bitcointalk all confirmed...
should we all still be freakin out?

All info could be stolen.. I don't know! by Pinidea may be  ;D There is nothing said about what happened and what problems they are experiencing. Maybe mail server is down and they do not have enough ppl to handle all requests, due to high demand. Or they have some conflicts inside team, I got emails from 2 different ppl from same domain... Can Baikal confirm VITCORE HOLDINGS LIMITED is their company and other bank details, so people who did wires feel confident? Install SSL certificate on the website? pay a fucking 1500$ (which I believe is less than profit from one quadcube) for a new good and comfortable website, where ppl feel safe? All this come from low competition... hope it will change and Baikal will become more customer oriented and safe!

They just answered ny email again and confirmed that my order is ok.

I dont know whats been going on. I skyped Monday and every day afterwards. Emailed to baikal and the ylee addresses, provided all the details requested, but still nothing.
They are just not accepting my request for an order.

I want to buy

Why are they taking orders like this

I'm afraid to pay

Also monday ..just got a hold of skype person...says she forwarded my email..this time...due to no reply since monday as well

we will see

needless to say...I just am  getting now 2 cubes vs 4 cubes to split with a buddy

it is officially at over a year ROI toy status imho now ...

also they must have plenty of people..the must get FOUR cubes I was told then is no longer the case according to skype person just now

so worth 1 cube to give me 2 cubes for the heck of it...but again I figure a cube is gonna be over a 1 year ROI now ..when the bigger A900 stuff
comes out this year etc etc

but at 75 watts ..it will likely eventually ROI..but not gonna bet the house on it

later

My test email to baikal@baikalminer.com didn't bounce today.  So that's something.

Yea, got hold of skype person. They couldnt find my email, so I resent while on skype... Seems my emais may have dropped into a spam folder...
Anyhow, they found it and sent me the payment info, only 1 quad though, it's something...

Can anyone who's previously ordered successfully confirm their BTC address? Pm if needed?

if i'm not mistaken, their bitcoin address changes for each purchases..

I got a quote from them for a cube.  fuckers wanted .7813  btc for a cube they said $799 plus $37 that should be about .65 btc they are asking $1010 US

How did you get a quote for a cube? Their website still says there is no inventory for the cube.

They did the same to me and my buddy. .

Also they sent us the same BTC address

13pMF7f4XjvPg2qS3McGfUAov1k1bTZZb2

yeah with the expected difficulty rise i see in X11 stuff because of them..that is not gonna happen....852 with shipping to usa for a cube
that now will likely take close to a year to ROI...I may just wait for this difficulty wave to pass and/or bigger units like the A900

this lemming at that price is gonna split off and just keep his 1 300mh mini as a toy ...sometime in the future at a lower price new
or used .if all I'm using for is fun anyway

so they may have shot themselves in the foot ...I was gonna split 4 with a buddy now we likely won't get any due to this and the
general cluster that is baikals universe

sheesh

did you guys pass? did most people pass on this?

my 300mh is getting like 7 usd a day...with the double difficulty I expect....gotta be about a year to ROI at best now

they already may be 'too small' to bother with ...again ...except as a 'toy'

I am assuming the $1010 is WITH shipping? So I am looking at $852 for the last one with shipping to USA and this at $1010...assuming with shipping
for likely making 1/2 of this 1st cube has made so far and 18.5% increase in price for half the hash ..if..my difficulty doubling is correct
($158 usd more in real dollars)

yeah probably not :( Too little ..too late..too much $$$....I have a maybe no ROI toy 300mh cube now already..
one more at the above prices and my difficulty expectations ....I can wait I guess) :(

I don't think will be that long for ROI even with incresing difficulty... maximum 150-200 days. And I think dash will rise the price as well.

Yeah I'm frustrated like you are!

We asked about bank transfer because that BTC price is a scam in itself. As you said at $850 I want ROI in half a year not in 1 year of I'm lucky you know?

Another user posted email screenshots pointing to this being a Russian scam so idk. . .

Just wondering out loud...
With the old 150M cubes, you could build-up multiple cubes using the cables and make a 2, 3, 4 or more rig under a single PI.
Likewise, you could take a quad, and run it with 3, 2 or 1 cubes.
I wonder if we can do the same with the Quad 300M. For example, split it in half and just add your own PI with a duplicate image.
That might be a way to get "singles" but still benefit from the pricepoint on the Quad over the Single.

you could be correct...I could easily be dead wrong...but I see cubes...then I see quads...and again after may 15th say when this order
ships.....at $1010 each for a cube..you have the A900's or maybe a NEW unit at say A1200 or A1800 to compensate for the rising X11
difficulty (bitmain had L3's at 250mh as an example.then later a few months came out with L3+s at same price for 2x the hash)

thus it can get wierd..esp a the cube 300mh cheaper 'toy' end of this race


So we will see :)

(by the by a disclaimer..with $15 LTC prices and such ...I'm dandy equip depreciation wise for this year of 2017.thus may color my view
for a hobby miner getting a toy.and say it streaches out to 12-14 months to ROI at 75 watts...hell I'd do that. But for me it is about
that 25% equip depreciation I can take off my profits..thus 1 300mh cube for my own basement toy...sure ....hobby....but for the
data hall stuff or how I run this as a business....2 cubes at 2020 for both is 400 bucks more then the L3+'s I got with scrypt at $15
bucks...so...er....no from a bigger miner perspective...but again ..you want to home mine again ...what the hell get 1 or 2....
some of us may be coming at this from a different angle....with equip depreciation you can take vs profits made) :)

So again..if I sound harsh sometimes....it is because of the above.....is no where near as black and white for  home miner
trying to get an asic at this point in time to play with :)

I only have a single cube, but I did break down my Giant miner into two 450 devices by adding a second OrangePi, removing the serial cable and connecting a single blade to each Pi.  I imagine that it will work the same way with the Quads--it doesn't make sense to make two different PCB boards when you can design a single board that can be using in both configurations.

I've also created a 300Mh device by combining two minis with a serial cable.  That's where I got the spare Pi to use with the Giant!

TrX

slick ....good to know ..I think most of us suspected such. Thanks.

Yea, I think I might try that with the Quad when I get it.
I know it works on the 150M cubes, but haven't had a chance to try with the 300M cubes yet.

You guys are comfortable dealing with baikal when their whole system could currently be compromised?

I could not place an order .Out of stock


I need an asic miner chip
 
I do not know the chip code

To learn the chip code you need to disassemble the cube


Who wants to help

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