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Title: Price manipulation
Post by: brawdias on May 26, 2018, 02:12:32 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: KrakenZ on May 26, 2018, 03:05:44 AM
Yeah right, bitcoin manipulation can happen. It used to happen in Mtgox. It seems that now the manipulation of bitcoin is occurring, as a result US Begin to Investigate Bitcoin Price Manipulation Case, the US Department of Justice (US) opened a criminal investigation into the possibility of market participants manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other (cryptocurrency) currencies,

The investigation includes an examination of spoofing practices, in which an investor makes an order intended to manipulate the price of an instrument, and flood the market with fake orders.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Pumapipa on May 26, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
possible because there are the presence of bigtime whales. It just sucks major cause they are actually contributing to the failure of bitcoin as currency. It all depends on fake orders, fake pumps and a lot of dumps, whales and cartels. This is not what we wanted. I hope that uS will take a good look into this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Wahyud11 on May 26, 2018, 11:56:18 AM
The US Department of Justice (DOJ) has investigated the manipulation of harha, he reportedly has launched a criminal investigation to determine whether wholesalers manipulate prices of Bitcoin, Ether and possibly other cryptocurrencies. The illicit trade tactics investigated by DOJ include spoofing and trade washes


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Kimchu kuno on May 26, 2018, 12:01:47 PM
The US Department of Justice (DOJ) has investigated the manipulation of harha, he reportedly has launched a criminal investigation to determine whether wholesalers manipulate prices of Bitcoin, Ether and possibly other cryptocurrencies. The illicit trade tactics investigated by DOJ include spoofing and trade washes

No price manipulation it's depends on the market trusted bitcoin if there's many customers buy our coins then it is high price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ismelda_ita on May 26, 2018, 12:07:06 PM
Yes, price manipulation can happen if someone has a lot of bitcoin. they call them whales. even I've heard a rumor that there is a group holding bitcoin in a very large amount, they can control the market price on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: actuealth on May 26, 2018, 12:08:23 PM
Now that Bitcoin has gone 'mainstream' all the perils of the mainstream, like price fixing, market manipulation, etc are visiting upon us. It'll take some time to adjust to this new reality, so there's space for scamsters to make a fast buck preying on gullible folk.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Baofeng on May 26, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

As far as I know, the Chinese started to last year to investigate their local exchanges about manipulations and fake volumes and 0 transaction fees. So eventually it was the start of the Chinese crackdown on crypto and we all know what happens next.

But as far as Stateside, Yes, its the first time that we heard some investigations about price manipulation or any fraudulent acts so it really affected the price of bitcoin in the last couple of days. Manipulation is really possible specially whales who have a lot of coins at their disposal. They can ever have fake buying or selling orders and once traders saw some big orders, usually panic occurs pulling or even pushing the price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: keycellko on May 26, 2018, 12:16:10 PM
Well it can happen. For those who owns a whole lot of bitcoin they can dump it all and results to bitcoin price going down. But mostly, fud is controlling bitcoin. Every news that comes out has an impact on the price. Most of the negative news affects price because people with weak hands sell out of panic. For the good news, itencojrages people to invest in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Rossy Akbar on May 26, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
It's absolutely possible to happens but I don't know exactly is that already happens, because I thought that the price is always being like this. Anyway if there are some manipulated things about the price, I hope it will be solve soon.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: swissgang on May 26, 2018, 01:03:27 PM
It is pretty possible and has happened many times in the past, even today is also happening but I don't understand how this investigation is legal because there is no strict regulatory framework like the one in the stock market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ralle14 on May 26, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
This is possible if you have a lot of money. Also there's groups called pump and dump group these people could be a group of whales who can easily manipulate the price from each exchanges. These price manipulation doesn't last very long since the price quickly changes I don't think it's a huge problem to the point it that would destroy crypto.

The US Department of Justice (DOJ) has investigated the manipulation of harha, he reportedly has launched a criminal investigation to determine whether wholesalers manipulate prices of Bitcoin, Ether and possibly other cryptocurrencies. The illicit trade tactics investigated by DOJ include spoofing and trade washes

No price manipulation it's depends on the market trusted bitcoin if there's many customers buy our coins then it is high price.
You're saying no because you haven't seen one. It already happened before you can look it up if you want to and there's no stopping them because everyone can't be stopped in having a certain amount of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: De Suga09 on May 26, 2018, 01:31:56 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

No one really knows who control bitcoin prices and I do not know how can other people manipulate it. Sometimes it is controlled by external factors such as international news pro and against bitcoin and also internal such as the number of people buying and selling it. I am nit sure if price manipulation has happened before but I think its normal and if this is a criminal act, i just hope it would stop


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: charlotte04 on May 26, 2018, 01:34:51 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yep, but only a huge group of people only can do that. So may we somehow follow their footsteps in order for us to get a hint for what will happen next.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Alkhalifi69 on May 26, 2018, 06:09:00 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
price manipulation does exist.
in the trading of bitcoin and altcoin those with the greatest coin are the rulers who can control such a price.please order as they please.
they can choose a large purchase or sale order that can attract and panic to other traders.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Harentajbaraul on May 26, 2018, 06:36:42 PM
some people agree others disagrre with this questiion


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: HunterBTC on May 26, 2018, 06:52:38 PM
That is true, but market control is more indicative of the amount of selling power or purchasing power, in addition to the cause of the decline in Bitcoin prices due to the increasing number of altcoin tokens that dominate the market and also to the buyer or token store on a considerable scale.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Stargazer on May 26, 2018, 06:55:34 PM
It is a very known and a simple matter now. Most of the crypto member knows that Every significant exchange has some big whales. And those whales make the bitcoin and other altcoin price manipulation. If I am not wrong then, I, can say those whales bought lots of bitcoin when bitcoin price was too cheap, and now they are creating some fake PUMP and DUmpm, and then they took people's money, People who haven't enough experience or knowledge about the trade and they don't know how the crypto market works.  So, whales can easily manipulate them.


Binance has some big whales, that's why binance is a very known as a heaven for Whales. Overall, My knowledge tells me that Price manipulation is not good when it is distressful.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: TianaStam on May 26, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
Manipulation is happening all the time and in the case of crypto currencies it is even more huge and aggressive than fiat price manipulation. If fiat price depends on situation inside of the country and its place in the world, in crypto community whales, who have big number of coins, fast affect the price by simple sell/buy.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: olyolali on May 26, 2018, 07:08:33 PM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bappydu on May 26, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Yes, worth manipulation will happen if somebody encompasses a heap of bitcoin. they decision them whales. even I've detected a rumor that there's a gaggle holding bitcoin terribly} very great deal, they'll manage the value on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: anitaraymonds on May 26, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
The whales can decides to crash the market by bringing a huge amount of BTC to the market. There will be dip created and they will benefit as they will reenter the market and buy at the dip price. Is this not part of price manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: felixesteban on May 26, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
As long as there are whales, manipulation is inevitable. The problem is how can be prevented such manipulations in a decentralized structure. As a result, no institution has the authority to control the market by itself. Exchanges may impose some sanctions to a certain extent, but I have no idea how useful would they be.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mikki14 on May 26, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
I think there is. They may not manipulate it directly but whales have their own way on how to dump and pump BTC's price. Poeple like them realy wants to take advantage just because they are the big players in crypto.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: CuteBaby123 on May 26, 2018, 07:31:27 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It is really possible that someone or group of people are manipulating the price of bitcoin because they wnated to get or buy bitcoin at very low price and will suddenly pump and they will gain high profits. If this manipulation will go onto investigation, I beleive it will be hard to trace those people behind this considering that we are in virtual world, without knowing the real names of those people.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: King money on May 26, 2018, 07:34:08 PM
I do not understand the price manipulation you are maximizing


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: acheampong64 on May 26, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
It's really possible, yes! That is one thing that worries the cryptocurrency market. Sometimes it might be due to a hack or it might also be the activity of people who hold a large chunk of a particular coin. Some group of people (call themselves pump and dump groups) can also manipulate the market


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Webadasz on May 26, 2018, 08:22:42 PM
some people use it in their own favor


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: GeorgiyBilyk on May 26, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?


already in the world there are many criminal cases to investigate manipulation! one of the last it was a couple of days ago in America! of course, since this market is very damp, people with large wallets use this and manipulate their durability! it is very profitable for them, now they buy at the bottoms, and after that they will sell at very high prices! everything will be fine, the main thing is not to panic!))


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Btcallans on May 26, 2018, 08:49:21 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Well, I think this is highly possible since bitcoin supply is quite low compared to demands. Then those who are holding larger share of BTC can freely affect the price by dumping larger amount  of BTC that could possibly alarm some trader to panic selling.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: superstarbtc on May 26, 2018, 09:18:02 PM
Now the US  thinks price manipulation of bitcoin is done by insiders traders of this future control financial institutions they want to regulate the institutional trading


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: andohyeb on May 26, 2018, 09:23:13 PM
If price manipulation is possible as everyone agrees here, does it mean bitcoins no more depends on the demand and supply of it? I don't think some group of people somewhere called whales can do that, yes if they can, it is only temporal.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: hadveach on May 26, 2018, 09:55:53 PM
no price manipulation, we know that whales dominate and control part of the market price, but I think today they can not manipulate because the conditions are very extreme correction.

but, the US government suspects that there are actors who manipulate the market, so they conduct investigations, and the investigation includes spoofing practices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Cult on May 26, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
I believe the market is often being manipulated, however these manipulations cannot affect the overall trend bitcoin is following. Also, there always is a chance of a black swan.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Stonetium on May 26, 2018, 10:20:53 PM
Until some sort of "global regulation" exists, this is the easiest thing to price manipulate right now


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: tunapa on May 26, 2018, 10:22:50 PM
Yeah it happens. Mostly the whales do this. They move the price down whenever they feel like and pump it at will. This really isn't good enough for bitcoin. We heard of mtgox with huge amount of bitcoin stored and moved from one place to another. This news had major dip effect on the market and bitcoin price. We hope it stops very soon.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bjmpoker001 on May 27, 2018, 06:38:26 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

i dont know, the only what i know about manipulation price of bitcoin is the whales that own a large amount of bitcoin can manipulate markets
by selling their coin in huge amount. Then they come back to buy it later if peoples start to selling their coins because panic.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BlackPanda on May 27, 2018, 06:41:54 AM
Basically that Bitcoin price will be very easy to manipulate, it is because Bitcoin price is sometimes pumped and dump by the whales.
They take advantage of the panic that happens. Yes it is commonplace to happen and manipulation is a common thing in the crypto world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bright4mech on May 27, 2018, 06:52:00 AM
The market price of coin in exchange are different from one exchange to another, base on alt-coin that is trading and demand is little high, I have been experiencing the price manipulation on exchange


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: proearner12 on May 27, 2018, 06:59:11 AM
In real circumstances trading is not a pure zero-sum game. Exchanges fees, mining, hacking attacks, hard forks and fraud make this market unpredictable by game theory models. Yes, bitcoin and entire cryptocurrencies market can be manipulated. A government, Media, and Celebrities everyone is involved in price manipulation.



Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: hualangktsld841 on May 27, 2018, 07:11:53 AM
Manipulation in the encrypted money market has been taking place. I even believe that government departments, exchanges and large consortia are involved in manipulation. They are likely to walk FUD through social media or other media platforms.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: keanne_isaac on May 27, 2018, 07:18:48 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
possible because there are the presence of bigtime whales. It just sucks major cause they are actually contributing to the failure of bitcoin as currency. It all depends on fake orders, fake pumps and a lot of dumps, whales and cartels. This is not what we wanted. I hope that uS will take a good look into this.
Price manipulation is common even in stock trading and its hard to prove for price manipulation case specially in bitcoin trading considering it traded morethan 4billion $ daily and it needs more funds to be used just to manipulate price in a day. and for mt gox dumping their hold coin this may not good for short term but for long term this is good since more and moe imvestor can hold bitcoin thst being dump by the said company


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ngamuk tok on May 27, 2018, 07:21:34 AM
I think price manipulation is part of a trade trick, big whales come and pump prices after prices soar, whales sell bitcoins and prices will fall back.
I think it would be better to see bitcoin crawling slowly than bitcoin soar and then falling, in the future bitcoin prices will be stable and everyone will be happy to use it because as you know the main purpose of making bitcoin is as a means of payment not as an investment tool.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Zahrowil Qolbi on May 27, 2018, 07:25:25 AM
that's right, I think that's because there is a large whale presence. That's the main cause they actually contribute to the failure of bitcoin as currency. This is not what we want. I hope that we will pay attention to this matter well.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Xester on May 27, 2018, 07:25:49 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation and even manipulation was even possible in the exchanges. I remember before when bitcoin was still accepted in China the big Chinese exchanges were accused of manipulating prices as well as btc volume. This could not only be possible to China but to all other exchanges as well.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Cofee.BLUE on May 27, 2018, 07:32:29 AM
Well it can happen. For those who owns a whole lot of bitcoin they can dump it all and results to bitcoin price going down. But mostly, fud is controlling bitcoin. Every news that comes out has an impact on the price. Most of the negative news affects price because people with weak hands sell out of panic. For the good news, itencojrages people to invest in bitcoin.
It's t typically normal things to happen that bitcoin will goes downward or decrease but in this situation some of us makes panic and felt afraid because they thinking that they can be suffer from losses that's why they do panic selling which is makes so much affection to Bitcoin movements. The continuous spreading false and negative news was giving problem to btc because of it some investors are already doubt in investing into it so it can made lessen adaptation to btc.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bxipp on May 27, 2018, 07:32:42 AM
Only the real big whales can manipulate the price for it to keep fall if they want it to drop. They whales with billion in the bank surely can easily manipulate the money on bitcoin. But that not sure how they can do it. Must be some specialist has do for them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Tynovten_ on May 27, 2018, 02:14:37 PM
It's a normal thing, they also want more and more profit that's their goal in manipulating the price. but still few people realize it. And nobody can ban or stop this thing.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: coinholic on May 27, 2018, 02:22:45 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Price can be manipulated by the Media and the whales. Media can manipulate the price of Bitcoin by releasing some news that can manipulate or influence the decision making of traders or users. Whales have a direct influence on the price of Bitcoin due to the fact that they can buy or sell a huge amount of Bitcoin anytime they want. Buying will increase the price and selling will do the opposite. So yeah, Bitcoin price can be manipulated.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ngelieh@ on May 27, 2018, 02:26:36 PM
in my country safe safe, perna once twice, because it is allegedly bitcoin transactions in use as a means of money laundering in use by the mafia or crime. but afterwards it is safely under control.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Maestro75 on May 27, 2018, 02:45:51 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes the news is true and that is in America. It is a good thing for that investigation to go on because of the many scams in cryptos. At least this development will encourage people to trust and invest more in cruptos.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Emmax on May 27, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes it can happen. Big player are beating the price down so as buy at cheaper rate.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: golovayv on May 27, 2018, 03:47:29 PM
Personally, I believe that large players manipulate the price to buy at a low price and sell on a high, but this is not only the case in the Cryptocurrency market but also in all other markets. The investigation of price manipulation can well affect the trust of ordinary people in the market of crypto-currencies.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: hammo on May 31, 2018, 07:09:58 PM
of course possible. but believe me in 2 years this cannot be possible anymore. with this marketcap, some rich guys do some manipulations and hurt us :(


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: GeorgiyBilyk on May 31, 2018, 07:11:22 PM
there is no regulation, no serious players! there are only big whales with big wallets! which greatly affect the decrease or growth of bitcoin, and accordingly to the growth of all other coins! every year there is less and less opportunity to regulate prices and earn big money on this! soon will be an honest game!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ais08 on May 31, 2018, 07:24:23 PM
All the markets that exist today, are whale-only games that are in control of price increases and any price reductions in all exchanges, so it's no wonder that prices in all markets are not so balanced that they are beyond logic.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jak3 on May 31, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
its like whales who was the most of the market can give orders to rest of the people in the market. Just like in old days one king has the power and the   whole market was in his control. If you have a lot of capital or coins than any other people around the world then you can easily manipulate the price by giving all the coins at cheap price or buying all the high price coins. it effects a lot in the market and can also be lead to market crash.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: funchiestz on May 31, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Manipulation is always a possibility in this market because it is not centralized and the controls are not very well received.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BelieveInBTC on May 31, 2018, 07:44:00 PM
Yes, it is possible. Cryptocurrency market is not as big as many people think. There are still many people who own hundreds of BTC. It is enough to cause the price to decrease. Other people will panic sell and that's how it works these days. Rich people want to buy Bitcoin but they can try to manipulate the market and buy it for a lower price. It is easy for them because they have a lot of money.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: laryillary on May 31, 2018, 07:54:38 PM
Manipulation of the market today is one of the main problems of the crypto-currency trade. This is due, first of all, to the lack of any regulation in this area. If there are clear rules of the game in the stock markets, then they do not work for the crypto currency market. As a result, scammers get the opportunity to act without fear of any persecution.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PsylockReborn on May 31, 2018, 08:07:12 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Even in forex manipulation already did happen. If a bunch of whales grouping up together and arriving at a common consensus that they'll gonna pump and dump btc or even altcoins in the market then it would really affect the value of crypto. This is an illegal movement since there are lots of players and investors in the crypto market.

I've once joined a discord group few months back where in the members are told to pump and dump at a certain time and it really did well for all of us who executes fast at a given time. So manipulation of prices in the market is really possible but could destroy the image of the market itself as well as pester those small fishes in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Exchge on May 31, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
yes in the year 2017 yesterday never investigated that there is manipulation about bitcoin and I also read it in https://www.sundul.com/berita-bitcoin/doj-ditetapkan-untuk-menyelidiki-manipulasi-harga-bitcoin/


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Midori_Team on May 31, 2018, 08:24:39 PM
Manipulation can be done:

- group of whales
- just few people (see the Korea guy in January) giving wrong/false information or hype the coin


Both are illegal, so it is good if someone is doing investigations.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: MrDom2 on May 31, 2018, 08:27:33 PM
https://themerkle.com/2-out-of-the-box-icos-that-will-surge-in-2018/


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Washball on May 31, 2018, 08:28:04 PM
The high volatility we experience with bitcoin is the result of price manipulation, most of the times. Whales and pump and dump groups make it a habit to pump up the PRI e and dump massively. This high volatility is one of the advantages that traders make use of and make their profits with. But that is also the reason why it's hard to use Bitcoin as currency.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ericmalik on May 31, 2018, 08:52:16 PM
Price manipulation is done by the whales who have a lot of coins and can manipulate the price by selling or buying it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: fortunecrypto on May 31, 2018, 09:24:56 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It exists since the beginning and it's not only on Bitcoin but also from other coins as well, all coins have their own whales, where they can manipulate the price for profit, they are individuals or sometimes group who pool their money to manipulate coins that they are holding.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Gintama214 on May 31, 2018, 09:50:39 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

There have been reported accidents that companies manipulate the price of bitcoin or any other coins that they are trading, it is 100% possible and it has happened before. They always do this so that they can make more money, especially they can make more future with high fees which they manipulate.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jgaspar on May 31, 2018, 10:03:46 PM
I think that the guys called the Whales are surely manipulating the bitcoin price as they want to buy it or want to sell it away.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: aryaadikariyansyahsuwarto on May 31, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
I think it's hard for bitcoin to be manipulated, if the bitcoin price is up and down, it is normal ..


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: tabas on May 31, 2018, 10:53:53 PM
It's happening and not only in crypto market. In normal economy, there are people who are abusing the law of supply and demand. Hoarding goods, during the time of crisis that makes the price higher.
And likewise in crypto market, they are doing something to push the price back to a lower one which can only be done by manipulators, whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Bendoo on May 31, 2018, 10:57:25 PM
Some people/corporation could manipulate the bitcoin price like you could manipulate the price of a 20k$ market cap crypto-currency !  ;)


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Baofeng on May 31, 2018, 11:21:07 PM
Manipulation of the market today is one of the main problems of the crypto-currency trade. This is due, first of all, to the lack of any regulation in this area. If there are clear rules of the game in the stock markets, then they do not work for the crypto currency market. As a result, scammers get the opportunity to act without fear of any persecution.


As much as we hate it, because its a fraudulent act, we can't really stop it from happening because crypto is decentrallzed. Stock markets have some authority to look at such cases and those involved can be punished, but in our market, manipulation can be done by big whales.

However, I don't think that its the main reason why the market is really going down. If might be one of the many reasons, but overtime when the market bounce back again, I don't think that manipulators can control the market with many getting on board, it will be difficult for them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ladydark on May 31, 2018, 11:28:03 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Manipulation happened to a very high extent when Chinese dominated the market and they just easily pumped and dumped bitcoin and the whole world followed it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: biboy on May 31, 2018, 11:31:34 PM
Manipulation of the market today is one of the main problems of the crypto-currency trade. This is due, first of all, to the lack of any regulation in this area. If there are clear rules of the game in the stock markets, then they do not work for the crypto currency market. As a result, scammers get the opportunity to act without fear of any persecution.


As much as we hate it, because its a fraudulent act, we can't really stop it from happening because crypto is decentrallzed. Stock markets have some authority to look at such cases and those involved can be punished, but in our market, manipulation can be done by big whales.

However, I don't think that its the main reason why the market is really going down. If might be one of the many reasons, but overtime when the market bounce back again, I don't think that manipulators can control the market with many getting on board, it will be difficult for them.
Well a lot of reason why the market is falling down and sometimes we cannot control the other reason for it, so for me we just need to stay calm when market is falling down, and we just need to spread this opportunity to all people so the demand will continue to increase.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Raggie on June 01, 2018, 07:12:23 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

what do you mean criminal price manipulating ? The one who can manipulate price of bitcoin are the whales.
for example if i have many bitcoins on my wallet, i can dump my coin at anytime and damaging the price in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: nagobinga on June 01, 2018, 07:23:13 AM
whether it can be all this to manipulate the price ,,, which I know when we get the price coin the possibility of a direct decrease and do not know when the price increase it, could be a month later possibilities.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Beroximos on June 01, 2018, 07:33:58 AM
Yes, manipulation is possible and that is what is currently happen by big players.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mojacho on June 01, 2018, 07:41:42 AM
What is the purpose of current manipulation then? If manipulators want to make it cheap so to buy more, and then start a bull run, I'm totally OK with it))


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Larster on June 01, 2018, 07:45:39 AM
Since it is theoretically possible - I do believe, that price manipulation is happening in a larger or smaller scale. But I think, there are some circumstances that have to be naturally to be present for the manipulation to have maximum effect.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: rudox on June 01, 2018, 07:50:19 AM
Price manipulation can happen in bitcoin market. This concept is carried out by the whales subtly. If any Whale wants to depreciate the value of bitcoin he will simply release enough bitcoin in his possession into the market once there is enough quantity the price will be affected and goes down. He will then sell off and re enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price making more profit. Simply that is how manipulation of price happens.  


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gajebo on June 01, 2018, 07:57:18 AM
Yes, price manipulation can happen if someone has a lot of bitcoin. they call them whales. even I've heard a rumor that there is a group holding bitcoin in a very large amount, they can control the market price on bitcoin.
yes, price manipulation can be done by whales with lots of bitcoin and money, and this is not the case now bitcoin price manipulation has occurred when bitcoin prices are still low, with the presence of groups holding bitcoin in large quantities they can certainly control the bitcoin market price easily.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: brickafterbrickwalldpt on June 01, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
Of course it has happened a lot of times. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a great place to earn a lot of money if you know how to trade. People who have a lot of money can try to manipulate the market by selling lots of crypto. Many crypto traders are newbies and they will sell their BTC right after the dump starts which will cause the price to lower even more. That's why we have so many corrections.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Gladz29 on June 01, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
When bitcoin started no one can manipulate na price. Because its volatile, no person who handle the bitcoin. So before you enter in bitcoin world you must know the risk. Because no one can predict the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: TRAID on June 01, 2018, 08:31:26 AM
Whales manipulating prices, exchanges manipulating volume...this is all standard stuff. The problem is..this stuff is very hard to notice and culprits usually get away with it. Partly, it's our fault. Whales can't manipulate prices if we all just hodl and don't succumb to their dirty tactics...this is a combat between whales and ordinary investors like us. If we are smarter than them and just hodl while they're setting up fake walls, the market would look a whole lot different and more stable.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Denies on June 01, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think price manipulation is not as easy as you say, however bitcoin prices are very high and require big whales simultaneously do it. but that is difficult in the current situation when the market tends to be unstable.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: signup01 on June 01, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
if it is manipulated I think bitcoin is long over but until now still very big investor interest in investing with bitcoin


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jgaspar on June 01, 2018, 11:33:30 AM
Worls news, traders - whales, many things going on in a world at this time, affecting drasticaly, be ready everyday to see the jumps


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ambisyon on June 01, 2018, 11:47:13 AM
I personally believe that somehow manipulation of price value of bitcoin could be possible since these people had enough btc and this could make an impact in the crypto market. These people known as the whale investors which could be responsible for any bear market in the crypto currency which contributes to the down trend movement of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gadimbrut on June 01, 2018, 11:59:40 AM
is it possible that bitcoin prices can be manipulated? I think that is difficult to do, I still believe that bitcoin prices will rise again, if bitcoin price is in manupulation in my opinion it is a crime


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: tunapa on June 01, 2018, 12:11:43 PM
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency can be manipulated. And this obvious in this present time where the market is undergoing massive dip. There is an investigation been carried out by the US Department of Justice (DOJ) to checkmate the manipulation of bitcoin, and possibly other cryptocurrencies. This investigation aims to check for  spoofing and trade washes


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: princehandsome on June 01, 2018, 12:22:12 PM
is it possible that bitcoin prices can be manipulated? I think that is difficult to do, I still believe that bitcoin prices will rise again, if bitcoin price is in manupulation in my opinion it is a crime
I also do not believe that the price of Bitcoin can be manipulated and that it is impossible to do. of course the price of Bitcoin will rebound again and the trading still keep some of their coins to immediately sell it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: meanwords on June 01, 2018, 12:28:46 PM
Of course it can happen. Cryptocurrency is a volatile market with minimal regulation around the world. Investors specially the whales are seeing this as a quick buck for them. I also think that the media is partnered with some of the whales which really affects the price with their bias news for newbies to believe with. It's really bad that it's happening though because it really hurts the growth of price and the reputation of Bitcoin being labeled as a pyramid scam or other types of things. I don't think they will be able to stop this manipulations in the near future though.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kuto on June 01, 2018, 12:31:01 PM
is it possible that bitcoin prices can be manipulated? I think that is difficult to do, I still believe that bitcoin prices will rise again, if bitcoin price is in manupulation in my opinion it is a crime


I believe that price manipulation is present in the market. Even if the price is manipulated by some big whales in the market people are willing to invest because of the profit we gain upon investing. People must learn to hold if manipulation starts to move again during the price ups and downs.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PX-Z on June 01, 2018, 03:06:26 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes it could be possible, bitcoin price can be manipulated by some investors that are holding a huge amount of bitcoins. Specially when they buy and sell a huge amount of bitcoin, which will certainly increase and decrease of its price in just a few moments.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: carlisle1 on June 01, 2018, 03:21:16 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
di hope this will result to positivity,and hoping there will really a power the authority to investigate this manipulation since cryptp is anonymous and there will be a hard task to pinpoint every individual or company that serving as manipulator in cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: addeqt on June 01, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
That is possible, especially for those trading platforms that have fewer members and have a huge capital. Imagine, if there a just thousand of accounts trading with an average of one bitcoin is traded, then suddenly a mysterious account has created a buy order for about a thousand of bitcoins. It could then block the price to go down or to block the price to go up. There is also some manipulation in relation to the teather, once there are a lot of teather created the price of bitcoin also goes up. Even though these activities are possible, I never thought that most of the platform did that way.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: febryza on June 01, 2018, 03:26:28 PM
I think that is good chance when an investor try to manipulate the price, they buy bitcoin with really high price before doing a dump action. But for now, i think it is really hard to manipulate the bitcoin price because the price is really high than 3 years ago.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Nunoluck on June 01, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
The price of bitcoin on each exchanges site is different. Low trading volume makes people easier to influence the price of bitcoin there. But if you talk about criminal then I have no answer about it, I only trade bitcoin in big exchange site that thrusted.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: abonti on June 01, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
I think it is really hard to manipulate the bitcoin price, because the price really high .the market people are willing to invest because of the profit we gain upon investing.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: markleal on June 01, 2018, 04:52:07 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Hi there brawdias! I think you are late to the news. Those issues roses several years ago, but just recently there are subpoena that are given to those trading company who did not volunteer their system for an audit. Price manipulation could generate millions of dollar once properly executed, and what more is that they could even be performed by the trading platform itself. If an ordinary user could use a bot to trade for them, what for a trading platform that could create a bot to manipulate price. 


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: btc-facebook on June 01, 2018, 04:55:20 PM
Let's think logic and let's see who own the biggest amount of bitcoin address ?

Let say if top 5 try to sell out their bitcoin, imagine how drastically bitcoin value will change !
Even whale trader also able to move bitcoin value a little bit !


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Brenok on June 01, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Manipulation of the price in the crypto currency and other economic instruments has always been and will be! This is primarily a way of earning for "experienced players"


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: 1goldhunter001980 on June 01, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I heard already about the price manipulation of bitcoin and i believe its true because of its huge dropping which is not a normal fluctuation of a crypto.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: makolz26 on June 01, 2018, 05:33:47 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Manipulation of the price in the crypto currency and other economic instruments has always been and will be! This is primarily a way of earning for "experienced players"
That is why we need to have at least basic knowledge in studying the market so we would know the movement of the whales what they are doing in the market so for us that are just ordinary would know how we are going to make our next move if we will hold it for a while or sell it or to buy more.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: fbastage on June 02, 2018, 08:35:16 PM
Of course, the manipulation takes place on the part of the big players. And you thought bitcoin grew so quickly thanks to ordinary people? Of course not, the coarse players have made sure that everyone wants to buy bitcoin!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: MISERICORDAE PROJECT on June 02, 2018, 08:56:57 PM
Price manipulation is a reality, and in part the root cause of extraordinarily very high volatility. Some say it is inevitable but there can be some checkmates and moderation to make the ecosystem healthier.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bitcoinbot on June 02, 2018, 11:02:58 PM
Of course, the manipulation takes place on the part of the big players. And you thought bitcoin grew so quickly thanks to ordinary people? Of course not, the coarse players have made sure that everyone wants to buy bitcoin!
Totally agree with you! Big players are always one step ahead, o learn to think like a big player is a simple story. How correctly large players go against the market and change the trend, act also at the signals!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Marma Kalari on June 02, 2018, 11:19:14 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
When stock exchange price can be manipulated why not the price where there is no regulation, people will take advantage of the new market situation and unless there is a strict policy regarding the price manipulation people will do that and most of the time that is happening in this market where the price shoots in both direction.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lalapo08 on June 02, 2018, 11:20:01 PM
Yes, It is possible to manipulate the bitcoin price. But if I was asked if it had happened before then I have never seen it. But it's likely to happen. In my opinion it is not possible for people who do price manipulation will tell it in public? If he tells it then there will be many people who hate him and he could be kicked from bitcoin world. This price manipulation can be done by giant bitcoin owners or some people who are members of the cooperation. They will do the buying and selling of the market but it is actually part of their strategy to earn profits doubled.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: onemoretime8520 on June 02, 2018, 11:21:11 PM
the overall marketplace is based on manipulation and speculation. As you can see even a slightest news which are not even true but just assumptions have an impact on price of coins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: chistiy on June 04, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I guess, that the whales make the market, so the manipulation is inevitable. They may not manipulate it directly but whales have their own way on how to dump and pump BTC's price. If this manipulation will go onto investigation, I beleive it will be hard to trace those people behind this considering that we are in virtual world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: virendarnagpal on June 04, 2018, 04:30:53 PM
I think you want to ask about speculation.  Yes it is reality of the market.  Not only in bitcoin and crypto coins ; in markets like commodity trading/ share market; speculators are active at all the places. 
They are big manipulators.  They drive the prices to the direction they want at that particular time.  The prices dance at their directions in 99% circumstances.  They are big cheaters ready to loot the money from small investors.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mc.craigsvictor on June 04, 2018, 04:32:11 PM
Yes price manipulation always happen in the market . behind the price manipulation pump and dump fake and scam news directly involved also fake order all these factors are directly affects the  market price .


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: RawDog on June 04, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
Yes price manipulation always happen in the market .

Even in Bitcoin, Getting fucked by 'the man' is just part of life.  The whales are going to end up with all your money.  It's just not worth it.  The whole thing is rigged - and then you lose all your money.  Don't believe the hype!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: policeoo on June 04, 2018, 05:02:52 PM


Everything is possible. There is no doubt that manipulation exists. Every market has existing manipulations, so Bitcoin as well. We saw the scam interviews, we saw the manipulations, fake dumps. There is no doubt today that a few people with a large number of Bitcoins are manipulating the whole market. It is unfair, but it will always exist today and in the future.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: FIQRIE SEPTYAN 13 on June 04, 2018, 05:11:13 PM
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Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: StuartJonson on June 04, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
It is true, it can be possible.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: nyerok on June 04, 2018, 08:17:48 PM
for price manipulation it seems like it could happen, but it has a very high risk, better never to manipulate the price. just buy the price as it is, the price manipulation will be terrible.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Baraban66 on June 07, 2018, 05:59:41 PM
The owners of large accounts of bitcoins have the ability to manipulate the market. They manipulate the market, and we can watch the movement of funds on large accounts and the change in the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Vancomputer on June 07, 2018, 11:41:03 PM
Sorry for the price, as far as I know, it depends on the market is quite large, what else? I'm new to hihihi


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Zach707 on June 07, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
We may hate to admit it but yes, it is true that price manipulation really occurs in bitcoin and any other cryptocurrencies. Whales that have huge amount of capital can really run the show if they want at any time. They have connection and influence to the media that anytime they want bitcoin's price to drop they just release negative news to create FUD.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bololord on June 07, 2018, 11:49:14 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
As far as I know those big players can manipulate the price of bitcoin after bitcoin soars those big players will dump their bitcoins and they will make negative news about bitcoin so it gives FUD to the other users and after the panic selling they used the chance to buy again and this became a cycle.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: theyRmose on June 08, 2018, 12:12:28 AM
Yes, it can happen. Some big guys come by buying large amounts of bitcoin, HODL, selling at high prices, then leaving. When whales come the price will jump, and this is what attracts beginner investors to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Arlibtchunt2018 on June 08, 2018, 12:51:50 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes, I think it may occur. Base on the price trend starting January it has an identical trend which is so controversial. If you observe this someone is dropping the price down so that panic time will happen.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jshealth on June 08, 2018, 01:05:58 AM
I think it must be better called as cartel formation in bitcoins which works to move prices of bitcoins for profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: LinkinPrak on June 08, 2018, 01:24:58 AM
Indeed, Manipulation is very likely in the world of crypto currencies that have the potential for manipulation. Price manipulation is often done by someone or a group of people in order for them to benefit greatly by playing an intelligent strategy to make the supply and demand in the market happen naturally. Actually, they play supply and demand in the market. They do this strategy with a planned. This happens like a chain. They will drop the price again when they have achieved what they want.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dimid on June 08, 2018, 03:28:12 AM
An example of manipulation in the bitcoin market could be seen the day before yesterday. It was bought out by one order on the market for about a thousand bitcoins and the price went up by 7700, then this one was also merged into the market, but the price remained at the level of 7650-7700.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: blue_id69 on June 10, 2018, 05:14:46 PM
Bitcoin prices can be manipulated in the sense that they are not in the fox ranges from 150 million to 170 million, but the manipulation here sets the price. We all know the price of bitcoin depends on supply and demand, the more people who want to buy the higher the price, and vice versa. Now that a strong question whether a billionaire world do it? no, so bad news is needed to create panic and good news to attract buyers.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Biscutard on June 10, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Could you provide a link or information where they really investigate such criminals for manipulating the price of bitcoin? I don't think you or they can just call them as criminals when manipulating prices? Price manipulation is always there when you are on the top of all, that's why most of the users are trading with cautions and not just those weak-handed traders.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: maloibtc on June 10, 2018, 05:23:45 PM
At the end of October bitcoin gold was put on the market. Initially, around the currency flared unthinkable excitement. However, gradually it fades and you need to think carefully before deciding whether to buy bitcoin gold. Experts are sure that, as well as in bitcoin cache, this currency has a fairly high potential


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: longyenthanh on June 10, 2018, 05:30:27 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I think that it is only possible when someone has a big amount of bitcoin and they are selling in moment that they think it is able to just make price go down, but only in this case it is possible to manipulate price for me.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cryptoflyer on June 10, 2018, 05:33:13 PM
Obviously, the market is being manipulated. The main exchanges can largely influence Bitcoin futures spot price cause they are actually the reference for futures contracts. The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) just accused Coinbase, Kraken and Bitstamp of big market manipulation. That's one of the reason of today's flash crash.

Source:
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/06/10/what-caused-a-flash-crypto-crash-to-wipe-15-billion-out-in-just-two-hours/
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/06/09/cftc-demands-data-from-exchanges-related-to-bitcoin-price-manipulation-investigation/



Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sepeda karat on June 10, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
price manipulation can occur if a person has many bitcoins. they call them whales. In fact I've heard rumors that there are groups that hold very large amounts of bitcoin, they can control the market price on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: btcblockchain on June 10, 2018, 07:51:09 PM
actually, the price manipulation doubt many have and mainly these bitcoin futures are doing many feel now the truth will come out soon


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: rainezerr401 on June 10, 2018, 07:57:29 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

There is no criminal price manipulation, the only way for the price of bitcoins to be manipulated is through creating fud or people are going to create fake news in order to reduce the number of investors in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: EnricoGomez on June 11, 2018, 11:12:27 AM
Yes, manipulating bitcoin is very possible - though and unless if you have a sufficiently big amount of bitcoin in store. It is advantageous for the individual or group, who does not want a favorable price when you need them. If you have the power and that power gets you profit, why not right?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: drm on June 11, 2018, 11:29:53 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Basically, if you really have a big volume of coin you might affect the price of the coin in the market. I believe that it is not manipulation but jist a short term effect on the coin's value. Surely in no time tge price will eventually recover and continue to go on it's way. Changes might happen but no really haa the full control over it.

Agreed, someone with a big stack could just be selling and influence the market, but does not mean he is trying to manipulate the price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ewox on June 11, 2018, 11:44:56 AM
Price manipulation is actually very possible especially in the world of cryptocurrencies because these so called whales can push and pull the prices in the market. Investors that have hodled a portion of the circulating coins in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Grayy on June 11, 2018, 11:54:28 PM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Capt00 on June 12, 2018, 01:23:26 AM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.
Yet, we are aware of that and we can't stop them since they have power to take such action. Crypto investment is somewhat similar to local ,form of investment, still manipulation is present. That's why we just accept these cause that is really we are.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Bugsbey on June 12, 2018, 01:28:56 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I think price manipulation for bitcoin is possible. Those big investors can do it since they have the power to store large amount of bitcoin in their hands and at the same time release them the time they wanted. As a result it can affect the market's supply and demand.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: entrepmind23 on June 12, 2018, 01:56:13 AM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.

The first one you are talking about is the shake out which is usually occurring in a support and they will further push the prices down so that the traders who put stop losses below the support would be liquidated and then it will give them more liquidity so that they can buy more bitcoin at a lower price. This is just one of the price manipulation strategy but there are various type of it in the market. One of the most famous is the pump and dump wherein whales or even a group of traders would buy a coin simultaneously to make the price higher and attract more people to buy it and when the price is higher, they would sell their position and those who bought at the top would be left behind.

You can take a look at this video explaining the different types of price manipulation in the market and further understand their purpose and how they've done it. It will help you as well to detect those manipulation so that you can avoid it or take advantage from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8ZM8GkThg



Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PIR on June 12, 2018, 02:11:20 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yeah, I think its possible because people also are involve, they can pump or dump the price of bitcoin like big whales investor. If many people use bitcoin i think manipulation of bitcoin are minimize, although im not sure if this happen. last year the bitcoin is pump, and now the bitcoin is low,, i think investors manipulate the price of bitcoin. I think this is reality in bitcoin market, if you are businessman you need profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 12, 2018, 02:24:44 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Price manipulation is everywhere in business except there is a strict check to prevent or reduce it. Otherwise, we will continue to see this. It's not a new development and it isn't with cryptocurrency alone. What about the Forex market where brokers make themselves market markers or the whales playing the industry like elephants. Anyway, let's just keep our fingers crossed and see what comes out of that investigation as a way to strengthening this budding industry.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Probinus on June 12, 2018, 07:45:01 AM
Can price manipulation be possible? Ain't what you're thinking is a pump and dump scheme? In order for those who bought cheap stocks to sell high, they trick investors into saying things that'd arouse their mind buying their stocks at a high price. I think can be also a form of price manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bitcub on June 12, 2018, 08:03:11 AM
Manipulation happens everytime price chart hits the resistance or support line. Dont be dismayed if there are so many price manipulation. This thing is also common in Forex and stockmarket. I know the whales will surely push Bitcoin price on its dip. So I decided to sell my holdings and hedge it to USD. Will rebuy all once BTC hits $4k or $3k.

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on June 13, 2018, 01:42:48 PM
False information, it can't be manipulation by some person, a never heard before about that things, only trande can be cause of up or down


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: squog on June 13, 2018, 01:46:42 PM
I'm pretty sure whales have done this. I mean buying a whole lot of crypto currency in one go then jisy selling it all off so to decrease the market value has been happening all around. But it's a good thing thay someone is actually cracking this down. I really want to invest more on crypto currency but never when big shots actually bullies small investors.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: rabs on June 13, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation is paet of market,There are many reasons behind the price fluctuations,One of major reason there is group of whale who inject or withdraw inveatment which effect the market and results fluctuations.So if situation take you in crash need to show patience and hold till find best moment where maximize the profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Remedios19 on June 13, 2018, 02:22:32 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes, this is happen specially for those large holder of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: MGBloomz on June 13, 2018, 02:29:59 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
This could be possible as those the early adopters of this bitcoin had already enough quantity of coins that can manipulate the market price. Although it's normal in every business that some will take advantage on the situation. This is all about business.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ch01ce0N3 on June 14, 2018, 07:04:17 AM
I think it could happen, even if its possibilities are very thin. However, bad people, criminals, they will work hard to commit crimes and manipulate.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: trickyriky on June 14, 2018, 07:14:57 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Those people that have concentrated almost all Bitcoins in their hands can easily manipulate the price of the cryptocurrency. They affect the market situation a lot.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: robbietobby on June 14, 2018, 07:15:33 AM
That is constantly happening in all situation I guess especially for large stakeholders. There are price manipulation in every percentage of each involved at staking. And this should pose proper implementation whether if it was a crime or not in all fairness.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: LKingLion on June 14, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
There are we call whales that have the capacity to control and manipulate the price. They can do whatever they should do to have a decent profit than any other. They gonna want profit and not lose. The price manipulation can be point out to manipulator of crypto price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dancobit on June 14, 2018, 08:25:12 AM
Yes, it is like that, the examination of spoofing practices, in which an investor makes clear orders to manipulate drug prices, and flood the market with fake orders, reports citing people who know about it on Thursday.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: tuikindu01 on June 14, 2018, 08:27:43 AM
I think bitcoin manipulation could happen. So investigating the manipulation of bitcoin is a long-term boon for us retail investors.

I believe there will be a very big increase after this sharp drop.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Nick Abimanyu on June 14, 2018, 09:08:01 AM
You are right OP this has happened before. Price manipulation can happen anytime, today, tomorrow, or the day after. The point is unpredictable, maybe only an insider who knows about this incident perfectly, meaning colonies (big whales).

I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

In this case I can only hope that an investigation by the US Department of Justice can find market participants who have manipulated the price of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: speem28 on June 14, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Anything that can make the market change in an instant in terms of prices can be considered as manipulation. Usually, whales can easily do these because they have the power and money to do so. Whenever they will see the market turning green and they can see a profit if they sold their huge amount of bitcoin, they will see it as a good opportunity to sell and then buy later on when the price is so low then wait again for the perfect time to sell.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 14, 2018, 09:48:26 AM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin

Bitcoin price manipulation is all over the treed, posted by Media and other news agency, they are now investigating the said price manipulation on Bitcoin price. Now, what will we do with this price manipulation on Bitcoin? But, what i can see on this issue, is more on the attempt by the government to Regulate the Bitcoin Digital Transaction or Crypto currency transaction, not to mention the other issue on Banned and Scammer. Bottom line, Bitcoin acceptance and popularity is unstoppable.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: endut15 on June 14, 2018, 10:10:17 AM
Price manipulation is actually very possible especially in the world of cryptocurrencies because these so called whales can push and pull the prices in the market. Investors that have hodled a portion of the circulating coins in the market.
most likely indeed, because in this world nothing is impossible. let alone the hackers hanging around, sometimes this can be exploited by hackers to seek profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: iram1011 on June 14, 2018, 10:11:17 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Bitcoin is being manipulated through various ways.
You must have heard that Tether (USDT) is back in news. Almost 200 million new Tether were printed and are ready to come in market. Tether has long history of manipulating the Bitcoin price and bringing an artificial pump and many a times Bitfinex has been criticized for the same. There are many reports backing this claim that Tether are strategically being printed during a downtrend to bring BTC back in uptrend.

The major exchanges are the biggest manipulators. But they can't let Bitcoin suffer a lot to bring a panic in market because BTC is what supports them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Oasisman on June 14, 2018, 10:38:36 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Anything that can make the market change in an instant in terms of prices can be considered as manipulation. Usually, whales can easily do these because they have the power and money to do so. Whenever they will see the market turning green and they can see a profit if they sold their huge amount of bitcoin, they will see it as a good opportunity to sell and then buy later on when the price is so low then wait again for the perfect time to sell.

Yeah, thats the safest word to say "considered". Because everytime bitcoin falls, its either there's a manipulative moves that the big players are doing or certain exchangers huge bitcoin sold out, which is also under investigation today due to price manipulation probability.
I dont know if the news was true or it just another market trick, average joe's in crypto space like us doesnt really have a definite idea whats going on with the market. We're just riding with the big players as well as they are riding with us.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sheryl26 on June 14, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I also doubt if there is really no one manipulating the bitcoins price because the bitcoins price are not yet rising eveb if there are a lot of people that are positive in it. But maybe I just still do not see all of the people's activities in cryptocurrency maybe the majority of them still selling that is why the price is still stable in that price range. But I am still hoping that the bitcoins is purely on us i hope there is no one manipulating the price. If that is so I knew that the bitcoins will rise very soon


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gunhell16 on June 14, 2018, 12:01:48 PM
aren't this a regular in our life?
even in FIAT manipulation are all over the world!
monopoly, if you are a big person a whale, nothing is impossible for that.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: adzino on June 14, 2018, 02:05:34 PM
Why would you think that price manipulation is not possible? Since its a free market, there are higher chances of price manipulation. When a group of whales joins together to manipulate the market, we can't actually help much unless we are able to realize that the price is being manipulated and take proper steps to not let the manipulators take advantage off it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dodoymabs on June 14, 2018, 02:24:27 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It can be possible because cryptocurrencies is a decentralized system which means government can't do nothing about its value. Only those so-called big whales who are manipulating its price and this is based from what I read from the news. But until now, no one really prove this and everything still is under speculations.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Morgann on June 14, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes there are governments today that are investigating the price manipulation of cryptocurrency and it was possible for the hackers to manipulate the market price if they are really good in programming because all of the sites are made by web developers.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on June 14, 2018, 03:09:04 PM
Bitcoin is decentralized market so no one have the control of it but the people who are holding the larger part of the crypto currencies can manipulate it by changing the demand and supply.And also actually it happened before and happening right now too and the people who can manipulate the market is called whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: etron on June 14, 2018, 03:43:42 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
it's really what you say because it's part of the whale game that will make a profit of its own and we should not get caught up in their game.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lostchickens102 on June 14, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
If this has happened before, why didn't they conducted an investigation immediately to stop manipulators from doing it. Many small investors are really sacrificed by their bad intentions. Why couldn't they be contented? Its really hard for small investors to lose to big greedy whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: LuciferEveningStar on June 14, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

They should not investigate about the manipulation over bitcoins because everyone is interested on cryptocurrency and they will make different ways in order to manipulate the price like hacking the system, government should not care about that since they are not related to cryptocurrency because the market of cryptocurrency does not have tax.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: uptown04 on June 14, 2018, 04:34:17 PM
it happens all the time and the price manipulation can mean pump and dump which we see clearly in anywhere in social media where you pay fees to them, .


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: t2yax on June 14, 2018, 04:40:52 PM
We cannot say that there is a price manipulation. We know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: $anounimus$ on June 14, 2018, 04:59:23 PM
it seems the price is very difficult to be manipulated because those who have bitcoin very much and to be able to manipulate the price in the market is the news circulating in some media, just imagine if there is good news prices will rise and when there is bad news would cost the price down to like this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: MrAntonius on June 14, 2018, 05:08:38 PM
Unfortunately, friends, there is manipulation in the bitcoin market. It is very difficult to get away from this, even it is probably impossible, until then, it is time to volatility will not be so strong. When long-term bitcoin holders appear on the market. Now the exchanges show the worst options for storing crypto currency. When this issue is resolved and there will be stability, then the price will be high.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sclmte on June 15, 2018, 04:06:20 AM
it happens all the time and the price manipulation can mean pump and dump which we see clearly in anywhere in social media where you pay fees to them, .
We can't just put all our blame into the people doing such actions that causes price fluctuations because in the first place, this is not the only reason having market change.  FUDs also take some effect into it,  but if we don't even play their game,  they actually won't succeed. But sadly some of us just got tempted and full of worries when they saw market turning into red and then easily throw their coins in cheap.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: realaccountakira on June 15, 2018, 04:38:44 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

To be completely transparent, the answer should be a resounding, Yes.

If you do enough research, you will see that bitcoin is an emerging technology that has greatly benefitted those early investors. Some of whom have thousands and thousands of bitcoin. Now let your imagine run free for awhile and imagine you had 10,000 bitcoin. That would make a huge impact on exchange trading buy and sell orders right? Now imagine yourself as a savvy economist day trader statistician, don't you think you would have some ideas on how to make calculated trades that would leverage your portfolio size to earn profits?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Tomborneque_1102 on June 15, 2018, 06:05:40 AM
I always thought that there's someone behind Bitcoin who manipulate or controls things. we may think it's decentralized but at the back of our minds we always think, who are those people. sooner or later we will all find out who are those people behind this manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Elkafi on June 15, 2018, 06:15:24 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think there is no price manipulation, it depends on the trusted bitcoin market if there are many customers who buy our coins, then the price is expensive.
That's my opinion.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: techbill on June 15, 2018, 06:19:26 AM
This would be a good use of the government. Actually working for the people. Though of course I prefer them to stay away. But this is good.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Tungsten-1 on June 15, 2018, 06:20:57 AM
I think bitcoin manipulation could happen. So investigating the manipulation of bitcoin is a long-term boon for us retail investors.

I believe there will be a very big increase after this sharp drop.
Huge investments and more promotions will manipulate the market and it is more up to large whales. Actually if market has big investments then the market will follow the increase trend and hence the market will be manipulated. Do not look at the market low price these days and simply invest in this market with huge amount so the price manipulates and grows.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: longskie0327 on June 15, 2018, 06:43:15 AM
I guess it true some people are behind those up and down price, those who are behind it and expert on this field can know exactly what is happening every value of money or token in the market step of the way, they know every single details that may affect its value, yest possible to manipulate the v


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 15, 2018, 08:28:39 AM
This is normal in the cryptocurrency space because of the decentralized feature and because of that it means that there is no i charge in order to control and to minimize the manipulation that is going on in the market so what we can do is really observe and learn the pattern of the manipulation and ride with it when we already get used to it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kabelpeggek on June 15, 2018, 09:02:31 AM
Price manipulation can happen in bitcoin market. This concept is carried out by the whales subtly. If any Whale wants to depreciate the value of bitcoin he will simply release enough bitcoin in his possession into the market once there is enough quantity the price will be affected and goes down. He will then sell off and re enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price making more profit. Simply that is how manipulation of price happens. 


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: satriagedhe on June 15, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
for me, in theory bitcoin manipulation is possible to do , but in the real fact its hard to do because bitcoin price is so expansive and need many reach people to coordinate that all

but everything is possible on this world


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: GDragon on June 15, 2018, 01:25:33 PM
Yea of course mate, if you have huge amount of bitcoin that can move it for your own purposes and it's called manipulation. They also call the person like this as Whale. Just like a big thing like as a big holder.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: fantasticX5 on June 15, 2018, 01:45:14 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Price manipulation is possible as what we call them whales on this crypto market. They are watching every situation to take advantage on their many coins to dumps and buy back when the price goes lower than their selling price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: justdimin on June 15, 2018, 05:47:18 PM
This would be a good use of the government. Actually working for the people. Though of course I prefer them to stay away. But this is good.
In terms of volatility right ? We can sure say it is good since at least there is a lot to benefit from it, but for the good of the market and maturity of the market, it is not good one bit. So many times, there would be a pattern that most manipulators will purposely bring up just to make traders hop in but in reality, all they plan is to screw them over and in a way even activate stop losses in their favor which to me is not a good thing. The market does not move based on usage or real life usage, but based on how some set of people who have upper hand just want it to move, which is really not good.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: huige007 on June 15, 2018, 08:32:50 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

To be completely transparent, the answer should be a resounding, Yes.

If you do enough research, you will see that bitcoin is an emerging technology that has greatly benefitted those early investors. Some of whom have thousands and thousands of bitcoin. Now let your imagine run free for awhile and imagine you had 10,000 bitcoin. That would make a huge impact on exchange trading buy and sell orders right? Now imagine yourself as a savvy economist day trader statistician, don't you think you would have some ideas on how to make calculated trades that would leverage your portfolio size to earn profits?

The price manipulation can be thought of as a monopoly in the crypto market that means the entry of a very big investment that can influence the crypto market. By this I mean to say the more shares a person hold in the market, the more ability he would have to fluctuate the prices by buying or selling. There are many price manipulators in the crypto market holding more than 1000 of Bitcoin and ETH.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Findingnemo on June 15, 2018, 08:37:16 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

To be completely transparent, the answer should be a resounding, Yes.

If you do enough research, you will see that bitcoin is an emerging technology that has greatly benefitted those early investors. Some of whom have thousands and thousands of bitcoin. Now let your imagine run free for awhile and imagine you had 10,000 bitcoin. That would make a huge impact on exchange trading buy and sell orders right? Now imagine yourself as a savvy economist day trader statistician, don't you think you would have some ideas on how to make calculated trades that would leverage your portfolio size to earn profits?



When ever you decide it is the right thing then it is not going to be right in all time some of their thoughts were not work at all time it is not our defects it is the fact we don’t do anything against this but if you had some intelligence with patient then All are in our hands this is my thought about this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Realistmoon on June 15, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
Price manipulation is actually very possible especially in the world of cryptocurrencies because these so called whales can push and pull the prices in the market. Investors that have hodled a portion of the circulating coins in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: viyumztf on June 15, 2018, 08:54:41 PM
Price manipulation is there, and we can often see that bad news in some media is spread quickly, and many messages are proved to be false in the future, and I think whale has deliberately released the FUD with the media.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cizatext on June 15, 2018, 09:00:21 PM
The manipulation of bitcoin price is criminally influence due to the fact that the market can be easily play at, bitcoin as a decentralized currency and volatility nature, at that the market is being play with. Bitcoin is very easy to be manipulated and price is easily changed due to it volatility.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: 2tf on June 15, 2018, 09:11:37 PM

As an unregulated market price manipulation is a common thing and more with the amount of size and exposure that the market has now.
These are the risks of uncontrolled decentralization


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Inkdatar on June 15, 2018, 09:37:16 PM
The manipulation of bitcoin price is criminally influence due to the fact that the market can be easily play at, bitcoin as a decentralized currency and volatility nature, at that the market is being play with. Bitcoin is very easy to be manipulated and price is easily changed due to it volatility.
Yes price changed at all times because of volatility so price manipulation can happen anytime. It can happen for the bitcoin price as they take advantages when the price is at lower rate. The more they have of btc the more price fluctuates and manipulation does exists.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dissident991 on June 15, 2018, 09:48:42 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
All who work with crypto and trade know that this market is manipulated by big players and exchanges, in particular Bitfinex by issue millions of Tether.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sevenbits on June 15, 2018, 10:17:42 PM
And how to assess the impact of sayings of politicians on the market? This can also be regarded as market manipulation and speculation. Nevertheless, the market depends on many factors and it is easy to manipulate. And this is a feature of any market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: rickadone on June 16, 2018, 10:35:27 AM
it happens all the time and the price manipulation can mean pump and dump which we see clearly in anywhere in social media where you pay fees to them, .
We can't just put all our blame into the people doing such actions that causes price fluctuations because in the first place, this is not the only reason having market change.  FUDs also take some effect into it,  but if we don't even play their game,  they actually won't succeed. But sadly some of us just got tempted and full of worries when they saw market turning into red and then easily throw their coins in cheap.
Who are the people that you think use those FUDs to their advantage and could even be the source of that news at times ? The whales or will I say the market manipulators. The essence is to drive the market to their advantage. They have all it takes to do that, they have the capital to buy in at the moment they want, they know as long as the market move in the direction they want, it makes a lot of sense for them and so far that we have a lot of weak hands in the market and a decentralized unregulated market, it makes it so easy for them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: DonFacundo on June 16, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Possible the group of whales can manipulate bitcoin price they can dump and pump whatever they like, there is nothing we can do, but we can join the game of whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: w33man on June 16, 2018, 01:15:12 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation is possible. If you are an influential personality in crypto and by just spreading news, announcement, and information, it can greatly affect the market demand of a certain altcoin or even bitcoin. There are also whales who hold a big bag of cryptocurrency which can affect the price of crypto.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Singwala on June 16, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
Actually it's happening now. I do not know whether a person or a group but I know that it is now being controlled. So we see today the sudden downturn and the rise. Maybe if it does not control the price increases and we will all be happy.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: LETme on June 16, 2018, 02:30:08 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yeah it is possible mostly the big players do this kind of tricks they going to sold their bitcoin at the peek price then they will spread negative new to make FUD to then it can cause by panic it always happen and as expected it is part of bitcoin industry.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: JohnWick_Bitcoin on June 16, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

There is a news before in the past few months that there are hackers in korea who change the prices in the market which leads the dumping of prices in the market, so i think that cryptocurrency can be manipulated if the hacker is really good in programming.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: virarara on June 16, 2018, 02:54:07 PM
I think something like never happened, where some people or organizations try to manipulate bitcoin prices. Maybe it's done for their personal gain or a strategy in finding new enthusiasts bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: CrazeCoinz on June 16, 2018, 02:54:16 PM
Yeah many whales are there waiting for any opportunity to manipulate the market price. Those people that has huge amount of bitcoin can ride the market situation into a bearish as they can dumps their coins to shaken the newbie and create a panic selling of their coins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: techbill on June 16, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
This would be a good use of the government. Actually working for the people. Though of course I prefer them to stay away. But this is good.
In terms of volatility right ? We can sure say it is good since at least there is a lot to benefit from it, but for the good of the market and maturity of the market, it is not good one bit. So many times, there would be a pattern that most manipulators will purposely bring up just to make traders hop in but in reality, all they plan is to screw them over and in a way even activate stop losses in their favor which to me is not a good thing. The market does not move based on usage or real life usage, but based on how some set of people who have upper hand just want it to move, which is really not good.

It's a good thing based on what big players do in order to screw others for their gain. I don't think governments can't stop completely, or any real significant way, but at least it's something.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Black Angel on June 16, 2018, 11:48:41 PM
Many people think that the current price is the result of manipulation, but I think the price is happening is the reality that happened, because for the price manipulation of course required a very large capital so it is a crazy idea if people believe with it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Angi on June 17, 2018, 12:02:47 AM
It is. but the price value is only depend on investors because investors can manipulate the value of bitcoins whether they pump it or dump it so the one who can manipulate it is us users and investors but not real manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lpim01 on June 17, 2018, 12:17:43 AM
Actually it's happening now. I do not know whether a person or a group but I know that it is now being controlled. So we see today the sudden downturn and the rise. Maybe if it does not control the price increases and we will all be happy.
Market today are hardly to predict prices nor we say that it always on the way of growing but it sadly that falling of prices is very often today. Not only market manipulation makes these things but there is another one 'that still need to discover.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ranman09 on June 17, 2018, 02:37:26 AM
It happened before and still happening now. Whales or those who hold tons of bitcoin. If you notice when someone release or sell a large amount of a coin it greatly affects the price. This is the same with other cryptocurrency as it is not regulated.

Even Satoshi Nakamoto should be considered a whale. Because if he still has access to those bitcoins he can greatly affect the current price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: deppil on June 17, 2018, 03:02:54 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
All who work with crypto and trade know that this market is manipulated by big players and exchanges, in particular Bitfinex by issue millions of Tether.
Yeah I'm also still confused by this problem. we know before the price rose so high up to $19k and then it can go down very deep to $6k just by speculation and issues like ban using bitcoin? #wth. I don;t know it's manipulation or not. but many people say that manipulation may have been done by the whales


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: morex0123 on June 17, 2018, 03:07:03 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes i really believed that there are people behind the huge fluctuation of bitcoin that affected also other cryptocurrency and i think they are rich people who influence the market so i suggest to some bitcoin holder is to keep your bitcoin to lessen the demand so market price increases again.



For me, I never get affected if there's a price manipulation involved in crypto business industry. If I am a big investor, I will grab or take the advantage on the positive side of any downtrend or uptrend of price. Its only part of the game in crypto. So better take the chance to buy at cheaper price when market price falls down.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Anhmai on June 17, 2018, 03:09:30 AM
You can see it by the end of 2017 when the price of bitcoin is pushed up to $ 20000 then hit bottom at $ 6000


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Gadhoh on June 17, 2018, 03:57:33 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
it is true we know that price increases can be determined by the volality as well as the number of investors and the price can be manipulated by large investors by storing large-scale or large-scale appeals that will directly affect the price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: insikko0413 on June 17, 2018, 04:13:55 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?


Yes i really believed that there are people behind the huge fluctuation of bitcoin that affected also other cryptocurrency and i think they are rich people who influence the market so i suggest to some bitcoin holder is to keep your bitcoin to lessen the demand so market price increases again.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: blogardianz on June 17, 2018, 04:56:41 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Actually, that is possible that the price of Bitcoin was manipulated.
But I don't think it will be investigated by the law enforcement.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: darklus123 on June 17, 2018, 04:57:41 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It actually happens, since the market of bitcoin basically follows the law of ethics. "Supply and Demand" and this can be easily manipulated by the whales traders. If they will be selling or purchasing together then the price might suddenly drops or goes up. Tho I think even if they will find out that this is really happening they can't put charges to those traders.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Sled on June 17, 2018, 06:54:38 AM
Price manipulation is normal in the market of the cryptocurrencies because we can't deny that there are people who are wealthier than us, who have a lot of money compared to us so they are called as whales in the market which have the advantage in the market because of their money and the thing that we can do right now is to hold if we are stuck at a coin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Babyhouse on June 17, 2018, 07:37:53 AM
This indeed occur in cryptocurrency market. Whale do exists.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: embargo on June 17, 2018, 08:21:49 AM
Manipulation with prices for bitcoin is not only possible, but it already happens. Since the sale of futures for bitcoins, thanks to which you can either raise or lower the price. We can say that bitcoin is a decentralized network, but reality is completely different.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jerick06 on June 17, 2018, 08:42:17 AM
Yea it is possible. When you think about it, if you have large amount of anything you had then your choice or any immediate decision would cause the market change dramatically. They called those persons as a whales which group of a big name in this field.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: maydna on June 17, 2018, 09:50:26 AM
manipulation of the price could be possible especially if people which a huge money do this, I think they can move the price into one price level and then get to the price before. but it should need a big money to moves and not all people can do this. but personally, I really don't know about this since I am not too often to trade for a few days or a few weeks ago so I think I don't know much info about this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: nelsledma on June 18, 2018, 06:23:09 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I think price manipulation for bitcoin is possible. Those big investors can do it since they have the power to store large amount of bitcoin in their hands and at the same time release them the time they wanted. As a result it can affect the market's supply and demand.
Yeah it is possible and I think that in this day whales are trying to hold maximum bitcoins and due to their price manipulation the price is decreasing day by day. I doubt that the previous year pump was also due to big investor’s manipulation. The price reached to $20000 and they made thousands of dollars. On the peak they sold their holding and price collapsed at once.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: no0dlepunk on June 18, 2018, 06:31:48 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

yep, there are things inside the cryptosphere that are hard to explain in details - like the price manipulation. It is also hard to accuse somebody without hard data... but there aint really something that money can't buy, for anything else there is mastercard.

ha ha. What I mean was, these exchanges could possibly falsify the volume, and the cap can always be pumped by money makers. but of course, without data, this is just another fake news.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kisscoin on June 18, 2018, 08:44:53 AM
Everything can be possible in our life! The goal of the government is to prevent the financial independence of ordinary people, changes in the distribution of wealth is not in their pozu, so they do everything that bitcoin has fallen or completely depreciated. I'm sure they won't succeed! The time of oligarchs comes to naught, as well as all currency ruling nowadays in the form of dollar and Euro... Every bitcoins!  ;)


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sunanbonang on June 18, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
to manipulate prices requires enormous funds, perhaps tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of USD. we can only avail by buying bitcoins at cheap prices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: radjie on June 18, 2018, 09:31:42 AM
manipulation of the price could be possible especially if people which a huge money do this, I think they can move the price into one price level and then get to the price before. but it should need a big money to moves and not all people can do this. but personally, I really don't know about this since I am not too often to trade for a few days or a few weeks ago so I think I don't know much info about this.
I even saw a video of someone who acknowledged that the price movement of kriptocurrency can be manipulated by a group of people who have big capital and they can join certain organizations so that they can simultaneously affect market price movements; they can deliberately drop the market by simultaneously putting the price on point lowest


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Smarty14392 on June 18, 2018, 10:13:11 AM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.
Yet, we are aware of that and we can't stop them since they have power to take such action. Crypto investment is somewhat similar to local ,form of investment, still manipulation is present. That's why we just accept these cause that is really we are.
Yes whales are big problem in this market. They manipulate the price in the market. When they hold a large amount of bitcoin they manipulate the price and set a price according to their well. They collect maximum of profit from bitcoin investment and small investors often lose their money due to manipulation. Many people do not know anything about manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: intoy_victor on June 18, 2018, 11:47:44 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Maybe yes or maybe not Im not sure if there is a possibility to manipulate the bitcoin price. Only one that I know that could possibly manipulate the price is the stock holder like company's that has an ally an stock holders also. But it is only my opinion and prediction.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: doroshok2 on June 18, 2018, 11:56:03 AM
That's possible. There is no precise information. Rumor has it. And if you think about it, it's possible that so-called whales can control the price. But mostly the price depends on the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Triwiyono on June 18, 2018, 12:01:19 PM
I don't know for sure, but I think there is a price manipulation that occurs in bitcoin prices. it maybe hard to find who can manipulate bitcoin prices because it is not do by 1 person, but in doing with some people or groups that have the same purpose.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: topkhai on June 18, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Some people find that many examples of price manipulation occur only because the market is very fragile for a variety of hidden cryptoes, including Bitcoin. If Bitcoin wants to be taken seriously, it may not be this easy or legal to manipulate the market. While decentralization should supersede the rules, it is clear that there is still a way to do it before taken seriously


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: el kaka22 on June 18, 2018, 12:15:58 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Basically, if you really have a big volume of coin you might affect the price of the coin in the market. I believe that it is not manipulation but jist a short term effect on the coin's value. Surely in no time tge price will eventually recover and continue to go on it's way. Changes might happen but no really haa the full control over it.

Agreed, someone with a big stack could just be selling and influence the market, but does not mean he is trying to manipulate the price.
Someone with a big stack selling is obviously selling and that is not a problem, but when you start seeing spoofing on the order book, or wash trading, or some sort of ways to deceive other people so as to dump on them and gain from maybe their stop loss or something, then, that is where the main problem is going to be and that is where manipulation of prices do come in.

Yes, some traders can change their mind when trying to make an order, but the truth is that a lot of manipulation is done in this market, and most traders would definitely have noticed that.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: pellor mas on June 18, 2018, 12:26:12 PM
I do not know exactly what has happened, because I think the price is always like this. Anyway if there are some things being manipulated about the price, I hope this will be resolved soon.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Pinoyfan on June 18, 2018, 12:49:48 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
The real manipulator of bitcoin is bitcoin whales they controlling the value of bitcoin on a biggest population, but its value that twenty years ago. The only thing I support that they can be used in a new way of cryptocurrency or bitcoin. The first thing for you have a great way.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: DrYe5 on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
I do not know exactly what has happened, because I think the price is always like this. Anyway if there are some things being manipulated about the price, I hope this will be resolved soon.
It’s never easy to clearly divine the reasons why Bitcoin’s value goes where it goes,which may be why regulators are worried about price manipulation,but selloffs tend to follow prominent hacks and regulatory clampdowns.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: darewaller on June 18, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I think price manipulation for bitcoin is possible. Those big investors can do it since they have the power to store large amount of bitcoin in their hands and at the same time release them the time they wanted. As a result it can affect the market's supply and demand.
Not like it is possible, it is being done every day. This is a speculative market and the fact is that the whales do take advantage of it a lot and try as much as possible to gain huge position and make a lot of money with it.

It is nor a regulated market, so things like this should be expected but the investigation that is being done goes right, and we get to see some regulations in place to limit or eliminate things like this, then it would really be a great advantage for the space as we either get to see a real non manipulated uptrend or a downtrend.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jademacoy on June 18, 2018, 01:02:20 PM
Yes there are price manipulation with those big whales or pool of investors doing day trading and that is not good for those who are planning to go on long term investment because the market price increase is not good meaning to say it will slow down on the market price increase due to this day traders that taking every chance to earn using a system that will let them sleep and just automatically let them trade by the use of the system.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: altcoin4u on June 18, 2018, 01:16:10 PM
Yeah right, bitcoin manipulation can happen. It used to happen in Mtgox. It seems that now the manipulation of bitcoin is occurring, as a result US Begin to Investigate Bitcoin Price Manipulation Case, the US Department of Justice (US) opened a criminal investigation into the possibility of market participants manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other (cryptocurrency) currencies,

The investigation includes an examination of spoofing practices, in which an investor makes an order intended to manipulate the price of an instrument, and flood the market with fake orders.

It is normal, I think...all the markets in the world, even my food market near my home here are affected by this thing. There are some guys, who has the 80% of all potato in the area, they are manipulating the price, lol.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Konco126 on June 18, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
I personally do not really believe in price manipulation. Has been proven before, but the question is here who determines the price?
I'm sure no one here knows that. Even if it happens, maybe it's just a coincidence. We here can only hope and be patient for the high price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jupyterxxx on June 18, 2018, 01:47:23 PM
bitcoin prices are very likely to be manipulated in my opinion. Just observe the drama that happened last year around september? When bitcoin transactions were suddenly halted because miners shifted to bitcoin cash? That itself was a great example of manipulating the entire bitcoin ecosystem. The main problem seems to be that a small group of pools are controlling most of the mining activities around the world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Makka on June 18, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
In any market there's always people that will try to manipulate prices. Be it in oil, forex and stocks where its market are in trillions. So how much more in crypto where it is only in hundred billion dollars.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: maydna on June 18, 2018, 02:00:05 PM
maybe it just a false news that makes many people afraid and they think to sell their bitcoin with fast. but I think it could happen as we can see that the bitcoin price moves in any range of price. market crypto will give riskier than another market because we cannot control the market and maybe people which have big money will trying to move the price. but I believe that the price will be back to increase again and the false news will disappear.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Soranith on June 18, 2018, 02:12:40 PM
Price manipulation is not new even in stock market and forex they do that all the time, whales can always do that so what we we do is to study when to ride so that we won’t lose our money.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: iv4n on June 18, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
Price manipulation is not new even in stock market and forex they do that all the time, whales can always do that so what we we do is to study when to ride so that we won’t lose our money.

It's not new exactly, it's happen with every market since forever. Whales are not a new term, they exist as long as markets exists, they manipulate with markets with their big bankrolls and with some help, they use news to manipulate with masses, rumor's, etc. Bitcoin as something new attracted many good people, but that's not all many bad people moved their illegal businesses on crypto. Don't blame bitcoin because it fluctuate, blame people, they do all the bad things. People ask when will it stop? Probably never, people can't be forced to be better, some people will be bad forever.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: YNAGS Team on June 18, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
I think, all the bitcoin economy and price system is based on the manipulations, there are few guys or companies of guys called whales, and they are moving market where they want.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: max fray on June 18, 2018, 04:55:14 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
The market can easily be manipulated by top 1,000 holders of bitcoin and this indeed has happened before.
Some time ago panic was caused by the fact that a couple of whales sold bitcoins costing several hundreds of millions of dollars - this resulted in a rapid decrease of price in just a few hours.
I am not quite sure whether this was done intentionally (maybe they just needed some cash to buy a couple of luxury homes  :D), but the result was a disaster..


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: readygoaw on June 19, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
I always thought that there's someone behind Bitcoin who manipulate or controls things. we may think it's decentralized but at the back of our minds we always think, who are those people. sooner or later we will all find out who are those people behind this manipulation.

Those people that have already concentrated the majority of Bitcoins and some other leading cryptocurrencies in their hands can easily manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kevpantof on June 19, 2018, 10:33:15 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think there is no price manipulation, it depends on the trusted bitcoin market if there are many customers who buy our coins, then the price is expensive.
That's my opinion.
Prices of cryptocurrencies are depending upon the amount of investments take place in a market which increases the demand rate and this increase is necessary for sellers so that they may be able to get advantage of the high market and get huge profit. In the current market further investments should take place if you are Bitcoin holder at this stage then you should add more to your holding coins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 19, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin


We are in the world of market investment, anything can be manipulated by the Whales behind some legit company investors on the treed, if look at the social media news as posted, there some price manipulation and the government is into the process of investigation of the said issue, although, crypto currency digital transaction is Decentralized, we will never know if there is a confirmed data on this issue.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Redhead5 on June 19, 2018, 10:54:07 AM
I think, all the bitcoin economy and price system is based on the manipulations, there are few guys or companies of guys called whales, and they are moving market where they want.

Agree. The so called BIG WHALES plays a great role in manipulating bitcoin price. Because they are the great holders of bitcoin and they can really make any strategies inorder to move bitcoin in a very volatile prices towards declining that could make tense to some small holders and dumped their bitcoin owned panickly.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: elkafee79 on June 19, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes, I think price manipulation can happen if someone has a lot of bitcoin. they call them whales. In fact I've heard rumors that there are groups that hold very large amounts of bitcoin, they can control the market price on bitcoin. but I am more confident in the current market correction is happening. I believe market will rise again.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Daimon88 on June 19, 2018, 11:37:00 AM
Price manipulation do happen, though I’m yet to understand how it works or how they do such, cause before I used to believe that price manipulation is when whales are investing huge amount of money and controlling the price, but this time around it seems like it something very much different from what I have thought. I have seen a lot of people talk about price manipulation so it does happen in crypto. The way it is, I don’t think you can do anything about it unless they are caught.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: MiXxe on June 19, 2018, 11:44:22 AM
What makes me worried about this is that, bitcoin is not really legal that is why I don't think that even though there will be an investigation regarding the price manipulation, it won't easily be solved. Besides big whales have big power and I just hope that it won't use its influence to change the result of the legal investigation. It's hard if bitcoin will be manipulated because that might reduce the number of investors.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jovs on June 19, 2018, 12:05:20 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
It could really happen since bitcoin operation is not regulated, big whales could actually put up big shares and eventually control the supply and demands of the coin. That is where the government should use their authority to balance and create a fair market for everyone. We have trusted the blockchain technology to benefit not only the rich, but to open up opportunity for people in all walks of life to reach their financial goal. Responsible marketing and fair operation will attract more bitcoin investors to build a stronger market for cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: naidray on June 19, 2018, 12:12:46 PM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.
In every financial related sector is that there would always be such people in the market and they are indirectly called the market makers. As far as I am concerned, it is a way for them to get the best of their investment since they know exactly when to accumulate and when to sell off. However, in the middle of it all, they get to find a way to trick traders based on some pattern and that is where I normally have problem with, but it is what it is, it is an unregulated market and until then, we live with it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Sofiyah on June 19, 2018, 04:01:58 PM
it maybe true that there is bitcoin price manipulation, but we do not know who is manipulating and how. which we know, why there is price manipulation because so that bitcoin prices down and investors who have large capital can buy bitcoin when the price is cheap. it's just an opinion, maybe somebody knows better.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Nolimitz84 on June 19, 2018, 04:23:21 PM
I think it's possible.This is mainly done by whales.A favorite tactic of whales is called,,pump and dump,,.The essence of this tactic is to coordinate the artificial rise of a certain asset and a sharp reset at a price peak.Such manipulation of the market can often be seen in the example of altcoins, which have a relatively small capitalization, but a huge potential.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: weblouartisan on June 19, 2018, 04:32:38 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Bitcoins is not related to any criminal price manipulations because most of the people who are using cryptocurrency is only looking for an alternative way of having an income monthly because daily needs is very hard to sustain.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Pinoyfan on June 19, 2018, 04:50:08 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
The price manipulator is those whales they always manipulate the value of cryptocurrency. Even bitcoin.I am sure of that. They controlling the value of that currency so they have a full control to it. And anything they want they will get. A huge factor of bitcoin how pitiful is that right


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: imking on June 19, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes, it could be true that price can be manipulated, But the question on my mind who are main boss or mastermind to manipulated it. All say Whales is the one managing the cost. But who are the whales behind on this?  I don’t get the exact answer on it. Still an anonymous because if we know who is manipulated on it, SEC or department of justice doesn’t need to investigate or solve the issues. So we need to solve this issues to stop it. 


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Experia on June 19, 2018, 05:02:57 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes, it could be true that price can be manipulated, But the question on my mind who are main boss or mastermind to manipulated it. All say Whales is the one managing the cost. But who are the whales behind on this?  I don’t get the exact answer on it. Still an anonymous because if we know who is manipulated on it, SEC or department of justice doesn’t need to investigate or solve the issues. So we need to solve this issues to stop it. 

we are all anonymous here, so it is very hard for someone to know who is the whales behind the price manipulation in the crypto world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: v3liana on June 19, 2018, 05:20:46 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
it does possible. With big amount of money and a lot coins and good decisions i believe they could affect the market price. They might be not doing it alone, maybe there is a team behind it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: beerlover on June 19, 2018, 06:04:22 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

To be completely transparent, the answer should be a resounding, Yes.

If you do enough research, you will see that bitcoin is an emerging technology that has greatly benefitted those early investors. Some of whom have thousands and thousands of bitcoin. Now let your imagine run free for awhile and imagine you had 10,000 bitcoin. That would make a huge impact on exchange trading buy and sell orders right? Now imagine yourself as a savvy economist day trader statistician, don't you think you would have some ideas on how to make calculated trades that would leverage your portfolio size to earn profits?
Resounding, yes indeed lol! It is obvious and a lot of traders already know that. It is not new, happy that it is being investigated, and I hope something can be done about it.

It is a volatile and decentralized market and with that those who have the upper hand in the market usually do not let things roll normally where we get to see real demand and supply and market moving in the direction but rather would instigate some direction, fuel in FOMO, and before you know it, dump!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Tungsten-1 on June 19, 2018, 08:11:01 PM
it maybe true that there is bitcoin price manipulation, but we do not know who is manipulating and how. which we know, why there is price manipulation because so that bitcoin prices down and investors who have large capital can buy bitcoin when the price is cheap. it's just an opinion, maybe somebody knows better.
There is no single entity in international market who deals with this manipulation. Rather a whole mafia or a group of so many whales that have condenses on some demands and takes and they are making the market up and down. Here one thing to understand, these whales don’t control bitcoin, they are just controlling the market. The prices going up and down just because of this reason.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: salita23 on June 19, 2018, 08:39:41 PM
Yes, price manipulation can happen if someone has a lot of bitcoin. they call them whales. even I've heard a rumor that there is a group holding bitcoin in a very large amount, they can control the market price on bitcoin.

That is true their are price manipulation happen because they feel envy in the group they have seen that their are bitcoiner who has many crypto the whale will start to attack the investors or the bitcoiner. The rumor is always a rumor if you did not experience yet but for those who experienced already that is true to them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Nakedbitcoin on June 19, 2018, 11:44:17 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think that is true,  their are some big player's behined why the price of bitcoin is not stable. Because of the big player's or the big whales. They can manipulate the price of bitcoin it's their strategies to sell a big volumes of bitcoin when the price is high. And also distributed FUD and the False news to the media so that the price of bitcoin will be affected and the price will fluctuates. And then they have to buy a big volumes of coins in a very low prices.they will eat the small investor's. 


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kateycoin on June 19, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Manipulation is doing of whales that have huge capital to manipulate their assets in the crypto market so I think even before manipulation is happening in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kastara on June 20, 2018, 01:45:13 AM
So my question is what happens with the next cryptocurrency when it finds a price manipulation whether bitcoin prices will go down to the point where the price of bitcoin was originally.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: wolffy0216 on June 20, 2018, 02:36:13 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Manipulation is doing of whales that have huge capital to manipulate their assets in the crypto market so I think even before manipulation is happening in cryptocurrencies.

Yes, only whales can do the manipulations. There are already lots of big whales now that never stop the manipulations of the cryptocurrencies, for me the better ways to do is to go with the flow, most of the time you will find trends / pattern of it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: marcous on June 20, 2018, 02:40:33 AM
not necessarily I guess, indeed in 2017 bitcoin increases dramatically and does not decrease in price, and by 2018 correction occurs. This is not a matter of price manipulation but can be considered a stressing market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: burnchan on June 20, 2018, 02:44:25 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Poortorich2018 on June 20, 2018, 03:05:08 AM
That's True Bitcoins will manipulate not only in the US but also in the whole the world maybe not yet comes but its near to come. in our country in the Philippines some people are using now Digital currency like bitcoins. a lot also of online investment. but from now the economy of bitcoins is so low prices. if here we convert bitcoins into our money is so very low value. maybe if we have big capital to invest then convert it into our money is not good. but positively if we invest at this time and waiting for the higher value of bitcoins. we can be earn a lot if we are patiently wait for it. you are so price if bitcoins will be Manipulate in all thr country in our generation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lagoons on June 20, 2018, 03:06:13 AM
What makes me worried about this is that, bitcoin is not really legal that is why I don't think that even though there will be an investigation regarding the price manipulation, it won't easily be solved. Besides big whales have big power and I just hope that it won't use its influence to change the result of the legal investigation. It's hard if bitcoin will be manipulated because that might reduce the number of investors.

Crytos, stocks, etc, they are all manipulated, even though stocks are regulated. Bitcoin is not illegal, but lets say it is, it became legal, that won't cut down on manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Netnox on June 20, 2018, 03:08:12 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Manipulation was possible in 2013, when 90% of the trade volume was concentrated on Mt Gox and BTC-e. But now there are hundreds, if not thousands of exchanges and the trade volume is more evenly distributed. Now it is much harder to manipulate the prices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: InKiTy38 on June 20, 2018, 03:15:33 AM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Muzika on June 20, 2018, 04:50:43 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BaraxLo on June 20, 2018, 07:10:57 AM
Manipulation with prices for bitcoin is not only possible, but it already happens. Since the sale of futures for bitcoins, thanks to which you can either raise or lower the price. We can say that bitcoin is a decentralized network, but reality is completely different.
The market of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will surely increase and will grow more with the passage of time because people are attracting towards this market due to the promotions of Bitcoin. Investment with large amount and in good timings will make this market well and will contribute to the stability. All these things if go well then the market price and other factors besides users will manipulate.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: raven7886 on June 20, 2018, 06:12:52 PM
Price manipulation is actually very possible especially in the world of cryptocurrencies because these so called whales can push and pull the prices in the market. Investors that have hodled a portion of the circulating coins in the market.
Yeah, it is even easier with the decentralized cryptocurrency market which makes it so easy for any whale to easily do away with it and go scot free. It is a good thing that this is being investigated and I really do hope it can be curbed one way or the other, so as to at least have a sane market.

I still believe regulation will bring many advantages but will be a hard thing since all the exchanges are not under one single regulation or government. That is trouble we all need to bear with decentralized environment whereas mass adoption will be possible regardless of various regulations among countries.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BitcoinMarketer39 on June 20, 2018, 06:15:49 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.

It will be hard to track though wallets, but maybe its true that cryptocurrency are being used for drug laundering but there are a lot of people today that are being helped by cryptocurrency on their financial problems so government should not ban bitcoins because everyone will be affected.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: arhipova on June 20, 2018, 06:52:47 PM
Manipulation is possible in crypto. But I think that it is least in case of bitcoins, most of the bitcoins is with early adopters only.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Btcepenbob on June 20, 2018, 07:10:56 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think this could really happen. BTC could easily manipulated by those what we called WHALE. This is a group of people that their main goal is to controll prices by falling it down as a signal of deep then falling it up slowly. This is a very easy way if you have a larger share on btc.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cedrixperez on June 20, 2018, 07:36:48 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think price manipulation is imposible, but we can analyze the market and have a possible prediction  for the price. Bitcoin is volatile and I think even an well-experienced traders cannot predict the price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: netil on June 20, 2018, 09:25:38 PM
The question is what exactly is considered manipulation. For example, if a politician or a big businessman speaks about crypto and the market reacts to it. Will this be considered the manipulation of the market?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: atliens99 on June 20, 2018, 09:43:51 PM
The same things go on in the stock market just on a smaller scale compared to crypto.  The fud, the fomo, etc it's just a mirror image to wall street.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: reginalkri on June 20, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
I remember two or three years ago a stock exchange trading company spending millions of dollars upgrading their computers just so that their bots could trade nanoseconds faster. That slight gain in speed was worth millions to them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: DanicaManunson on June 20, 2018, 11:15:39 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.

I think the price manipulations is caused by whales and other big fishes in the market, they always there in the market, the big dumpers and other fishes are also there, the price in the market is always been like that , it will not be easier to determine the price changing and fast moving projects  inside crypto.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: verziagra on June 20, 2018, 11:19:57 PM
That's common in cryptocurrency. only people who have a lot of money can manipulate the price. they can set the selling price and buy in each crypto market. like whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sieemma on June 21, 2018, 09:16:06 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
What I know about price manipulation is just like the normal pump and dump everyone knows. People who have larger volumes of bitcoins manipulate the price based on how they want it to be. So they sell more bitcoins when they want to drop the price and buy more when they want the price to increase. There may be something else described as price manipulation but with what I just said, it is very likely people can manipulate the price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gamalzour on June 21, 2018, 10:14:27 AM
Yeah right, bitcoin manipulation can happen. It used to happen in Mtgox. It seems that now the manipulation of bitcoin is occurring, as a result US Begin to Investigate Bitcoin Price Manipulation Case, the US Department of Justice (US) opened a criminal investigation into the possibility of market participants manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other (cryptocurrency) currencies,

The investigation includes an examination of spoofing practices, in which an investor makes an order intended to manipulate the price of an instrument, and flood the market with fake orders.

It is normal, I think...all the markets in the world, even my food market near my home here are affected by this thing. There are some guys, who has the 80% of all potato in the area, they are manipulating the price, lol.
We are now in a stage of unfavorable conditions and all we need is to invest in this market for our benefit in order to collect coins in large quantity so that we may be able to get maximum benefit. The current market encourages people to invest as the Bitcoin is available on low rate and that is the reason why the market is recording more investments these days which is showing its improvement from yesterday.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: reginalkri on June 22, 2018, 12:49:20 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
What I know about price manipulation is just like the normal pump and dump everyone knows. People who have larger volumes of bitcoins manipulate the price based on how they want it to be. So they sell more bitcoins when they want to drop the price and buy more when they want the price to increase. There may be something else described as price manipulation but with what I just said, it is very likely people can manipulate the price.

Don't forget also that on top of that, the really big players with various connections can also organize fud, or the opposite of fud to facilitate things.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gambitcoin53 on June 22, 2018, 01:06:27 AM
Yeah right, bitcoin manipulation can happen. It used to happen in Mtgox. It seems that now the manipulation of bitcoin is occurring, as a result US Begin to Investigate Bitcoin Price Manipulation Case, the US Department of Justice (US) opened a criminal investigation into the possibility of market participants manipulating the price of Bitcoin and other (cryptocurrency) currencies,

The investigation includes an examination of spoofing practices, in which an investor makes an order intended to manipulate the price of an instrument, and flood the market with fake orders.

if there is someone who manipulates bitcoin, i wonder how will they incorporate the offender, since transaction made using bitcoin is anonymous, spoofing practice? in what way they can manipulate the price of bitcoin using purchases? if it is a fake orders, then it will not push through, who would waste a bitcoin trying to fake orders? well, i hope this will be smoothly done with success.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: deppil on June 22, 2018, 01:24:17 AM
What makes me worried about this is that, bitcoin is not really legal that is why I don't think that even though there will be an investigation regarding the price manipulation, it won't easily be solved. Besides big whales have big power and I just hope that it won't use its influence to change the result of the legal investigation. It's hard if bitcoin will be manipulated because that might reduce the number of investors.

Crytos, stocks, etc, they are all manipulated, even though stocks are regulated. Bitcoin is not illegal, but lets say it is, it became legal, that won't cut down on manipulation.
I think manipulation happens because some users can do that? in the sense they have more power than other users? What is that ? has a very large fund so that its policy is very influential on the market. we often call it the whales. maybe they have thousands of bitcoins. so he could easily to manipulate crypto market


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: knggtrrz on June 22, 2018, 01:26:27 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Manipulation was possible in 2013, when 90% of the trade volume was concentrated on Mt Gox and BTC-e. But now there are hundreds, if not thousands of exchanges and the trade volume is more evenly distributed. Now it is much harder to manipulate the prices.

But price is still manipulated until now, also I think that medias and other big personalities are getting paid off by making bad or good news about bitcoin. The manipulation will never stop and it will become more bigger and wider as more big investors are joining the cryptocurrencie world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Mr.John19 on June 22, 2018, 07:29:10 AM
Manipulation is all over the place. I concur that value control on the cryptocurrency on the market even in this present reality market. These individuals do the control of the business sectors called whales with a great deal of bitcoin, influence, money. The legislature should utilize their power to adjust and rise to ideal to available for everybody. I have faith in our discussion we have manipulator of the value of a few coins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: wuvdoll on June 22, 2018, 07:35:52 AM
Manipulation is all over the place. I concur that value control on the cryptocurrency on the market even in this present reality market. These individuals do the control of the business sectors called whales with a great deal of bitcoin, influence, money. The legislature should utilize their power to adjust and rise to ideal to available for everybody. I have faith in our discussion we have manipulator of the value of a few coins.
The fact that it is manipulated does not mean it still is not decentralized and all these things will change eventually as time goes on when the market gets to a stage where it is not just a speculative asset but also a currency that is being used for real life stuffs and the reason it was created in the first place. By then, we would have gotten to see mainstream adoption, huge market cap, and the idea of trying to manipulate a price will be the last thing any whale will want to do.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: spongegar on June 22, 2018, 07:36:28 AM
Think about this for a sec. What if you have a boat load of cash and you see that there is a huge supply of BTC in the market for a very low price. Then you buy alot of it. So since the supply got less, the price jacks up. Now you're thinking I'll make alot of money selling it so you did. That is what we call whales.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Magiklair on June 22, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
The Bitcoin BTC / USD is trading at 6,703. The currency is traded above the upper boundary of the Ichimoku Kinko Hyo Cloud, indicating an upward trend in Bitcoin. I think this means the increase in price


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Elmughni on June 22, 2018, 08:52:38 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes, I think price manipulation can happen if someone has a lot of bitcoin. they call them whales. In fact I've heard rumors that there are groups that hold very large amounts of bitcoin, they can control the market price on bitcoin. But I still believe that the current happening is a market correction. I believe bitcoin will more stable.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jademacoy on June 22, 2018, 08:59:56 AM
No there is no crypto price manipulation but there is price adjustment that will happen every time because of the people doing day trading. If you have observe the crypto market price it is constantly moving and huge investors or it could be a pool of investors are doing trading. This will result to market price volatility. And not only that some of them are using a system that has a program on it that you can make a script on when to trade and hold. Surely profit there is with that system.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BitProCoin on June 22, 2018, 09:41:58 AM
Bitcoin is decentralized market so no one have the control of it but the people who are holding the larger part of the crypto currencies can manipulate it by changing the demand and supply.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BitcoinCommodor on June 22, 2018, 09:42:06 AM
I always thought that there's someone behind Bitcoin who manipulate or controls things. we may think it's decentralized but at the back of our minds we always think, who are those people. sooner or later we will all find out who are those people behind this manipulation.

Those people that have already concentrated the majority of Bitcoins and some other leading cryptocurrencies in their hands can easily manipulate the market.
But of course they do not hold as much as the remaining people hold so even if they try to manipulate the prices, they will not be able to do so if the remaining people do not change their behaviors towards the changes in the market brought about by the Whales.

The market looks at the behavior of the investors and changes accordingly. Also no matter how much the price drops, we will never loose if we do not follow the red market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PizzaBTC on June 22, 2018, 11:19:32 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.
Price will manipulate by the demand rate which is increasing these days due to the market of Bitcoin which has low value around 6.8k dollar which is achievable and affordable for common person. So the market is recording a huge traffic these days and we will see the reaction soon. The demand of people with huge investments will quickly manipulate the market of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: geminasy on June 22, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
How will they track investment done from other countries ? Do you think all countries will cooperate in this investigation ?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Elrozaq on June 22, 2018, 12:06:21 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes It's true. Of course that's happened a lot. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are great places to earn a lot of money if you know how to trade. People who have a lot of money can try to manipulate the market by selling lots of crypto. That's in my opinion.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: tikanurqaidah on June 22, 2018, 12:14:55 PM
Bitcoin and altcoin prices are calculated based on sales and purchases. Moreover, there are investors I think it is impossible to happen such a thing. prices can only be determined by demand and offerings. automatically the price will follow. often the occurrence of inflation in cryptocurrency thus. supply and demand can be said to be unbalanced. if many bidding requests are less likely to result in coin prices will rise, on the contrary if less demand but many offers resulted in the price of coins will fall


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: lol1yatme on June 23, 2018, 07:33:29 AM
Manipulation is all over the place. I concur that value control on the cryptocurrency on the market even in this present reality market. These individuals do the control of the business sectors called whales with a great deal of bitcoin, influence, money. The legislature should utilize their power to adjust and rise to ideal to available for everybody. I have faith in our discussion we have manipulator of the value of a few coins.
This isn’t new thing. Bitcoin and other altcoins are doing amazing in the world now. They are offering different chances to everyone to get into this world and make money with these easy methods. But the problem comes when some haters don’t allow this to be happen. They start making bad plans and manipulating things. Like you have said, celebrities often become source of discouragement.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Eigig on June 23, 2018, 07:40:39 AM
Manipulation is all over the place. I concur that value control on the cryptocurrency on the market even in this present reality market. These individuals do the control of the business sectors called whales with a great deal of bitcoin, influence, money. The legislature should utilize their power to adjust and rise to ideal to available for everybody. I have faith in our discussion we have manipulator of the value of a few coins.
This isn’t new thing. Bitcoin and other altcoins are doing amazing in the world now. They are offering different chances to everyone to get into this world and make money with these easy methods. But the problem comes when some haters don’t allow this to be happen. They start making bad plans and manipulating things. Like you have said, celebrities often become source of discouragement.
The price manipulation can be  charge to that bitcoin sector the whales , because they have the biggest capital of investment in bitcoin, and if they move the price value of coin in the voin market will be change really, but this is just speculations there are no proofs that is surfing ,that this whales are manipulating the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Eijrafarm on June 23, 2018, 09:21:10 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Yes, manipulation is really true. A group of people called " whales" are the one whose behind this controversial price dump and sudden pump. Let's just hope that word decentralized won't be erased because of this people.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: indog on June 23, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Maybe, the existence of unlimited bitcoin rules, everyone is free for his actions against bitcoin, unlike a stock or commodity transaction. We just wait for the next action


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: weiweianll on June 24, 2018, 11:47:58 AM
It may be Wall Street's capitalists doing BTC price manipulation!
Here brought together a large amount of capital in the world, Wall Street capitalists short Bitcoin by designing bitcoin futures contracts!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Kiweikoo on June 26, 2018, 10:03:52 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes price manipulation is possible. These are being executed by whales. they interfere with market behavior which may mislead the other investors. I believe this kind of events must be thoroughly investigated because this might ruin the integrity of Bitcoin and this is punishable by the law.

yes for me also it should be investigated by who? We are all anonymous here as of now so even the government agency would be hard for them to investigate it specially if the whales can play with the flow of the market.

It will be hard to track though wallets, but maybe its true that cryptocurrency are being used for drug laundering but there are a lot of people today that are being helped by cryptocurrency on their financial problems so government should not ban bitcoins because everyone will be affected.
The market demand is low and the value of Bitcoin reached at 6.8k dollar but today the demand rate dropped more and the price dropped is 6.1k dollar.

A common person can afford it very easily which makes the market recording a big traffic and which will show its reaction with a quick response soon. With huge investment and with the demand of people the market will manipulate soon and quickly.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Maddinson100 on June 30, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
It may be Wall Street's capitalists doing BTC price manipulation!
Here brought together a large amount of capital in the world, Wall Street capitalists short Bitcoin by designing bitcoin futures contracts!
This is the big problem in the crypto world. Big investors manipulate the price according to their well and when they want to buy the price decreases to its bottom and when they want to sell the price reaches to the sky. For low investors it is not good and mostly small investors lose their money due to such manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Kamote29 on June 30, 2018, 07:11:21 AM
We cannot say that there is a price manipulation. We know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: trako on June 30, 2018, 12:16:25 PM
of course its possible. finance is influenced by human psychology. The easiest way to influence people is to manipulate them. speculation is the biggest weapon to attract investors.
At the moment, some are buying from the cheapest level. they will make good speculation and raise prices later on. and they will sell what they buy cheaply on their hands at a high price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Pattart on June 30, 2018, 12:24:53 PM
We cannot say that there is a price manipulation. We know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media.
We can not provide certain evidence because there is no evidence to be found that a person is manipulating. but we know that
prices can be manipulated by setting buy and ask. and some users who have large capital can do that. but there is no evidence for that


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: aspalela on June 30, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
If I think price manipulation is normal that occurs in the market because our Crypto currency can not deny that there are people who are richer than us, but If they will sell or buy together then the price may suddenly go down or up, I think even if they will know that this is really happening they can not afford the cost to the merchants, who who have an advantage in the market because of their money and the thing we can do now is survive if we get stuck in coin for now.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bristlefront on June 30, 2018, 07:58:10 PM
Whales could manipulate it since they have a large amount of bitcoin and once it trades on a certain exchange with an enough volume, if the holder has the largest contribution to the exchange's volume, it could control the bitcoins price and it also applies for altcoins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: dragontigear on June 30, 2018, 10:41:55 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
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yes, i believe that theres a big possibility of a price manipulation made by some rich people trying to destruct the image of bitcoin in the market so that once the pruce decreasing they can buy more coins to hold  and to wait for the market recovery


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cpkozak on June 30, 2018, 11:02:03 PM
Whales could manipulate it since they have a large amount of bitcoin and once it trades on a certain exchange with an enough volume, if the holder has the largest contribution to the exchange's volume, it could control the bitcoins price and it also applies for altcoins.

What you say is true. Just a little action like transferring a large number of BTCs from a cold wallet to a trading floor will also have a positive impact on the market price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Zachwolf on June 30, 2018, 11:13:20 PM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin

Because of the ugly situation in the market of crypto currency some says that it is manipulated. In fact it is the competition of prices of token sale in the marketplace.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Pandu Gleen on June 30, 2018, 11:33:13 PM
It seems that it's caused by large-scale buyers and buying at prices that do not match the prices that exist on the market, maybe that's affecting the price to look like manipulated. That's in my opinion.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Sled on July 01, 2018, 12:05:00 AM
It seems that it's caused by large-scale buyers and buying at prices that do not match the prices that exist on the market, maybe that's affecting the price to look like manipulated. That's in my opinion.
Those big buyers or players in the market that are buying with a huge volume of capital are called whales. The whales in the market are the one who are manipulating the market and putting abnormality growth or movement in the market which is an activity that they do for their own selves because they want to create a faster profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Bitfling on July 01, 2018, 03:31:25 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I am believe this never happen in cryptocurrency market. I think cryptocurrency market is most transparant market compare with others market like stocks market or others. In stock market, price can be manipulated with insider trading information or others but can not happen in cryptomarket


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: megatrix on July 01, 2018, 03:59:35 AM
I think it is possible, given that there are some rich businessmen called whales who are somewhat trying to manipulate the price of Bitcoin in creating pumps and and dumps, which is allowing them to lead the price to where they want it to be, unfortunately this is for their own selfish gains only. It is actually creating more FUDs hence, contributing to the failure of Bitcoin's value and price due to the decreasing interest of the public to it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: darkangelosme on July 01, 2018, 04:06:11 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
That is the sad reality of crypto dude, there is some big investors in crypto or what we called whales they can truly manipulate the market, if they wants to pump it they can pump it and if they wants to dump it they can dump it also, there is nothing we can do about it unless the governments would intervene which is I think is also a bad ide.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Sled on July 01, 2018, 04:36:33 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
That is the sad reality of crypto dude, there is some big investors in crypto or what we called whales they can truly manipulate the market, if they wants to pump it they can pump it and if they wants to dump it they can dump it also, there is nothing we can do about it unless the governments would intervene which is I think is also a bad ide.
There is nothing we can do but to learn how to play with them. Whales are very powerful in terms of controlling the trend of the market so it is best to learn how they play and observe their moves and how they are going to execute their plays so if we will know that then we can go with the flow with them and get a higher chance for making a profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Luthfiyaaa on July 01, 2018, 05:09:49 AM
I do not know if price manipulation ever happened before, but I think if there is any price manipulation on cryptocurrency market. some investors with very large amounts of money, maybe can control the market price of crypto, can manipulate easily to make prices rise or fall very quickly and very volatile. because then the big investors can make huge profits. I do not know exactly what happened, it's only my opinion that if the price manipulation of the ceypto market exists.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Siren on July 01, 2018, 05:30:49 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
US government are into this case,they are doing investigations regarding this matter that has been an big issue for how long now.because many believe that prices are manipulated seems like they are doing this kind to favor them and taker advantage from someone whos believing in price movement and in the end will lead for them to be trapped in low value whe they bought the coins from higherprices


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: marcbitcoins on July 01, 2018, 05:50:07 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I don't know if manipulation is a crime but some of this manipulation has been confirmed like they found out that Mt.Gox selling lot of Bitcoins last January and it was revealed thru series of investigations that they are the reason on why from Bitcoin ATH $19,800 it falls down as low as $9,000. For me this kind of act is a manipulation of price that they have just caught and try to reason out that their exchanges was hacked and the hackers sold the huge Bitcoins amount but for me they are one of the big whales who manipulated Bitcoin price to pump up then after the ATH they will just sell it easily.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: pivxmen on July 01, 2018, 06:18:19 AM
Yes it has already happened to bitcoin and in the crypto market. the increase I see is not fair as they raise prices and lower prices quickly


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: nolestiket on July 01, 2018, 06:24:50 AM
The market of crypto-currency has a very small capitalization because of this it is very easy to manipulate. In favor of this theory indicates that recently there were a lot of good news but the rate on the contrary fell


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: reighbut2017 on July 01, 2018, 06:54:45 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think its true behind the speculation of price manipulation of some rich investors who wants to buy cryptocurrency in a very cheap price so that they can benefits again once the market price increases.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: maydna on July 01, 2018, 07:56:40 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think its true behind the speculation of price manipulation of some rich investors who wants to buy cryptocurrency in a very cheap price so that they can benefits again once the market price increases.

but unfortunately, we don't know how it could happen and how many people that manipulate the price. but one thing that we know that the price can go higher and lower because of people which lack knowledge about cryptocurrency that will be panic and they move the price and it looks like the price is being manipulated. but although it is true that the price manipulates, it is better for us to always check the price before we decide something.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: connesa on July 01, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
sad but true...i believe some big people holding a huge amounts can really do that,they can play the market they can manipulate the prices and the news also have a huge contribution with their fuds and fake news.so if the value was down they can easily buy more and ofcourse they also can pump it.easy money for them


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: xyzone on July 01, 2018, 10:30:58 AM
it's common in the crypto market. the price increases and it happens suddenly. I was surprised to see the market conditions that experienced an increase and decline in prices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: brotherwood12 on July 01, 2018, 11:19:19 AM
In my opinion , bitcoin price manipulation is possible to do , but hard  in the fact , need organization with huge rich people to do it , and have same idea to manipulate the price  , but who know ? we just can follow the wave


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bycocoricos on July 01, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
BTC price is probably somewhat harder to manipulate, mainly because of the daily trade volume it gets. However that's not to say that it doesn't happen.

There are plenty of whales that hold thousands of Bitcoins on their wallets. Remember what happened when that Mt. Gox trustee sold off 400 million USD worth of BTC? The price plummeted into the ground. That was as clear of a case of market manipulation as they get.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cherrymobile on July 01, 2018, 03:20:06 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
The first place, and the market will continue. I believe that bitcoin and technology, the future of cryptocurrency. I believe that bitcoin and technology, the market. I even its stabilized and it is to invest it was going through a new cryptocurrency that the market. I believe that this day of cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PlusOne88 on July 01, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
I am new to cryptocurrencies and I did not have any idea or proof that this had happened before. But given that there is such an investigation maybe it did have some bases to do it. If it happened today may be the probability is high for it to have happened before but was not just made public like what happened today.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Semosuchi Tesongrato on July 01, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
The whole market - forex, shares, crypto - is somehow "manipulated" by big players.

As small investors, we  are just like ants moving in a field where elephants are fighting.

All we can do is try  to not be crushed, and to understand in which direction the winning elephants move.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: newwest on July 01, 2018, 04:07:30 PM
it's common in the crypto market. the price increases and it happens suddenly. I was surprised to see the market conditions that experienced an increase and decline in prices.

The rise could also make the news as the falls does. The price overnight could increase and suddenly morning when you get up realizing that btc has risen by 2 or 3k $ and suddenly your portfolio has risen by % . So always keep holding the coins and you will egt the good returns.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Reid on July 01, 2018, 06:10:09 PM
sad but true...i believe some big people holding a huge amounts can really do that,they can play the market they can manipulate the prices and the news also have a huge contribution with their fuds and fake news.so if the value was down they can easily buy more and ofcourse they also can pump it.easy money for them

Yes it does happen and millionaires jumping in can make a good shake with the price specially with cheaper tokens.
Who can stop that? None. The problem will be low amount holders which will panic and decide to just sell it even with a loss. That is a shame for those tokens that have a real good project. They will lose everything just because of whales playing with the price.

They must really get in touch with them to at least make them see that a long term holding will be more profitable instead of just selling with little profits in their pocket.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Bitexpert2017 on July 01, 2018, 06:34:19 PM
Price manipulation is normal in the market of the cryptocurrencies because we can't deny that there are people who are wealthier than us, who have a lot of money compared to us so they are called as whales in the market which have the advantage in the market because of their money and the thing that we can do right now is to hold if we are stuck at a coin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: pantheraio on July 01, 2018, 09:25:28 PM
It seems unlikely that anyone can manipulate the bitcoin market price. Such a thing may be an opinion that is not based on facts that exist, and only creates negative impressions and doubts about bitcoin,


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: RockBar0 on July 01, 2018, 09:37:36 PM
it's common in the crypto market. the price increases and it happens suddenly. I was surprised to see the market conditions that experienced an increase and decline in prices.

The rise could also make the news as the falls does. The price overnight could increase and suddenly morning when you get up realizing that btc has risen by 2 or 3k $ and suddenly your portfolio has risen by % . So always keep holding the coins and you will egt the good returns.

The interesting thing about this market is that the profitability is great but the risk is also so that investors should consider and plan to allocate capital in a reasonable and effective way. Financial investment is an exciting way for investors to prepare their psychology.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: seven2smoke1 on July 01, 2018, 09:47:30 PM
In my opinion , bitcoin price manipulation is possible to do , but hard  in the fact , need organization with huge rich people to do it , and have same idea to manipulate the price  , but who know ? we just can follow the wave
Exactly, It's too hard to manipulate bitcoin because it have a large community and with a high potential, If anyone want to manipulate the price of btc, he should have thousands of btc to do that, and it's hard to find someone with this large amount of btc these days, I think big companies can do that, I talk about very rich companies not a small one.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Victorik on July 01, 2018, 10:05:38 PM
I personally believe there can be manipulation how do you explain heavy price swing? even when there want to be downward trend it should be gradual to some extent and not heavy downward trend and almost instant upward trend. Big whales at work, coalition of high yield network folks.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: pujarihema on July 01, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
Yes there are heavy manipulations in the bitcoin price. They are carried out by BIG whales who have thousands of Bitcoins. They can easily bring the price down by selling their bitcoins or even increase it by putting the big buying orders.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Punit kumar on July 01, 2018, 10:20:55 PM
As much as I understand about crypto industry, I believe price manipulations are possible in this industry by the big investors or say the whales who have a lot of Bitcoins which are enough to change the price of bitcoin if they want at any time.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Altero on July 01, 2018, 10:42:26 PM
As much as I understand about crypto industry, I believe price manipulations are possible in this industry by the big investors or say the whales who have a lot of Bitcoins which are enough to change the price of bitcoin if they want at any time.
We cant lift any possibilities of having that event inside.  It happens already outside crypto and it is already practice in here for many years since from the start. Whales have such power to manipulate others but can't control totally the entire market since we are in decentralized market.  Once government will regulate crypto,  that's the time we become a centralized market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: waichi on July 01, 2018, 10:55:10 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
possible because there are the presence of bigtime whales. It just sucks major cause they are actually contributing to the failure of bitcoin as currency. It all depends on fake orders, fake pumps and a lot of dumps, whales and cartels. This is not what we wanted. I hope that uS will take a good look into this.

Yes. Those rich people are the ones who try to manipulate the Bitcoin price. Since Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are unregulated, they take advantage of it. This is happening now. I hope the government can do something about it without making crypto market centralized.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Gab23 on July 02, 2018, 05:00:04 AM
manipulation price could happen at any time. Even in the market price, someone who has more money tried to control the stock market by a lot of money. When considering this and the fact that the size of cryptocurrnecy is more smaller that stock market, what you said could happen anyway


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: fcf1081 on July 02, 2018, 05:32:03 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think there is price manipulation, that there are really big people behind these price manipulation, that is why there is always changes in the market and is not just only because of the demand but also who manage to operate the movement of it all.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kisscoin on July 02, 2018, 06:37:39 AM
Fraud is possible in any area. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are not immune from such manipulations! Methods and techniques of fraud today are so sophisticated that it is even difficult to determine whether the fact of this illegal action or not..


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Angna27 on July 02, 2018, 03:27:02 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yeah I think this is possible, they manipulate in price to dump or pump, Some BIG Whales can manipulate the price of altcoins. But my question is, is this legal? they have money to buy more altcoins. They are businessman, businessman need profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Rambogae on July 02, 2018, 06:02:55 PM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin





If there is a Whale that wants to lower the bitcoin value, it will only release enough bitcoin in its ownership to the market once there is enough price to be affected and down. He will then sell and re-enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price resulting in more profits. Simply put is how price manipulation occurs.
Price manipulation can occur in bitcoin markets. This concept is done by the pope subtly.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BhuwanPujari on July 02, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
Whales can easily manipulate the price for their benefit at any point of time. It isn't really difficult if they have enough bitcoins and big amount of money.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Vineeta2october on July 02, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
Why not, it is easily possible. Big investors or say whales have enough bitcoins, if they want to decrease the price they'll just  put sell orders and if they want to increase it, they'll put high buy orders. Manipulation is the reason of large fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: awawo on July 02, 2018, 08:31:41 PM
Well price manipulation is very possible since bitcoin operate on demands and supply to determine it price whales can decide to invest heavily in bitcoin in other to influence the price and then cash out the gain making the market to become pump and dump ground, and I also read that there is now and agency that trace bitcoin transactions in order to monitor illegal movement of money.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: TRONTON on July 02, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin





If there is a Whale that wants to lower the bitcoin value, it will only release enough bitcoin in its ownership to the market once there is enough price to be affected and down. He will then sell and re-enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price resulting in more profits. Simply put is how price manipulation occurs.
Price manipulation can occur in bitcoin markets. This concept is done by the pope subtly.
yes, big investors are very influential on bitcoin price movements, in fact not only bitcoin,
all altcoin also must be greatly affected by the of big investors


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: oegarod on July 02, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin





If there is a Whale that wants to lower the bitcoin value, it will only release enough bitcoin in its ownership to the market once there is enough price to be affected and down. He will then sell and re-enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price resulting in more profits. Simply put is how price manipulation occurs.
Price manipulation can occur in bitcoin markets. This concept is done by the pope subtly.
yes, big investors are very influential on bitcoin price movements, in fact not only bitcoin,
all altcoin also must be greatly affected by the of big investors
As the cryptocurrencies were speculative, large volume investors easily manipulate the market. This is common around the cryptocurrency network, and specifically such manipulations will not be the same throughout. It is possible depending upon current market scenario. People fearing about manipulation should gain additional trust on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Whitly on July 02, 2018, 09:20:44 PM
Yes, I think it's more than possible, we can periodically see manipulation in altcoins with pumps and dumps with new coins or ICO tokens.  And a group of people with big money can do that to bitcoin as well by affecting on the news and other media resources and creating panic.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: JohnJarvis99 on July 02, 2018, 09:30:08 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Maybe it have control by someone who have a lot of bitcoin?


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: basty03 on July 02, 2018, 10:05:31 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I think there's a manipulation in bitcoin because money is involved here so many whales want to manipulate the market so they can get a good profit. And manipulation will never gone it comes to investment or trading.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: rasmusen on July 02, 2018, 11:41:59 PM
Since bitcoin has grown to the mainstream, it and people are in danger. For bitcoin is the manipulation of the price and for people it is scammers.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BaraxLo on July 03, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes there is an investigation going on to fish out those that are behind the price manipulation of a thing. The price of Bitcoin can be manipulated and is no surprise to me, even before I got in, I already knew that. Many even believes that what happens in 2017 was as a result of Bitcoin being manipulated and these people that are doing it are doing so to make more money and rip others off.

There are also people who see it as an opportunity too. Miners would like to see the price of Bitcoin go high which means they will be making extra money for the same rate of work. By the way, the third rule in Bitcoin says ‘there are no rules’.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: 2start on July 03, 2018, 07:28:14 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I've heard, when the beginning of the rise of Bitcoin there has been price manipulation, whether true or false I do not know.
I've also read that Coinmarketcap used to manipulate data, that's what I know, but I forget where I read it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: boksoon on July 03, 2018, 08:11:26 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?



Price manipulation is applicable for other Crypto Currency but here in bitcoin I think no one can manipulate this, we admit that there is one group who built in bitcoin but when it comes to market price value only Investor can make this movable price that views automatically in Block Chain market cap through virtual digital System.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: alfs75 on July 03, 2018, 08:32:17 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Maybe this speculation have an relevant  thats theres something manipulation of price in bitcoin in the market,but the question is what is our proof,thats theres something magic  that they created in price of bitcoin,othewise if we should not proper evidence to proof this kind of allegation,maybe this all our doubt  would turn into nothing.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Sled on July 03, 2018, 08:46:08 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes there is an investigation going on to fish out those that are behind the price manipulation of a thing. The price of Bitcoin can be manipulated and is no surprise to me, even before I got in, I already knew that. Many even believes that what happens in 2017 was as a result of Bitcoin being manipulated and these people that are doing it are doing so to make more money and rip others off.

There are also people who see it as an opportunity too. Miners would like to see the price of Bitcoin go high which means they will be making extra money for the same rate of work. By the way, the third rule in Bitcoin says ‘there are no rules’.
The price spike that happened in 2017 was not a price manipulation it is a panic buying situation where people are afraid of missing out bitcoin and they are all getting into the market like there is no other chance. Price manipulation is just occur when there is a cheap coin that they can manipulate by buying bulk and selling bulk also to make huge movements.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: maydna on July 03, 2018, 08:59:17 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I've heard, when the beginning of the rise of Bitcoin there has been price manipulation, whether true or false I do not know.
I've also read that Coinmarketcap used to manipulate data, that's what I know, but I forget where I read it.

I think there is any of price manipulation that is happening in the cryptocurrency because we know that there are a people that have a big amount of bitcoin and they can easily to moves the price to the level that they want. but they cannot always do this because they need to follow with the market wants and they will be wise to make a decision. but unfortunately, we still don't know who is the people which can do price manipulate and it is better to follow the trends that are happening in the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cryptohoodz on July 03, 2018, 09:27:37 AM
Crypto is not regulated, so yes there is price manipulation. Most exchanges are not regulated by regulators, so they can screw with the data and get away with it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: julzcoinbit on July 03, 2018, 09:38:33 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes there is an investigation going on to fish out those that are behind the price manipulation of a thing. The price of Bitcoin can be manipulated and is no surprise to me, even before I got in, I already knew that. Many even believes that what happens in 2017 was as a result of Bitcoin being manipulated and these people that are doing it are doing so to make more money and rip others off.

There are also people who see it as an opportunity too. Miners would like to see the price of Bitcoin go high which means they will be making extra money for the same rate of work. By the way, the third rule in Bitcoin says ‘there are no rules’.
The price spike that happened in 2017 was not a price manipulation it is a panic buying situation where people are afraid of missing out bitcoin and they are all getting into the market like there is no other chance. Price manipulation is just occur when there is a cheap coin that they can manipulate by buying bulk and selling bulk also to make huge movements.
Maybe, In my own perceptions It will be called an price  manipulation when you feel like the value meant to be fallen Its value. Just like bitcoin price, It will drastically falls when some big whales dump his funds and despite that they will Invest again when they think many panic seller dump their coin all of a sudden.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mr.nby on July 03, 2018, 10:34:16 AM
It is certainly possible to influence the price in some way. Even if it is to be done, it needs a person with very big money or an organization that will be able to do it. Another way is to manipulate information to trigger an appropriate response on the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: KorakPawon on July 03, 2018, 10:50:57 AM
yes maybe because in this world nothing is impossible, especially now modern-day all-round technology for the smart people is not a difficult thing, but hopefully this problem soon solved.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cah ndablek on July 03, 2018, 11:17:12 AM
Price manipulation is only done by someone who does not have pity on other merchants because of the massive price manipulation the possibility of earning every time becomes more difficult and requires extra patience from the merchant.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: syaripudin on July 03, 2018, 11:24:14 AM
although many people say there is a price manipulation I do not think there is a strong enough proof of what they assume. and in my opinion this is purely from market demand and if anything says about price manipulation maybe it's caused because there are some players who have big capital so they can buy bitcoin with a very large amount. so in my opinion this is purely out of market demand.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ianbadz2000 on July 03, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Anywhere in the games, gambling there are manipulation how much money talk, like bitcoin there are organization  and big whales who are easily manipulate the value of cryptocurrency in the market so in the end they earn some this is what we called games of generals...


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mjaranzasu on July 03, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
Anywhere in the games, gambling there are manipulation how much money talk, like bitcoin there are organization  and big whales who are easily manipulate the value of cryptocurrency in the market so in the end they earn some this is what we called games of generals...

You are right, I agree, in this kind of game whales are getting huge profit and small new investors are losing funds, this cycle will never stop and the manipulations will continue.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: SIHIN on July 03, 2018, 12:02:41 PM
although many people say there is a price manipulation I do not think there is a strong enough proof of what they assume. and in my opinion this is purely from market demand and if anything says about price manipulation maybe it's caused because there are some players who have big capital so they can buy bitcoin with a very large amount. so in my opinion this is purely out of market demand.
true, I think there is also no price manipulation, because the price rises usually due to the number of buyers on the market, and when it goes down a lot of people sell at a certain time like during big holidays. so obviously there is no price engineering in crypto. if any emang lot of rich people who teased price and can also a country that deliberately sell their assets to profit.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Cagus on July 03, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Maybe...? But for For now, this is yet another reason to expect cryptocurrencies to continue to drift lower.  They are losing support and more and more of the issues with them are being exposed - further slowing the rate of adoption. Even knowing that manipulation occurs, whether indictable or not, doesn't mean I can't get bullish cryptocurrencies again, but certainly not right now.  I would be more confident the market can weather these times of headlines if crypto had been able to rally after this year.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Glorypaasa on July 03, 2018, 06:14:14 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
It is possible mostly whales are doing this because after they sold their bitcoin at the peak price they going to make a scenario that can cause FUD and the outcome people will become panic then the whale will buy again at the low price, So if we know what to do in this kind of situations for sure we will become victorious at the end.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: korkyqq on July 03, 2018, 07:11:41 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

This is very much possible. The stock market is always affected by price manipulations. Up until now I haven't heard of a potential manipulation with the Bitcoin, but if we are able to make an thorough analysis in the past 10 years there is a big possibility we'll find evidence of a suspicious activity. The fact, the bitcoin is traded on cryptic markets can raise the suspicion of price manipulation activities.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jessequick on July 03, 2018, 09:03:27 PM
Maybe, the existence of unlimited bitcoin rules, everyone is free for his actions against bitcoin, unlike a stock or commodity transaction. We just wait for the next action


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: saadat6868 on July 04, 2018, 10:31:09 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Of course manipulations are possible and they are present here,  but anyway it doesn't make a difference while you are just trading or making money for yourself. It is on the level of idea.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Lexurdania on July 04, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation can be happen. As far i know, its always happen in stocks market but in cryptomarket, i think i never heard it. But if i think price manipulation can be happen if some one using large amount capital and i think that can be done by financial instituation


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jonatuzc on July 04, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
of course its possible. finance is influenced by human psychology. The easiest way to influence people is to manipulate them. speculation is the biggest weapon to attract investors.
At the moment, some are buying from the cheapest level. they will make good speculation and raise prices later on. and they will sell what they buy cheaply on their hands at a high price.
Price manipulation is important at this stage because the market has taken too much time to recover and still it is on the same page so it needs change and for that change big investments are required.

After big investment the demand rate will improve and will increase to satisfy the expectations of users because these situations are not suitable for those who invested on value higher than the current value so they are in loss for which big investments is the solution to manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Btcmaeng18 on July 04, 2018, 12:25:44 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Maybe before there was a manipulation of prices, but now bitcoin or altcoin has a concrete foundation and security platform I think manipulation of prices will not occur.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on July 04, 2018, 01:22:56 PM
 Didn`t heard about Criminal manipulations but we all are familiar with whales manipulations, when the big rich guys would manipulate buy some levers the price in order to buy or sell to their benefit


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: reinielle26 on July 04, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Well, there is a big possibility for price manipulation. However, only those who has the power/capability can do so. Although there is increase and decrease of value, in my opinion it has both good impact. During its high value we can trade/sell and when it becomes lower we can invest/buy crypto.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: liivii on July 04, 2018, 01:57:54 PM
Yes I'm guessing there is a possibility of price manipulation especially on Bitcoin because of its price at the market, there are many holders around the globe and those who have the money and power are I think the ones that are capable of doing the manipulation. Other possible manipulators are the miners because as we all know if there are no miners on a specific coin that coin would easily die in couple of months.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: dark08 on July 04, 2018, 02:03:12 PM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin

I agree to you sir since theres a lot of big whale in the market price manipulation is high possible thats why its so hard to know if the price can be pump up or dump, your lucky if you buy when big whale starting to pump up the altcoin and sorry if you buy when price starting to falling down.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ochusol on July 04, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
Bitcoin price manipulation is possible. But this can only be possible by the whales or those who hold a reasonable quantity of the coin. But I really do not know how such investigation is possible considering the fact that you are really not sure who the whales are. Moreover, there is no real proof or substantial evidence about this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: 0xBitcoins on July 05, 2018, 09:58:52 AM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin





If there is a Whale that wants to lower the bitcoin value, it will only release enough bitcoin in its ownership to the market once there is enough price to be affected and down. He will then sell and re-enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price resulting in more profits. Simply put is how price manipulation occurs.
Price manipulation can occur in bitcoin markets. This concept is done by the pope subtly.
It is good and appreciable to investigate such manipulation because it is not good for the future of bitcoin. The market cap will decrease due to non-investment. The demand will reduce and thus the price will never go up. It is very serious matter. Whales manipulate the market according to their wishes and this they are holding the whole market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: weiweianll on July 05, 2018, 01:23:23 PM
The cryptocurrency is different from the stock market. The major shareholders need additional supervision and review, and the cryptocurrency cannot be supervised by the government because of its occultity and decentralization!
A small number of people holding a lot of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are easy to make a lot of buying and selling in the market, causing price fluctuations, manipulating the market of cryptocurrencies!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Chupacabras on July 05, 2018, 05:43:22 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I'm thinking that some of big investors and holders can affect the price but this is not going on everyday and I think that the price is not under somebody's thin control system. None of the guys can not control the market in every step that it takes.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ValerieBTC on July 06, 2018, 06:49:09 AM
it's common in the crypto market. the price increases and it happens suddenly. I was surprised to see the market conditions that experienced an increase and decline in prices.
Yeah it is possible and exists here in this market. Manipulation is very bad for the growth of bitcoin, because the price is according to the well of big investors, and this thing is big disaster for new and small investors. I am waiting for the time when price manipulation will be controlled and the market will be fair and according to the market cap and not according to manipulators.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cahbagus555 on July 06, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Bitcoin market cap more than 100billions dollar and its need a large capital to manipulate the price. I dont know is there any manipulation but i think cryptocurrency market is fair market


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: dams87 on July 06, 2018, 08:47:37 AM
yes bitcoin is very vulnerable to abuse because bitcoin is very difficult to monitor by the government and can not predict its usage, and that is also the reason some countries banned the circulation of bitcoin because it is often used as a means of payment for a crime.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: keeee on July 06, 2018, 08:49:05 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Basically, if you really have a big volume of coin you might affect the price of the coin in the market. I believe that it is not manipulation but jist a short term effect on the coin's value. Surely in no time tge price will eventually recover and continue to go on it's way. Changes might happen but no really haa the full control over it.
Its not, no one can manipulate it, price of it depends on its demand. Even government cant manipulate it. Maybe the information that you get was wrong. Because bitcoin was decentralized. If there is someone who can manipulate the price I think the price will not go that down this time. Because they will surely want it to increase. And people wont let that happen, because many investors will lose their interest as they found out that someone was controlling the price of it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Voidcrafter on July 06, 2018, 11:33:03 AM
I am sure that many large players in the cryptocurrency market manipulate the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. It is profitable for them to manage prices up and down. Having 1000 or more bitcoins manipulation by 5-10% brings them 500 000 or more thousand dollars. It is possible for them and small money, but they do it every day. How many of these deals do you think they can make per month??? 30-50? This can bring them 15-25 million dollars a month. That's a lot of money. So don't underestimate the whales in the market. They have a lot of power.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Xising on July 06, 2018, 11:49:13 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I don't think that has happened before. I say that because for one to control the price point of Bitcoin, then they should have, in their holdings, a very massive amount of Bitcoin, and that in itself is quite impossible to pull off since many people have already hoarding and holding their Bitcoins in the recent years knowing the trend that Bitcoin follows, especially in the past previous years. Most people who have Bitcoins in their holdings don't intend to get rid off it until such time when it reaches its peak value per year. I think most of the things that somehow affect the value of Bitcoin are propaganda because even news somehow have a hand to convince people to support cryptocurrecies or not.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jonval21 on July 06, 2018, 12:15:55 PM
in cryptocurrencies due decentraization the manipulation of prices is very easy to do, people with a huge amount of bitcoin can make prices go up or down easy.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on July 06, 2018, 12:59:43 PM
At present, there is no conclusive evidence that large investors are manipulating the price. Nevertheless, lately there are more rumors about one trader who has practically unlimited means and due to this can effectively manipulate the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: drm on July 06, 2018, 01:17:10 PM
in cryptocurrencies due decentraization the manipulation of prices is very easy to do, people with a huge amount of bitcoin can make prices go up or down easy.

It's even worse, coins that pay to get listed on certain exchanges just pay an additional fee and get trading assistance from these exchanges.
They will keep the price and volume up for you as long as you pay them.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Ranly123 on July 06, 2018, 01:22:45 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I think yes. With many rich and powerful people around the world, it is possible that they are behind this so called price manipulation that some people say exist.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Gudhal Untu on July 06, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
Many people claim that bitcoin prices are from manipulation, but I'm sure that what happens with bitcoin is a natural thing because bitcoin prices in different markets are the same or not so different.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: owmivmen on July 06, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
Your thinking may be true but I remain confident in my decision to invest and hold my assets for the long term. I do not care if the price can be manipulated. which I see the growth of crypto enthusiasts every year has increased.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gowobonyok on July 06, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
could be because bitcoin prices are strongly influenced by supply and demands. when demands increase then price will increase. and that make demands could increase is the factor of people who buy increases as well. if the opposite happens, then the price will fall.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cryptoalfs76 on July 06, 2018, 01:52:56 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Thats only a news and maybe that you read is a fake news because there are times they want to make a false accusation in order to ruined the reputation of cryptocurrency system,because i've cannot heard and read that kind of news feed happen now in crypto world because everythings happen on crypto price would depend only the needs in the market,otherwise we could not set aside thats kinds of situation,thats theres manipulation of prices.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: crazymelons12 on July 06, 2018, 02:17:12 PM
It could probably happen as they set the prices and we don't know what actually is going on in the market exchange. As of today heard the same investigation so it might have happened or there might be a probable cause for doing so.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: musdafakfl on July 06, 2018, 02:21:51 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

It is possible to manipulate the reason that there is no control in this market. Needless to say, this situation requires a lot of capital to make it happen, but when a group of large investors come together this is not possible. For that reason, I think that you should not make serious investments unless you have enough knowledge and experience.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: cheann20 on July 06, 2018, 02:31:19 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Well, for me the price manipulation is common to all of us especially to my cobitcoiner, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and who have a data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens. Then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: webdevmastery on July 06, 2018, 03:18:41 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation towards cryptocurrency is not possible because it was depending on the supply and demand but sometimes there are hackers who can actually change the prices in the market and it affects people's decisions, just like the alleged news were korea hack the live market price and take advantage of the moment.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bizarro on July 07, 2018, 09:02:59 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I don’t know about the criminals, but for sure, the whales are manipulating this market hardly. The concept of cryptocurrencies prices is positive to being manipulated, so they are doing that.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kevpantof on July 09, 2018, 07:37:58 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Even if they are investigating I don’t think they will be able to discover those that are behind the price manipulation of a thing in bitcoin. I’m saying so cause they are all pretty good I’m covering their tracks so that they won’t get caught by anyone. They don’t even buy coins traditionally like we do– buying from exchangers, and they don’t get noticed,  no one knows when the money goes in and out.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: irinna on July 09, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
I think we know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media. But i bilive what it posible!


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kisscoin on July 09, 2018, 11:43:53 AM
Manipulation is an integral part of our lives. Crooks they are everywhere) And tryptomer and cryptocurrencies in particular are immune to their manipulation. Artificial manipulation is possible even by the release of false economic news, there are many ways, the main thing is that the currency can withstand such attacks.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: almaroof on July 09, 2018, 11:57:04 AM
I wish there will be a way to solve this menace of price manipulation in cryptocurrency,  I lost all my funds Binance when SYS coins was manipulated


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Panpan66L on July 09, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yes, if the criminals are heading around 3% to 5% of all the transactions I don't think that they are influencing really hard. In my opinion market is depending more on the law creation processes that are taking place in the government right now.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on July 09, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
I don't hear something about manipulating by criminals. I seen it can't be real because we are all in the same situation using bitcoin wallets and making a transaction. So it just a news, nothing else. Be patient and wait for a good price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: bitlind on July 09, 2018, 02:20:39 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
In my opinion all of this market consist from manipulations, like FUD, fake news, whales agenda, we all are just like a chess figures, but anyway I believe that we can take our profit from that.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: burakdat on July 09, 2018, 02:29:05 PM
Nope the bitcoin market price is being dictated by the power of the investors around the world which changes the market price from time to time depeding on its demand. As we all know as the demand for bitcoin grows so does the market price that will follow. And technically it could be difficult to manipulate since it has a system that automatically do the update from time to time. Well manipulation could happen if a certain individual has a huge holdings that will surely make bitcoin to move.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: BhuwanPujari on July 10, 2018, 07:32:37 AM

Price manipulation often comes from the very wealthy, also known as whales. Whales manipulate the cryptocurrency market in their favour when they want.
Whales are people or possibly a group of people working together to hold a large percentage of that coin and can use this to their advantage to manipulate the price of a coin to the desired price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: fabrizoc on July 10, 2018, 08:21:42 AM
Well price manipulation is very possible since bitcoin operate on demands and supply to determine it price whales can decide to invest heavily in bitcoin in other to influence the price and then cash out the gain making the market to become pump and dump ground, and I also read that there is now and agency that trace bitcoin transactions in order to monitor illegal movement of money.
Up till now we have seen downfalls and high jumps of the value and have been going forward with these situations. Now we are currently in this low market with a little improvement from yesterday as the value increased from 6k dollar to 6.3k dollar and then up to 6.5k dollar today morning we come up with this news. This is still a low market and we can shift with it if we look for big investments.



Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: kissme09 on July 10, 2018, 08:25:38 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Crypto is like a stock, but the big man manipulates its price. Without the manipulation of values, we can not become rich like the present. If everything becomes stable and the level of fluctuations are low, it will make us look like clowns that are hard to find after makeup.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Abu Shadow on July 10, 2018, 08:46:02 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Bitcoin market cap more than 100billions dollar and its need a large capital to manipulate the price. I dont know is there any manipulation but i think cryptocurrency market is fair market
How about those whales are they not capable to manipulate the price? Yeah maybe some whales has the right amount of bitcoin that can change the price down and to add some bad news about crypto, the quick hands will follow to make a panic selling.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on July 10, 2018, 08:53:06 AM
price manipulation is common, and this is often done by those who have a lot of money and have data from bitcoin buyers by desperately placing lots of holder to sell their tokens and then buy as much bitcoin to reap huge profits when prices rise drastically
and this is a fact for old players in bitcoin

 Price manipulation has been in the market for the long period of time. It has been done by the whales behind the names of the company which where not as known to everybody. Yet, in the crypto market trading we don't know or no one knows how do they have done such price manipulation in the trading market. I would not entertain such idea of price manipulation for as long as i am confident with my investment, then they can do every thing they want...


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on July 10, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Price manipulation is normal in the market of the cryptocurrencies because we can't deny that there are people who are wealthier than us, who have a lot of money compared to us so they are called as whales in the market which have the advantage in the market because of their money and the thing that we can do right now is to hold if we are stuck at a coin.

I agree with you. If you don't know how the market works, it will be very difficult for you to earn something using a long time in investing. Holding is the best way to get profit in the future.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: stellgod on July 11, 2018, 06:52:05 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Yeah I think this is possible, they manipulate in price to dump or pump, Some BIG Whales can manipulate the price of altcoins. But my question is, is this legal? they have money to buy more altcoins. They are businessman, businessman need profit.
No doubt in this. There are many pole and groups and organizations and even countries who are called whales. They are operating in a way that no one can trace them out. They are manipulating the prices every other day. Things are not that much under their control when we talk abbot bitcoin but yes they have got enough hold on the market. So yeah good luck to everyone, save yourself.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: sana54210 on July 11, 2018, 07:19:17 AM
although many people say there is a price manipulation I do not think there is a strong enough proof of what they assume. and in my opinion this is purely from market demand and if anything says about price manipulation maybe it's caused because there are some players who have big capital so they can buy bitcoin with a very large amount. so in my opinion this is purely out of market demand.
There is nothing like pity in the business world and in the market. Every one wants to earn the maximum and there is left no space for pity. You would never love to share your billion dollars with the people in the town.

In the same way, those who hold huge stacks of Bitcoin can manipulate price for their own interest. This is of course one of the disadvantages for the users but it can be tackled only if the users follow the rules strictly and do not sell when the price falls. Some holding few thousand Bitcoin will not be able to affect the market with people holding millions of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: aliichaudhary on July 11, 2018, 02:20:12 PM
The US Department of Justice (DOJ) has investigated the manipulation of harha, he reportedly has launched a criminal investigation to determine whether wholesalers manipulate prices of Bitcoin, Ether and possibly other cryptocurrencies. The illicit trade tactics investigated by DOJ include spoofing and trade washes


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dudeperfect on July 11, 2018, 02:34:24 PM
To be honest, even though we have a huge market capital and user base, we still don't have the mass maturity which is required in the crypto industry. That's the reason why panic selling waves take place if the market. Big whales and institutional investors take the benefit of this situation and try to manipulate the price and pressurise a layman investor indirectly.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: spngebob on July 11, 2018, 02:49:16 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation towards cryptocurrency is not possible because it was depending on the supply and demand but sometimes there are hackers who can actually change the prices in the market and it affects people's decisions, just like the alleged news were korea hack the live market price and take advantage of the moment.
I have read that bitcoin's price was manipulated at late 2017 with USDT, I don't know should we trust information like that one but it is possible to manipulate every market not just crypto market.
Bitcoin went to $20000 in very short time, and it crashed so fast so market is either manipulated or fomo investors created bubble.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: jakezyrus on July 11, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation towards cryptocurrency is not possible because it was depending on the supply and demand but sometimes there are hackers who can actually change the prices in the market and it affects people's decisions, just like the alleged news were korea hack the live market price and take advantage of the moment.
I have read that bitcoin's price was manipulated at late 2017 with USDT, I don't know should we trust information like that one but it is possible to manipulate every market not just crypto market.
Bitcoin went to $20000 in very short time, and it crashed so fast so market is either manipulated or fomo investors created bubble.

cryptos are always manipulated and it does not only happen on 2017 or any year because manipulation are always happening all the time . and like you said earlier , cryptos arent only the one that is being manipulated because almost all kind of investment there is always a manipulation involved .

so the point is we cannot possibly avoid those manipulation but we can use it as an advantage in order to turn the tides

 lets say they manipulate the entire crypto to go down , so the best way to do is to buy at the dip . but if they manipulate the market in an opposite side, then the best thing that you can do is to sell in order to earn a profit .


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: laravuemaster on July 11, 2018, 02:58:44 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

In my own opinion, there is no price manipulations in cryptocurrency but there are alleged hackers before in the news that cam from korea who is actually changing the live market price of bitcoins and take advantage of it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: akram143 on July 11, 2018, 03:00:28 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Price manipulation towards cryptocurrency is not possible because it was depending on the supply and demand but sometimes there are hackers who can actually change the prices in the market and it affects people's decisions, just like the alleged news were korea hack the live market price and take advantage of the moment.
I have read that bitcoin's price was manipulated at late 2017 with USDT, I don't know should we trust information like that one but it is possible to manipulate every market not just crypto market.
Bitcoin went to $20000 in very short time, and it crashed so fast so market is either manipulated or fomo investors created bubble.

The price changing will nor in our hands but we need to watch it carefully for our future if we missed any chance then it will be very tough.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: resty on July 11, 2018, 03:00:58 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I just heard that this can be possible because of those big whales that we don't even know.maybe a big company or a person. However, Im not afraid for I have also control with my investments.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: breathlessz on July 11, 2018, 03:46:02 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I just heard that this can be possible because of those big whales that we don't even know.maybe a big company or a person. However, Im not afraid for I have also control with my investments.
therefore we must learn to read movement of whales, it is hard to know, because we do not know them. but we can predict from big news in circulation, so we can guess where they are going


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: anntlevel on July 12, 2018, 08:31:48 AM
The cryptocurrency is different from the stock market. The major shareholders need additional supervision and review, and the cryptocurrency cannot be supervised by the government because of its occultity and decentralization!
A small number of people holding a lot of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are easy to make a lot of buying and selling in the market, causing price fluctuations, manipulating the market of cryptocurrencies!
Our main focus in on the market demand which is the root of price to go high or to go down so we have loaded our weapons in low market and now want to see the up going price in the upcoming days and this manipulation is very important. Manipulation is only possible if big investments take place which will increase the demand rate and will activate the price of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: patarfweefwee on July 12, 2018, 08:48:55 AM
Because of the unregulated nature of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, price manipulation is very likely. This is why stock markets have brokers. If there is price manipulations then the brokers get the blame. On the other hand, Bitcoin doesn't so the people themselves buy and sell whenever they want.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Andrew S on July 12, 2018, 09:43:02 AM
Well, the more people invest in bitcoin, the more expensive it becomes, if they start selling then it falls.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: napi on July 12, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
price manipulation seems to be the case, usually whales with a lot of trading capital and money will make the price of bitcoin and cryptocurrency move.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Kris34 on July 12, 2018, 11:19:36 AM
Any money is manipulated for any profit.  Everyone knows this.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: SkustaClee on July 12, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Do you really think that there is no manipulation happening in the cryptocurrency market? At the beginning, the manipulation is happening. The whales have the power to influence the value of a cryptocurrency. The pumps and dumps are the effect of manipulation in the cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Harry1v on July 12, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
If criminals' BTC is sold in large quantities, it will definitely affect the price of BTC in the market, because criminals must have a large number of BTC, which will bring adverse factors to the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Rrtt on July 12, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?



Yes i believe that the rise and fall of the market  are the result of manipulations, whales are the reason behind it, they are very powerful investors that we dont even know, manipulation of the prise is really possible.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Bakemat on July 12, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

In my own opinion, the will not find anything about price manipulations because bitcoins value is based on supply and demand so the price will always increase if people will keep on investing.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: gabmen on July 13, 2018, 04:59:52 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

In my own opinion, the will not find anything about price manipulations because bitcoins value is based on supply and demand so the price will always increase if people will keep on investing.

Wow really? You don't see any signs of manipulation here? If it were just a simple case of demand and supply then we probably wouldn't be in this bear market for more than half of 2018 since people would buy in bulks. Someone who carries enough coin can and probably will take advantage of it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: forbesmining on July 13, 2018, 10:31:34 AM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin


Manipulation are very bad in all. But it is reality, that some people want to make lower the price on the market to buy coins.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: robotrobert on July 17, 2018, 04:51:14 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
I don’t know about the criminals, but for sure, the whales are manipulating this market hardly. The concept of cryptocurrencies prices is positive to being manipulated, so they are doing that.
Market of the Bitcoin suffered with downfalls and stability somewhere but for a very little time and then becomes unstable. The market can shape perfectly with big investments only if people having more knowledge about the market get success here to lead big investments till the end of the market then the market will gain strong support and will manipulate with this act.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: checkmatesir on July 19, 2018, 07:26:05 AM
We cannot say that there is a price manipulation. We know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media.
Yeah I also admit that price manipulation is possible and the controllers should think about it seriously because it is the question of bitcoins future. If the manipulation doesn’t stop small investors will never invest in bitcoin because of the huge dips in the price. Nobody wants to lose his money so easily. Price stability will improve the investors trust.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Semaj123 on July 19, 2018, 08:07:26 AM
We cannot say that there is a price manipulation. We know how the volatile the bitcoin value. We cannot assure or if there are way to manipulate the the price or the value of bitcoin. We must have a proof whether they are manipulating or not. Lets not be to dependent on news or even on social media.
Yeah I also admit that price manipulation is possible and the controllers should think about it seriously because it is the question of bitcoins future. If the manipulation doesn’t stop small investors will never invest in bitcoin because of the huge dips in the price. Nobody wants to lose his money so easily. Price stability will improve the investors trust.


This issue was already been tackled many times and still there is no enough evidence to show. All are still in speculations and I think we crypto users are the ones who contributed about the effect of its price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: CryptoGuro1 on July 19, 2018, 09:58:39 AM
This entire space is manipulated by our large whale investor friends, it is something that will not change until we have regulation within the space, untill then its the wild west and allows us to make great returns


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: katrimans on July 20, 2018, 07:05:39 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Bitcoin market cap more than 100billions dollar and its need a large capital to manipulate the price. I dont know is there any manipulation but i think cryptocurrency market is fair market
How about those whales are they not capable to manipulate the price? Yeah maybe some whales has the right amount of bitcoin that can change the price down and to add some bad news about crypto, the quick hands will follow to make a panic selling.
You know you are right with your concept. But here on this platform, there comes so many people who never know what they are talking about. They assume they have got enough information to share here and when newbies see that info, they often get confused and they should be. Because different opinions regarding one thing are here so how they don’t get confuse.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: goodluck0319 on July 22, 2018, 06:21:03 AM
funds carefully enter the cryptocurrency market, in order not to shake the glass of prices. but we will learn about this later, when there will be growth. and you will see clearly that it was everywhere and happens here


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: shesheboy on July 22, 2018, 10:17:35 AM
This entire space is manipulated by our large whale investor friends, it is something that will not change until we have regulation within the space, untill then its the wild west and allows us to make great returns

Entire? no i dont think so.  Whales can only manipulate a certain percent but they cannot totally control the whole market of cryptos because the overall total value of cryptos is verry huge and whales cannot possibly buy or sell all the coins at once .

Though i agree that regulation can somehow help the value to go stabilize but i dont think that manipulation will be stopped already .

Manipulation in my opinion isnt also bad but rather it is beneficial to us because with manipulation , we can possibly buy and sell cryptos at our own desired price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: abstractednerve on July 22, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?
Although the report can not confirm price manipulation, it indicates a suspicious pattern. Some bitcoin charts within a few days look very unnatural though prices can not be predicted when it will rise when it will go down but the obsolescence seen from some new coins that make bitcoin demand soaring.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: mr.nby on July 22, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
in cryptocurrencies due decentraization the manipulation of prices is very easy to do, people with a huge amount of bitcoin can make prices go up or down easy.

Market manipulation seems to be possible with sufficiently large amounts of cash. Then you can influence the volume of supply and demand. And this in turn influences the decisions of those smaller investors who react emotionally to market movements.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Kiweikoo on July 23, 2018, 06:53:51 AM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

I just heard that this can be possible because of those big whales that we don't even know.maybe a big company or a person. However, Im not afraid for I have also control with my investments.
therefore we must learn to read movement of whales, it is hard to know, because we do not know them. but we can predict from big news in circulation, so we can guess where they are going
You are right and we all know better that only buying rate is the key to step in to high market in the future days so more investments will result in better future and incase if the buying rate reduces then the future days will be the same as the current time. Market manipulation in positive of upward direction is only possible if we invest and bring a huge amount of investment here in the Bitcoin’s market right now.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: checkmatesir on July 23, 2018, 06:56:45 PM
Recent bitcoin manipulation as well as crypto coins has always been the topic of many people's comments. If the national currency has a form of money laundering, bitcoins and crypto are widely seen as manipulating prices in non- France is taking advantage of bitcoin





If there is a Whale that wants to lower the bitcoin value, it will only release enough bitcoin in its ownership to the market once there is enough price to be affected and down. He will then sell and re-enter the market and buy more at a lower price and get ready to sell at a higher price resulting in more profits. Simply put is how price manipulation occurs.
Price manipulation can occur in bitcoin markets. This concept is done by the pope subtly.
Pricemanipulation is a big problem especially for new investors. Those who are aware of price manipulation do not invest in bitcoin because they know that they will never make money if these whales are there in the market. Many investoes withdrawn their investment due to price manipulation. The controllers should think seriously about market manipulation.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Rizky Aditya on July 24, 2018, 07:22:24 AM
I think it is not manipulated a lot at all. I think it will be manipulated a lot more than this very soon.
"Whales" we have right now are incomparable to the whales thats coming in. People from wall street and those people are getting in with BILLIONS at a time. When that happens we will have a proper manipulated market for the likes of those big guys and than you can talk about the manipulation made to the market.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: thresher on July 27, 2018, 05:39:57 PM
In my opinion , bitcoin price manipulation is possible to do , but hard  in the fact , need organization with huge rich people to do it , and have same idea to manipulate the price  , but who know ? we just can follow the wave
Yeah I tis right big investors manipulate the price and such small investors. They have spread a net around the investors and when they catch large number of investors they fix a price for selling or buying. When they have huge quantity of bitcoin they will increase the price and when the price increases they sell their coins for higher price to collect huge profits.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ausbit on July 28, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
This entire space is manipulated by our large whale investor friends, it is something that will not change until we have regulation within the space, untill then its the wild west and allows us to make great returns
That is like hitting the bull’s eyes. The large investors have this power to manipulate the price and this is actually a miss use of power. But it is like a monopoly situation created by the Whales and this is what they do it for their own interest.

Until we have regulations in the crypto currencies, we would keep on getting the price manipulated. Also the investors’ behavior can reduce the effect of Whales activity by making wise moves in the red market.



Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: CoinFoxs on July 28, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
There are some group of investors who manipulate prices of bitcoin and altcoins but in US a group of officers formed to investigate and monitor those who are doing price manipulation this is the reason why bitcoid dropped. There is no doubt in it that people are doing price manipulation, these people are playing with coins when the want they doing pumping and when the want they doin dumping. Due to their huge investment no one will stop them but now there people from different countries start accepting bitcoin at government so this time we will get some positive vibes from crypto world.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: thresher on August 11, 2018, 07:11:44 AM
I think it is not manipulated a lot at all. I think it will be manipulated a lot more than this very soon.
"Whales" we have right now are incomparable to the whales thats coming in. People from wall street and those people are getting in with BILLIONS at a time. When that happens we will have a proper manipulated market for the likes of those big guys and than you can talk about the manipulation made to the market.
In my point of view market has been manipulated by big investors and that is the reason that the price is more volatile,  because they decide the price according to their well. Manipulation is a big problem in crypto world and due to these new investors afraid to put their money in crypto and especially in bitcoin, because nobody wants to lose his money.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Dingdong7 on October 29, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
I read that they are investigating criminal price manipulations over Bitcoin. Manipulation of prices is really possible ? This happened before ?

Basically, if you really have a big volume of coin you might affect the price of the coin in the market. I believe that it is not manipulation but jist a short term effect on the coin's value. Surely in no time tge price will eventually recover and continue to go on it's way. Changes might happen but no really haa the full control over it.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: Adriano2010 on October 30, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
As we can see bitcoin and cryptocoins price is always go up and down, and is better to see as it is and why not make a profit when this happens. I think there is manipulation and also some people are scared when they see the price goes down, and sell coins even if there not was manipulation, but yes sometimes manipulation is on the way.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: PalindromemordnilaP on November 07, 2018, 03:20:34 AM
As i know, the cryptocurrency being volatile by nature can rise and fall all throughout the year and that's basically based on the supply and demand. Whales and other big volume hodlers of bitcoin are also known price manipulator of crypto price.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ngacengan on November 07, 2018, 04:21:11 AM
price manipulation often occurs and there are many people who want to make the price of bitcoin fall and immediately go back up because of price manipulation, so you should be careful when trading bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: raidarksword on November 07, 2018, 04:32:23 AM
Some accusations had been thrown out to big investors and exchange platforms but nothing has been to really proved it or whatsoever to clarify all that but i believe that big factor is always the volatility of bitcoin and it's inevitable. That's the main reason why bitcoin's price is not stable and because of that it scares some weak hands investors were panic selling because they might loss profit for that reason.


Title: Re: Price manipulation
Post by: ocid on November 10, 2018, 11:48:22 PM
As we can see bitcoin and cryptocoins price is always go up and down, and is better to see as it is and why not make a profit when this happens. I think there is manipulation and also some people are scared when they see the price goes down, and sell coins even if there not was manipulation, but yes sometimes manipulation is on the way.
indeed, market price manipulation of cryptocurrency is very real so we can feel the impact on market price movements. the amount of competition in this business so that many people who have large capital can easily manipulate market price movements to be able to get greater profits