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1001  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Anget] Hiruk Pikuk Mixer Kripto Tornado Cash on: August 23, 2022, 03:49:21 PM
Yah untuk kemungkinan terburuk yang bisa mereka andalkan hanyalah licenses dan disclaimer.
Sudah jelas kalau lisensi dan disclaimer tidak berlaku kalau sampai kena pidana.

Nah, ini berarti argumen yang tentang "dev itu kan cuma bikin jalan raya, masalah mau dipakai kriminal atau pulisi ya terserah (mereka cuma bikin infrastruktur)" ini nanti sudah patah dan tidak berlaku karena kasus ini. Berarti si pembuat jalan raya itu ikutan kena pidana kalau jalan rayanya dipakai kriminal.

Saking seriusnya masalah ini, beberapa pihak mulai menyuarakan "code is speech."
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/code-speech-and-tornado-cash-mixer

Salah satu ilustrasi yang ditulis pada link di atas adalah terkait hak untuk mempublikasi kode (program), misalnya ada seorang akademisi yang hendak belajar tentang teknologi mixer Tornado Cash, lalu melakukan fork pada kode tsb di GitHub tentunya boleh dong, masa ikutan diciduk...
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 23, 2022, 10:03:31 AM
Do you think "Paid" Streamers are sweeping through Slots and taking all the money that other people are gambling OR are they funding the wins of other players?
It's none of the options, mate.
They are just playing like us, sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. The difference is only about the source of funds, whether they use their pocket money, or from deals with sponsors.

Thinking that bets are dependent, is just the basic definition of a gamble fallacy. Every spin is independent of each other if the devs implement the code correctly. If a streamer gets a max win it doesn't mean you can't get it at the same time (or shortly after the event).
1003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 23, 2022, 05:00:27 AM
I wonder how you have so much energy in regards to slots?
Because at that time I had nothing to do because of the lockdown and my businesses got closed. I longer have such leisure atm Cheesy

I watch streams and see that even steamers are clearly tired of the same slots (although there are supposedly many types of them, but in reality everything is about the same) and they, sighing from fatigue, move from slot to slot losing fake money. How does this content draw you into the game?  Cheesy Or do you watch some special streams?
For example, Xposed before he is famous, there's a satisfaction watching him got rekt since he will get mental and cries. The way he builds up hype when triggering free spins is also laughable especially when no big win is involved at the end of the feature game. I assume this is when he plays with his money or at least risked something.

Try to watch small streamers because their reaction looks genuine. Big streamers kinda lost their passion and look tired.
1004  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / [Anget] Hiruk Pikuk Mixer Kripto Tornado Cash on: August 22, 2022, 06:31:08 PM
Prolog, apa sih Tornado Cash?

Ternyata ada loh threadnya di SFI: Tornado Cash, Transaksi Ethereum Secara Anonim
tl;dr Tornado Cash adalah mixer pada jaringan ETH

Kasus Tornado Cash

Belakangan, nama Tornado Cash mencuat karena pada tanggal 8 Agustus Treasury Department US melarang semua warganya untuk menggunakan Tornado Cash dan bahkan melarang warganya untuk berinteraksi dengan address yang terkait dengan mixer tersebut. Bagi yang melanggar akan dikenai hukuman pidana!
Sumur.

Akibatnya 75.000 USDC dibekukan tanpa pandang bulu apakah itu terkait money laundering atau bukan. Misalnya ketika ane lagi iseng mixing waktu itu, duit ane bakal ikut dibekukan bersama dengan kriminal. Bakal ada pihak tidak bersalah yang dirugikan...

Yang lebih parah lagi adalah event penangkapan salah satu developernya di Amsterdam. Yang diikuti oleh protes komunitas "bebaskan Alexey Pertsev."

Penangkapan, dan kalau nanti bisa benar-benar dihukum pidana. Nantinya akan membuat preseden kalau programmer open source bisa dihukum gara-gara kodenya digunakan oleh pihak yang tidak bertanggung jawab. Dalam kasus ini memfasilitasi praktik pencucian uang.
1005  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Forum altcoin mulai sepi lagi.... on: August 22, 2022, 05:46:15 PM
menurut kalian apakah ini dampak dari momen bearis sehingga banyak pemburu bounty khususnya pendatang baru yang mulai tidak berpartisipasi di dalamnya
Lha menurut agan gimana?

Kalau menurut ane, user casual sudah mulai bosan morum karena tidak ada yang menarik pasca booming ICO, kala itu token masih jadi perbincangan hot, mana proyek yang go to the moon juga hot. Setelah itu DeFi dan NFT yang meskipun kurang berasa hypenya dibanding ICO tapi masih jadi sesuatu yang menarik. Nah, sekarang ini baru sepi tidak ada yang menarik (dari kacamata user casual). Jadi ya yang masih stay adalah user yang memang ada ketertarikan di segala sesuatu tentang kripto - altcoin, seperti depegging UST, Celcius bangkrut, dan Tornado Cash (belom ada threadnya, mungkin ane lagi yang bikin Grin).
1006  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Guide] Mint & Burn ERC20 pakai OpenZeppelin (Tinggal Klik) on: August 22, 2022, 05:34:48 PM
Terus, bagaimana dengan pembuatan token dari pihak penyedia, apakah tetap aman? Kayanya ada beberapa web yang bisa melakukan pembuatan token instant, tapi harga layanannya cukup mahal sih dibandingkan dengan coding sendiri.
Ane pernah lihat beberapa web untuk bikin token, hanya saja selain dari segi biaya, dari segi keamanan masih dipertanyakan. Kalau dari OpenZeppelin katanya "best practice" dan "industry standard," dan sudah banyak dipakai di tutorial-tutorial dan web belajar dapp. Hanya saja ane tidak menjamin apapun DYOR & DWYOR karena ane tidak melakukan audit pada library-library mereka.

https://github.com/OpenZeppelin/openzeppelin-contracts (sepertinya sudah cukup reputable). Kalau untuk kontrak dasar yang ada di wizard keknya sudah sangat membantu sehingga kita tidak perlu lagi koding dari nol, tidak perlu juga pakai pihak ketiga untuk sekedar bikin token.
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling..... on: August 21, 2022, 06:27:48 PM
I haven't watched slots stream for months since it affects my gambling activities. Fake money or not, watching them playing slots triggers me to play! Grin
Last year I watched stream a lot, played a lot, and busted a lot more lol.
Anyway, it's easy for casinos to set up an account that has a play money balance that can't be withdrawn. They can also set up a balance with minimum turnover, for example, $10,000 with 60x turnover, just like FJ's Bonus Apetit but bigger.

They are here to entertain, if they stated the money is from such a partnership, there's nothing wrong with it IMO. People can agree and disagree, but streamers are here to stay.
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Rematch - JOSHUA vs USYK II (updated thread) on: August 21, 2022, 05:56:56 PM
I think AJ is overrated in the first place, and it's now proven with Ruiz and then Usyk, two top fighters that are not that good compared to the previous decade's boxers. Well, looking at the top 5 heavyweight boxers, it seems that Fury will be the undisputed champion quite easily. Usyk is a cruiserweight boxer, his punch means nothing for a gigantic boxer like Fury.

Yeah AJ vs Wilder would be a good match, as long as Wilder has no serious injury post-KO, He'll beat AJ.
1009  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: APAKAH BAPPEBTI BENAR BENAR MELINDUNGI INVESTOR INDONESIA? on: August 21, 2022, 05:40:30 PM
Sebenarnya sekedar promosi aja udah melanggar aturan, kalau dianggap token adalah sekuritas/surat berharga. Sayangnya Pemerintah entah tidak mengerti atau tidak mau tau kalau token yang bisa seenaknya dimint dan burn itu masuk sekuritas.

Ataukah mereka sudah masuk konsorsium 303 jadi tidak diberi tindakan? Grin

Kalau hanya sebatas promosi, sementara dalam hal memperjual belikannya via exchange luar, apakah lantas Bappebti punya kewenangan untuk memerintahkan decentralized exchange tersebut agar tidak memfasilitasi aset kripto tersebut untuk diperdagangkan?
Kalau jangkauannya sekuat SEC Mamarika tentu saja bisa, tidak ada itu DEX di mata mereka. Setiap DEX pasti ada manusia yang coding, ada juga yang deploy kontrak, maintenis, dsb. Orang-orang ini tinggal diciduk saja sudah offline kek Tornado Cash. Dulu kan juga sudah ada kasus EtherDelta, dan belum lama SEC juga menyelidiki UniSwap.

Masalahnya siapa Indonesia di kancah internasional. Jadi ya pesimis bisa memberi sangsi dsb.
1010  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 19, 2022, 01:43:56 PM
Discord Gamble
Discordnya bukan buat gambling dong, sesuai namanya. Hanya saja sekarang sponsornya baru dari BK8, jadinya kesannya channel juday.
Kalo membernya bisa banyak, aktif, dan ada yg mau jadi sponsor giveaway (misalnya teh botol sos) ya bakal ada task terkait hal tsb Grin
Mungkin $20 tidak berarti buat agan, tapi bisa jadi berarti buat "temen" agan wkwkw
Siapa tau giveaway menang dan bisa wede $2000 ?



Btw Prediksi Bola udah keluar di Reddit.
Yang Serie-A Gameweek 1 bener 9/9 prediksinya  Grin Grin
1011  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: August 19, 2022, 01:36:17 PM
@efe1 If I understand it correctly, your total deposit is what that count and is currently discussed.
When they ban an account they usually return the deposit just for "good intentions" as long as the players haven't made profits from the site.
In your case, even if they confiscate your recent balance, you are still in profit, so they won't return your deposit.
That's my conclusion from the case, CMIIW.
1012  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 17, 2022, 03:52:26 PM
Saya agak kurang paham, jenis sponsornya kayak gimana?, apa sama dengan club la liga kemaren?
Kemaren sempet baca keknya beda-beda deh, misalnya ada yang jadi sponsor jersey training, ada yang charity, ada yang official asian betting sponsor, tapi pada intinya jadi partner/sponsor secara umum.

Lebih jelas ada di https://www.reddit.com/r/BK8_Forum/comments/wlp6nh/bk8_becomes_the_official_partner_of_burnley/

Bikin giveaway di sini juga dong, jangan hanya di tempat/media lain, karena ada beberapa user yang tidak mempunyai akun discord dsb. Lagian. akun discord itu gampang dimulti, tanpa verifikas email pun bisa langsung gabung dan ngepost. btw dah gabung maskekar, lagi nginget-nginget dulu password bk8 saya yang dah lama gak dijamah.
Kan giveawaynya harus nyelesaiin suatu simple task dulu baru eligible, kalo ndak nanti di-reroll. Ribet kalau giveaway di sini, aturan ketat dan susah nanti undiannya. Kalau di Discord ada botnya, bisa diatur seenak hati (cuma ga bisa ngeset winner doang). Dan Discord lebih enak buat ngobrol santai (chat, bukan forum), memang tujuannya untuk asik-asikan aja.
1013  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Guide] Mint & Burn ERC20 pakai OpenZeppelin (Tinggal Klik) on: August 16, 2022, 06:00:06 AM
^Atas ane cepet banget dan betul.
Pada "Premint" di OpenZeppelin ane memasukkan 1000 dan betul hasilnya 1000 ROY karena:

Code:
constructor() ERC20("SFIToken", "ROY") {
        _mint(msg.sender, 1000 * 10 ** decimals());
    }

Sudah dihitung di smart contract menggunakan syntax di atas, akan tetapi untuk interaksi lanjutan belum diubah alias masih uint256. Maka dari itu untuk mint dan burn yang menggunakan template OpenZeppelin harus menggunakan perhitungan agan @vv181.

Gampang banget kan bikin token? Makanya harus benar-benar hati-hati kalau mau beli token.
1014  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 16, 2022, 05:44:31 AM
Ayo sir komporing buat giveaway lagi untuk "Bitcointalk" user ~XD berhubung duitnya banyak kan. Grin di tunggu saweran giveawaynya dari ambasdaor BK8-nya wkwkwkwk. Cocok kan sekalian selebrasi buat sponsor bolanya ~XD.
Sudah sir, ini baru ada saweran di group discord https://discord.gg/E5tPvjmYRd yang diundi besok 17 Agustus.
Hadiahnya 20 USDT untuk 2 Pemenang, total 40 USDT.
Buruan ikutan karena membernya baru dikit, peluang menang besar!
1015  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / [Guide] Mint & Burn ERC20 pakai OpenZeppelin (Tinggal Klik) on: August 15, 2022, 04:02:12 PM
Panduan kali ini membahas:
* Penggunaan template smart contract di OpenZeppelin (https://wizard.openzeppelin.com/)
* Compile & Deploy smart contract via remix (https://remix.ethereum.org/)
* Berinteraksi dengan smart contract yang sudah dideploy

Bonus karena pakai BSC testnet (tidak harus pakai BSC, jaringan apa aja yang mendukung standar ERC bisa)
* Ambil BSC testnet coin (https://testnet.binance.org/faucet-smart)
* Setup Metamask BSC testnet


0. Setup Metamask (BSC Testnet)


Pada Network, masukkan informasi berikut:
Quote
* Network Name: BSC Testnet
* New RPC URL: https://data-seed-prebsc-1-s1.binance.org:8545
* ChainID: 97
* Symbol: BNB
* Block Explorer URL: https://testnet.bscscan.com/

Kemudian minta sedikit saldo di https://testnet.binance.org/faucet-smart
Metamask pun berisi koin testnet dan siap untuk dipakai
Kalau ane dikirim 0.5 BNB Testnet


1. Generate Kontrak di OpenZeppelin (Pakai Wizard)

Kunjungi https://wizard.openzeppelin.com/ untuk membuat smart contract

* Pilih mau ERC20, ERC721, dsb, pada contoh ini pakai ERC20
* Inputkan nama token, simbol ticker, premint alias jumlah token awal, dan fitur. Dalam kasus ini ane centang mintable agar bisa dimint, burnable agar bisa diburn, dan pausable agar token tidak bisa berpindah tangan (berguna ketika ada hack dsb) - (1).
* Agan bisa copy kodenya di kolom (2) lalu manual paste di remix, atau
* Pakai (3) "Open in Remix" biar langsung terbuka di sana


2. Compile Kode tsb di Remix


* Pastikan versinya sama antara compiler dengan kode dari OpenZeppelin, dalam kasus ini pragma solidity ^0.8.4;
* Tekem Compile.


3. Deploy Hasil Compile


* Jangan lupa hubungkan dengan MetaMask di "Environment"
* Biarkan Gas Limit (Ini kalau live/bukan testnet tergantung kondisi jaringan) dan Value default.
* Pastikan Contract yang mau dideploy adalah yang namanya sama dengan jendela yang terbuka. Dalam kasus ini "SFIToken - ....."
* Tekem tombol "Deploy"


4. Cek ROY Token di BSCSCAN Testnet


https://testnet.bscscan.com/token/0xd13ded934b2750a041a4d7d0791d6b04c4ce740a
Ingat alamat kontraknya (0xd13ded934b2750a041a4d7d0791d6b04c4ce740a) untuk berinteraksi lanjutan seperti mint dan burn.


5. Coba Mint dan Burn via Remix


Pada Bagian:
Quote
OR
At Address
Isikan dengan alamat kontrak 0xd13ded934b2750a041a4d7d0791d6b04c4ce740a
Maka akan terbuka opsi-opsi seperti mint, burn, dll.
Sesudah input data tinggal tekem "transact" aja

Pada contoh ane coba mint 1000 token, tapi yang masuk hanya 0.000000000000001 ROY
Ada yang tahu kenapa? (Berhadiah Merit)


Bonus:
6. Setup ROY Token di MetaMask

Buat yang belum tau aja kalau token tadi harus diimport dulu di MetaMask agar terbaca

Klik Import


Isikan dengan alamat kontrak kita tadi 0xd13ded934b2750a041a4d7d0791d6b04c4ce740a
Symbol ROY, Desimal 18
1016  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Reddit Akan Buka Fitur Beli ETH Bayar Ongkos Pake Reddit Points on: August 13, 2022, 06:49:34 AM
Belum ada notif di Reddit terkait hal ini, apa mungkin karena ane ga punya koin Cheesy
Ya soalnya koin di Reddit itu berbayar, paling murah $1.99 dapet 500 koin.

Kalau bayar gas fee pakai koin Reddit keknya malah tambah ribet, dan gas fee sendiri diprediksi akan berkurang sesudah Merge POS 15 September besok.
Mungkin berita yang lebih cerah adalah yang terkait pembelian ETH via aplikasi Reddit, dan mungkin nanti akan ada implementasi lanjutan penggunaan ETH di platform tsb. Tapi ya untuk saat ini di platformnya sendiri belum ada marketing terkait hal ini sepemantauan ane yang tiap hari buka Reddit.
1017  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 12, 2022, 02:30:03 AM
BK8 jadi sponsor tiga klub bola Inggris:





Duitnya banyak euy, menang berapapun pasti dibayar! Grin
1018  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession: The Government's Obvious Mistake on: August 10, 2022, 05:02:59 PM
Maybe he is like the other that does not believe on coivd?
Whoa chill dude Cheesy
The question is, why it requires belief if all about the disease is obvious? I don't have to believe that, let's say, HIV/AIDS exists, no question.
But it may not be suitable for this econ discussion and COVID discussion is outdated already.

for us that believes then we think that lock downs are a good thing because there is also proof that people are dying and cases are rising all over the world. Majority of the people are also scared during that peak so they just agree to this rule but even if they don't they will still be forced or else they will pay big for it.
If you believe COVID exists, it shouldn't automatically support the lockdowns. What's the proof that lockdown will slow down the spread, lowering the death rate? What if nothing change other than the economy (for the worse). What if the excess mortality isn't because of COVID, but because of lockdowns - no income?

It's evident that when rice is abundant, the rat population increase, conversely when there's shortage, the rat population decrease.

Anyway, the effects of the pandemic are starting to get lowered and the economy is returning back to normal again.
What if it doesn't have to be that way? There's no need to return to normal if we didn't deviate from the normality in the first place.



Um, clearly? I mean they've called it an agenda themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset.
Yeah, I'm aware of the WEF thing, but I don't think this organization has so much influence.



I don't think there is any agenda it's just that they are too dumb to come up with a better solution, they just do what is easy which is to print money (which is the main reason for these days inflations and being on the verge of recession). Any other solution would be harder and could also come with some unknown risks. Most governments don't bother with it since their terms would come to an end soon before they can finish it!!!
Make sense! They just pick what's easy. I thought it's because of the myopic policy as well. They only think for the short term, but it doesn't match with the green agenda. They are trying to solve 100+ year problem now.
1019  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: August 10, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
Most people who are getting "KYC & Refunded for the deposit" are "Sportbooks" player. Because, I read in some situation sportsbook player can easily abused like odds or other abused activity as well. Now, If you comparing user who are playing "Livegames or Slot" we always have a  small chance to get a "KYC"

Even my self already register a few casino, have some withdraw with high amount money including "BK8" never getting KYC request.
Yeah, the case of slots or non sports betting is pretty rare, even here in Bitcointalk I can only recall one ban case when the player found and abused a security hole in a slot game and won a lot of BTC. Meanwhile, every week or so, there will be one or more case of sports betting. Arbitraging, match fixing, syndicate, is one of many reasons people got banned.

BK8 policy regarding to ban is pretty lenient since they returned the deposit money instead of confiscates/freezes the fund compared to most casinos.
1020  Economy / Economics / Recession: The Government's Obvious Mistake on: August 09, 2022, 08:34:37 AM
How can they make this obvious mistake and get away with it?

  • Lockdowns disrupt the supply chain. Artificially closing and reopening the economy will make a high unemployment period followed by high training costs and a longer time to get the same level of productivity;
  • Lockdowns obliterating small/home businesses;
  • Print money to incentivize people not to work;
  • Further restrict economy with "green" agenda;
  • Increase taxes to bail out their over-expenses.

I don't think they are dumb, but maybe they followed the wrong principle. Or there's a big agenda to get people into poverty?
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