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1121  Other / Meta / Re: I want a way to demerit posts. on: May 11, 2020, 12:21:21 PM
There are a set of posts that belong to a space that resides within "not removable via reports" and "horrible to read". These posts come in various forms, involving ever-so-slight trolling, padded posts resting on the precipice of spam, regurgitated posts, and blatantly wrong information.

It is highly improbable that you have not encountered at least one of these posts. If you've ever read a post and immediately thought afterwards, "this post says nothing in so many words," then you share in the suffering. Reports take time to bake and it isn't that feasible to report the thousands of posts of spam (but borderline forum spam) every day nor is it feasible for moderators to go through all the reports.* I would like a system that can dissuade users from such posts though I share the same concerns of abuse once the ability for such restrictions arises.

*If the volume is too high for staff, let me know.

Example half-assed post for reference, in relation to the thread.

Quote
The issue surrounding post quality is that of a complex one and it is inconceivably difficult to sort through our various options to decide upon one with absolute success.

Furthermore the reliability of merit resulting in higher quality may be a topic of contention as well as the idea of demeriting posts.

However, I think that more discussion needs to be had before we can formulate a conclusive result.

Real stream of consciousness bullshit right there. (don't forget to do some extra padding with spacing between each sentence!)
1122  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Recommended readings before investing into bitcoin? on: May 11, 2020, 12:07:16 PM
Depending on your proficiency in computer science and/or mathematics, you could glean some additional benefit from what I personally used to learn about bitcoin: the developer documentation and the developer reference which are available at bitcoin.org Smiley
And obviously if you haven't read the whitepaper yet (hopefully you have) then that is also definitely something to investigate.

Even for people who don't understand too much technical jargon should be able to handle the whitepaper and site guide, though. Only the references start getting very esoteric.
1123  Other / Meta / Re: REVOLUTION of bitcointalk.org V on: May 11, 2020, 12:46:31 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247453.0

the childlike trust system itself
"I trust this"
"I don't trust this"
"Who are you and how much do you know me?" I said this publicly
How did you come to the conclusion that the most reasonable and accessible resolution was not to address the members that you believe are dismantling the trust system, but rather to double down on your oppression olympics and try to reduce the system itself to dust?

Anarchy is totally fine - you can go to forums that don't have usernames for that. Smiley
1124  Other / Meta / Re: REVOLUTION of bitcointalk.org V on: May 11, 2020, 12:28:32 AM
Yes because this system is unfair, everyone adds to the list mutually
Unfortunately, the conclusion results in the trite observation: if everyone is trusted, nobody is trusted.

If we're doing this in the scope of the entire sample then I don't see the use of individualizing trust. One important thing to note is that the idea of a grouping of individuals in DT1 is inevitable and can always be construed regardless of the distribution of trust and distrust throughout the system.

Any time there is mutual trust, one could claim (without any astoundingly explicable reason, mind) that there is a conspiracy, a gang, et al. To forgo sensibilities and leap towards asinine "revolutions" in a privately-owned forum with administrators is to have a childlike fit the likes of the Reputation board.
1125  Other / Meta / Re: [APPEAL] Rubitok on: May 10, 2020, 06:41:27 AM
it’s also visible that he simply answered by inserting the text that the other user brought in - as if he was not plagiarizing, but the author of the answer
I don't quite understand this.

From what I gather, the situation is as follows:

The user found an answer to a question from another site. [perfectly fine]
The user decided to copy the exact text from the site. [perfectly fine*] *(given negation of the following)
The user did not credit the source of the original text. [not fine].

It's a little weird that you're being so vehement towards your friend/colleague's account and that they haven't written a single word of their own to defend themselves.



Forum rules are easy to find. I read them on my first day, IIRC.

1126  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID! on: May 10, 2020, 06:31:47 AM
I don't even understand the second point: a writing style change = Lauda?
I love skepticism but if it's just rudimentary rhetoric repeatedly reduced to an inundated indignant cascade of your stream of consciousness, then the logic rarely follows. The homo sapiens are not creatures of logic regardless of how much their hubris pushes them to that conclusion: most if not all facets stem from that of emotion which is a very volatile element of humanity.

If you wish to continue to embarrass yourself, then you may proceed. Or, perhaps not. For the idea of embarrassment, of humbleness, of self-realization resides in someone with self-awareness. Those who are not think that their actions are absolutely correct in spite of what others may say, or perhaps even in spite of evidence. When an argument devolves to a point where one must continue to make deflections, create continual inexplicable claims to both save face and to create attention, when one suffers from delusions of grandeur and assumes mass conspiracy theories revolving around them, when one slings around ad-hominem as if it were a subconscious reaction of their body... they need to take a step back to self-reflect, if even possible.
1127  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Gift Cards - What’s at your local store ? on: May 09, 2020, 04:09:58 PM
I know that at least for Canada, there's this company: https://www.risewallet.com

Found them out due to a collaboration with coincards, another CA-based site. I have actually seen quite a number of bitcoin ATM's around, so there's another benefit to my location (oh no, self-dox!) Smiley
1128  Other / Meta / Re: Why exactly memberlist is disabled? on: May 09, 2020, 02:56:36 PM
Viewing all member feature is disabled the same as the statistics feature because it takes lots of resources to get from the server and cause the forum to have downtime imo while the search for member feature is still working so there's no need to remove the Members button.
It would be great if resource-intensive restrictions were lifted in relation to rank progression, similarly to the time restrictions with forum actions.

Certainly, if any user is particularly egregious, they can be singled out and there will be diminishing impact on the forum, no?
These developers really aren't pushing out the QoL patches, tsk. Maybe eventually epochtalk will leave early access Roll Eyes
1129  Other / Meta / Re: Few changes base on my own observations to be implemented on bitcointalk forum on: May 09, 2020, 04:46:31 AM
Meta and Reputation seem to hold a dense distribution of merit but a sensible hypothesis would be that the other prominently "active" boards are often filled with posts of substandard quality. I doubt many would object to my disappointment in the * [dD]iscussion threads, nor would they object to a cleanup of the Altcoin boards.

If users started posting better-quality posts and threads (not those generic read-title-reply threads) then perhaps there wouldn't be such a lack of incentive to delve into those boards. Speculation and Economics have started to improve, but only just slightly. I still actively go into those boards to seek out spam, not to seek out quality posts.
1130  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Charity Auction] -Australia Charity Auction #2 -Random Lots on: May 09, 2020, 03:14:20 AM
Lot 3 @ 0.0015
1131  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which exchange would be recommended for a new cypto user? on: May 08, 2020, 12:37:54 PM
LocalBitcoins has its drawbacks and I'd generally advise against it for new users of Bitcoin, especially as human error reaches drastic levels when you're dealing with novel financial transactions. It's important to actually look into your various options (don't take advice blindly/at face value) and OP would likely benefit from putting some extra time into something that involves money.

A lot of exchanges have KYC and newer crypto users might shrug it off as an unpreventable sacrifice for accessibility, but it's important to really figure out what happens when you decide to use certain platforms.
1132  Other / Meta / Re: Please explain the ban reason on: May 08, 2020, 09:45:14 AM
Thanks for the info.

Justs wondering If his new account was banned then he will create a new one and name it ~~~DefaultTrust and so on. ~~~~~~~~~ Grin
I'm not sure how much QA testing theymos has done with the distrust/trust lists but hopefully it can handle the edge cases of strange character interactions with backslashes and tildes in one's name.

Not sure if you can even register with something like \\~\~~DefaultTrust but surely it looks like it might have a chance to break something Smiley
1133  Other / Meta / Re: Please explain the ban reason on: May 08, 2020, 09:33:04 AM
OK, I tried to distrust ~DefaultTrust previously with the \~DefaultTrust but it didn't look to have worked.  How do I ~ both ~DefaultTrust and ~~DefaultTrust ??
You've got it the other way 'round:

"If you want to trust someone whose name begins with a tilde, prefix their name with a backslash."
It's as easy as
~~DefaultTrust
~~~DefaultTrust

As stupid as it looks.

Backslash is only to get rid of the intended meaning of the tilde, which is to distrust... and since you're not looking to trust "~[...]" but rather distrust, you needn't use a backslash.
1134  Other / Meta / Re: Please explain the ban reason on: May 08, 2020, 08:51:14 AM
What are you talking about? It is forbidden to write what I think? Really? Are we in North Korea???
OK. Realized. It seems I have violated secret forum rules:
1. It is forbidden to write here what you think
2. It is strongly forbidden to write here if you are not asked anything.

Thank you for clarification!
Just to clarify, this is the pertinent rule: "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads"

Really, it casts a large enough net/umbrella to catch most of the varied forms of spam. Burst posting is merely an action that one performs to create multiple spam posts.
A spam post could be deemed so due to the context of the thread:

Suppose there are already 10 replies, of which highlight similar solutions or remarks about the given topic. If you decide to write an 11th reply and fail to add anything of substance that is novel, then you are merely repeating the previous replies in the thread and thereby not contributing to the discussion. Thus, insubstantial quality - multiple posts of this kind in quick succession would likely be considered "burst posting".
Pedantry does get tiresome, doesn't it?
1135  Other / Meta / Re: Deleting 5 year old posts on: May 08, 2020, 08:44:19 AM
I always try to maintain my reports to within the last 3 to 4 months, only stepping over the bounds if the user has particularly egregious post quality or if there is something critical to check out. I really don't see the point of people reporting posts older than that: notwithstanding exceptional cases, you can anticipate that those posts would be invariably buried beneath the subsequent lackadaisical replies or beneath the newer, spammier threads in the board.

If some mongrel really has a vendetta against QS, there are certainly more productive ways to lash out at them than doing these sneaky reports if that's the intention. Roll Eyes
1136  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Filter for Posts on: May 01, 2020, 11:11:23 PM
If not, I am really not sure what you're looking for, or tell us what you're looking for in particular so we can help you.
Imagine if you searched for the word "the" which you repeat at least twice in this thread. The search results would only show one of those replies rather than the entire set.
1137  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Filter for Posts on: May 01, 2020, 11:25:57 AM
I believe what you're referring to is the issue of topic/post parity - search results only revealing one reply per thread.

I do not recall any methodology to combat this. Even Google results have the same issue, IIRC.
1138  Other / Meta / Re: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. on: May 01, 2020, 11:16:05 AM
I don't think so, although the topic has existed for quite some time before I made the post.
What's the original topic? It's possible that a "shifting necropost" caused posts to be reported & deleted, subsequently moving replies upward to where they are the new source of a necrobump.
I have seen this happen a few times and reported some of them myself: replies chained to a root of an insubstantial necrobump are equivalently infected with the lack of substance, in my opinion.
1139  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: *REOPENED* Nitrogen Sports Report, account closed, money stolen on: May 01, 2020, 11:10:23 AM
In regard to the whole ToS pedantry, a distinction to make would be the following: whether the account that the friend of OP registered was their first or a subsequent account. The former should not raise any issue (we can pick apart semantics if desired) and should be in line with the terms, as confusing as they are. The latter does pose dubiousness but the violation of ToS should not be reflected with an immediate asset seizure. I doubt anyone would see this as morally or legally just.
Though, NS probably doesn't have a problem with that since they masquerade the rollover requirements as AML precautions. Tongue
1140  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL]Double standard moderation? on: May 01, 2020, 02:03:23 AM
Is there double standards? But both options are yes?

There should be a no option.  How else to compare the results?
Well, if you don't vote then you are of the "no double standard" faction but the idea here is to propose that the two users have opposing results regarding their ban. If it isn't indicative of a double standard, then you can explain in a reply (as suchmoon as done so).

Comparing the cases of plagiarism and ICO bumping though...

The point stands that these same people were requesting he was not banned I initially and then begging for reinstatement.
Right... I'm not sure what the conflict of interest is here, though.

Polls ideally should be transparent or tallied up from replies so we can read the thoughts behind their vote.
That's why we have a thread! For replies, discussion, discourse. Smiley

I like to see sig bans and long ones for financially motivated plagiarism  If people will post without a sig for 5yrs then I feel they are worth a other chance. Scammers should be get no second chance. They pose a direct financial threat. Real enthusiasts dont need to be paid to contribute here.
I have no problem with extending the signature ban indefinitely. In fact, to all users.

Directly financially dangerous individuals should be removed quickly especially senior or worse still DT members who have max leverage and assumed credibility.
Ah, and there lay the problem with the 100-wide monthly-cycling DT1 circle, which adds even more DT2 users to the table.

I actually think free speech is more important than the financial aspect. People can protect their own finances to a large degree the admin is more responsible for ensuring free speech here

Each senior member should have a full in depth and fair appraisal of their net contribution here so no 2 cases are identical
Therefore a double standard is impossible to say ( in the cases of non proven scammers anyway where net contributions are not a mitigating factor ).
I agree.
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