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1181  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: January 05, 2015, 09:13:58 PM
hashie i have some questions for you. as i understand you will be sued and end up in jail. i'm a bit worried about my frostcoin after they lock you up, can you please release a windows wallet so your customers could keep their frostcoins untill you are released from prison?
another thing, what should we do with our frostcoin while during your jailtime? you will not be able to pay dividends so i thought maybe we could stake that coin and i can grow my single frostcoin into several upon your release.
look at your competition, gaw has released paycoin wallet and now when they go to jail i can still keep my paycoins in my computer and stake them. producing songs is of course important, but wallet and staking is very important too so i hope you look into it more seriously. Undecided Embarrassed
i am wondering will trany queen elsa be able to use frostcoin to buy vaseline in prison. If not can you take physical delivery of frost coin cause going to need something to ease the pain from all that prison rape.  Grin
1182  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 05, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
Name   Power efficiency   Maintenance fees   Fees/Earnings   Last Price
UMISOO   1.0W/GHS   $0.0022896/GHS/Day   Infinity%   0.0003599BTC

Why did fees/Earnings just change to Infinity% ?

Probably because they use bitstamp exchange data to compute percentage and bitstamp is down.
mmmmm interesting i forgot thats where they got the price from. Makes sense now i did not know exchange was down
1183  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 05, 2015, 05:00:30 PM
The mining contracts always seem to be sold out.  Undecided

At AMHash they are sold out (new shares will be sold soon when BTC price will raise). But you can trade them at Havelock. There is a marketplace where you can sell/buy them like BTC/LTC at Bittrex.

what if I trust to website AMHhash only, but do not trust to website Havelockinvestments and especially Hashi ?

Hashie is no longer an option. If you don't trust in Havelock, you'll have to wait. AMHash announced that a marketplace for shares will be launched on their site and when the situation about BTC gets better, new shares will be sold.
wait unless i read that wrong are you saying that AMhash will no longer be selling through havelock. Instead they will sell cloud mining directly or shares whatever they want to call it. If so when will this happen and where can i read up on it please post link
1184  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 05, 2015, 04:58:53 PM
Estimated Next Difficulty:   46,539,796,428 (+14.51%)
Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 6.7 days

If this holds up and BTC stays in the dumps I guess the dividend

will amount to .00000600 tops in a week. Maybe itīll be lower,

time will tell.



Don't worry, If the declining BTC and increasing difficulty don't give soon...... well i know some miners will be turning off before us, unless the ultimate flash crash comes and we are all doomed.

I must admit that with a decreasing price and an increasing difficulty
One will give in sooner or later although Bitstamp having issues as a sidenote might be a problem
we can only hope this is true, i know if prices stay like this and difficulty keeps going up alot of older models will need to be turned off. Especially for those folks who now got a extra bill to pay for home heating during winter months
1185  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: January 05, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
well i see another day of fun filled drama in queen elsas domain. More like trany queen elsa as i see alot of people say is a man with severe mental issues.
1186  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 05, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
Name   Power efficiency   Maintenance fees   Fees/Earnings   Last Price
UMISOO   1.0W/GHS   $0.0022896/GHS/Day   Infinity%   0.0003599BTC

Why did fees/Earnings just change to Infinity% ?
mmmmm i dont know i just checked for myself and i noticed it says same thing Umisoo fees/earnings = infinity. I know yesterday was at like 67% when btc price was like 288$
1187  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ZeusHash] Cloud Node - Getting Bitcoin/Litecoin Should Be Fun and Easy on: January 05, 2015, 05:14:08 AM
wow i am done on this forum i will check in every few days maybe something changes but for now going else where. I need to baby my wallet as it was raped by this people. Feel free to send donations to begin the healing of my anus  Cry   12UMbZbR19zHWB5dHVuNuTSYBVwqa4mqmd   thanks for feeling my pain  Lips sealed
1188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Paycoin (XPY) = Federal Reserve on: January 05, 2015, 05:10:14 AM
Looks like they didn't land that Amazon contract in spite of Josh Garza's declaration in Miami.
well i see paycoin is taking a massive crash course here in last 48 hours. I am not sure why seems like it went up good for some time then drop some to the 29 level and then took back off to 47 level. Now it is just like a dead fish in the water at 20 just doing nothing and nobody wanting it  Shocked

It bounced a few times on the way down. I think it will fall much further with more bounces.
well how dare them by amazon.com not wanting to side with Josh dream coin means that amazon.com will fail as wont have support of the mighty paycoin. I better go watch amazon prime video before it is gone, i will see you all laters good night  Tongue
1189  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 05, 2015, 05:04:54 AM
Oh well. I was IP banned from Hashtalk after my last email spat with Josh.

I cannot post my public acceptance of his 100 BTC bet with his Cashtakers vs my block eruptor. =/
DONT do it mob its a trap we all know it you will never be paid but if you loose will be expected to pay right there on the spot. Funny how things work in this world lol
1190  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] CLOUDMINR.IO Mining contracts || 0.0014 BTC / GHS on: January 05, 2015, 04:58:41 AM
Could you please explain why the address matching with Cloudminr.io : http://www.reisevaksiner.no/ and why will be the next payout on jan 11 instead of today?
TY

same question. i also submitted a ticket ..
i am thinking this must be a mistake, i got payment around 5pm eastern time zone in USA. The next payment will be 1-11-2015 as that is the next Sunday of month but make no mistake i got pmt today
1191  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 05, 2015, 04:55:56 AM
Yeah, the price of Bitcoins has to fall to around $260-$280 due the maths in the macro economics involved in the older generations of crypto currencies.

Essentially, the currency has to many miners who are not investors or backer of crypto currencies, but these people are purely interested selling of their Bitcoins for Fiat currency e.g. Dollars, Pounds, Euros, etc. Therefore, they are simply mining to sell off their Bitcoins or whatever crypto currency and cash out into Fiat Currency.

Currently, what has been attempted has been to increase the mining difficulty to offset boom in demand for Bitcoins (boom is when prices go unrealistic levels in a short-term period compared to the long-term). The better policy would have been, the biggest holders of Bitcoin releasing some of their stockpiles to prevent the original booms in Bitcoins prices and buying Bitcoins back in slumps. For example: 30% of all the Bitcoins are owned by about 10 people, the entire price difference between a price of $276 per Bitcoin and $360 in $1 million dollar or 0.026% of the current market capitalization.  Therefore, it should be impossible to have a boom in the Bitcoin price unless the people with the big holdings are not following macro economic rules.

The policy of pushing up the mining difficulty to maintain an unrealistic prices has caused a knock on reduction in miners willing to hold their Bitcoins for 2-100 years, this is because they need increase their hashing power to maintain their yields, which means a bigger demand for mining equipment (and cloud mining) purchases, which equates to more miners needing to sell Bitcoins or providers needing to sell Bitcoins for Fiat currency.  

Alternatively, if the biggest holders had managed the price downwards it would have choked off Fiat Currency Profiteers entering the crypto currency market place in the 1st place.

A simple equation: the price profitability of being a miner should be below the value of doing extra hours of overtime in paid employments= choking out Fiat Currency Profiteers.

The other equation that matters is: each day the amount of people seeking to cash out into Fiat currency must equal the number of people seeking to buy in with Fiat currency, the price will go up or down according to imbalances in this equilibrium.

For example: Bitcoin S5 is $413. A Quality PSU is $160, a Raspberry PI is $56 and Postage is $30= $659.

In the USA (Current price of $278), with 50% jump in difficulty over 1 year results in profit a $678.5. If the person spends 1 hour each week on maintenance and research, this equals a wage of $13 per hour. Many people will reckon 1 hour of overtime in the office or in a factory would be easier then messing about with electronics?

However, this equation has been completely ridiculous when the price of Bitcoin was $800, per each hour invested by miner they made $56. Obviously, this was always going to attract Fiat Currency Profiteers!

Turning to hacking or theft of Bitcoins from major companies like MT.Gox. This has clearly, shaken the less informed investors interested in Bitcoin and other crypto currencies.

The design of Crypto Currency has a theoretical possibility of being a platform for zero theft existence for businesses and large investors.

The Bitcoin organisation or the original designers simply didn't see how close their crypto currency was to zero theft existence for businesses and private investors.

Essentially, the Bitcoin or new crypto-currency would set up a premium services for businesses to lock their wallet across the peer-to-peer network, up to 50-100% volume could be locked down  according to operational needs. Therefore, not only would a hacker have to steal the wallet, break the encryption, but also contact the Organisation to move coins of that wallet in large volumes, consequently contacting Bitcoin would reveal their identity!

Secondly, looking at the owner of Mintpal stealing depositors Bitcoins, these Bitcoins ended up on in his wallet. As a peer to peer currency, people will publicly know or be able to trace his wallet with the stolen Bitcoins on and other people should be able to lock his wallet on the network through 40%-50% vote in favour. Therefore, making it impossible to to profit from the theft of that crypto currency. Peer to peer wallets for crypto currencies should have voting functions (like internet jury) to lock wallet of a person accused of stealing coins on the network.

At the end of day, most miners or cloud miners of Bitcoin would prefer lower Fiat prices for Bitcoins or Litecoins then turbo charged increases in mining difficulty, because if you plan to hold the currency for 2 years or more (1 year 8 month to next block halving) then a greater volume of Bitcoin on past expenditures is better each day then a higher Fiat currency price.
WOW this is alot of reading i about finished a cup of coffee reading this lol. I must say i am really proud of a new account that writes this kind of stuff. Alot of the new accounts i see just go on to complain and hide haha. In any case i agree with alot of the points you have made note of on here.
1192  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 05, 2015, 04:49:26 AM
So maybe if those advocates of bitcoin could shut up completely

for a year and let more mainstream people do the talking to the

common man this would most likely bolster interest.

I myself am a bit libertarian, however i am more practical than libertarian, i love freedom but i also understand that the perfect society does not have any laws because they self regulate at the individual level, so no regulation is needed, laws are only needed to correct harmful social misconduct in the view of a long term sustainable future, this is not the case in the actual state of social evolution, right now to be libertarian is to be delusional if you do not understand this simple axiom.

So, as most of the people is just self-centered and therefore greedy, unfortunately a higher force is needed and this is called regulation, the social experiment of bitcoin will prove this right, the hard way sadly...

Exactly.



However, my analysis is half baked, because if we were the ones in the position of the "greedy Chinese", we will probably be doing the same, even when i think that i myself will try to implement some guild or cartel trying to get the other mine owners to implement rules of behaviour in order to extend the life of the ecosystem.

So Bitcoin is a beautiful but flawed initiative, because it could work in a situation where the individuals have more or less the same long term vision sense, like in the Star Trek's future, but not in early 21st century, i think this will collapse in less than 3 years if regulation or at least self regulation takes place.

Well, if it becomes general consensus that bitcoin is doomed

then that view will become oversold if you will and then the

marketplace will presumably take measures to ensure that it

survives. My belief in the rationality of healthy markets is

unshakable. There will be a tipping point, maybe a gigantic

scam much bigger than Mt. Gox or a major mining bankruptcy.

There is way too much complacency and penny stock-to the

moon mentality. A major shock could do wonders for reality

perception.
I myself am really shocked they did not do anything after silk road. Then when the whole thing with mt gox went down i thought for sure something i might change. The i know people was saying someone got caught trying to pay for a hitman using bitcoin " not sure if true " but dam lol maybe a LITTLE regulation wont be bad
1193  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 05, 2015, 02:07:53 AM
regardless of mining power 3600BTC(roughly) will still be mined per day.........

There never is any meaningful volume.

BTC on a good 24 hours maybe turns over what 50 million dollars.

Thatīs like 1/60th of Facebook volume in a 6 1/2 hr. market session.

But IF BTC is to amount to anything in the future then massive volume

will come in at some point. With such a tiny float a billion dollars could

send it up dozens of percent in virtually minutes.
i am about $50 shy of a billion dollars  Cry dam sorry guys really thought i could have helped move the bitcoin price back up. I will start saving some pennies haha
1194  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: January 05, 2015, 02:00:14 AM
For what it is worth I do believe they were hacked. (or maybe self hacked)

How do I know?

December 26th I purchased a firehasher. Deposited the funds to buy one. Purchased one and afterwards my BTC balance showed 2+ BTC. When I made my deposit from coinbase it showed the deposit 3 times. (those who used coinbase have seen that error before.) Because it looked like I had deposited multiple times I did a 2 BTC withdraw. Later when I had time to review my coinbase account and saw that I only deposited one time I contacted Hashie and asked them to audit my account because something had to be wrong.

Next morning  I received threatening emails about a bug in their system and how I owed them 2 BTC. (which was true) I send the BTC back to them and then made the purchase a second time. (And you know the rest, never received first payout, everything fell apart right after)

For what it is worth the emails I received from Sarah seemed legit at the time - Here is the first one



Hello,

We have recently audited our systems and discovered that you have made a number of withdrawals of which you are not entitled to. Our investigation discovered a bug in the pricing algorithm of one of our products, allowing users to obtain fake balances by purchasing the product. Withdrawals resulting from this bug are unauthorized.

Our records show you owe Hashie an amount of 2.1198 BTC.

Hashie hereby requests you to return the sum of 1.48386 BTC (70% of the amount) to 1HaShiEAAhhkVW8fdTpg1mu2ikLVZcxtg2 within 24 hours of the receipt of this email. Hashie will allow you to keep 30% of the amount if you promptly return the unauthorized payments.

Your activities may constitute a criminal offense under s.478.1(1) of the Criminal Code in the Commonwealth of Australia, in which Hashie operates. Furthermore, your activities may constitute a criminal offense under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, of United States which you reside in.

Hashie takes this matter seriously and will seek law enforcement assistance if this matter is not voluntarily resolved.

Best regards.



I did find it odd that they only asked for 70% back. For the record I did send the entire amount.

Also when I noticed the 2BTC in my account the price of firehashers was -1.0987 (or whatever it actually was)  A hour later that was corrected. So someone purchased hundreds or thousands of the firehashers and immediately withdrew funds. This "bug" was gone when I looked a few hours later.


OMG REALLY you need to put big red letters when posting funny shit like this. I was taking a drink of beer and spit it all out when i busted up laughing so hardcore. Ahhhh man good stuff if i wasnt getting over being sick and throat was still not sore would have been even better lol  Shocked
1195  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: January 05, 2015, 01:55:56 AM
would you keep the Frost coin in cold storage???

What is Frost coin ?

Itīs just another episode in this here soap opera.
Why Frost coin, not shitcoin?  Shitcoin really fits Hashie Much better, do you not all agree?
no shit coin cause i think gaw already took that one lol  Grin
1196  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 05, 2015, 01:54:33 AM
S2 0.0002 today

Umisso 0.0003

This is sad. A LOT of people including me lost a lot of money on this. Bitmain is half to blame since they did that Christmas sale instead of an IPO. If bitcoin does not go up in price I am afraid UMISOO will be doomed.

I think bitmain is innocent in this case. At $280 and next difficulty +10% coming in few days price 0.0003 means ROI 100+ days which is just OK in cloud mining. With BTC price crashing there is nothing too much to do with this situation. You can watch live ROI recalculations at nextdifficulty.com

The price would not be this low though a drop yes but not this low. Bitmain created 3 huge 300btc walls which are very hard to overcome. We overcame one and they put another 300btc in its place 24 hours later.
i know seems like the sales they had just went up so fast, almost feels like should have bitcoin sitting there just waiting for sales like this but they run risk of no sale. In that case would be no different than having bitcoins in wallet  Cry
1197  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anybody here uses Shift or Xapo debit card? on: January 04, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
I don't really like Xapo Debit card. It seems a bad choice for me. I suggest ANX Debit card now. Their support is great and their service too.

There is 2 offers though I don't whether it is expired or not. Get A FREE ANX Premium Debit Card Now! and Get a $1000USD Grand Prize from ANX

   ~~MZ~~
i seen anx card but the fees for each use do not seem good , i like no monthly fee but come on $1.25 for each transaction purchase at store is something else. Even prepaid normal visa or mastercards are not raping people like this.

Hi DARKANGEL6415,

I am not sure where you read that about the fees on our card. There is no POS purchase free on any of our cards.
For our ANX Premium Card, the only fee there is is when you withdraw from an ATM.
https://anxbtc.com/pages/#/card-compare

If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Have a Happy New Year.
i am really glad you on here i wont ask private question i will just put it on here. So the card from ANX from what i seen has no fees except to take out money at atms is this correct. All purchases from online stores like amazon or at local stores like walmart or gas stations will NOT have any fees correct. There is also no cost to load the card is this also correct? If all the following are correct how does ANX make money to keep going? Also are the cards a visa or master card logo. In the mean time while this is answered i am trying to find where i seen fee comparison between Xapo and ANX. Also forgot to ask does the ANX cards ship to people in the usa and how long does it take and does the card come in our personal names? Is this card also allow you to spend in real time like Xapo card where it auto sells or do we have to do the work and how do we deposit into it cash, bitcoins other alt coins?

1. It is correct, there are no fees on the ANX Premium card, except for ATM withdrawals.
2. There are no fees on any POS/Online Purchases.
3. There are no card loading fees.
4. We aren't telling you Tongue
5. I believe that the ANX Premium card is a Mastercard card, but I am not 100% sure.
6. Yes, we ship our cards worldwide.
7. No, the card will only have "ANX" printed on it as its name.
8. Our card currently doesn't support the Xapo functionality to auto sell on purchase.
9. You can deposit Bitcoins onto your ANX account, and then load it onto your card. The bitcoins will be exchanged into USD and then stored on your card.

ok here is where i had seen about the fees for ANX card i made this in seperate " reply " so my above post still gets answered. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ken-lo-ceo-anx-hong-kong-bitcoin-exchange-talks-bitcoin-debit-cards/
also here is the ones for xapo http://www.coindesk.com/xapo-faces-online-backlash-debit-card-fees/  thanks you i dont want to put anyone on the spot light i just want clear answer. Also what kind of regulation and protection do you all have for USA, thanks for answers and happy new year  Smiley

That article is very old. You can find a new table with our current fees here.
For protection, your card comes with a PIN. I'm not sure how stuff like this works in the USA, but here in Europe you have to put in your PIN on every POS purchase.
perfect thank you for answering my questions. I am a little bit concerend as to the card not having a name on it is there a reason for this. I travel alot and use hotel services and fly alot / rent cars. How will i be able to use this card to book a hotel, get a plane ticket, or rent a car if there is no name on t they can match to my ID? I open account just now and submit verification after reading this answers and got message saying they will send me a code by mail? Is this mail coming from the USA or is it from somewhere else where we have to wait long time. I also see they offer free card if account is verified by January 31st 2015 but i see it only applies to the card that holds funds in HKD that would charge me $30 to use the ATM lol. Is there any was to get the Premium card without paying high shipping fees and what is the delivery speed between registered mail and expedited mail to the USA

1. I don't think there would be any problem with that.
2. It comes from our offices in Hong Kong, but the delivery speed is very quick. It should take less than a week.
3. I would suggest to simply get the HKD card and upgrade the shipping to get the ANX Premium card. You can also just get the ANX Premium card, load 0.9BTC, and we will give you the card cost back.
ok i will see what i can figure out cause noway i am dropping $300 0.9btc into something i have not tried out yet or see how will work for things like hotel rentals or airplane tickets.

You can try to ask the specific company in question. As far as I know, in the US, there are prepaid debit cards which don't have a name, and you can pay for Hotels and Airplane tickets with those, so there shouldn't be a problem.
i understand what you are saying but i stay at hilton hotels and i can tell you right off bat. They need a credit or debit card that has persons name on it to work / match id. Only exception they make is on company credit cards that have business name on them. As for airlines i am sure they might have issue but never know. Is there any reason why ANX will ask for verification information but not send cards out with peoples name they verify?

The verification information is to make sure that you are an actual human, and to comply with  KYC/AML laws. We cannot issue cards with names printed on them because that would be far too costly, since we would have to personalize each card. We simply order a bunch of cards from our partners, and distribute them, which is why they only have "ANX" printed on them.
What you could try is to sign the card at the back, and then provide the same signature when you are paying.
Ok i will try this see if it works, maybe can offer customers option of hey if you want name printed on them you can order it but will cost money..... just saying
1198  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Is Xapo a scam?? on: January 04, 2015, 02:32:46 AM
I dislike Xapo because of their customer support and I heard their debit cards we not any good.  That's why I personally stick with ANX, Xapo seems kind of fishy.  Their vault is useless, stick with cold storage.
I actually have a ANX premium card on its way to me. I do not like how the cards do NOT HAVE a persons name on it. Rather weird i dont understand reason. I mean come on they verify account but cant print name on cards is so weird.
1199  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Is Xapo a scam?? on: January 04, 2015, 12:41:01 AM
3 withdrawls from here with zero issues so im gonna have to say they are not a scam at least for now
I dont personally think Xapo is a scam, i just am really mad i cant get a card sent to me in the USA. I am trying to find me a Canadian address or Canadian mail forwarding mail service to people in the USA. Trust me i really want this card but it is not being made easy for me to get this and dont see any good news in sight  Cry

i would love that but the way the USA is it'll be a while before we see a decent BTC debit card i bet Sad

I thought there was going to be some crazy revolution in bitcoin since bitcoin ATM`s were coming out or something.

So no point in on btc debit cards.. unless they dont have the ATM`s at certain locations. I find the btc debit card situation no needed though, since it can be purchased through coin base.
coinbase too slow we want the card for faster access to the US dollars Smiley
Yeah coinbase is to slow for real life usage works great to buy and all but not to spend in real stores. I wonder why coinbase dont have a debit card seems weird and loss of profits
1200  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 03, 2015, 08:29:20 PM
Wow, never thought I'd see the day that Daffy would turn on em...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27661/good-news-paybase-update/79

dam i guess push came to shove on here  Lips sealed
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