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1281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much btc do you need to secure your future? on: January 31, 2021, 09:42:31 PM
Okay... so whats a good number for someone in the western hemisphere then?  Thus the US or Canada where the costs are much higher than other countries?


Would most agree that number probably is at least ten btc minimum?
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RE-ANN][SHIFT] ShiftNrg Phoenix | Web 3.0 | Substrate on: January 31, 2021, 09:40:01 PM
How do we get the big exchanges to list SHIFT again?
1283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dogecoin with over 200% increased, what happen? on: January 31, 2021, 07:42:21 AM
Im curious but when this happens, what percentage of ppl who bought doge still own it now?  I mean the ones that bought it at two cents or so... i got to assume most sold it when it at least doubled right?  Also when it was being bought... who was actually selling it?


For example if you owned dogecoin and want to sell it... when the pump happened... wouldn't you not want to sell because the price keep going up etc?  I assume only ppl who put like an order of automatically sell their dogecoin at two cent or whatever amount, were the ones that mostly sold it when the pump was happening?
1284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There's nothing special about BTC, you will make MUCH more $ in the stock market on: January 31, 2021, 06:56:16 AM
I never invested in stocks and am curious about this.  But to those who have invested with stocks, would you recommend it?


Always heard if you could make 7 percent a year... that is very good.  But aren't most people in stock market traders and not holders?
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Stable coin is the Best for Investment This Year on: January 31, 2021, 06:41:28 AM
Can you store these stablecoins like usdt and usdc etc in a wallet like ledger or electrum?  Or does it always have to be in an exchange?
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why Dogecoin Goes High? on: January 31, 2021, 06:33:56 AM
I'm curious but when the reddit people posted about dogecoin... did most people on the forums able to notice it quickly to be able to buy it?  Because it went from one cent all the way to 8 cents... but now it dropped back all the way down to two cents etc.


So wouldn't that mean if you know when the reddit people will start buying and you see the price start pumping, you immediately buy it?  Then look at the price and once it hits a certain price... or say it hits a price then starts dropping, then you sell it for profit?  Thus have a set price you want to sell it at?



1287  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BlockFi Interest? on: January 23, 2021, 04:53:32 AM
oeleo i get what you mean with your last paragraph...


But if you are speaking about blockfi here... and they are associated with gemini... then isn't it almost risk free?


And to that person that said if you had million dollars... buy btc at the price now... and you could possibly double it in a bull market.  I get what you mean by that... but that isn't a guarantee.  If you have it all in stablecoin as in the usdc or gemini coin... then isn't that as safe as you can get?  How much percentage were ppl getting on lending on bitfinex a while back?


But surely there are ppl that do this on blockfi?


I mean... imagine someone with a million dollars.  Put the whole thing and buy stablecoin... earn 86k a year without worrying about any fluctuation of that coin since its pegged to the dollar.


Has there been any disaster or bad stories of anyone doing this on blockfi though?  Of course you have other scam sites which can do that... but blockfi ... isn't it as legit as you can get?  I read they give this much interest because they lend to others at a even higher rate... so there is no concern etc.
1288  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BlockFi Interest? on: January 22, 2021, 06:53:38 AM
Okay so if someone here had a million dollars  in crypto or in the bank... wouldn't it make sense for someone to put it all in blockfi and buy the stablecoin of usdc or gemini coin or paxful coin?  Then earn interest from it then?  At end of month, you going to earn more than 7000 usdc or gemini dollars... do it for the year... then you have l,086,000 usdc/gemini coin.... then sell it all for fiat... cash out to your bank account... and you make like 85000 dollars usd that way... is my math correct?  Im discounting l,000 dollars in fees because if you sell l,086,000 usdc on blockfiat to fiat... how much fees you pay?



I gotta wonder... for someone who put that much money in it... when blockfi processes the withdraw... they are extremely careful with it right?  Like imagine the entire process of when a person wire a million in cash or crypto to them... then sell it all for stable coin of usdc or gusd? 



I mean... someone could test it out by sending say smaller amount... then putting the big amount to do it right?  Thus imagine someone with million dollars worth of crypto.  Send 5k there.  Then trade it all for usdc or gusd?  Then wait a minute... earn some money for the month.  Then send the rest of the million dollars there.  Sell it for stablecoin/gusd... then wait a year... make over 86000 dollars?  I mean... thats a lot of money a year in passive income for doing nothing if you have a million dollars in crypto... or the bank... dont most of you agree?  I have to assume there are ppl that are doing this with big amounts?  Of course i dont mean like a million... but imagine some with 6 figures.  Thats a lot of money in 8.6% interest if you do it all in stablecoin since you can immediately sell it for fiat.
1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you trust USDT? on: January 22, 2021, 06:27:04 AM
Im confused why ppl still dont trust usdt.  Ever since it came out... it always have came close pegged to the dollar right?  What was the lowest amount tether went down to?  I recalled years ago... it might have hit 0.97 or 0.98 right?  And what about the highest?


So why should there be any concern about it since well you can always trade it for btc or in fiat exchanges... you can change it to usd?
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stablecoins with highest interest rates? on: January 21, 2021, 04:56:12 AM
Does anyone here or know anyone here that put a lot of money into stablecoin and earn money off the interest?  This seems way too good to be true... like i saw you can earn 8.6 percent interest on usdc... so someone with a million dollars can earn 86,000 usd a year?



1291  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] 10 fake wallets on Google Play - please report them on: January 18, 2021, 10:26:36 PM
Do these fake wallets also have a ton of reviews though to make it legit?  Before i download any app to my iphone... i check to see how much reviews it has etc.
1292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My email and phone have been hacked, is my bitcoin safe? on: January 18, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
Okay so many people have mentioned about that fake ledger email which almost everyone seem to have gotten who have a nano ledger.  You said you clicked on the link and that did nothing but took you to empty page but then your email and phone got hacked.


Wouldn't this mean they put a keylogger then on your computer?  Thus anytime you type in... they can read it?  Which is how they hack into your email such as everytime you log into email, you type in your email?  But the phone... that has to be the sim attack? 


Now wouldn't that mean anything you type now in your computer... is visible to the hacker?  I heard of viruses and malware... but isn't keyloggers the biggest concern since they basically see everything you type in?  Such as imagine you put your seed in an encrypted document but the moment you open it... couldn't they see it?
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: NANO coin - why is it not hyped? on: January 17, 2021, 09:41:03 PM
Did anyone bought this coin when it was like ten cents or below?  I recalled it was one of the coins with the highest roi ever once it hit over thirty dollars right?
1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Wagerr speculation thread on: January 17, 2021, 09:40:21 PM
you can still bet using wager coins in the book right?
1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: What exchange to use a US Citizen Abroad? on: January 17, 2021, 08:34:55 PM
Choices for US citizen to trade on a decentralized exchange is very limited like they have to choose coinbase or Kraken and Gemini. They can use the exchange without KYC verified but it is not safe for your funds, they can freeze your account at any time and will ask for the verification.

Have you considered using any DEX? yes, I know the liquidity is less but if everyone from that country starts using it will give enough liquidity for sure in a very short time.



What is DEX? 


Well what exchanges are US users using for altcoins then?  Since they use coinbase/gemini/kraken for btc/eth... what about altcoins?  Back then it was binance/bittrex.  But now its only binance.us but i heard they don't have that many coin selection.  And bittrex... its banned in many states.
1296  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Where to sell BTC for higher markup price? on: January 17, 2021, 08:32:20 PM
But are there people that are paying one percent or even two percent more for btc nowadays?  Or vice versa?

lots of high feedback traders obviously make a decent profit selling above spot or buying below. it can take weeks for people to verify on an exchange, deposit money, and then buy---these people are willing to pay high premiums. untrusted users are also paying a premium to deal with trusted users.

keep in mind, if you plan to advertise buy/sell offers or otherwise engage in this "as a business" then you may be required to register with the relevant money services business regulator. i've been researching the rules in the USA: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308020.0

running afoul of those regulations could land you in prison, so be very careful! learn the law and stay on the right side of it. similar regulations just went into effect in the UK too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308411.msg56067476#msg56067476

What platforms are reliable?  Im American but im outside the US though.

localcryptos is my favorite---no KYC and they allow p2p cash listings, unlike localbitcoins. the liquidity is lacking compared to localbitcoins but it's definitely growing.

The thing is what is the most common form of payment in these transactions?  Is it still cash?  Or bank transfer?  Or cash deposit in bank?

Because i heard online transfers could be reversed.  So wouldn't the most safe form of accepting payment be having the buyer deposit cash in your bank account?

bank transfer/cash deposit seems to be the most common method these days. personally i only deal with cash because 1. privacy (avoiding banks and prying eyes) 2. reversal/dispute risk.

i've read about cases where even cash teller deposits were reversed. buyer deposits money, the bank credits it, the seller releases escrow, then the buyer returns to the bank and claims they deposited money into the wrong account. the bank reverses the deposit.

there are ways to hedge the risks of dealing with online fiat, but at the end of the day there is always counter party risk. any online fiat method which claims to be irreversible is not really irreversible.
 

Yea i heard about if you are buying/selling btc like a business, you need a license.  I always thought that was weird.  So its fine buying/selling btc in an exchange like coinbase/gemini/kraken but if you sell it to other ppl for bank transfer and vice versa... you need a license?


Well do most users who have high feedback who do this... are they mostly buyers of btc at discount or sellers of btc at a premium?  Like if someone has cash and want to buy btc but don't want to use exchange... do they typically pay more than face value or less than face value?  Is it hard to be a high profile buyer/seller though?  Localcryptos... so you have experience with it?  So do you mostly buy or sell btc there?


Well when you deal with cash... don't you have to make sure you check every bill is legit if you sell btc?  Like you bring a ink pen to detect every single one?  And isn't it awkward when doing that when checking every bill?


Yes i heard of cash teller deposits getting reversed.  But i heard this had to do with only if the that person deposits it that day... and goes back to the bank on the same exact day and tell them they made wrong cash deposit in wrong account.  If its the end of the business day... then they can't reverse it.  That is what you mean right?


I heard some online transactions with fiat is not reversible... but i think its based in europe? Something called webmoney or so?  But aren't bank wires almost always not reversible?

1297  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Where to sell BTC for higher markup price? on: January 17, 2021, 08:24:54 PM
Well Im outside the US now... but im American with a Us bank account.
Then you can still transact with people in the US using your US bank account, as long as you can still access your bank account.

But these person to person ... are they almost always meetings as you meet the other in person?  Or its mainly ppl communicate via forum and then payment and trade is made like that?
If you picked a physical person-to-person transaction, then you'd meet physically, obviously. Banks, malls, or whatever other secure location both of you prefer. If you picked an online transaction whereas you'd use online bank transfers, then obviously you wouldn't need to meet in person(unless both of you wanted to).

Because for example if there was a way i can go on a forum and trade with someone when there is some escrow service... well that would seem nice.  But if you do that... wouldn't that mean no much profit to be made since you have to pay that escrower?  Also... do ppl who sell btc in these situations... get less than face value or more?  
Peer-to-peer(p2p) platforms have their own escrow services integrated with their service.

And yes, you pay fees for the escrow. Regardless, you can still gain price premiums of course, depending on what price you chose to buy/sell bitcoin.



P.S. Seriously though, just check out the p2p platforms I've mentioned so you'd have an idea on how they work lol.



Yea i have access to my us online bank account... i use online banking. So i could trade boa or zelle etc.  Yea i would do online whether its selling btc for bank transfer or buying btc... though im talking mostly about selling btc now though.

Well if you meet someone physically... then wouldn't almost always payment be cash?  Or have them deposit cash in bank?  Other thing is this.  If its cash... isn't it going to be a bit awkcard counting the cash out there in that location?  And making sure all the bills are legit and not counterfeit?  I mean imagine someone does that for 5k cash or even more.   I mean then there is safety issue and everything.  Like how often do you think ppl sell btc for cash in person and transaction is 5 figures +?
1298  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Best Exchanges for US Customer To Buy/Sell Crypto to US Bank Account? on: January 17, 2021, 08:21:20 PM
In terms of fees... which is the cheapest?  Example imagine i want to sell 5k usd worth of btc for fiat bank transfer to my boa account.

binance.us, hands down. 0.1% trading commission when you sell, free ACH bank transfer to withdraw fiat.

So which do you use?

i'm using centralized exchanges less and less these days, and i'm trying to avoid KYC. the only exchange i've completed KYC at (years ago) is coinbase pro, so that's who i use. i wouldn't necessarily recommend them though.


Hey... i had no idea that was going to be your answer.  For sure i thought it was going to be coinbase pro or gemini.  I know it can't be kraken or bitstamp since they don't use ach... only wires.


But what are the fees for coinbase/coinbase pro and gemini?  I had no idea binance.us has the lowest fees for trading and it doing fiat.  If thats the case, why don't i hear much about them?  I mean... they have the lowest trading fees... but also does fiat deposit/withdraws?  How is that not number one then?  Since all i hear is coinbase/coinbase pro and gemini and maybe kraken with US users?


Why would you not recommend coinbase pro?  I have coinbase account verified a long time ago.  I went to try to get into coinbase pro... seem to ask few questions like what is your employment and few questions before it would let you continue.
1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 17, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
OP, what other coins would you recommend now to buy?  I agree with your logic that buying eth now is not going to make you that much returns... like try getting 5x... that isn't going to happen with ETH in a long time.  Even doubling it is hard.  Doing it with altcoin much easier but of course but riskier.
1300  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BlockFi Interest? on: January 17, 2021, 07:53:45 PM
If a year ago I bought $100,000 of GUSD at $1 each, I would have 100,000 GUSD. If I then gave them to BlockFi to gamble "invest" on my behalf, then today (assuming nothing went wrong) I will have 108,600 GUSD worth $108,600.
If a year ago I bought $100,000 of bitcoin at $8,000 each, I would have 12.5 BTC. If I then held them in my own wallet, then today I would definitely still have 12.5 BTC worth $437,500.

I see what you were referring to now. But then again it all resumes to managing risk:

  • In terms of historical returns, nothing beats Bitcoin for sure.
  • Perhaps it is wiser to have some fiat compounding as well and not keep everything in BTC.
  • I think a % based portfolio allocation strategy should be employed. For me these lending platforms are somehow similar to P2P lending where you lend money to different projects, so I think even a 30% allocation in any of these digital finance platforms (as long as they are not insured by a financial authority, is too aggressive)



I get what oeleo is saying here.  Had you kept the btc as oppose to sell it for say GUSD... the value you have now with btc will be higher than the interest you earn with just buying the stablecoin gusd.  But the thing here is you have to look at the price of btc.  With Gusd... its a constant 8.6 percent.  So if someone is risk averse... why not take that?  I mean 8600 dollars on l00,000 usd is a lot of money in a year.  Again if someone had a million dollars... thats 86000 usd dollars. 



Like if you want constant income stream coming in... wouldn't it make sense to put it in a stable coin like Gusd?  Like imagine having a million dollars in the bank... send it to gemini... buy a million in stablecoin... gusd... then make 86000 usd a year. 
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