If you claimed BCH from electroncash, then moved it to a hardware wallet.  But you did this after the bitcoin SV fork date.


Do you need to do anything at the moment with your BCH assuming its in a hardware wallet?


I no longer have electrum/electroncash installed on my pc anymore.  But would these need to be installed before I download electrum sv to it?  I keep hearing mention of replay protection but needing to sweep the BCH address etc.

Thing is why do very rich people even care that much about money anymore?  Example, Michael Saylor talks about buying more btc for microstrategy.  He is already super rich.  What is the purpose of getting even more when he could probably just relax and not have a single care in the world?


Thus people with like 50 million dollar networth etc...whats even the point anymore for them?  They going to have enough money to last them and their generations forever.

Has anyone here claimed bitcoin sv and gold recently?

If you are trading btc, eth and those most popular coins, having coinbase and binance is more than enough.  Having just coinbase is enough would you agree?  But if you are restricted to how many exchange accounts you could have... due to your location...then what are your options if you want to trade altcoins?



Example say you could only use coinbase and can't access binance or even binance.us.  Thus any of those new coins that you see come out, you can't buy unless coinbase lists them.  What do you do?  Binance requires KYC but also they don't allow people from certain regions.  You cannot vpn because even if you do, well when they KYC you, then you cannot do anything.



So how is it possible for someone to trade but more specifically daytrade... if say coinbase is the only account they could use in their location?  Say every other exchange, they are restricted due to their location.  I heard there is Defi but I don't know anything about his.  I also heard of pancakeswap... so that doesn't care where you are located and no KYC? 



For example if someone is a daytrader and trades altcoins, if you have access to coinbase and binance... that is more than good enough.  Then if you add say FTX, kraken, kucoin, then you pretty much have everything set up.



But what about people that want to trade those new coins whether its a memecoin or not and its not in coinbase yet?  How do people handle this?  I remember how back then people wanted to buy dogecoin... only to find out... hey coinbase doesn't have it etc. 

So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  

I do think the way the desktop wallet exchange works is important here.  I mean... you could log in by email, ledger or software.  I am confused how come I could login via LEDGER and enter the same password that I use for SOFTWARE.



Well me logging in SOFTWARE to access my waves nano ledger account is what I found strange. However, that is how I created the waves nano ledger account.  It was through logging in software and password and then switch account, add account ... and then eventually created the waves nano ledger account that way.



The one thing that has me confused right now was before I logged in SOFTWARE and before I created a waves nano ledger account, could I have instead open waves exchange desktop client and clicked on login by LEDGER and then enter the same software password and created and account this way?  At the time I was confused because I thought... I never created a password for a LEDGER account, how could I even log in this way?  I did not try entering my SOFTWARE password and see what happen.  I thought I had to click SIGN UP via ledger but the issue is it gives you a message that you cannot create a non email account on the same pc.



No you cannot see your entire portfolio in ledger live with waves.  Waves does not display there.  It's been mentioned waves does not work with ledger live.



Yes I had tested sending waves from waves nano ledger account... whether I logged in via SOFTWARE or LEDGER... and each time I attempt to do this... with the nano ledger connected to the laptop, it would then display everything on the nano ledger device to confirm the transaction and then the transfer went through.  



I am just wondering how many people created a waves account linked to ledger this way.  I got to assume a very small percentage.  Again, its the way I created a waves nano ledger account... is completely different than how most people do it... so I wanted to know if I did it correctly.  Because I had followed the waves representative steps on this when doing it... and they made several mistakes later on... which is why I'm not confident everything is done correctly. 

Do you guys have any comments to my last post?  Again... I can log in by LEDGER or SOFTWARE option with the same waves password.  I get access to all 3 of my accounts this way... the waves nano ledger account and the 2 seed phrase accounts.

To anyone that store their waves with nano ledger and LOGIN by LEDGER... can you also LOGIN by SOFTWARE option and enter the same password and log in that way and thus access your waves nano ledger account that way as well?



So I spoke with waves reps on this and even they were confused.  That is the reason why I am describing it in detail.



I opened wave exchange desktop client.  I then decided to click on login by LEDGER.  I entered the same exact waves password I use for login by SOFTWARE.  When I did this, I was logged in.  I still do not know why this is possible with the same password.  Because when I created a new waves nano ledger account under SOFTWARE login, I remember they never asked me to create a new password.  So its essentially the same password. Waves representatives said it should been a password I created during the process when I created my waves nano ledger account and I mentioned they never asked me to create a new password.



I see I am logged into my waves nano ledger account address.  First off, waves representatives told me I needed my nano ledger physically connected to my pc if I click login by LEDGER... they were incorrect in this.  The person was surprised that I was able to log in to my account this way without the nano ledger connected to my computer.  Then a bit later they said they were incorrect.  You do not need the ledger connected physically to log in with LEDGER option.



Now when I go to switch account, I literally see the other two seed phrase accounts as well.  I have the same exact accounts showing... two seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account.  So if right now I close waves exchange desktop client.  Then open it again and login by SOFTWARE... its of course the same three accounts.  I then told waves reps on this and they said yea... you are right.  So basically there is zero difference whether I login by LEDGER or SOFTWARE because I'm entering the same exact password.  I have access to all three accounts... the waves nano ledger account and the two seed phrase accounts.  If I want to do a transaction with the waves nano ledger account, I need to connect my nano ledger to my pc whether I'm logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE.  For the seed phrase accounts... doesn't matter if I"m logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE, i don't need the nano ledger connected because those are seed based accounts.



So based on this, does this all sound confusing to you?  I had few poster say I shouldn't click on the SOFTWARE option and should click on LEDGER to log in.  It's literally the same exact thing.  Unless waves reps made another mistake somewhere in this.  When I had typed in my SOFTWARE password into LEDGER Login and it worked, I had thought the only account that would show up is the waves nano ledger account.  Why is my two seed phrase accounts also connected as well then?



So let say I uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client.  And then login with nano ledger device... I know I would need to create a new password but would this would also mean it is going to restore all three accounts including the two seed phrase accounts OR only the waves nano ledger account?  So if you restore it with the nano ledger seed phrase, will it restore all three accounts or just that waves nano ledger account?

What stopped me from claiming these coins?  Well when these forks happened in the beginning, all I heard was people getting scammed because I downloaded fake wallets etc.  I didn't even do the bitcoin cash fork until much later etc.  That was the only fork that seemed simple, download electroncash and input your electrum seed phrase and your bitcoin cash was there.  Then you send it to another wallet.


Well assuming you moved any btc from your main wallet, then claiming all these coins is still risky doing it on VM or new computer?  My thought would be once you claim one coin, you send that coin to a wallet or exchange and then download the next wallet etc.  So if you download a fake wallet or malware, well any coin you claimed previously would have been sent to another address already?


But as of now, how many total bitcoin forks can you actually claim?  I know you mentioned BCH, BSV, BTG and Bitcoin diamond and private as the most important ones and those are the ones you would claim.  But there seem to be lots of other coins as well.  The big issue besides claiming it... would be could you even sell it to an exchange?  Because I figure anyone that would claim all these forked coins, you claim it, send to exchange and sell it for btc or usdt and not deal with it anymore.

You are telling me if someone did not claim anything at this time, someone could have claimed this much for each btc they had back then?  What is that number right now?



Also its true that forks like bitcoinx or something like that was worth few hundred dollars if you claimed it all the way back then?  I never heard of that even back then.  All i heard was bch, btg and bsv etc.



The thing is if there is zero harm in trying to claim all those forks, then why don't people do it assuming they know how to do it?  If they use a separate pc or use a VM like you, then isn't there no harm really?  I assume there is risk in that any forks you did claim, u need to move it immediately from that wallet in case any new wallet you download might have malware? 

Did you do this with SV and BTG?

The issue here is I no longer have electrum and electroncash installed on my pc.  So I would need to resintall both of these programs on my pc to get these addresses?


I do remember I had a ton of change addresses on my electrum such as you saw tiny bit of btc in many different addresses.



Also the other issue is where would I even send or sell these bitcoin forks?  I know i could send BTG to my nano ledger.  But I don't see any site or exchange where I could send the BSV to?  With bitcoin diamond and private where would I even send these coins to?  I don't mind keeping them or just selling them.  The last thing I would probably want to do is keep these coins in their own wallets... which might even have malware etc.  But I would not want to download these wallets on my main computer etc.

If you get any malware or keylogger on your pc, do hot wallets of yours automatically become at risk?  For example let say you have software wallets on your pc like electrum or exodus etc.  Those are protected by your seed phrase.  But of course when you log in your pc, you type in your password to each of the accounts to log in.



If you get some kind of malware or anything like that on your pc, does that mean a hacker literally could record any keystrokes you done and literally open your electrum or exodus or other software wallets with the password and then send the coins to their own wallet?  Thus this way even if they don't have your seed phrase it doesn't matter because your computer is compromised?



So could a virus do that?  Or only keyloggers and malware?  I also heard of RAT - Remote Access Trojan... so that would be another method?  So whether you have your computer turned on or not, they literally could empty your software wallets if you just have your password?  Whether your password was typed... or say your password is in a password manager and they could record any keystrokes of you entering your password manager or whatever you are copying/pasting with the password for electrum or exodus?  I also heard if you have teamviewer installed, you need to remove that as well.  So keyloggers, malware, RAT, teamviewer... and what else can cause this? 



If you click on a link and it downloads something to your pc but you do not open it, are you still safe?  If you click on a link but do not do anything are you safe as long as you don't enter anything?



Now if you use windows defender which is free and say malwarebytes the free version, you could catch these malware very easily?  But if you have paid computer security like bitdefender or kaspersky and programs like that... it would detect it the moment you download/open it?  So windows defender isn't as strong and would allow it?



Also what about visiting websites?  I heard of sites where you go there, it would automatically download into your browser.  But if you have bitdefender, kaspersky and those things, would that protect you? 



What about visiting a website that shows as insecure but you are manually entering it and visiting it?  If you click on that website, bitdefender and kaspersky would give you an alert?  What about windows defender?

Is there a reason for people not to claim these forks?  I am confused why some people don't bother with it assuming they know how to do it.


The only fork i claimed was BCH and that was downloading electroncash and typing in my electrum seed phrase and then sending the BCH to my nano ledger wallet.


I have not claimed BSV, BTG, or bitcoin diamond and private.  The last two... seems even more complicated.  But if you do have a spare windows pc, shouldn't everyone go and claim it?  Because even if you don't care or believe in it, why not claim it and then send it to an exchange and sell it immediately for btc or usdt and just cash out?   


The only reason I think someone would not do this would be they don't know how and if its risky for them to claim in on their main computer?


But as long as you moved the btc, then you would be fine.


So is there a reason why very few people claim the forks?

So this is going to probably be the most important post here.



So I spoke with waves reps on this and even they were confused.  That is the reason why I am describing it in detail.



I opened wave exchange desktop client.  I then decided to click on login by LEDGER.  I entered the same exact waves password I use for login by SOFTWARE.  When I did this, I was logged in.  I still do not know why this is possible with the same password.  Because when I created a new waves nano ledger account under SOFTWARE login, I remember they never asked me to create a new password.  So its essentially the same password. Waves representatives said it should been a password I created during the process when I created my waves nano ledger account and I mentioned they never asked me to create a new password.



I see I am logged into my waves nano ledger account address.  First off, waves representatives told me I needed my nano ledger physically connected to my pc if I click login by LEDGER... they were incorrect in this.  The person was surprised that I was able to log in to my account this way without the nano ledger connected to my computer.  Then a bit later they said they were incorrect.  You do not need the ledger connected physically to log in with LEDGER option.



Now when I go to switch account, I literally see the other two seed phrase accounts as well.  I have the same exact accounts showing... two seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account.  So if right now I close waves exchange desktop client.  Then open it again and login by SOFTWARE... its of course the same three accounts.  I then told waves reps on this and they said yea... you are right.  So basically there is zero difference whether I login by LEDGER or SOFTWARE because I'm entering the same exact password.  I have access to all three accounts... the waves nano ledger account and the two seed phrase accounts.  If I want to do a transaction with the waves nano ledger account, I need to connect my nano ledger to my pc whether I'm logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE.  For the seed phrase accounts... doesn't matter if I"m logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE, i don't need the nano ledger connected because those are seed based accounts.



So based on this, does this all sound confusing to you?  You telling me I shouldn't click on the SOFTWARE option and should click on LEDGER to log in.  It's literally the same exact thing.  Unless waves reps made another mistake somewhere in this.  When I had typed in my SOFTWARE password into LEDGER Login and it worked, I had thought the only account that would show up is the waves nano ledger account.  Why is my two seed phrase accounts also connected as well then?



So let say I uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client.  And then login with nano ledger device... I know I would need to create a new password but would this would also mean it is going to restore all three accounts including the two seed phrase accounts OR only the waves nano ledger account?  So if you restore it with the nano ledger seed phrase, will it restore all three accounts or just that waves nano ledger account?

Okay so this is where the confusion comes in and I get what you are saying.  If I didn't know anything about waves and read what you posted, that makes complete sense.  But the thing is that isn't exactly how the waves exchange client works exactly with the nano ledger assuming you have the waves exchange client downloaded on your computer and you already log in with a seed phrase account.



I spoke to waves support on setting this up.  They said because I already log in by clicking on waves exchange desktop client and then software and then enter my waves password, I thus log in and have access to my two seed phrase accounts.  I would click on switch account to go to the other seed phrase account.  They said I need to switch account/add account/import accounts/ledger in order to add a nano ledger account address.  Does that make sense?  Thus I created a waves nano ledger account... when I was logged under the software option.



Because are you implying when I first want to create a new waves account linked to a nano ledger... I need to click signup... and then click on ledger?  Because that is how I thought the process would be.  Instead, I got that message below which doesn't allow you to create an account via ledger option.  


You have already created a not email account and you can log in to it using this link




That is what prevented me from creating a new waves nano ledger account this way.  I thought you would create a new waves account to nano ledger this way then create a new password... then it would connect your ledger device to confirm that is linked.  Then you would go login software... to access your seed phrase account and then send the waves to the waves nano ledger account address.  Once you do that, then each time you log in, it would be clicking on login by ledger and enter password and you are in. That is what you think is suppose to happen right? Because it does not allow you to sign up for an account via ledger option.  It doesn't even allow you to create a new seed phrase account if you go to software.  The only way to create my waves accounts via seed phrase... is log in to the software and enter password, switch account and then create a new account by seed phrase.  Does that make sense?



As of right now, I access my waves nano ledger account by waves exchange desktop client and then software and then entering waves password.  Yes... that is correct, I access it by the software option.  Basically after I log in with my waves password, I would be in either one of my two seed phrase accounts or the waves nano ledger account.  So if I want to go to one of the other accounts, I just click switch account and click on that account and I'm there.  Does that make sense?  The thing is I'm sure if you had a waves wallet and had to do this, you would completely understand exactly what I mean by this.  Even the very knowledgeable person who posted in the waves thread who helped answer many of my questions... tells me... the way waves gives the instructions is not that clear if you already have a waves seed phrase account and already log in to it on the same computer.



I was told by the waves poster that the account I log into software when i enter my waves password... is like a waves master account.  That waves master account can contain as many seed phrase accounts as you want.  You can create as many seed phrase accounts as you want. He also said you can also create ledger accounts as well. So that is how I created it.  Does that make sense or not?  He used the term waves master account and I thought that was a brilliant term for it.  But I want to know are there other waves users who log in the same way as I do right now.  Because as of now, it seems I can send/receive from the waves ledger account.  Does this make more sense to you or not?

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Okay let me ask you this simple question.  Say you have waves stored in a seed phrase like most waves users.  Each time you log into the waves exchange desktop client by software and entering your password to get in your account.  Lets say you only have one waves seed phrase account and thus you immediately see your account and balance since you only have one seed phrase account under software login.


You want to then move these waves in your seed phrase account, to a new waves account that is linked to a nano ledger.


Tell me the next step you are going to take.



Are you going to close the waves exchange client and then



Open waves exchange client again and click sign up and choose ledger option?


Open waves exchange client again and click log in and choose ledger option?  


Or what is the exact next step you are taking?



After you answer this question, then you would understand why there is a lot of confusion in this.

When I last restored my waves seed on my computer, it restored all my waves on it.  I can't just restore a tiny amount of waves in it because it would restore the entire waves amount in the seed phrase.  Thus that is why I want to move all my waves to the nano ledger.  



I have already sent a small amount of waves from one of my seed phrases to the waves nano ledger account address and it worked.  But remember, I'm doing this while logging into the waves exchange desktop client by clicking on software and then entering the password.  My waves nano ledger account is shown when I click on switch account... you see the waves nano ledger account and the two waves seed phrase of mine.  I then sent the small amount of waves from the waves nano ledger account... to the waves seed phrase account... and when this was done... i had to confirm the receiving address and transaction on the nano ledger itself... which to me proves this waves nano ledger account is linked correctly. I want to know if doing that transaction from the new waves nano ledger account to the seed phrase account confirms 100% that it is linked.  Because the poster here who is knowledgeable said it sounds like I did it right.  But I wanted to know if that is 100%.  I only used my nano ledger to send and receive btc and that is all and that is simpler because it works with ledger live.  Waves exchange desktop client doesn't work directly with ledger live.



Because right now, the way I basically get into my waves nano ledger account... is by logging in and clicking on SOFTWARE and entering my waves password that I created a while back.  And I assume many people who have their waves linked to nano ledger... is instead logging in and clicking on LEDGER and entering waves password to get in.  Does that make sense?  I want to know... do I need to change the way I LOG INTO my account or it doesn't matter.  What exactly is the difference between opening the waves exchange desktop client and logging in with second option of LEDGER vs... third option of SOFTWARE?  It is literally the same thing right?  Or if you choose the LEDGER option, you actually need the ledger plugged in before logging in?  It sounds like you cannot even your ledger account if you choose this option?  Because the poster who is very knowledgeable about this told me... when I am logged into my waves seeded phrase account, I could create as many seed phrase accounts as I like... but I also could create a nano ledger account as well... which is the most important thing here which is what I did.  And that is what I did when I created the new waves nano ledger account.



But I want to know do I need to change the way I login into my account or just keep it the way it is?  It works fine now but my concern is if I remove the waves app and reinstall it... or if I ever need to restore my nano ledger seed phrase and the waves nano ledger account doesn't restore properly because the way I log in now... doesn't seem to be the way people login with their waves in a ledger device.  Does that make sense?



I can send a tiny amount of waves from the seed phrase to the waves nano ledger account AGAIN.  But how do you want me to mess up every option?  I do not want to uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client and reinstall it because if I do, I need to restore my two waves seed phrase accounts again and create a new password with it. Now whats the issue with this?  Well I am increasing my risk because if my computer has any malware or anything like that, typing in my seed into the waves exchange desktop client would be risky.

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jc12345 had posted these steps for me


Steps:

1. Install latest Ledger Live (LL) on your PC (v2.37.2) as of posting
2. Setup your Ledger device in LL and upgrade the firmware [(Nano S v2.1.0), Nano X v2.0.2)]
3. Go to Manager in LL and install the Waves wallet app (v1.1.4)
4. Close LL as you will not need it further for Waves at this point
5. Connect your Ledger device to your PC and open the Waves app
6. Open Waves Exchange on your PC
7. If you do not have an account on Waves Exchange create one and set a password. If you already have an account go to step 8
8. Click on Login top right
9. Click the middle block "Ledger or Waves Keeper"
10. Click the top block Ledger
11. Enter your password
12. In the popup menu select your device eg. Nano X
13. In the popup menu click connect
14. A message will appear on your Ledger device which you need to accept
15. Once accepted on your device you are in the exchange
16. If you don't have an account linked in the Exchange yet, click on import account and select Ledger and go through the process

In your case if your WAVES is in another account only protected with a seed phrase, then do the following steps:
1. Once you get to step 16 above, make a note of your WAVES address from your Ledger device that appears after importing an address from your Ledger (top right)
2. Switch accounts top right to your account where the WAVES is in your seed phrase account. Send only one WAVE to your Ledger WAVES address that you noted down
3. Switch accounts to your Ledger WAVES address and see if the one WAVE has arrived successfully.
4. If the test transfer was successful, switch again to your seed phrase wallet and send the rest of your WAVES to your Ledger WAVES account.
5. Switch again to your Ledger WAVES account and see that all the WAVES have arrived.
6. From that point on only work from your Ledger WAVES account via the Waves Exchange
7. And don't forget to first send any tokens that you want to keep also to your Ledger WAVES account and make sure you leave enough WAVES for the transaction fees.




Step 9 is where I got confused.  At this time, I only had my 2 waves seed phrase accounts.  Then he say to click on login and click on ledger and then the rest of the steps to step 16.  I clicked login but it ask for a password.  How can I even log in if I never created a password for login via ledger?  If you instead click sign up and click on ledger, I get the error You have already created a NOT email account and you can log in to it using this link.   I believe wave support told me click on log in software instead to get into my seed phrase accounts.  Then once I did that, I went to switch account, add account.  But if you look at the instructions from the waves site, they want you to click on ledger device.  But don't you need to click Import Accounts at the bottom before clicking on ledger Ledger Device?  Its like the waves site missed an important step because after you click add account, someone could easily just click continue instead of import accounts first.  The site has you click on ledger device on the next step when the only thing you can click on is continue or import accounts.  



I never did step 9-12 and never saw this doing it the way waves told me to do it.

Can waves support or another waves holder here who uses waves with nano ledger confirm this statement to my question by poster jc12345 is indeed 100% correct?  If so, then I believe I did link my waves to nano ledger correctly.


I said


Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account.  When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account.  I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger.  I could see the balance in all of these.  So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right?  Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in?   It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper.   For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount.  I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option?  But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?



He said

When you initially created your Waves Exchange master account, it was a shell to add in any other wallet addresses you have. These addresses can be software accounts which you load by typing in a sequence of words or "seed phrase" as you call it. You can also add Ledger wallet addresses. All these addresses that you add will go into your master account on Waves Exchange. If you want to get rid of this, then move all your Waves from all your software wallet addresses to the wallet address on your Ledger device, then all your Waves will be safe. Then you can uninstall Waves Exchange and re-install, create a new master account and only link your Ledger Waves addresses, then all your old Waves wallet addresses will be gone. Should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seedphrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account.




Right now I am logging into my waves exchange master account by clicking on software and then entering my password.  The key point here is he said you can also add ledger wallet addresses.  Thus my waves nano wallet account was added this way.  I have two seed phrase accounts and one waves nano ledge account once I log into my waves master account via software password.  I can keep it like this as my way of login even after I send all my waves from the other seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account right?



He says I can uninstall waves exchange and reinstall and create a new master account and only link my ledger wallet addresses with the second option of ledger as oppose to software.  So doing this would have me create a new master account with new master password right?  But is there any difference between doing that... compared to just the way I log in now?  Security is still exactly the same thing right?  He mentioned it is.  I would like to also hear from people who have their waves stored in their nano ledger... but also have a waves seed phrase account as well on the same pc.   I mean if I could just send all my waves from all my seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account... under the software password login... can't i just keep it like this?  So each time I log in, it would be click on log in by software, then just using the waves nano ledger from there?  Or if say it shows one of my seed phrase accounts with 0 waves, just click switch account to the waves nano ledger account and then do everything from there?



He mention should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seed phrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account.  So you are telling me if you log in by the second ledger option, you can also add software seed phrase accounts as well?  So basically your waves exchange master account... whether you log in by ledger or software, is essentially the same thing?  So why do people log in with ledger... vs software?



Also why is there not more discussion on this?  This is much more complicated for people that already have a waves seed address with waves in the waves exchange desktop client... and then wanting to move the waves to the nano ledger.  I would not be shocked if someone makes a mistake somewhere during this process such as thinking they did it correctly when they didn't.  There is literally no video that shows on how to do this where you are doing this under the software login option.

Okay I am going to make this as simple as possible to not sound confusing.  



For anyone that has waves and store them in their nano ledger.  How are you logging into your account?


Open Waves Exchange Desktop Client or Open it on Browser.  

Click Log In

On the option of Access my account, option is email, ledger and software.  Does almost everyone click on ledger to login using your ledger device?  My issue is right now... I am still clicking on software.  Then I enter my waves password to it... to access my 2 waves seed phrase accounts and the 1 waves nano ledger account I recently created.  



Should I be logging in with the second option of ledger device... as oppose to software... if I then move all my waves from the seed phrase accounts to the nano ledger account?  If I still want waves in my seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account, do I keep it the way I am using it right now?


The thing is I have not seen anyone mention they log in to their waves nano ledger account the way I do.  Which is log in via software option... then switch account to the waves nano ledger account since I have 2 waves seed phrase accounts.


My concern is because I am clicking on software and then my waves password to get to my waves nano ledger account, if something happens to my computer or nano ledger... the way i have it set up is not correct.... compared to people who just created a waves nano ledger account and clicked on log in by ledger device as oppose to software.  Does this make sense in what I"m saying?  I do know you can switch account and add as much accounts you want in software... but I want to make sure there isn't any issues with recovery because the way I have it set up... I don't hear anyone have their waves nano ledger set up this way.

Right now if I want to access the waves nano ledger account, I need to open waves exchange desktop client.  Enter my waves local password.  Then after that, I am logged into either one of my two waves seed phrase accounts... or the waves nano ledger account.  I learned that whichever account my waves exchange desktop client is on...  before I close the program... is always the first account that shows up when I open the waves exchange desktop client.  So say I'm on one of my seed phrase accounts and then close the client.  Then open client again... it will show that... but then I go to switch account, then click on the waves nano ledger account.. you can clearly see which one is the account without even looking at the three different waves addresses because the waves nano ledger account has like a ledger or qr code on the icon of that account.  Does that make sense?



I have logged into that waves nano ledger account and had waves sent from one of my seed phrase accounts.  But most importantly, I did a transaction when I sent a bit of waves from that waves nano ledger account to the seed phrase accounts... and when I did this, it asked me to confirm the receiving address on the nano ledger s before I do it.  I clicked confirm and then the transaction went through.  So because of that statement, that means I connected my waves nano ledger account correctly right?  Otherwise, what I just did was not possible?



Again my concern is assuming you have waves in your nano ledger account, the moment you open the waves exchange desktop client, most people I assume would click log in by ledger.  I am still clicking log in by software.  But again the reason for that is because I have wave seed phrase accounts on my computer first.  



Now if this is your first time creating a waves account and linking it to nano ledger, that is simple.  You just watch the video.  But if you already have waves in a seed phrase account and have those waves stored in your computer, then you cannot do what is shown on the video because it won't let you create an account via ledger.



If I uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client... you want me to reinstall the waves exchange desktop client.  When I go and create a new account, do you want me to do it by ledger or software option?    Are you saying click on the ledger option?  Then once I do that, I need to connect my nano ledger to my pc and then open waves app and then see if its there?  Is that what you mean?  Now I do know if I choose the software option and then enter my waves seed phrase, it would then show up.   I would then do that for the other waves seed phrase.  But would I then restore the waves nano ledger account under software option or not?  The thing is there is no point of me restoring my waves seed phrases now on the pc because I know the seed phrases for each is correct.  I am mainly talking about the waves nano ledger accont.

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Okay I am going to make this as simple as possible to not sound confusing.  



For anyone that has waves and store them in their nano ledger.  How are you logging into your account?


Open Waves Exchange Desktop Client or Open it on Browser.  

Click Log In

On the option of Access my account, option is email, ledger and software.  Does almost everyone click on ledger to login using your ledger device?  My issue is right now... I am still clicking on software.  Then I enter my waves password to it... to access my 2 waves seed phrase accounts and the 1 waves nano ledger account I recently created.  



Should I be logging in with the second option of ledger device... as oppose to software... if I then move all my waves from the seed phrase accounts to the nano ledger account?  If I still want waves in my seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account, do I keep it the way I am using it right now?


The thing is I have not seen anyone mention they log in to their waves nano ledger account the way I do.  Which is log in via software option... then switch account to the waves nano ledger account since I have 2 waves seed phrase accounts.


My concern is because I am clicking on software and then my waves password to get to my waves nano ledger account, if something happens to my computer or nano ledger... the way i have it set up is not correct.... compared to people who just created a waves nano ledger account and clicked on log in by ledger device as oppose to software.  Does this make sense in what I"m saying?  I do know you can switch account and add as much accounts you want in software... but I want to make sure there isn't any issues with recovery because the way I have it set up... I don't hear anyone have their waves nano ledger set up this way.