Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game.  If you only use coinbase, you cannot buy these coins.


I see both of these are available on pancakeswap.  Anyone can use that without restriction right?

Right now I'm going to verify electrum on my main pc.  


Download and install Gpg4win on the pc.  After all this is done, kleopatra opens up now.


Go to electrum site.  Is the first thing you are suppose to do download ThomasV key first?  I just took a look at the instructions and it has him import ThomasV key first BEFORE even downloading electrum windows installer and the signatures link right next to it?


What I did earlier was I downloaded electrum first before even downloading the Gpg4win.  Does it matter which order you download it?


I ended up downloading electrum windows installer, the signature link to the right of it... and finally the ThomasV file in blue all together.  I then imported the asc file to it.  For some reason few times it doesn't seem to import correctly?  Kept showing 0 imported but eventually afterwards it got imported after some trial and error.  I had created name and fake email.  But you need to make sure the user id gets certified first right before you right click electrum-4.1.5-setup.exe -> More GpgEx options -> Verify?


Because when I kept on right clicking the electrum-4.1.5-setup.exe -> More GpgEx options -> Verify.  I can't getting unsigned signatures.


But then I right clicked on the Thomas Voeglin imported certificates and clicked certified and then it certified.  Then after some other clicking, I got that popup box with it showing three Thomas and three check marks and I click okay.


Then went back to the  electrum-4.1.5-setup.exe -> More GpgEx options -> Verify.  It finally shows the message of




Verify Files - Kleopatra
All Operations Completed

Verified electrum-4.1.5 setup.exe.asc' : 3 valid signatures                                        Import  637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                                                                                                                           Import  0EEDCXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                                                                                                                           Search  637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Signature created on Thursday July 22, 2021                                                          Search  0EEDCXXXXXXXXXXXXX

With unavailable certificate
ID:  Ox637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You can search the certificate on a keyserver or import it from a file


Signature created on Monday July 19, 2021
With unavailable certificate
ID:  Ox0EEDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You can search the certificate on a keyserver or import it from a file


Signature created on Monday July 19. 2021
With certificate
Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) <thomasv@electrum.org. (2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6)
The signature is valid and the certificate's validity is fully trusted.



As long as I see this message above, even if I did some trial and error clicking to get there... that proves the electrum is genuine right?  I just kept clicking import, certify, and eventually got here at the end.

Hey.  Well I did not know that it displays the last 8 bytes.  That would be completely new to me as I didn't read that in any guide at all etc.


Well I was looking through many guides.  This one, youtube, few ones online, not one of them seem to be hassle free.  Each one always has an issue where at some point, you go how come it doesn't go smoothly etc.



I am now going to do install electrum on my main pc now.  I had tested this on my other windows pc. 



Tryninja, before you listed those steps you posted, is there anything you recommend me not do before I get there to where I was at... before what you said basically confirmed the electrum I downloaded is legit?



Thanks.

I downloaded electrumSV from


https://www.electrumsv.io



I then tried to verify electrumSV by just properties and checking it that way.  Can others here confirm that is all that is needed as long as the details show signed by BitcoinAssociation?

TryNinja thanks. 


Do you agree that the instructions that were given aren't that clean and concise?  I had a feeling when I saw you post, I knew I was going to figure out how to verify it soon because always you, HCP and a few others... are very clear and then I figure it out.  Of course the other posters here are helpful but i just kept getting stuck each time.


Also one last question.  To set up electrum right now, do i click on the electrum setup or the electrum setup.exe to set electrum up right now?   Okay that was a stupid question.  The electrum setup exe file is the signature.  Do I delete it or just leave it there?  Don't remove the gpg4win right?

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is there a reason I did not see any of this in the verification?


6694D8DE7BE8EE5631BED9502BD5824B7F9470E6 which is ThomasV public key?  I thought at some point i would compare this on electrum with this code to see it match?

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Okay i downloaded the signatures file next to the windows installer file


I see in my downloads folder right now


Thomas V
gpg4win-4.0.0
electrum-4.1.5 setup
electrum-4.1.5 setup.exe


I then right click on electrum-4.1.5 setup.exe and clicked VERIFY



It shows


Verify Files - Kleopatra
All Operations Completed

Verified electrum-4.1.5 setup.exe.asc' : 3 valid signatures                                        Import  637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                                                                                                                           Import  0EEDCXXXXXXXXXXXXX
                                                                                                                           Search  637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Signature created on Thursday July 22, 2021                                                          Search  0EEDCXXXXXXXXXXXXX

With unavailable certificate
ID:  Ox637DBXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You can search the certificate on a keyserver or import it from a file


Signature created on Monday July 19, 2021
With unavailable certificate
ID:  Ox0EEDXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You can search the certificate on a keyserver or import it from a file


Signature created on Monday July 19. 2021
With certificate
Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) <thomasv@electrum.org. (2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6)
The signature is valid and the certificate's validity is fully trusted.




For the ID:..... I just typed in the first few characters and just put XXXXXXXXXXXXX for the rest.



So does this mean my electrum is legit?  How come in the direwolf instructions, you don't see like three signatures and only one and its the last one which is the email?

Hey Tryninja.  Thanks for responding to me in the thread.  I remember you always being very clear with everything like HCP when helping me out.



Are you talking about the electrum-4.1.5 setup file in my downloads folder?  I am not sure if its an exe file or not.  It does not display the words exe in the title of it.  I had downloaded this electrum file at the beginning of this process and clicked on windows installer. 

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TryNinja.  I already posted this earlier when someone asked. 


When I right click on the electrum downloaded file and verify... i get a new box that opens


Decrypt/Verify Files - Kleopatra


Choose operations to be performed
Here you can check and, if needed, override the operations kleopatra detected for the input given



Input file:  c:/users/myname/downloads/electrum-4.1.5-setup.exe


No check mark on   Input files is a detached signature
Signed Data (But its greyed out along with a whole line where there is a folder icon at the end)     If you check the input for this, you can click on a file tho choose for signed data.


No check mark on   Input file is an archive:  unpack with




Check mark on      Create all output files in a single folder


Output folder:  c:/users/myname/downloads




The only thing i can do on this page is either click on Decrypt/Verify... or cancel


Or


Click on those two input files and make it a check mark...If I do check the Input file is a detached signature, right under it... Signed data which is greyed out is no longer greyed out and you can click on a folder and pick a file

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Did everyone here get asked to create a passphrase during this process after entering a name and email?  I checked the comments of the earlier youtube link i posted and someone said this and the video creator was shocked and surprised on this and said that is over odds.


There is zero information on any of the guides besides the youtube video guide that ask you to enter a name and an email password.  And they have the passphrase to create in the video which for some reason doesn't appear for me.  Someone mentioned yes thats in the process... yet no discussion at all about this earlier.  That is why this is frustrating.



Also what has me confused now is in the youtube video, you see the guy download the windows electrum file by clicking on installer.  Yet how come that files shows like an exe file though?  Literally every guide that i looked at, if you follow each of them, you will get stuck at one point or another because they either use confusing words or omitted a step or two. 

I'm frustrated man.  For something that should take few minutes only from what others say, this isn't even simple at all.


I literally followed direwolf instructions here and multiples times i got stuck.  I mentioned there were two other guides... one was a youtube guide... yet the way they did it is different.  The other guide said to only check kleopatra only and uncheck the other two things. 


Then look at this other guide.


https://coinguides.org/verify-electrum-signature/


This one has you download the signature file early on.   Yet none of the other guides even tell you to do this early or at all.


I am frustrated there is no instruction guide where you could follow it step by step and everything would be a breeze.  When I followed direwolf guide, towards the middle/end of it, I get stuck and khaled tells me you suppose to have the electrum exe file and the electrum asg file after he ask me to right click electrum and verify and he tells me now i should see if its verified or not.  I tell him i see something completely different.


Thats when I wondered.. where in the instructions did it say to download electrum file by clicking on the standalone executable in direwolfs guide?  Anyone that is told to download a file would click on windows installer.  I am just frustrated how come there isn't simple easy to follow instructions for something as important as verifying electrum.  I have been using computer for many years on windows.  But anything I download I just use it.   So im not like a computer newbie. 

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What I don't get is why steps aren't simplified easier.  Imagine something like this.


Go to electrum.org and download it.  If you have windows, click on windows installer or standalone executable.  Leave no doubt what download means.
Go to Gpg4win website... of course put that the exact website link... then click on download


Obviously having pictures would be helpful as well. 



But let say I figured out how to do verify electrum.  If I were to create a thread on verifying electrum... the steps i write down in a guide would be as clear as possible to anyone on this forum.  I would leave almost zero doubt to someone... who would go... i'm confused or I'm stuck etc.  I cannot believe the guide to verify electrum is this complicated when people say it should take minutes. 








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In what part of direwolf instructions had you download electrum installer exe?  There was zero mention of this.  All it said was download electrum so I clicked in the installer and then it downloaded.  You are telling me I'm not suppose to click on windows installer and click on standalone executable instead?



Anytime i ever downloaded electrum, I always clicked on windows installer.  I never even heard of anyone clicking on standalone executable to download electrum since the preferred way is always windows installer.  



When you say save electrum installer exe and the signature file asc files on the same directory, can you explain it in a way where someone that isn't that tech savy could understand?  Do i just left it and thats all or i need right click it and save link as?   I had wondered why in the youtube video and in the other instruction they mentioned these two files... since I thought how do you even get an exe file.

When I right click on the electrum downloaded file and verify... i get a new box that opens


Decrypt/Verify Files - Kleopatra


Choose operations to be performed
Here you can check and, if needed, override the operations kleopatra detected for the input given



Input file:  c:/users/myname/downloads/electrum-4.1.5-setup.exe


No check mark on   Input files is a detached signature


No check mark on   Input file is an archive:  unpack with




Check mark on      Create all output files in a single folder


Output folder:  c:/users/myname/downloads




The only thing i can do on this page is either click on Decrypt/Verify... or cancel


Or


Click on those two input files and make it a check mark...

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khaled- If you are telling me what I typed below is not what is suppose to show after you right click electrum download setup file and click verify... then I don't know what to say.  


What has me frustrated is when you have people say verifying electrum should not take more than a few minutes, yet the instructions are not even as clear as possible... and three different instruction tutorial shows literally three different ways to verify electrum, that is a problem.


Multiple times already after clicking something or doing something as in the instructions, I get some weird or strange message pop up that I never seen before etc.  I can't believe there isn't an updated video on youtube where someone shows how this is done and you could clearly follow step by step how to do all of this.  That youtube video that I had looked at, even if i followed that video step by step, I would wonder how come it didn't ask me to create a passphrase like in the video after putting in name and a password.

I got what i posted above...

The electrum I file I downloaded is called


electrum-4.1.5-setup



Is that correct?  I clicked on more gpgex options and verify.



Do i just click decrypt/verify as is?  Or do i need to put a check mark to input file is a detached signature?  If you do that, the singed data line opens  up where you can type something to it.

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At the bottom theres a check mark on


Create all output files in a single folder


output folder:  c:/uers/myname/downloads

I just saw a message of shows certificate successful.  But it doesn't look anything like the pictures in direwolf photos with a popup with green text.  There was nothing like this.  It literally shows a small message in a box that said shows certificate successful and that was it...


Also at no point did it even ask me to create a passphrase to protect my key...

Shows certificate successful.


I now see the user id as certified.  So that is done correctly right?



Now when i click on my certificates, I also see my name and email that i created right above Thomas.  So there is suppose to be my account and Thomas account on all certificates now?


Also, im confused why it shows




All certificates   Imported Certificates  Imported Certificates


Why is there an extra imported certificates tab?  IF you click on either of them, its the same exact thing?




How come I never got to the message  of The software will check the integrity of the .exe file and compare it to the signature file.  If the signature matches the .exe file you'll see a window like this pop up with green text:  Also when am i suppose to click on signatures next to windows installer?  You said I have to do this in the end.

I right clicked on the Thomas Voegtlin and just deleted it.  Then I clicked import and imported the same ThomasV.asc file.  Now I see what I believe I'm suppose to see



Certify Certificate:  Thomas Voegtlin (https://electrum.org) - kleopatra

Finger print  6694 D8DE 7BE8 EE56 31BE D950 2BD5 824B 7F94 70E6
Only the fingerprint clearly identifies the key and its owner
Certify with    white check mark with green background my name- my fake email


Then you see the three Thomas with check mark on each three of these.




Click certify?

I know its supposed to be simple.  Just look at my post above to see what shows up in my next page after i enter a name just fake email address.  It gives me a key pair long key.  Then i just click next and now im in a page where I never seen before in any instruction.

This makes zero sense.


After I entered my name and put in a fake email address.. i just put email@email.com then clicked next.  It showed a key pair i created?  Why does it do that?  I wrote it down on paper anyway.


Then I click next and it shows


Certify Certificate  - Kleoptra


Fingerprint

Only the fingerprint clearly identifieds the key and its owner.


Certify with   -   Shows check mark with my name -  email@email.com (certified, created today's date)   You can click on the dropdown menu on this but its only option



You can't even click on certify.  Its that or cancel.  There is also advanced and when I click it it opens


Certify for everyone to see (exportable)  unchecked

Expiration   unchecked

Certify as trusted introducer   unchecked



What in the world is this?

Okay I am on imported certificates and right click certify.


Then i get message to first create an OpenPGP certificate for yourself.  Do you wish to create one now?  I click yes.


I still need to enter a name and email right?  Does the email need to be an email I use and have access to?  It shows optional but I can put a fake name but make sure the email is an email i have access to?  I don't want to use my primary email for this but should I?  I do have a few other emails.  So use that?

What I typed above is under imported certificates.  If I click on All certificates, its the same thing there... EXCEPT you can't see the full words not certified and its like not cer...   and you don't see the full key-id... unless you stretch it?



If I rlght click on Thomas Voegitlin under all certificates or imported certificates, yes i can click on certify.



Do i do this under imported certificates or all certificates or it doesn't matter?