Has anyone heard about this?  I thought the only big bitcoin forks were BCH, Bitcoin SV and Bitcoin Gold.  There is of course bitcoin diamond and private.


But from what I read, you getting a million XEC coins for every BCH you own?  So essentially for each BCH you own right now, its worth a bit less than one Bitcoin SV?  If this is true, how come I have never heard about this fork? 

So I read apparently if have bitcoin cash and SV, you also get XEC which is Ecash?  Is this true or not?  I heard you get this and the value of it is actually a bit less than Bitcoin SV?

Can the moderator who posted my thread in the service discussion forum delete it as it should be here?  



I had asked in a thread here on how to verify ElectrumG and gotten few replies on it and I appreciate that information.  I would first want to claim my bitcoin SV first since that is higher value.



I had btc in electrum throughout every single bitcoin fork.  Then sent the btc from electrum to nano ledger.  I only claimed my BCH a while back when I entered electrum seed into electroncash and BCH was there.  Then sent the BCH to my nano ledger and it's been there ever since.



I want to claim my bitcoin sv and either keep it in the wallet or another wallet.  From what I check online, you can use electrumSV with nano ledger, or use software wallet like trustwallet and atomic wallet.
I know I could also send to exchange and sell it.



https://electrumsv.io/


I took a look at the instructions for verifying electrumSV.

https://electrumsv.readthedocs.io/en/releases-1.3/getting-started/verifying-downloads.html




Has anyone here done this with electrumSV and it was easy for them?  I am doing this on another windows pc.  I looked through the instructions and I see there are like three ways of verifying it.  The first method seems very simple and it doesn't require you to do much beside just check what it says and just match it... is that enough?  Says in article that it should be enough.

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I took a look at the digital signature method and that appears correct.


When I try to do the second method of command prompt and used certutil, it doesn't seem to work.


Then you need to change the directory until you are in the same directory as the file you wish to get a checksum for. The cd command is used for this. Then you can use the certutil command to generate a SHA 256 checksum for that file. The syntax is certutil --hashfile <filename> SHA256, but remember you need to replace <filename> with the actual file name. You can see an illustration of this in the image below.



But how do i make sure i'm in the downloads folder before I do this?




It shows


c://windows/system32


But when i enter everything as mentioned in the steps, it did not work.  I know I'm making a mistake here as I remember I had to make sure I'm in the correct folder and last time when I tried to verify ledger live, HCP told me I was opening it from the wrong area.  Can someone here tell me what I'm doing wrong specifically here?

To those of you with no issue with kucoin and trading and withdrawing without KYC... are you US citizen or using it from the US though?

Does anyone here only use linux as their main pc though?  Wouldn't that limit them from programs that require windows?

But does kucoin care about your citizenship or you location?  What about your IP address?  All I want to do is after I claim my bitcoin sv in a fork, i send the bitcoin sv there... then trade it for btc or usdt and then just withdraw to my hardware wallet.  Will that be an issue?  The amount I would withdraw is way below a BTC that any withdraw limits wouldn't be an issue.  Again this would be a one time thing because i would want to sell the bitcoin sv.

I like to add... I would either coinbase or gemini to cash out the funds to fiat USD.  But from checking online, gemini does not support any stablecoins besides GUSD?  Coinbase supports USDT but only ETH chain. But I read coinbase pro supports USDT Tron?  So if this is the case, would the cheapest option be trade bitcoin sv for USDT Tron?  Now could I have USDT Tron sent directly to coinbasepro exchange or is that a bad idea?  I always heard sending funds from gambling sites to coinbase and vice versa is bad.  But what about with exchangers like changenow?  If I have the USDT Tron sent directly to coinbasepro, how much fees do I pay to convert that amount of USDT Tron to FIAT USD on coinbase pro?


Or is it best to convert bitcoin sv to btc and then either have the btc sent directly to coinbase pro and then sell it for FIAT?  Or is it better to have the btc sent to your own wallet from changenow... then send the btc to coinbase pro? 



The thing is in the first scenario, well if I have USDT Tron sent to me first... and then me sending it to coinbase pro... I would need to have USDT Tron in order to send the USDT Tron from my wallet to coinbase pro which I do not have.  Thoughts on all these options?  Again its converting Bitcoin Sv into Fiat.

I want to claim the bitcoin sv fork.  After I claim it, I would want to sell it.  My issue is lot of the exchanges, I do not believe I could use due to my citizenship and location.  And they might KYC you because of it.


Someone had suggested if that is the case, use those exchange sites like changelly and changenow and I see these two exchangers do have Bitcoin SV.


Now if I want to trade bitcoin sv, what should I convert it to?



I just took a look at those exchanger sites.  Apparently changenow allows trading of bitcoin SV.  I took a look and see if i trade bitcoin Sv for other coins like btc or say stablecoins... it shows the amount you would get.  Now as of right now it seems that bitcoin SV prices is around 85.60 right now.


Now if it convert 1 bsv to a stablecoin, this is what I would get for a BSV


84.256872 USDT Tron
83.837567 USDT ETH
84.236875 USDT OMNI
84.369794 USDT BSC
83.86977 USDC  ETH
84.363286 BUSD Binance Chain
83.935872 BUSD ETH
83.750564 UST  LUNA
83.990495 DAI  ETH
83.776892 TUSD ETH
83.949664 USDP  ETH
82.620064 GUSD  ETH



So basically the fee you pay for using changenow is around 1.3 to 3.5% roughly when changing to stablecoin?  But fee is usually around 2% on average?  Obviously that is a lot compared to a regular exchange but not bad if you want a way to trade it.


Why do they give you such a bad rate on GUSD?  The best rate seem to be USDT BSC for stablecoins.  I assume the best rate is because the fees for them to send it to you is cheap right?  That is why stablecoins on the Tron or Binance or BSC chain give you more for your BSV?



When I convert it a BSV to BTC, seems like you get around 0.0021419 btc which comes to around 84.48 per BSV which seem to offer the highest value?  So basically if you trading for a coin on these places, is trading for BTC going to give you the best rate for the coin you want to get rid of?



So you paying around 1.3% roughly to convert BSV to BTC?  So they make off money by giving you a lower rate right and nothing else?


When you do these transactions, how much sending fees are you paying on your end to send to them?  Example how much fees would I pay when I send BSV to them?  Is it the default BSV from my BSV vallet?  How long does it take normally for them to send you the coin you wanted for?  Do you need an email or anything?  Has there been cases where changenow or those sites take a long time to send you the coin?  Is it best to test a small amount first to see it works.  Then do the entire amount of BSV you want to do?

Yea it showed the signature that I posted.  But again, i basically did a ton of trial and error clicking import the same asc file again and then clicked certify when I believe a bit earlier it didn't work.  Then eventually that popup showed up with the three ThomasV email addresses with the three check marks and I click okay. 


I just know at the end, I right clicked on the electrum setup exe file and clicked  More GpgEx options -> Verify.  Then I got the signed signature verification.  But I was concerned if it could still get that message with me doing all this via trial and error.


Also, do I need that keypair long code that was created for me when I typed in my name and fake email address?  Seems to be like a keypair seed or something but that is completely useless right?

Okay thanks for all that information.


Well electrumSV does seem legit to me. I don't see anything about it like its a fake wallet as long as you go on the real site.


I do see that signed checksum and the public key.  


But you are still saying doing this is not for sure right because you don't know about the developer even though all those checksum and public keys check out?


Well electrumSV on the website, it seems like that is the main btg wallet out there... which is why I ask this.  The only other one i heard about is coinomi but that requires you to sweep which I don't have a clue how to do this.  The thing that confuses me is how come I couldn't find many old post of people said... yea I claimed my bitcoin gold by just downloading electrumSV and typing in my electrum seed and that is it.  I only read few comments on this from looking at old posts which is a concern.  And some of them mention sweeping being a requirement with majority of people using coinomi.


The other thing is I don't know why people don't claim these forks assuming you moved your btc from the main address when the fork occurred.  I know many people say thats a shit coin etc... but if you are using another computer and not your main pc... is there any harm at all trying to claim that coin?  Thus like BSV and Bitcoin gold?  If you don't care about the coin, I don't see any harm in claiming the coin and immediately looking for an exchange to sell it... or if there is a wallet that stores it... send it there.  

I just took a look at those exchanger sites.  Apparently changenow allows trading of bitcoin SV.  I took a look and see if i trade bitcoin Sv for other coins like btc or say stablecoins... it shows the amount you would get.  Now as of right now it seems that bitcoin SV prices is around 85.60 right now. 


Now if it convert 1 bsv to a stablecoin, this is what I would get for a BSV


84.256872 USDT Tron
83.837567 USDT ETH
84.236875 USDT OMNI
84.369794 USDT BSC
83.86977 USDC  ETH
84.363286 BUSD Binance Chain
83.935872 BUSD ETH
83.750564 UST  LUNA
83.990495 DAI  ETH
83.776892 TUSD ETH
83.949664 USDP  ETH
82.620064 GUSD  ETH



So basically the fee you pay for using changenow is around 1.3 to 3.5% roughly when changing to stablecoin?  But fee is usually around 2% on average?  Obviously that is a lot compared to a regular exchange but not bad if you want a way to trade it.


Why do they give you such a bad rate on GUSD?  The best rate seem to be USDT BSC for stablecoins.  I assume the best rate is because the fees for them to send it to you is cheap right?  That is why stablecoins on the Tron or Binance or BSC chain give you more for your BSV?



When I convert it a BSV to BTC, seems like you get around 0.0021419 btc which comes to around 84.48 per BSV which seem to offer the highest value?  So basically if you trading for a coin on these places, is trading for BTC going to give you the best rate for the coin you want to get rid of?



So you paying around 1.3% roughly to convert BSV to BTC?  So they make off money by giving you a lower rate right and nothing else?


When you do these transactions, how much sending fees are you paying on your end to send to them?  Example how much fees would I pay when I send BSV to them?  Is it the default BSV from my BSV vallet?  How long does it take normally for them to send you the coin you wanted for?  Do you need an email or anything?  Has there been cases where changenow or those sites take a long time to send you the coin?  Is it best to test a small amount first to see it works.  Then do the entire amount of BSV you want to do? 

Okay so the wallet you need to connect to either pancakeswap or uniswap is metamask.  I have heard of this wallet.  However... I have heard lot of hacks with this wallet.  Is that a big concern here?  Also I heard you can use it with your nano ledger?  But if metamask get compromised, then you risk only coins in metamask right?


The thing that has me confused is i hear about bad or malicious contracts with metamask.  So you could get your account drained this way?  But nothing touches your nano ledger coins right?  Thing I also do not understand is what is the point of using metamask with nano ledger if you still have risk of losing coins with metamask?  I thought if you connect a wallet with nano ledger or any hardware wallet, then the risk is gone?  Or its only if you make a mistake?  For example if you get that copy and paste malware and you copy an address and before you send it, you don't look carefully and confirm the transaction on your nano ledger, then its your fault as you clicked confirmed yourself.  Are you saying this is the same with metamask or its different?  When i hear metamask, first thing that comes up to my mind is hacked because that is all i hear about it.  So its basically like myetherwallet so to speak like an online hot wallet?  I remember how there were so many myetherwallets accounts hacked a while back.


Yea i would be considered a newbie when it comes to this.  I have traded a bit on regular exchanges only a little like on binance a while back.  But would you saying these exchanges are more complicated?  You can buy bnb and ETH on those exchanges right?  The other thing im confused is can someone explain why so many coins listed on uniswap shows pairs with Wrapped ETH?  Why is it not just called ETH?  Also you say pancakeswap uses bnb but how comes there is so many BUSD pairs?


Also in these exchanges, I do notice pairs with usdt.  So people would exchange coins for USDT and then withdraw to their own wallet etc?


Also is it easy to get scammed while using these exchanges?  Or does that involve NFT's?  Again I don't know much at all about all these things.  I just know the basics about the regular coins on exchanges like binance, coinbase etc. 

Well of course you need at least once exchange account to trade... then how could you even trade?  Now if you only had coinbase, you basically can't even trade much altcoins right?  Or imagine like bitstamp where they even give you lesser coins to trade.


Now if you have coinbase and binance, then thats more than enough because you basically have access to most coins right?  But not coins from pancakeswap/uniswap with those meme coins like shiba tron etc?


Put it this way.  If you only could use a few exchanges, which would be your must have?  I feel like you need one to cashout via fiat... like coinbase and one for altcoins like binance. 

Okay so gate io doesn't work then.


But with huobi and kucoin, being a US citizen... but I'm outside of the US quite a bit... is there any issue with me creating an account at either while in the US?  Or if I do so, use a paid vpn to do this?


If i use huobi and kucoin outside the US and thus with a nonUS ip address, this would be no issue?  Those btc withdraw amounts even at huobi is more than enough for me.  I am planning to claim my bitcoin SV fork, and then send it to an exchange to convert to either btc or usdt and then withdraw that to my hardware wallet.  The amount isn't even more than 0.06btc.  So that should be no issue?  I want experience from people who actually used huobi and kucoin on this recently as I don't want my funds stuck there when they ask for KYC... then because I'm a us citizen, i can't withdraw.

It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?

I want to claim my bitcoin SV fork and maybe sell it to an exchange for btc or usdt and then withdraw to my nano ledger hardware wallet.


The thing is I do not believe I am allowed to have accounts in any of these exchanges due to my location.


But do they require KYC?  Can I use vpn on it?  I remember not long ago, I could still use binance for a while and wasn't verified and they allowed up to 2 btc withdraw limit which is beyond more than enough for me since I only had a small amount to withdraw from binance.  I'm an American citizen but I'm outside the US quite a bit and binance no longer allows US citizens regardless of where they are located.  The only thing was I never logged into my binance account while I was in the US so binance never detected me since I never gave my KYC and always connected with a nonUS ip address.  I did not need to use a vpn either because of it.  But then they required everyone to KYC so I could no longer use binance.


Can anyone tell me if either of these exchanges allow me to deposit Bitcoin SV and trade it for btc or usdt and then withdraw without KYC?


Or regardless of the amount, i have to submit KYC?  My issue with KYC is I don't believe they would accept me due to my location and citizenship.  Could I bypass this though?  

I want to claim my bitcoin SV fork and maybe sell it to an exchange for btc or usdt and then withdraw to my nano ledger hardware wallet.


The thing is I do not believe I am allowed to have accounts in any of these exchanges due to my location.


But do they require KYC?  Can I use vpn on it?  I remember not long ago, I could still use binance for a while and wasn't verified and they allowed up to 2 btc withdraw limit which is beyond more than enough for me since I only had a small amount to withdraw from binance.  I'm an American citizen but I'm outside the US quite a bit and binance no longer allows US citizens regardless of where they are located.  The only thing was I never logged into my binance account while I was in the US so binance never detected me since I never gave my KYC and always connected with a nonUS ip address.  I did not need to use a vpn either because of it.  But then they required everyone to KYC so I could no longer use binance.


Can anyone tell me if either of these exchanges allow me to deposit Bitcoin SV and trade it for btc or usdt and then withdraw without KYC?


Or regardless of the amount, i have to submit KYC?  My issue with KYC is I don't believe they would accept me due to my location and citizenship.  Could I bypass this though? 

How in the world do you verify electrumG?  I am planning to download this in my other computer so I could claim my bitcoin gold.  I see mentioning of electrum verification.  There is even one on bitcoin Sv verification though I don't see any comments on this.


But there is none on electrumG?

Can someone explain to me this?  I literally see the daily highest net gainers to be coins like shiba tron which are like meme coins as they call it.  Almost all these coins when i check where its traded is almost always on pancakeswap or uniswap.


So basically if you want to trade these coins, you have to get account there?  But how are the fees?  Do you need ETH for this?  BTC is no use for those exchanges?

Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 


So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?