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1301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Non-Religious is now the largest religious group in America! on: September 26, 2018, 10:48:29 AM
You may not be practising your religion but you need to follow one.
Merely out of curiosity, what exactly does it mean to "follow" a religion without "practising" it? Does it mean Douglas Adams had the right idea with his Electric Monks?

Quote from: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
1302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am muslim, is there a problem? on: September 26, 2018, 03:16:26 AM
The problem is that BADecker's astounding level of ignorance is really not that unusual among Christians. Most Christians don't even understand their own religion, much less the history of Wahhabism. Hell, most of them probably can't even explain the difference between Sunni and Shia. It's really quite extraordinary, and would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Undecided
1303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: hydrocarbon energy is a dead end on: September 25, 2018, 04:58:24 AM
he almost succeeded. the problem is that this is not allowed to develop, because then it will not be necessary so much oil.
No, the problem is that wireless power transmission is inefficient and only works over short distances. All these "Telsa invented free energy and why aren't we using it?" nutjobs fail to understand two basic facts:

1) Wireless power is already ubiquitous and is used in pretty much every application where it's physically possible.
Seriously, wireless power is everywhere, even in your very home. Your electric toothbrush charger uses wireless power. You probably have many devices that use wireless power that you don't even realise.

2) More importantly, power transmission is not the same thing as generating and storing energy.
To transmit power, whether with wires or without, you first have to generate energy and then store it somewhere. Hydrocarbon fuels contain more energy per unit mass than anything short of nuclear power. When it comes to storing energy, there's literally nothing better than hydrocarbons; no battery even comes close. Producing energy from hydrocarbons is problematic, due to pollution and the fact that we'll eventually run out, which is where renewable energy comes in, but work is being done on using renewable energy to convert carbon dioxide and water back into hydrocarbons to get the best of both worlds. None of this has anything whatsoever to do with wireless power transmission, which is completely irrelevant to the use of hydrocarbon fuels for energy.
1304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will we be able to control Artificial Intelligence when it understands us more? on: September 25, 2018, 03:27:36 AM
Humans invented AI, doesn’t that mean we have control over it?
That's what they said about all forms of computer control, which doesn't always work out too well given that the current state of software engineering can be summarised as "computers never do what we want and nobody knows why because our whole industry is kinda just making it up as we go along". Frankly, this does not inspire a great deal of confidence in the safety of future AI development. Undecided
1305  Other / Meta / Re: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements on: September 24, 2018, 01:35:46 PM
This forum is so strict.
Most users is now Newbie. Kaka
That's no way to speak in public, young lady. If you ever want to earn merits on this forum, you'd better watch your language. It's "most users are now newbies." (And learn to swear like a grown-up, for fuck's sake.)
1306  Other / Meta / Re: Need help My bitcointalk account get banned!!!!! on: September 24, 2018, 10:27:13 AM
the laws are not fully understood
Oh, you didn't understand? In that case, I'll explain it to you: you broke the laws, so you got punished. That's how laws generally work. Hopefully now you understand why you will never be unbanned.
1307  Other / Meta / Re: Need help My bitcointalk account get banned!!!!! on: September 24, 2018, 09:32:44 AM
Thank you for all your attention. I will not repeat that action again.
You won't be repeating any actions again. Because you're banned. Forever. You and all your alt accounts. You're not welcome here anymore.
1308  Other / Meta / Re: Need help My bitcointalk account get banned!!!!! on: September 24, 2018, 08:48:01 AM
983 posts and only 1 merit? Obviously a shitposter. But just for kicks, let's take a look at that 1 merited post of yours:

Im not saying that the market and many of its assets falling is a good thing, but Im pretty sure that if u follow the concept of sell high and buy low, then this time would be the best time because many assets across the market rn`t in a good state. BTC and ETH can be bought at any time because there is great confidence that the price of these coins will show great growth in the future in any case
I think this is a good time to buy ETH because according to some experts, in the future the value of ETH will increase, even increase many times. From the beginning of 2017 until now ETH price has increased nearly 40 times, from $ 8 to $ 300.

Big surprise; it's plagiarised. Who'd have guessed?

Im not saying that the market and many of its assets falling is a good thing, but Im pretty sure that if u follow the concept of sell high and buy low, then this time would be the best time because many assets across the market rn`t in a good state. BTC and ETH can be bought at any time because there is great confidence that the price of these coins will show great growth in the future in any case

I think this is a good time to buy ETH because according to some experts, in the future the value of ETH will increase, even increase many times. From the beginning of 2017 until now ETH price has increased nearly 40 times, from $ 8 to $ 300.

Your account will not be unbanned. Go away.
1309  Other / Meta / Re: fokken Xalolex removed my precious posts on: September 24, 2018, 02:06:19 AM
he deleted it illegally
Well, in that case, I suppose we ought to take the matter seriously. Pray tell, exactly what law has been violated?
1310  Other / Meta / Re: Announcing the 🦊 Vulpine Order of Merit 🦊 on: September 23, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
Quote
An Error Has Occurred!
You can only send 50 merit to a given user per 30 days. You have already sent 49 merit to that user.

After over a month of nothing happening, the Vulpine Order of Merit finally has its fifth member: theymos

As the most merited user in the history of the merit system, it was really only a matter of time before our benevolent dictator joined the ranks of the forum's most meritorious users thereby gaining the recognition he truly deserves.

You all know the drill by now!

1311  Other / Meta / Re: Most annoying word of forum on: September 22, 2018, 04:55:36 PM
At least in our country, it has some derogatory ingredients in it,
It's the same in the West, due to the shift from feudalism to egalitarianism. In our modern egalitarian society, polite people treat each other as equals; nobody is superior to anybody else, and therefore nobody may rightly be called "sir". To call somebody "sir" is to suggest that they are a feudal lord, a class which these days is looked upon with contempt, a relic of a less civilised era. It's a clear insult, albeit a mild one. The only appropriate uses of the word "sir" are in the few remaining situations where a clear master-servant relationship exists: customers are called "sir" by shopkeepers, teachers are called "sir" by students, and military officers are called "sir" by their men. That's about it.

Of course, it's probably different in South Asia, but an important part of polite conversation is learning what seemingly innocent words and phrases may be viewed as offensive by other cultures. Every time a shitposter says "sir", they're really saying "I don't care enough about you to learn that it is improper to call you 'sir', even after you repeatedly tell me not to". These people demonstrate that they have no interest whatsoever in having a real conversation and they have no place on this forum.
1312  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 20, 2018, 02:58:57 PM
Chlorine dioxide is weak. This is its benefit for your body. Unlike H2O2 and other bleaches, CD will get to places deep within your body without reacting to your body. There, it will react with pathogens and poisons, rendering them harmless.
The LD50 of chlorine dioxide is 300 mg/kg, while that of hydrogen peroxide is 2000 mg/kg. That means chlorine dioxide is over 6 times more toxic than hydrogen peroxide. That is the meaning of the smiley skull on the Wikipedia page you linked to, and the reason why so many who consume MMS are injured or killed by it. As explained, there is no chemical mechanism by which an oxidizing agent can react to pathagens without reacting to healthy cells. It will not cure you of any disease.
1313  Other / Meta / Re: Applying to be a merit source on: September 20, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
This is all theymos's fault, with his ridiculous 50 merits per user per month limit. As I have been unable to award you with nearly as many merits as you deserve, I have instead awarded you the Vulpine Order of Merit while keeping records of your meritorious posts since then. You currently have 69 pending merits for posts dating back over a month (and an unclaimed bonus prize), which will be awarded on a set schedule to avoid running into the 50 merits per 30 days limit (again). Your quoted post has already been scheduled to receive 12 merits in 9 days, though you are likely to have made even more meritorious posts during that time, so you are unlikely to ever receive all of your pending merits.

I'll tell you what: if/when you reach 100 pending merits, I'll promote you to Knight of the Vulpine Order of Merit. Until then, I fully endorse all current and future members of the Vulpine Order of Merit as merit sources, and hope that theymos recognises their outstanding contributions to the forum. Grin
1314  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 20, 2018, 09:03:22 AM
Jim Humble's MMS is 28% (meaning 25%) sodium chloride mixed with activator like fresh lemon juice producing chlorine dioxide.
Yes salt mixed with fresh lemon, will kill you horribly. (in Foxup's world).
Sodium chloride (NaCl) is salt, which is harmless and does not produce chlorine dioxide (or anything else, for that matter) when mixed with citric acid. MMS is sodium chlorite (NaClO2) or, according to some sources, sodium hypochlorite (NaClO), which is not even close to being the same thing. The extra oxygen atom(s) in (hypo)chlorite make it a powerful oxidizing agent, and therefore it will react violently with many organic compounds. This is what makes it an effective bleach and disinfectant. It's the same as the difference between water (H2O) and hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), and peroxide is also a powerful bleach and disinfectant for the same reason.

Again, it is not clear to me how you cannot tell the difference between these substances, but it is vitally important for your health that you learn, and learn quickly. I wouldn't want you to accidentally sprinkle bleaching powder on your French fries and wash it down with a refreshing glass of peroxide. Roll Eyes

Activated sodium chlorite swims through our body harmlessly, all the while looking for damaging microorganisms that breed disease.
If activated sodium chlorite does not find any diseased tissues, it breaks down into the common element table salt.
Sodium chlorite is not attracted to healthy cells, which have a positive charge.
This is completely untrue and displays a profound ignorance of basic chemistry. Chemicals do not "look for" things and "break down" when they do not "find any". Oxidizers are non-discrimatory; they oxidize everything. Healthy cells are fundamentally not chemically different from diseased cells or microbes, and they will be killed by bleach just as effectively. That's why drinking bleach is a profoundly stupid idea.
1315  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 20, 2018, 04:45:10 AM
Jim Humble's MMS is chlorine dioxide, a gas - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide.
Appropriately enough for Talk Like a Pirate Day, that Wikipedia page has a friendly smiling skull on it:



That must mean this substance is endorsed by fun-loving pirates! Arrr! That's what that symbol means, right? Roll Eyes

Quote from: Wikipedia
On July 30, 2010, and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned against the use of the product "Miracle Mineral Supplement", or "MMS", which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, autism, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that MMS can cause serious harm to health and stated that it has received numerous reports of nausea, diarrhea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration.[37][38]
(emphasis added)

Hmm, maybe it's not a pirate thing after all?

Inhaling toxic gas or drinking aqueous solutions of it will not cure you. Instead it will kill or injure you. (In case there's any confusion about the effects of toxic gas.)
1316  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 19, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
Yes your version of mms "Miracle Mineral Solution" seems more like rat poison than anything else, Jim Humble MMS (Master Mineral Solution) is this:
I already told you I'm talking about Jim Humble's MMS. It is unclear to me how you can agree that it is poison when its chemical properties are laid bare, yet claim it is safe when merely given a different name. Calling a substance by another name does not change its toxicity.
1317  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 19, 2018, 11:39:46 AM
The issue at hand is apples and oranges. You talk about MMS "Miracle Mineral Solution" and I refer to Jim Humble's MMS, Master Mineral Solution.
I'm calling it "Miracle Mineral Solution" because that's what Jim Humble originally called it in his book, "The Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century". It goes by other names, but it's all the same substance: bleach mixed with acid. It is not sodium chloride and never has been.

Seems some managed to survive the "industrial bleaching"
I never denied that there were survivors; in fact, I mentioned this explicitly in my first post. Lots of people survive poisoning; that's what makes it so unreliable as a murder or suicide method. That doesn't change the fact that consuming poison is an extremely bad idea that is likely to kill or injure you, and if you advise other people to consume poison while telling them it is harmless, that is tantamount to trying to kill them. Promoting MMS is only going to result in more injuries and deaths. Is that what you want?
1318  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 19, 2018, 08:48:47 AM
I am not sure what mms you have. mms is sodium chloride and wine-acid or salt-acid or any other activator.
proper mms is basically a stronger dose water-purification. water purification is essential in some parts of the world.
Sodium chloride is ordinary table salt. It is not useful for water purification, except as part of an electrolytic chlorination system, where it used to produce hypochlorous acid. You can buy sodium chloride in any grocery store and most hardware stores. Adding sodium chloride to acidic foods and beverages can help offset the sour flavour, but its benefits are purely culinary, not medicinal. You cannot cure disease by eating salt (though at least it won't kill you like drinking bleach will).

At the end of the day everyone must know for themselves what to eat, drink, inject or do to there body.
Indeed, which is why it is important for you to know the difference between sodium chloride (salt, which is tasty to eat but not particularly healthy) and sodium hypochlorite (bleach, which is not very tasty and is a lethal poison).

One thing is certain no-one has or will survive chemotherapy it is 100% fatal just a matter of time.
All medical treatments merely postpone death; they do not prevent it and nobody expects them to. The omnipresence of death is not in dispute.
1319  Other / Off-topic / Re: miracle mineral solutions mms bleach on: September 19, 2018, 06:21:56 AM
Sodium chloride (NaCl), also known as salt, is an essential compound our body uses to: absorb and transport nutrients. maintain blood pressure. maintain the right balance of fluid.
MMS does not contain sodium chloride and has nothing to do with sodium chloride whatsoever.

Chlorine Dioxide is available in tablet or droplet form and is cheap and effective (e.g. Aquamira).
Chlorine dioxide is a water-soluble toxic gas; those tablets actually contain sodium chlorite, which produces chlorine dioxide when mixed with acid. Don't eat them.

Chlorine Dioxide will kill bacteria, viruses and some parasite cysts in water. Follow directions on the pack for effective use. It is ineffective against the parasite Cyclospora.
Like most mineral toxins, it's pretty non-discriminatory in what it kills. Consuming it directly will not kill bacteria inside your body and thereby cure you of all diseases; instead it will kill you.

Chlorine, (usually as Sodium or Calcium hypochlorite) is the most commonly used disinfectant in municipal water supplies worldwide and is non-toxic.
Indeed, it's so commonly used that I have bottles of the stuff just lying around my house. Let me grab one real quick...
Quote from: Random bottle of sodium hypochlorite I had lying around
DO NOT SWALLOW
Wear gloves and eye protection.

SAFETY DIRECTIONS: KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Corrosive. May produce severe burns. Attacks skin and eyes. WARNING: Vapour may be harmful. May give off dangerous gas if mixed with other products. Do not mix with detergents or other chemicals or cleaning products. Avoid breathing vapour. Ensure adequate ventilation when using. Avoid contact with skin and eyes, wear protective gloves and eye protection when using. Do not use with hot water. Wash hands after use. NOT TO BE TAKEN.

FIRST AID: For advice contact the Poisons Information Centre (phone Australia 13 11 26; New Zealand 0800 764 766) or a doctor at once. If swallowed, do NOT induce vomiting. If in eyes, hold eyelids apart and flush eye continuously with running water. Remove any contact lenses. Continue flushing until advised to stop by the Poisons Information Centre or a doctor, or for at least 15 minutes. If skin or hair contact occurs, remove contaminated clothing and flush skin and hair with running water.


TL;DR: Bleach does not make a refreshing beverage. Who knew?

mms is sodium chloride and an activator of your choice milk, salt, wine ... acid
No, MMS is hypochlorite bleach, not sodium chloride. Sodium chloride is ordinary table salt, which is mostly harmless if consumed either by itself or mixed with food or beverages. Sodium hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite (the two have similar effects) are lethal if consumed, and react with organic compounds to form chloramine and chloroform (which are pretty toxic) and with acids to produce chlorine gas (which is very toxic). Don't do that.

To reiterate: several people have been killed or seriously injured by consuming MMS. Drinking or inhaling poison tends to do that. If you advocate consuming MMS, then your craziness has officially crossed the line from "harmless nonsense" to "actively trying to kill people" and you ought to be locked up.
1320  Other / Off-topic / Re: Transgenderism is a mental illness. on: September 18, 2018, 05:14:40 PM
Am I the only one who finds it interesting that so many of these anti-gay or anti-trans politicians and preachers keep getting caught having sex with underage boys?
Yes. I don't know why anyone's surprised by it; Christianity is fundamentally based on the principle of penal substitution, the theory that you can project your sins onto an innocent being (such as Jesus or the scapegoat of Azazel) who will be punished in your place, as though justice is served so long as someone is punished, it doesn't matter who. It is perfectly consistent with this doctrine for Christian abusers to seek absolution by accusing others of sexual depravity. If you can make someone else suffer for your sin, that makes it okay.
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