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1301  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 11, 2012, 11:27:12 AM
You guys are still calculating math on current time prices. You're not adding to the table if there are 10x more coins for sale the price will drop, today you can get 11k for 1k bitcoins, after this launches, you might get 2k for 1k bitcoins.
1302  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which one is better: Butterflylabs or BTCFGPA? Can we trust them? on: October 10, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
I doubt BFL is scam, according to records, they did 41mil in transactions? Unless they're in a country who doesn't give a crap, they will get away. I'm sure some people who dumped 30k on a rig didn't do it without asking some questions. If they're from the UK or states, and they run, 41 million in stolen goods will be tracked I'm sure.
And anyone whos smart enough to make that much cash knows it.
1303  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: virtex 7 gigahash per second? on: October 10, 2012, 05:33:21 PM
5k? how long would it take to turn that investment into 1k? or even 5k?
1304  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 08, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
Have one for $1000, and $650.
1305  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: paypal on: October 08, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
anonymous & paypal doesnt exist.

As for the exchange to bitcoin from paypal, you wont likely be able to find somebody willing to risk it (on a new user especially) as anybody could just push for a reversal after receiving their coins leaving the seller high and dry.

Who told you anonymous and paypal don't exist? That's a lie. They're called stealth paypal accounts, and they do exist.
1306  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: looking to spent 150usd on btc on: October 08, 2012, 08:49:51 AM
Hey man, I got what you're looking for. They're not reversible..

If you need a different amount let me know.. I.E. $20,$50 etc.
1307  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 08, 2012, 08:31:10 AM
Hi there, I want to share some experiences from an outside view.

Recently a hooka lounge in my city opened, no major colleges, etc.. Just not a lot to do.

I went, it wasn't that big of a place, but it was decent space.

When I went the lounge was open for 2-3 weeks previous.

To get in was $5, hookas were $10, and refills were $5.
They had novelty hookas which were $15 or $20 I cant remember, hookas that popped more than others, dragons for designs etc.
They also did charges for things like milk instead of water for $2, ice in water/milk for $1-2 etc


They had a 3 person per hookah rule, with each seat being a couch, with a rectangle table.


It seemed almost everyone had a hookah, they were doing pretty good with hookah rentals. I myself spent about ~$50 for the night.
Pool tables, darts, etc were being played.

It seemed as if the lounge attracted younger audiences, 18-24


Good luck, hopefully any information I posted will be of use.
1308  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 08, 2012, 07:09:31 AM

Weird, I'm doing $30,000 monthly in greendot transactions, and I'm being told by a guy who did a few thousand BTC, how a GDMP works.



Wow, 30K a month in green dot money pak now that is a normal way of doing business in a legal fashion.

After disclosing that your doing that much sales thru green dot, no one is going to touch a green dot from you.

Very few legal business accepts money paks as payment, because they can use other sources of payment.

Are you a merchant on Silk Road, A cyberlocker, VOIP provider, Tube Website?

Because there is a pretty small list of businesses that are forced to use money paks.

If your doing 30K in sales a month in GDMP, you will be the #1 GDMP seller on this forum in 30-90 days

I'll be surprised if someone trades with you before your let out of newbie prison


No to all your assumptions of what I deal with. I'm not forced to use moneypaks, I choose to, sort of..

I had horrible luck with payment processors, Paypal frozen funds, google checkout refunding customers $4000 because I used their merchant account on 2 domains, and a real credit card processor freeze funds and lock account for hitting the monthly quota cap to fast.

If I was a SR merchant, etc, I would already have BTC, and not GDMP's.

Why wouldn't anyone touch a GDMP from me?


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That's because they are not designed for taking payment for goods or services and its against there TOS to do so.

We have had forum members that have deposited too many GDMP and have cards canceled because of it.


Man, do you have anything better to do than 'attempt' to break someones balls? Seriously, I know the risks, and I've had multiple cards shut down, and reinstated. They flag if you upload them to fast, I.E. 2 within 20 minutes. They flag as if you stole them, not as if you're using them to accept money, please show me where on their site, does it say GDMP's can not be used to buy and or sell? You're making shit up, and making my thread a flame contest over something you have no clue what you're talking about.


I'm offering to go first, I posted previous transactions proving I do multiple large exchanges with them, the picture uploaded dating back 6 months. Please get off my thread.

edit:

And FYI
https://www.moneypak.com/WhoAccepts.aspx

5 sections with dozens of places to SPEND your GDMP other than your paypal. I thought it was against their TOS..
1309  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 08, 2012, 05:46:59 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0

This link above is the sticky thread from the currency trading thread.

Yes green dot money packs are reversible, all you need is the receipt or a copy of it.

Green dots that are deposited into PayPal can be reversed.

Green dots that are deposited into debt card can be reversed.

Plus you are using 3rd party green dots that you didn't purchase or control.

If you got these from a 3rd party they could also be stolen.

You should only trade green dots that are purchased with cash, and they can provide a scan of the receipt
With the buyers username written on it.






Wrong, GDMP's cant be reversed.. Stop slandering and saying they can, you have no idea what you're talking about. GDMP's can only be purchased with cash. These GDMP #'s are from customers who've I've been dealing with since March. There is no potential for anyone to do a "chargeback" even if it were possible, which it isn't. They're trusted customers, who already received their orders.. And the money is still on the GDMPs.. If they were to do a chargeback.. if it were possible all they would have to do is remove the funds, some of which have been sitting there for 3 weeks.


How about you stop trying to get your post count up and do some research on this nifty tool created in the mid 90s, www.google.com all you have to do is type things like "can you reverse a greendot moneypak" and it will show results all 100% of which say "no".
1310  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Misuse of my wallet address on: October 08, 2012, 01:41:45 AM
You can give your Bitcoin address to anyone - that's what it's for. The worst someone can do is send you illicit money linked to terrorist hacking child porn drug cartels, and that's still not a big problem, as Bitcoin payments can be hard to trace.

The wallet file on your computer however you must protect, both by backing it up so it doesn't get lost if your computer crashes, and also by protecting it from other people/hackers/trojan horses. The wallet on your computer has the secrets that allow spending any bitcoins that are sent to your addresses.


I read something quite different, that BTC are easily traceable.
1311  Other / Beginners & Help / Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 07, 2012, 03:43:32 PM
Hi everyone, I'm looking to trade Greendot Moneypaks for BTC, at a 1:1 face value. The moneypaks cost $4.95, but this fee wont be included.

I do online transactions, and accept GDMP's as a payment form, so I have excess of what I can withdrawal.

1*$20
1*$35
1*$50
1*$62
1*$70
2*$140

I receive GDMP's from $20-$1000 daily, all which will be available.

I will not trade first, unless a reputable trader is interested.


For those that do not know what Greendot Moneypaks are, they're pre-paid debit card, reload cards. They can also be used to load PayPal funds, and Serve.com (American Express version of PP) which can be withdrawn to your bank account, or spent via paypal. Serve and paypal, offer debit cards for instant spending, or ATM withdrawals. GDMP's are not reversible.
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