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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 prediction for Bitcoin? Time to buy now? on: December 04, 2018, 03:08:45 PM
That's the time we can officially say that after 2/3 of the Q4 we have seen a great crypto market crash, and this year is totally different when compared to last 3.
Now, I think the question is, how long will it take to rebound to the levels it was during the boom? 2013 crash took basically 4 years to get back to the point it was (if we are talking about Bitcoin price). Will this take as long? Anyway, seems like a real bear market is ahead of us.

Seems so..

Bitcoin broke the under 4000 usd mark again today
No light in the end of the tunnel  Huh


Look at the upside. You now have the opportunity to buy the dip in a phased manner.
Once the tide turns you will be making money pretty rapidly.

P.S.
The light at the end of the tunnel is a train  Cheesy
1362  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you do when price falls? on: December 04, 2018, 03:02:15 PM
Holding on a cold wallet is the best strategy. Just ride the rocky road and wait for your profits to grow.
Maximizing profits by selling and buying adds risks, many trading sites have gone bust. So I would only do that with a small selection of coins.
1363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price of Bitcoin hit 12 to 13k end of this year? on: December 04, 2018, 02:58:47 PM
The days of sideways are ahead. Cautious growth; regrouping....
1364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2018, 02:57:47 PM
Looks like we're going to hit $4,100

We need more drama!
But I took out a mortgage to short Bitcorn with 100x leverage. Roll Eyes

Lol let's see how this turns out *grabs bag of crisps*
1365  Economy / Speculation / Re: December 2018: Is this a good time to enter bitcoin if you have cash? on: December 04, 2018, 02:56:32 PM
While you have cash to burn.. sure buy away.  Just remember not to sell if the price goes down, just buy more.   Don't go all in, spreading out your buys over a longer period of time, is the best advice.  Buy in small increments and average your price in.   It's impossible to time the bottom.

You never lose if you don't sell below your buy in price.  

If Bitcoin stops trading and dies then you will have an unrecoverable loss...

1366  Economy / Speculation / Re: December 2018: Is this a good time to enter bitcoin if you have cash? on: December 04, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
There's never a need to enter at one particular time. Better to pace your buys over a few weeks or months. My own willy is telling me Jan/Feb is when we might hit the gutter.

Obviously if you're a believer now is still an OK time since it's 80% down.

Probably a false statement but you can only go down $4k and the upward potential is $16k.
Buying on the way down might be a good approach instead of getting caught out whilst waiting.
1367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Walll Street dumping to buy cheap on: December 04, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
--snip--

How can you be sure? It seems kind of asymmetric to a chicken and egg dilemma in my mind. People follow TA and therefore act in a certain way that makes TA accurate. Or people act in a certain way and TA is able to accurate predict that. I truthfully do not know which one is truth.

I guess either way does not matter, what matters is that it tends to work.

It's what they call a self fulfilling prophecy.

If you have enough followers that do what you suggest, then you have a high probability it will happen.
You invest ahead of your advice and you can float your winnings and get more people aboard.
1368  Economy / Speculation / Re: December 2018: Is this a good time to enter bitcoin if you have cash? on: December 04, 2018, 10:56:33 AM
OP you are asking the right question.

A lot of doom prophets is a good sign.
Increasing infrastructure is a good sign.
Tech is still solid.
More crypto related jobs is a good sign

The question is "Do you believe in Bitcoin?"
1369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Walll Street dumping to buy cheap on: December 04, 2018, 10:22:57 AM
what surprises me the most is the fact that nothing about any of these nonsenses (bitcoin is dead, etc) are new! we have had the same strategy used multiple times in the past on the same large scale as today to push the price lower and lower so that they can buy at cheaper prices. but people still pay it a lot of attention for some reason!

my theory is that everyone at some point started loving FUD and use it to their own advantage for shorting bitcoin or buying it in the dip which is why we keep on seeing the same bullshit have the same effect over and over again!

shhhhhh *cough* rule #1 *cough*
1370  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC To 1$ on: December 04, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
OP if you are so certain maybe you should go short with a 100:1 leverage Tongue
1371  Economy / Speculation / Re: second half of november was definately a bloodbath for bitcoin 2k usd loss on: December 04, 2018, 10:18:22 AM
OP we've survived worse...  Cool
1372  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC To 1$ on: December 04, 2018, 09:09:52 AM
OP what happened to your bottom prediction?

We are Close To The Bottom:


1373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to drop to 43$ and then die on: December 03, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
These kinds of "Bitcoin will die" articles are a sign to buy Wink
1374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't sell your bitcoin expert warn. on: December 03, 2018, 02:24:42 PM
hi guys today I see this news which some expert says that hold your btc and don't sell.
Here is link check it--- <sniff>
Crypto experts are also human that will commit mistakes or errors, I will not decide base on what they said and predicted because I will be responsible on my decisions. I believe that crypto is too volatile to make a prediction and if those predictions are true then most of us are now millionaires.

Also there is nothing like a free lunch.
"experts" shout what they want to happen for them to make a profit.
If an expert has a lot of followers then you get a "self fulfilling proficy". He shouts it will go up, people buy and the price goes up because people are buying.

Anyway make up your own mind and don't follow "experts" like sheep.
1375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 02:14:16 PM
I have merit and no hat Kiss

Have you asked nicely and provided a decent sized picture of your liking?
I haven't ever noticed Homer leaving a fellow WO-er hatless for long.

Been away for quite a while so no I haven't asked...

Didn't know where the hats came from. Now I do Smiley
1376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
Beautiful hats I hope to get one, but I'm not sure how it happens, my MaineCoon cat would look great in a hat. Cool

You're just a tad green. Keep it up and you'll get your hat in no time. We have a first class mad hatter here.

Thank you !!!

(I am sorry for the off topic)

Hats have become a small part of the topic and in a near future Will be a hatcarrier as well perhaps Wink

Its just a small WO hodl train on that pic.... who’s gonna stop that ??
To much force in there

When you gained enough merit.... comrade XhomerX might hook you up with one of the finest HATS

I have merit and no hat Kiss
1377  Economy / Economics / Re: The US dollar is gaining strength on: December 03, 2018, 11:15:43 AM
I am not agree USD is going to down day by day, seriously getting scared for this what will do now??


Stop voting on idiot presidents  Grin
1378  Economy / Economics / Re: Fire in the market: Bitcoin is below $4000 on: December 03, 2018, 11:14:18 AM
Trading sites can go bust. Always keep some in a cold wallet.
1379  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitpay: a new industry players will raise the price of bitcoin up to $20 000 on: December 03, 2018, 11:12:11 AM
It's not like that.
especially if China falls.
then no industry players will help


China ban ... crying wolf since 2009
1380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 11:09:01 AM
If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.

People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.

Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.

Nothing in this world allows you the increase your financial stability, your profits and your social status like borrowing a hella amount of money.

Though of course you must be smart about what you do with the investments.

I just borrowed 250k€, that's about 7 years of salary for me. The interests are basically 0 if you take inflation into consideration so that's basically just me borrowing to my future self to increase my current income ^^

If I could borrow 4M€ I would Cheesy

Well, as I said it depends on what you do what that borrowed money. If you use it for getting a better bigger house for living in it, instead as an investment to get a rent. If you use it to buy a better car, to buy better clothes, or to basically have more "free" money to spend on whatever you think makes you feel better as many people did, then that's where the problem comes.

People borrowed money and started to spend it like they had already earned it.... That's what basically happened.

If you are able to get someone to lend you 4M at almost no interest, and are also able to invest it wisely and safely without upping your lifestyle until you can really do it with YOUR OWN money, then it is ok. Anyways, I would consider that to be way overleveraged... but to each their own.

But that's not what most of the people that later couldn't afford to make the repayments did.


+1. Only live large on money YOU own.

Only live large on borrowed money when you know you will be dead when they come for the cash....
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