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141  Other / Archival / Re: NeuroticFish, on default trust, using trust feedback to side with a known abuser on: November 26, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
I'm begging for it

Because you are. Like every dedicated troll you crave attention. Your response to every bad thing you're accused of is to do more of it. I get that you're likely a sad jobless clown with nothing else to do, but creating all these threads and attacking users who got sick of your trollfuckery is just going to make more people see your trollfuckery.
142  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 26, 2023, 02:54:55 AM
This can be interpreted in different ways, therefore I am of the opinion that it is not enough for red. Signature is payment for some kind of service, or promotion, and if you remove the ad from your sig space, you will not be paid.
In Ratimov's case, he wanted to pay for the improvement of his reputation, but he didn't get it, maybe that's why he doesn't want to pay.

But the offer was not contingent on him getting a certain amount of reputation or something like that. The way the offer was made it looked like him calling himself a "sponsor" was all he wanted out of it. He gets that for about 11 months out of 12, and then withdraws the offer. Does not seem right no matter how I try to look at it.

And even IRL courts often don't consider "fairness" in contract disputes. In other words, if Sym engaged in a bad deal, that's kinda his own fault.

Anyway, I'm not advocating for red trust, but I also probably wouldn't oppose a flag if any of the participants of the contest can provide solid reasoning based on the facts of this "sponsor" deal alone (without detours to plagiarism and all the other drama).
143  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The KRAKEN rises, meaning the 2020 election fraud is being corrected. on: November 26, 2023, 02:33:29 AM
The thing is that I can perfectly accept the posibility of serious irregularities during an election, it is something which is within the realm of the possible. So in my opinion, assuming Trump and his lawyers actually believed there was something fishy going on, they did good on going to judges and file lawsuits. Those are the regular channels which are supposed to be taken in the United States.
But Trump and his team could not bring any evidence on the table which could convince those judges (many of them appointed by Trump himself, by the way) so the lawsuits got dismissed and forgotten.

Who was at fault there?

If you file a lawsuit and have no evidence, you're at fault. Actually it was worse than that. Not only did they have no evidence but also got repeatedly scalded by multiple judges for being illiterate buffoons (well, maybe not quite in those words) for trivial things like not filing the appropriate paperwork and not-so-trivial things like putting people in danger with their frivolous lawsuits.

The legal system is not supposed to be used like that. It did work as designed (the lawsuits got dismissed) but still there was a lot of damage done by the reckless conspiratardery that these muppets tried to push.
144  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is 1miau fit for DT? Nope - Tilda for trust abuse on: November 24, 2023, 09:26:08 PM
Now that I'm just thinking about it... A long time ago I seem to recall that I reviewed suchmoon's trust feedbacks which were full of post-it note style vitriol of anyone their gang didn't approve of and hence they (suchmoon) deserves a Tilda along with the three mentioned in this thread. (Plus the one running a protection racket)

I don't understand most of this rant but one thing that I vehemently agree with is that if you don't trust my judgement (in this thread or anywhere else) you should, no, you must most definitely do the tilde on me and it will solve all your problems forever.



That is applicable to this drama as well. All of those fanning the flames, just tilde 1miau, the OP, or both, how hard can it be. It's not like any argument you make here can possibly change anyone's opinion - look in the mirror and honestly tell yourself that you're open to changing your opinion. Thought so.



How does the forum works & how should the forum work according to whom? Satoshi? Have you speak with him in person how the forum should work 2023? Or is it just a fantasy you and your friends have created?
And when someone opposes you and your friends way of using the forum, why cant you just accept it and do move on with your life's? I don't try to create anything, it's a serious question.
How should this forum works and who have the right to make those rules today? Why cant just people use in in the way it fits their day and we all be happy with that without using drama and feedback and hate against each other?
Think about this for a bit.... you own this forum as little as a newbie register next week. Everyone is only guests here, even you. All this is a fantasy, one day this website will shut down, so enjoy your time here instead of arguing how people should use the forum. Be positive instead of negative, I promise you, you will have so much more fun.  Smiley

LOL what a moronic rant... it's not "my way of using the forum". There are objective facts how e.g. trust system or merit works, and those things didn't even exist when satoshi was still around. Nowadays dimwits like you and TL like to make shit up as if said shit has the same weight as facts. It doesn't. Fucking participation trophy generation.
145  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 24, 2023, 09:00:06 PM
Did participants spend more of their time on that contest? Or just their spare time?
Did he send the donated amount to the host?
Technically if the host was holding the funds but returned them to him, the host violated the terms of contract.

None of it matters. If you promise to pay me for doing nothing and then you don't, you would still be in breach of contract even if it's my "spare time". Sending or not sending the money in advance also has nothing to do with it.

Even if you wanted to blame the donor, he could file for bankruptcy and claim there were people in line to get paid with actual written contracts and that legally they were the priority, then your fantasy forum rules would make no sense to warrant a flag.😉 

Donor LOL

Sym-whatshisname said "sponsor". That's very different from "donor". Sponsorship is very likely to be a contract because it implies that the sponsor is receiving something in return. Words matter. No one forced him to call it that, his choice, his contract, his failure to execute.

I can see why participants wouldn't want to raise the flag here but that doesn't mean that you need to start making things up to justify that, like bankruptcy Roll Eyes ... there is no bankruptcy, there is just a disgruntled user trying to turn everything he touched into shit.
146  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 24, 2023, 03:31:42 PM
There is definitely a difference. One is a donation and the second is a bet. As far as I can see, Ratimov is not a participant in this contest, so he certainly cannot receive any prize from it. There was no agreement between Ratimov and the participants here, except for a few thanks for his generosity.

If you say "I'm sponsoring this and here's how much I'll pay" is about as serious of a contract as it gets here on the forum. If I said something like this and then retracted it at the last minute, I'd expect to be flagged up the wazoo. Not sure where you see the difference between that and e.g. a signature campaign or some other promise to pay.
147  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is 1miau fit for DT? on: November 22, 2023, 10:45:26 PM
Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

Bullshit. He earned his tildes with poor judgement, there is no reason to remove them, particularly since his tantrum is ongoing.

If you took all this effort that you're spending on making shit up and put it towards understanding how this forum actually works, you'd have all those things that you crave so much, all the trust doohickeys and merit thingamabobs that you can dream of.
148  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? on: November 22, 2023, 10:29:18 PM
I would argue that anyone looking to "start over" with a name change should do exactly that. Start from the beginning, no rank, no merit, no post history. Don't try to hide who you were.

Yeah but what about those sweet sweet sig campaign satoshis... it would take MONTHS to get back to that level LOL

Am I missing something as to why 1 would need a name change? From what I read on his DT case he got caught plagiarizing, he deleted lots of old threads, not sure if caught in lies but the point is now with the name change it feels like he is trying to hide the past.

There might be legitimate privacy reasons for a username change and in this case the username was a Russian last name, may or may not have been his real name, but I guess plausible enough to make an appeal to theymos to change it.

The timing of it though... no issues with bearing that username for years, now a "privacy" issue Roll Eyes
149  Other / Archival / Re: 1miau, meow why so serious? on: November 22, 2023, 10:14:08 PM
Although, obviously, the reading I make, could be incorrect. In which case I would be grateful if someone could enlighten me about it.

There is no deep meaning here. I remember digaran obviously, he's been one of the most deranged trolls, just curious why he's back after years of absence and trolling again but now managed to get paid for it. "Purchased account" could have been a plausible explanation but that's not the case apparently.
150  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is 1miau fit for DT? on: November 20, 2023, 06:13:22 PM
I disagree with everyone who thinks this should end. News outlets would NEVER lie to any of us. Shame on you for thinking that. This conflict MUST go on until someone dies. Sorry, but that's the rules LMAO.

I'd suggest DT1 cage fight. Losers get blacklisted. I think that would be more fair than the lottery.
151  Other / Archival / Re: 1miau, meow why so serious? on: November 20, 2023, 02:07:44 PM
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Would you like to sign a message with 18Gykh4jE6fuyARzbC3XEzrALuKWFNHra4 ?
152  Economy / Goods / Re: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ on: November 16, 2023, 10:21:45 PM
LOL there are no "preorders", the $100 deposit means jack shit, especially since most of those "buyers" likely put it down on a $40k truck, which will never happen. Tesla will make top trim Lambo-priced version first and will try to push it to everyone regardless of their position in the queue or even without a deposit. The $50k penalty nonsense is just a clunky PR play trying to make it look like there is going to be a reseller stampede, and to get some more free publicity.
153  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT! on: November 15, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
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Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs?
Ibminer can probably tell you this. The default of any web server is keep access logs (for a while).

I can tell you that we have webserver logs and we may see the IPs and... then what? There is no plausible way for us to associate these IPs with anything personally identifiable. We don't have logins. We don't see your Bitcointalk login. I mean with some effort in theory we could try to guess that someone repeatedly looking at LoyceV profile on BPIP might be yourself, or perhaps just a big fan of yours Smiley. And then even knowing (or assuming) that some IP belongs to some user...

My ISP is not going to give my details to a random person but if he goes though a proper channel they will pull it

It's not as easy for some random website to pull your personal details from an ISP as you're trying to imply, but you should be using VPN or Tor anyway. Don't blame websites or their owners if you're voluntarily giving your vitals away.
154  Other / Meta / Re: What happened to BPIP? on: November 15, 2023, 12:02:18 AM
I should clarify.  BPIP works fine for me most of the time.  If i try to access it during a slow period, where no one has accessed in a while, it gives me the error the first time.

They should be able to look in the log and see what exact collection of variables leads to the error.

The site is just lazy, takes after its owners... slow to get up in the morning. Seriously though, the only 500 errors I see in the logs are from bots/crawlers. So not sure what to make of that.

Welcome back Smiley
155  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 11, 2023, 02:20:43 AM
What I really don't understand is why would Ratimov go ahead and try to delete an quality post that he made. I haven't seen anyone doubting that his debit card list thread was useful and also original. It really doesn't help his case to go ahead and say that he was pissed when someone went ahead and "forked" his now erased thread to bring out the information and keep updating.

The accusation of merit farming holds more ground if he stands against people releasing information freely just because he had formatted a thread about a certain topic earlier than others...

I wouldn't look for too much reason here. Most likely it's just spitefulness and over-inflated ego. In NotATether's thread he said something along the lines "you all did [something or other] against me", not sure who "all" is - the whole forum? So he holds a big grudge against everyone. You all wronged me so I'll remove all my threads, that'll teach you. Didn't think it through however.

I don't think it's about merit farming... I mean if he created a thread and got merit for it, he earned it, nothing wrong there.
156  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: November 10, 2023, 08:58:06 PM
Got a credible link?

Yes
157  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: Репутация в Русском локальном разделе on: November 10, 2023, 07:55:17 PM
Т.е. то, что GazetaBitcoin отомстил красным отзывом обидчику в ссоре, «делает ситуацию еще хуже и менее приемлемой», правильно? Или опять двойные стандарты, и «quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi»?

Да, если отзыв был ответной мерой за спор. Нет, если принять как там написано (за плагиат), хотя все же наверное неуместен. Вы думаете, что первый вариант, и я понимаю почему, даже если не согласен, давайте оставим это так.

В моем собственном примере я имел в виду, что даже если другая сторона дала мне красный отзыв из-за ссоры, я все равно не думаю, что для меня было бы приемлемо сделать то же самое. Неважно, ошибается другая сторона или нет.

И ты сюда пришел чтобы склонять людей на сторону Газеты. Ты уже манипулируешь системой DT. Следовательно ты должен быть исключен из DT за такие манипуляции. Я считаю что тебе не место в DT

Если вы так легко склоняетесь, я прошу прощения. Я постараюсь использовать более сложные слова, чтобы вам было труднее понять, к чему вы должны склоняться.
158  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: November 10, 2023, 06:58:59 PM
exiled opposition leader

LOL no he's not. He's a Kremlin plant who got arrested trying to flee and then was traded to Russia in exchange for prisoners of war. I think he was supposed to organize pro-Russian support in Ukraine but just took Putin's money and didn't do much... probably didn't think that Putin would be dumb enough to invade. Putin is his daughter's godfather. Those family dinners are a bit awkward now I suppose.
159  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: Репутация в Русском локальном разделе on: November 10, 2023, 06:45:56 PM
Ключевая разница в том, что Вы «мало что знаете об этом пользователе». Если бы непосредственно в момент оставления отзыва Вы с этим пользователем интенсивно ругались, в ходе ругани «набили друг другу морду» (пользуясь Вашей терминологией по оставлению отзывов в Трасте), а потом волком бы смотрели друг на друга, тогда ситуация была бы схожей.

Если бы мы поссорились, было бы более приемлемо отомстить красным отзывом? Для меня это делает ситуацию еще хуже и менее приемлемой.

Кстати я не пытаюсь вас ни в чем убедить. может быть вы предвзяты, потому что доверяли Ратимову, а я может предвзят, потому что я его давно исключил. Не имеет значения. Думайте, что хотите. Не пишите мне красный отзыв за то, что я с вами не согласен LOL
160  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 10, 2023, 05:24:52 PM
I also made a post inside NotATether's thread (and I really hope that he'll use my suggestion)

Is that really necessary? That thread is about cards, not about Ratimov. This one here though... yeah here we can "touch upon" the hypocrisy and other happenings of the former DT1 member.
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