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1081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 28, 2022, 12:26:24 PM
Nato military equipment what did not reach destination


Here is the actual quote from the shitblog you got this from:

Quote
Overnight, a Ukraine military cargo plane was shot down near Odessa.   All of its western-supplied military weaponry was destroyed.   Here's the crash site:
(dated May 27)

Which to no one's surprise is bullshit. The photo is of a plane that crashed (empty) near Zaporizhzhia a month ago:

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1082  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 28, 2022, 12:11:18 PM
If it's about plagiarism, using the "report to moderator" button is a waste of time because no moderator wants to waste time digging up evidence of plagiarism if the case isn't reported on a thread with evidence.

Thus the petition to remove "Report to moderator", although what you said is abject nonsense. Moderators don't need to dig anything up. I report a post and in the report there is a link to the original text. That's all the evidence they need. I wouldn't be able to provide any more evidence in a thread and it would be ridiculous if moderators check a thread (or multiple threads) for mod reports but not their actual mod report queue. But again, if that's what's happening then remove "Report to moderator".

Edit: grammar.
1083  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 27, 2022, 09:19:31 PM
Like you touched on, it's the longest thread on this forum and so there's a little bit of a reason why moderators might not want to constantly be attending to it.

Nice strawman, but no one is expecting moderators to be constantly attending it. A report is a report, it should be handled. It doesn't require any more moderator's time regardless of where it came from.

One-liners, over quotes, etc. are OK in my opinion, but not plagiarism.
I get that the WO thread is akin to a gated community on this site, but I don't see any reason (except for moderator manpower) why any of those things should be tolerated there and nowhere else on bitcointalk.  Is this really a forum where there's a single thread full of elite-class members exempt from the rules?  Gimme an effin' break, eh?

Simple "spammy" posts are accepted in that thread, because it's that kind of thread. It's more of a chatroom. I don't see a problem with that.

And even if plagiarism was allowed there, that's still just one thread that can be easily avoided by those who don't appreciate this kind of "freedom". Again, no big deal for me, although I would probably visit the thread less, because sifting through copy-pasted shit isn't much fun.

The problem (for me anyway) is that "officially" it should be moderated for those more serious violations like plagiarism but in practice it isn't. So either make it an official free-for-all and stop wasting time for people who try to report posts, or start actually handling those reports.
1084  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 27, 2022, 08:18:11 PM
I think infofront was voted and appointed as the moderator of that thread a few years ago. I see he's still very active on the forum; perhaps he should tell us why the thread is still facing the same disaster that caused theymos to lock it sometime ago. I also believe, is why moderators have stopped paying attention to reports from that thread.

This has nothing to do with infofront. Forum moderators - not infofront - should handle plagiarism and other serious violations, or at least that's what it says when you click "Report to moderator" in WO.
1085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 27, 2022, 07:08:22 PM
Even if your Stalin's claim were true

Not really "claims". Historic facts. There is a lot more - mass deportations etc. You're not gonna start denying all that, are you?

how on green earth do you feel that this in any way justifies worshiping open nazi collaborators who murdered innocent people in the name of ethnic cleansing in 2022?

I never said such a thing but don't let that stop you from making more shit up.
1086  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 27, 2022, 07:02:23 PM
Are you serious? The posts have been reported to mods. That's all the attention a simple case of plagiarism needs.
Perhaps they missed your report? it's possible and that's why report on that's thread is one of to gain moderators attention. I don't know either report to moderator or report to that thread are better, but there's nothing wrong to do both.

If moderators "miss" that many reports then perhaps they shouldn't be moderators.
1087  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 27, 2022, 04:01:31 AM
I mean sure Hitler is responsible for all the killings, but he did it in the name of his nation and aryan race, so how about making him a hero too (just need to stress that it's not for the genocide part but for caring about his nation).

You have an unhealthy obsession with Hitler.

Here is what Ukrainians were up against besides Hitler:

The Holodomor [...] as a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

[...]

While scholars universally agree that the cause of the famine was man-made, whether or not the Holodomor constitutes a genocide remains in dispute. Some historians conclude that the famine was planned and exacerbated by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement.

The Vinnytsia massacre was the mass execution of between 9,000 and 11,000 people in the Ukrainian town of Vinnytsia by the Soviet secret police NKVD during the Great Purge or Yezhovshchina in 1937–1938

The Bykivnia graves [...] was one of the unmarked mass grave sites where the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, disposed of thousands of executed "enemies of the Soviet state".

The number of dead bodies buried there is estimated between "dozens of thousand," to 30,000, to 100,000 though some estimates place the number as high as 200,000.

From the early 1920s until late 1940s throughout the Stalinist purges, the Soviet government hauled the bodies of tortured and killed political prisoners to the pine forests outside the village of Bykivnia and buried them in a grave that spanned 15,000 square metres (160,000 sq ft). So far, 210 separate mass graves have been identified by Polish and Ukrainian archaeologists working at the site.

The NKVD prisoner massacres were a series of mass executions of political prisoners carried out by the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs of the Soviet Union, across Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Bessarabia. After the start of the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the NKVD troops were supposed to evacuate political prisoners into the interior of the Soviet Union, but the hasty retreat of the Red Army, the lack of transportation and other supplies and the general disregard for legal procedures often meant that the prisoners were executed.

Estimates of the death toll vary between locations; nearly 9,000 in the Ukrainian SSR, 20,000–30,000 in eastern Poland (now part of Western Ukraine), with the total number reaching approximately 100,000 victims of extrajudicial executions in the span of a few weeks.

Sounds eerily familiar these days.

Fun fact: Russia's glorious forever-president is a former officer of the KGB (the agency was known as NKVD at the time when the above atrocities were committed). But that's probably just a coincidence, nothing to do with him being a genocidal psychopath like the decades-worth of other NKVD/KGB agents.

might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

Gotta love Putin's copypasta boys accusing others of "propaganda".
1088  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2022, 08:15:57 PM
I was certain at the time I invested at the right time and now I am looking at a big drop and feeling the effects of that.

How to put this delicately... if a 20% drop is "big" then perhaps the certainty wasn't very certain? I mean many here hold coins they didn't sell at $69k, which is not much different from having bought at that price, and that's like a 60% drop AKA just another Wednesday.

Presumably your investment horizon is longer than a couple of months so you should just forget about the price and stop checking it every day if that affects your mood.
1089  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 26, 2022, 07:59:24 PM
then it makes no sense to have a misleading "Report to moderator" link there as there is nothing to report.
What if you personally stop reporting posts there, from your observation it is futile to do so, no use to keep doing it.
And yes, I do realize that removing the link might be too much of a hassle for the extremely busy staff, so maybe just put a piece of tape over it or something.
Theymos would not remove the "report to moderator" link, i guess you know that too because you sound sarcastic here. Just stop reporting anything there to save you the headache.

I have already stopped of course, I'm not an idiot, at least not to that extent. But I'm a very caring person and the concern for the wellbeing of other reporters is what keeps me up at night. Thus this thread.

It's you.......................!!! I have been wondering who's reporting my WO posts??

I don't remember reporting you. I kinda doubt that you have posted blatant copy-pasta without reference Smiley

Obviously no one bothered to even check it, because it was blatant copy-pasta with a link to the original.

That's not pilgrims... or you mean with a no link to the original?

I mean my reports all have links to the original text, i.e. all the proof the mods need if they had bothered to actually spend 30 seconds checking the report. The posts themselves had no links to the sources, or any other indication that the text was copied.

Edit: grammar.
1090  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 26, 2022, 04:21:42 PM
Anyway have you make a report on this thread? Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed to gain moderator attention about from your report.

Are you serious? The posts have been reported to mods. That's all the attention a simple case of plagiarism needs.

And again, this thread is not about reporting plagiarism. I know how to do it. I've done it literally thousands of times. But I'm a big fan of informed decisions, so if plagiarism (as well as begging, death threats, etc) is allowed in WO - which it apparently is - then it makes no sense to have a misleading "Report to moderator" link there as there is nothing to report.
1091  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 26, 2022, 02:01:28 PM
Thank you suchmoon for posting this but you have no proof that the two posts are worth to be deleted. Just saying that. But I have known you to be actively reporting shit posts and I believe you about this but if the posts are not known, it may not yield anything good result. I wish moderators to concentrate on Wall Observer thread and look into the two posts.

The proof has been submitted to moderators. They can open the queue right now and check it and I'm sure admins can check older reports as well. If it was a bad report it should be a bad report, otherwise the users should be banned, not just the posts deleted.

Obviously no one bothered to even check it, because it was blatant copy-pasta, reported properly including a link to the original. One of the users had been reported 3 or 4 times over the last few months.

The point is not about the two posts, there have been many more ignored reports that already fell of my report list. The point is - remove the useless "Report to moderator" link in the WO thread because it's misleading and a waste of time.

Edit: confusing wording.
1092  Other / Meta / Remove "Report to moderator" from Wall Observer on: May 26, 2022, 12:29:15 PM
Since no one seems to handling reports there anyway, even plagiarists are still happily plagiarising.

And yes, I do realize that removing the link might be too much of a hassle for the extremely busy staff, so maybe just put a piece of tape over it or something.

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1093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 26, 2022, 04:32:31 AM
Offer Taiwan to join NATO, or start sending weapons to them (you know for defense of course), sit back and watch the fireworks, make sure to prepare "but China invaded Taiwan, Taiwan didn't invade China" statements. Start a war and get the freedom spreader support, two birds with one stone!

Edit: Mind you i'm not a fan of repressive China by any stretch of imagination, but at what point people will start seeing that such approaches should in no way be supported (even if they're sold to the public as being done for all of the right reasons)!

I can tell how much you're concerned about Taiwan by all the threads you've started on the topic, and even that is not enough since you need to derail this one.

Meanwhile in the real world, Russian nazis have outdone themselves again. Well, they did it a month ago, I just came across it now:

The Russian Ministry of Defense has shared footage of recently killed Ukrainian troops.

The footage shows one body moved around and filmed from multiple angles in multiple positions, to inflate the perceived number of killed Ukrainian soldiers for propaganda purposes.
1094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 26, 2022, 03:34:19 AM
Or one can claim that there was no problem in Europe, and how France, Germany and all of EU were growing and all cool with Ukraine and Russia and the status quo before US decided to issue their freedom coup cookies in 2014. Then you yell but what about freedoms (of course exclusively for non US aligned governments), and we're back to the logic of how "freedom" can conveniently be used as justification for US to start any war it wishes. I mean US gets to undercut competition from EU, EU becomes fully reliant on US, Military-industrial complex is happy, with a possibility of collapsing Russia, it's a win/win/win/win. If that doesn't work or Russia just ends up winning too fast, rinse and repeat send freedom cookies (with weapons) to Moldova/Belarus/Kazakhstan/Georgia/Taiwan (you know cause Americans just care so much about spreading freedoms to those countries)

One can claim any stupid shit, but Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, Ukraine did not invade Russia. Same in 2022. No amount of strawmanning/whataboutism can justify feeding parts of sovereign countries to the fascist Moscow regime just because Putin is stuck in his imperial delusions.

You forgot to mention China's nuclear weapons in Mexico, you're slipping.
1095  Economy / Reputation / Re: For the reputation of this forum: you HAVE to rule on this flag! Share 10mBTC on: May 26, 2022, 03:21:43 AM
Am i the only one who has a problem with OP offering money (being that in the form of a giveaway) in exchange for participating in flag support/opposition? WTH, really?  Huh
As long as the payment isn't based on the outcome, and the reward is public, I think it's okay. It's different when people pay for for positive reviews or negative feedback (I've seen both cases).
It's certainly a first Cheesy

That's not what the trust system is for. At best this is low-effort spam, incentivizing which is against the rules when posting on the forum, and I can't think of any reason why such incentive could be good for the trust system either.
1096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 25, 2022, 09:05:47 PM
Interesting, Russia is sending T-62s.... this is a tank from 1961. It can only serve for the most basic occupation and civil containment tasks  (sending it to fight may also be possible if you want to keep killing your own soldiers). One would thing that "your brothers" are reluctant to be Putinified.

T62s don't have autoloaders, so this is going to be interesting indeed. The rate of killing their own soldiers may go up by 33% - crew of 4 instead of 3.

Also... T62s use 115mm rounds (as opposed to 125mm in T-64/72/etc), which are probably between non-existent and 20+ years old by now. So maybe they won't be firing at all, just used as "live recon" that Russians are famous for.
1097  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why not tag all bounty hunters? on: May 24, 2022, 05:37:00 PM
if the forum doesn't ban their low-quality posts

The forum should ban them (not just posts, ban the shitposters on sight) though, when they spill over to the rest of the forum. Ignoring sounds good in theory, but it requires compliance from everyone, otherwise it's pointless, and such compliance is never going to happen.

I was going through Bitcoin Discussion and other shitboards a few times and reporting all the shitposts (you know, the one-two paragraph garbage about nothing) and problem is not just shitposters themselves but also presumably smart and rational users - some of them with e.g. ChipMixer signatures if that means anything - responding to those shitposts. This perpetuates and legitimizes all the mundane and dumb shit posted by 0-merit copy-pasta Google Translate drones. Can everyone stop doing that? I don't think so.

I don't particularly care about someone who never leaves the Bounties board, they can all rot there.
1098  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 24, 2022, 01:32:31 AM
Meanwhile in the real world:

A veteran Russian diplomat to the United Nations office in Geneva has handed in his resignation and sent a statement to foreign colleagues criticising the “aggressive war unleashed” by Russian President Vladimir Putin in Ukraine.

Boris Bondarev, who worked as a counsellor at Russia’s permanent mission to the UN in Geneva, told the Reuters news agency: “I went to the mission like any other Monday morning and I forwarded my resignation letter and I walked out.”

[...]

“For twenty years of my diplomatic career I have seen different turns of our foreign policy, but never have I been so ashamed of my country as on February 24 of this year,” Bondarev said in the statement first published by UN Watch, an advocacy group.

Now he's gonna have to hire a food taster.
1099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 24, 2022, 01:25:21 AM
I'm not saying he has scammed someones money.
Yes, he has supported Ripple, who are scamming people's money.

This doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this thread, stop spamming.
1100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 23, 2022, 10:15:59 PM
If he is guilty, he should be punished, better in Ukraine. There are hundreds of reports on the network about the atrocities of Russian soldiers. How many criminal cases have been opened and criminals named so far? None of the normal person will protect them. Ukrainian law enforcement agencies are required to publish complete information so that the thieves and rapists become known in Russia.
And they do that. But Russia isn't doing shit about it, and most likely Ukrainian law enforcement is not going to be able to arrest them. So what exactly is your problem here?
If measures are limited only to this, then this is clearly not enough.

Your original claim was that the accusations of rape were "nonsense" because there were no criminal cases. I proved you wrong. You continue to shift the goal posts.

Russian military rapes and kills civilian Ukrainian population, and commits other war crimes. That is a fact.

I try to add warnings if I post e.g. rumors from telegram, otherwise if it's a reputable source then it's up to the reader to decide what to make of it. Again, I don't understand what your problem is here. If Russian military isn't looking its best in these news reports, it's most likely because it's a looting gang of criminals and not because the reports are wrong.
There is a problem, but it does not apply to me. You immediately accept as an indisputable truth if the American, British or Ukrainian press writes that Russian troops have committed a war crime.

False. See above.

But when there are reports of crimes committed by the Ukrainian side

I'm sure you will report them. Thank you for your service.

It would be quite absurd to use heavily-censored and mostly Kremlin-controlled media in Russia as sources for anything other than a laugh.
Do you think that there is no censorship in the Western and Ukrainian press?

Nice straw man. I'm sure if I say "yes", you'll dig up something somewhere that was prohibited etc.

What matters here, is that outside of Russia there is media that freely reports on the war in Ukraine. Inside of Russia even the word "war" is prohibited.

Totally not a fascist regime at all.
How would you call the situation when in Ukraine

Again LOL

By the way, it looks like he blurted out too much and because of this, Zelensky’s lies were accidentally discovered.

You're still not getting it, are you?

Zelensky is a person. Ukraine, unlike Russia, does not have a totalitarian personality cult. Attacking Zelensky's person is a pointless waste of time. If he's killed, impeached, resigns, is not re-elected, etc, Ukraine will move on just fine.

Not that it's much of a surprise... I guess if you're enslaved by Putin's lies, you must also believe that all Ukrainians are enslaved by evil Zelensky.
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