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1481  Economy / Speculation / Re: ALL ABOARD on: February 06, 2018, 02:41:07 PM
This picture isnt accurate because all these shitcoins are going to rally even more than bitcoin.

Why do you think so?

because it is a fact. I am afraid that as long the shitcoins are around, bitcoin cannot go to new ath.

Shitcoins are the decoy nothing more.....
1482  Economy / Speculation / Re: Total Marketcap All Coins Logarithmic Regression on: February 06, 2018, 02:29:36 PM
Outlook here is quite bad, do you think we will have to wait till 2020 to recover? Or is this slump due to black swan events, simple FUD-ing on all channels

No
No
Yes
1483  Economy / Speculation / Re: ALL ABOARD on: February 06, 2018, 02:25:32 PM
Now a 5000% rise  Grin
1484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 06, 2018, 02:22:27 PM
Theres no such thing as a cost of production for bitcoin. The bitcoin difficult is adjusted every 10 minutes to account for network competition. Mining doesnt affect price - other way around.

That's like saying that there is no cost for mining gold or other valuables because the price is determined when you sell it.
Sounds a bit like Schrodingers Cat.

Current Bitcoin difficulty and available mining gear does represent the cost of a Bitcoin.

No the price of mining gold is pretty fixed. You have tractors and digging and labor etc. and it's always the same regardless of the price of gold. The cost of mining gold is not a variable in a computer. You absolutely need a certain amount of money to mine gold regardless of how many people are mining gold. With bitcoin, on the other hand, if all the other miners except you stopped mining, then the cost of mining bitcoins would be 0 for  you.

Cost of mining is, at a bare minimum, your electricity. So no, not 0.
Its essentially 0. If youre the only one mining then difficulty levels would approach 0 and no matter how much power you used every 10 minutes you would get 12.5 bitcoins. You could be using 1hz or your cpu on your ipad, and your cost of mining one bitcoin is 1 cent. I dont think you can describe any kind of similar situation with gold - its strictly a feature of the bitcoin protocol in which bitcoin will survive and work exactly the same way no matter how many miners there are. Oh and some places have free power, but thats beside the point.

Well if some geologist finds a gigantic gold-pocket of 1B tons on some mountain terrain .....
If alternative materials are developed that are non-corrosive and have good electrical properties ....

At some point in the past the value of pepper was sky-high .... now every person has it in their kitchen.

All prices adjust....

Your argument is invalid Smiley
1485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get out while i can on: February 06, 2018, 02:10:02 PM
thanks for input people , ill sell half then and see what happens

1486  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 06, 2018, 02:07:26 PM
Nice theory...  Here's mine.  We know that BTC has become a 'stone in the bankers' shoe', meaning it has become too disruptive, annoying and unpredictable.  We also know that they are the 'masters of the universe', meaning they have the political power, the money and everything else they need to take something down if they truly wanted it to happen.

And based on what you said about the costs of mining, what you see as strength, I see an attack vector.  What if all the world's bankers are starting to work together to crash BTC and keep the price down long enough to bankrupt the miners out of business and discourage anyone from mining it again?

I think this is where the CPU and GPU mined coins will find its strength.  *cough* Monero *cough*  Grin

Bitcoin is annoying and disruptive.... It's a disruptor, redefining economics making bankers scared since they cannot influence it.
If bankers are the master of the universe why is the Dow Jones down the rabbit hole at the moment?

Let's say they want to stop Bitcoin mining with all their political power they would need to
- Ban hardware (GPU/CPU/ASICs/Transistors)
- Ban internet

Further more they would need to do a global attack on Bitcoin, since any country banning Bitcoin would make citizens move elsewhere where they are welcomed.

I don't see all the worlds bankers working together .... hey a purple unicorn  Kiss


PS: I also have Monero ;-)
1487  Economy / Speculation / Re: ALL ABOARD on: February 06, 2018, 01:47:41 PM
This picture isnt accurate because all these shitcoins are going to rally even more than bitcoin.

At the end of the day they most are still shitcoins.
Only a select few have infrastructure built like ATMs, trading platforms, payment systems, etc.
1488  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 06, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Theres no such thing as a cost of production for bitcoin. The bitcoin difficult is adjusted every 10 minutes to account for network competition. Mining doesnt affect price - other way around.

That's like saying that there is no cost for mining gold or other valuables because the price is determined when you sell it.
Sounds a bit like Schrodingers Cat.

Current Bitcoin difficulty and available mining gear does represent the cost of a Bitcoin.
1489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 12:45:17 PM
was the bottom in or not? I bought back, then sold again, now buying back... or.. not?!

Buy it and don't look back.

- You will never get the best price.
- Short term losses are always likely.
- Long term profits are almost certain.

In other words HODL!
1490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hey guys do you think that Bitcoin price will continue decreasing ? on: February 06, 2018, 12:44:03 PM
NOPE Smiley
1491  Economy / Speculation / Re: The rally will eventually end with a dip to at least $5.5K //3K on: February 06, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
I'm so sorry for this horrible thread.

It was pretty much spot on Smiley
1492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 06, 2018, 12:24:26 PM
Oh i know, i know.

Because you can't get a negative value, thus it's value cannot fall below 0 in any reference currency or asset.

I guess we're all save now!

At least it's not built on debt like the $ or Euro Wink

And it's "safe" or "saved" .... not "save"
1493  Economy / Speculation / Re: It seems someone is setting up their positions around current level 6K on: February 06, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
Trend seems to be getting more positive.
I see recovery in the near future ...
1494  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is Bitcoin? Nothing! on: February 06, 2018, 12:16:38 PM
Why bother to register on Bitcointalk and tell us it's a crap investment ?

Ahhh butthurt and jealous Tongue
1495  Economy / Speculation / Re: ALL ABOARD on: February 06, 2018, 11:36:23 AM
TA:
We seem to be starting a positive channel. Whales stepping in again.
Some good volume going on.
Bad news is fading out. Bans aren't real (as we already knew).
Killer drop got rid of the weak hands.
1496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the Bitcoin price is not going to fall below a certain price point on: February 06, 2018, 11:33:51 AM
Cost of mining a bitcoin is way higher than $60 so stop the FUD please Smiley
1497  Economy / Speculation / ALL ABOARD on: February 06, 2018, 11:31:15 AM
Ladies and gentlemen please stow your tray-table and get into your long position  Cool

Bitcoin will take-off shortly. Don't get left behind .... Smiley


1498  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep a Cool Head. Play Your Cards Right and Wait. on: February 06, 2018, 11:26:58 AM
OP is wrong....

Green - HODL
Red - HODL
None of the above - HODL

Multi-millionaire - SODL (but HODL 1)
1499  Economy / Speculation / Re: Official Bear Camp Thread (late-2017 edition) on: February 06, 2018, 11:23:46 AM
1500  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6200 I'm buying on: February 06, 2018, 10:37:32 AM
We seem to be in a positive channel.
It will go down to $6400 and up to $7200
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